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FoShizzle
12-14-2004, 04:41 PM
Just picked up my new (2003) Element from the shop.

What is the recommended air pressure for the Fox Float shock? Is the algorithm = body weight as psi like so many other bikes?

Cheers

eric
12-15-2004, 07:29 AM
I'm 155 lbs. tops, and used to run 115-120 psi when I used a Fox damper. In my DT SSD I run 125 psi. I do place quite a lot of weight on the front end, though, so that may compensate for the silly low pressures.

macming
12-15-2004, 01:52 PM
190, running 160psi.

It is really a personal preference and trade off between super hard shock that is efficient, or a super plush ride and inefficient pedalling.

FoShizzle
12-15-2004, 02:08 PM
Just picked up my new (2003) Element from the shop.

What is the recommended air pressure for the Fox Float shock? Is the algorithm = body weight as psi like so many other bikes?

Cheers

Well, I guess I will start at some % under my body weight for this one and play with it. I guess I was just being lazy as usual :)

Stoked on the bike though.....just picked it up after buying parts for it over the last 11 months!

Cheers

macming
12-15-2004, 02:53 PM
Well, I guess I will start at some % under my body weight for this one and play with it. I guess I was just being lazy as usual :)

Stoked on the bike though.....just picked it up after buying parts for it over the last 11 months!

Cheers

Nice! Parts listing and I need PICTURES!!!!! :D

FoShizzle
12-15-2004, 04:24 PM
Nice! Parts listing and I need PICTURES!!!!! :D

pictures coming probably tomorrow but her are parts as you requested:

frame = (19") Rocky Mountain Element Sc

cranks = Race Face Deus (silver)

fork = 2005 Marzocchi Marathon Race

wheelset = Chris King ISO hubs (red) / DT Swiss XR4.1d rims / Supercomp spokes / alloy nipples (red of course :) )

brakes = Magura Marta SLs

shifters = SRAM X.0

fr der = XTR

rear der = SRAM X.0

cassette = XT

chain = PC-99 Hollow pin

pedals = Shimano 959

seat = Rocket V Stealth

seatpost = Yeti Arc Aluminum

stem = Syntace F99 (120mm)

bars = Answer ProTaper Carbon

grips = ODI Rogue Lock-on

headset = Chris King (red)

tires = Kenda Karma DTC

seatpost clamp = Hope (red)

skewers = Hope (red)

macming
12-15-2004, 05:59 PM
Wow..that's one amazing build!! Tell me how you like the fork because that's one of the options I'm considering when my SID goes on my Instinct.

I still need to see some PICTURES :D

FoShizzle
12-15-2004, 10:48 PM
Wow..that's one amazing build!! Tell me how you like the fork because that's one of the options I'm considering when my SID goes on my Instinct.

I still need to see some PICTURES :D
will do....Friday morning before work will be my first ride.

I am a little overwhelmed with all the adjustments to be honest (ie, positive air in both legs, negative air in one leg, PAR air in one leg) but that does not mean it is bad, just that I am not used to having to think too much with my forks.

I just put the Marz All Mountain 1 fork on my trailbike and love it!! best fork out there for trailbikes in my opinion. I actually returned the Fox F80RLT I had purchased for the Marz because I loved the All Mountain so much and this fork (Marz Marathon Race) also has the TST which is bladder technology as used in motocross as I understand it....plus, it is compression damping changed on the fly that is pretty sweet....have loved it so far on my trailbike.

I will update you and by Friday I should have my pictures.

Cheers

macming
12-16-2004, 07:48 AM
will do....Friday morning before work will be my first ride.

I am a little overwhelmed with all the adjustments to be honest (ie, positive air in both legs, negative air in one leg, PAR air in one leg) but that does not mean it is bad, just that I am not used to having to think too much with my forks.


Fox forks are dead simple to adjust, but doesn't give you too much adjustability. I spent about a week adjusting my SID to get it working right. I would take your time, adjust each pressure in small increments at a short section of a trail you know very well, and you'll most likely find the correct pressure pretty quickly.

FoShizzle
12-16-2004, 08:55 AM
Fox forks are dead simple to adjust, but doesn't give you too much adjustability. I spent about a week adjusting my SID to get it working right. I would take your time, adjust each pressure in small increments at a short section of a trail you know very well, and you'll most likely find the correct pressure pretty quickly.
good advice...thanks.

jmtbkr
12-16-2004, 09:38 AM
I agree with Macming. It is a matter of preference as to how you want the bike to ride. Pump it up for super effecient, yet hard tail type ride or let the pressure out and have it super plush with lots o' bob.
I am 210 lbs and ride my Y2K SC with about 180lbs of air. I started using about 150lbs when I first got it, it was real plush, but bounced all over the place. I didn't really understand suspension then. Upped it to about 190 and was real happy. After 4 years of abuse, the shock wore out and I had it PUSHED this summer. I now run anout 170 lbs with almost no bob at all. Guess the Push really works.

It all comes down to how YOU like the feel.
jeff

macming
12-16-2004, 09:51 AM
I agree with Macming. It is a matter of preference as to how you want the bike to ride. Pump it up for super effecient, yet hard tail type ride or let the pressure out and have it super plush with lots o' bob.
I am 210 lbs and ride my Y2K SC with about 180lbs of air. I started using about 150lbs when I first got it, it was real plush, but bounced all over the place. I didn't really understand suspension then. Upped it to about 190 and was real happy. After 4 years of abuse, the shock wore out and I had it PUSHED this summer. I now run anout 170 lbs with almost no bob at all. Guess the Push really works.

It all comes down to how YOU like the feel.
jeff

Yeah, the 3D link setup is a really efficient/plush design. Even though I'm running the pressure at 165-170psi in my shock and I weigh 190, sometimes 200 with all my gear on my back. My Instinct still soaks up small bumps very well, climbs like a hardtail, takes all the major hits, and never really bottoms out. Keep in mind I ride mostly XC, and my wheels dont really leave the ground.

I'm really happy with my purchase with the Instinct compared to a Giant NRS1. THe NRS1s are ultra efficient, but less plush than the Rocky Mountain design. I happened to luck out and picked the better of the two :)

Ming