Roll Call - show us your Ellsworth [Archive]

AndyH

12-23-2003, 02:39 PM

So you'll just have to stare at these two pics instead ;)

My 1998 Truth (traded the frame in for my 2001):
http://hometown.aol.com/ajhedin/MTB/Ellsworth_09.jpg

My 2001 Truth. Since this pic was taken last year, I've upgraded from the Shimano XT disc brakes to Magura Martas, and changed the rear shock from a Cane Creek AD-10 to a Manitou Swinger 3-Way:
http://hometown.aol.com/ajhedin/MTB/Truth_640.jpg

Trevor!

12-23-2003, 11:14 PM

This bike has been nothing but fun.....

http://www.neptunetrawls.com.au/The%20Truth.jpg

DirtDad

12-24-2003, 10:40 AM

I can built up my Id as a 25lb xc racer or for a day on the chair lifts. In full XC mode I see it as a long travel Truth. The Id is not a true huckster/freeride bike, but I like it that way. For shuttle/chairlift days, I can make these changes (some different from the picture):

DT Swiss Rear Shock -> Romic
Frog Ti Pedals -> Platform spds (shoe change, too)
6" front rotor -> 8" front rotor + caliper adapter
WTB Mutanoraptor 2.4 race front tire -> 2.5 WTB Weirwolf Race or Schwalbe King Jim
Kenda Karma DTC 2.0 Rear tire -> IRC Kujo 2.35 or Schwalbe Big Jim
Mavic X317/American Classic (WTB Laser Lite)/revo front champion rear -> Mavic F519/Hayes Superlite/Champion F&R

Lower the saddle and go!

I love the Id. It has real XC geometry, descends like a couch and climbs better than most XC duallies. With an adjustable fork, the front can be steepened to handle tight stuff. The bike gives great confidence to ride near its limits - when you break loose it is easily reeled back in.

I also like the high bottom bracket feel - it makes you feel like you are riding the equivalent of a monster truck like you are a long way from technical obstacles.

wilsonblur

12-25-2003, 08:02 PM

I really enjoyed riding my truth but it was a piece. I rode it all over germany, scottland, england, france, switzerland when I lived @ Ramstein AFB Germany. The bushings were nothing but trouble in the wet rainy German weather. The chain stay cracked all the way through the yoke and the head tube cracked two weeks after I got a used chain stay from Ellsworth. It was the best pedaling suspension bike I had ever ridden and it was really stable in the front end. Durability is another issue that is supposed to be resolved in the new design. I didn't realize but I had been riding it for months with a hairline crack at the headtube. It had this creak for ever that I couldn't find until I used a magnifying glass to find it. The LBS confirmed my fear.

http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74 (http://forums.mtbr.com/index.php)
http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75 (http://forums.mtbr.com/index.php)

ThoughtfulPirate

12-26-2003, 08:15 AM

I dont own an ellsworth, but if anyone wants to buy me an id or a joker, I'd be happy to ride it.

rroeder

12-28-2003, 12:08 PM

Trevor!

12-28-2003, 01:31 PM

Standard shot-sorry no action shots

Best riding FS rig I've thrown a leg over and climbs technical terrain better than a hardtail.

Things I would change:
1. Put a real headtube badge on all frames, not a sticker and then charge $10 for one on your website.
2. Brake line guides-a must!
3. Get rid of the internal cable routing on the rear-end, its a hassle getting the cable thru the hole and you can't remove the housing from the stops to clean the cable.

I love riding this bike, so much so that I had a hard time riding my road bike last summer because the rigid rear end felt primitive compared to the high tech suspension on the Truth.

Hey, you have a great looking bike there.
I totally agree, Its the sweetest FS frame I have ever ridden - So smooth and plush and totally stable feeling.

I agree with the brake line guides, it just seems lazy that Ellsworth haven't added a really simple feature. I do however feel very happy about the head-tube badge being just an easy item to replace as just the other day I scratched mine :(

Trevor!

wilsonblur

12-28-2003, 02:53 PM

You know they don't add a real head badge and cable guides because it adds like 7 grams of weight or something. It might keep them from the lightest full suspension production frame. Kidding aside they should add these things. My new Blur which weighs .3's of a pound more than my truth has a disc hose guide on the tope tube and one the seat stay all for $600 less. You know that's where all the extra weight is coming from those heavy cable guides.

Trevor!

12-28-2003, 03:01 PM

No I don't think its got anything to do with weight savings LOL! I actually really like the headbadge though - It looks totally cool and if you scratch it like I already have then you can replace it! Not that aesthetics are that important........

The blur is a sweet bike for sure, but the finish of the Ellsworth is probably what adds to the price, that is, the Shot peened finish and the annondizing and the laser etched graphics - no paint or decals or anything.

wilsonblur

12-28-2003, 04:00 PM

If I'm not mistaken my Blur also has and anodized shot peened finish and SC was using Laser etching while Ells was still using those lousy decals on the 94-00 models. It's like any thing else in the world it's expensive to engineer a frame that will last that cuts .3-.5 of pound off of it's competitors. The truth is a great bike. I loved mine before it broke. The Blur is is also great but is very different in terms of ride. What really made the difference for me was the customer service at SC and sizing. I had an offer of a $1400 crash replacement from Ells for a 2004 or I could buy a 2004 Blur for the same price. The truth tt was about 22.5 and the blur 21.6. I tried shorter stems and moving my seat all the way forward but the small truth was just too big. After getting used to the Blur's set up and having a bike that fits I don't miss back and wrist pain. So far I am not regretting changing manufacturers. The only bummer is there are so many people riding blur's, the truth was a bit more distinctive. Enjoy yours!

rroeder

12-29-2003, 09:30 AM

rroeder

12-29-2003, 10:31 AM

Thanks Trevor, yours is looking sweet also! BTW, I was able to drill out the cable stops and run the brake line thru them. It works well and looks clean.

Tam

12-29-2003, 01:11 PM

This is the seventh mountain bike that I have own and by far is the best hardcore trail bike that I've ridden. It weights from 32 to 36 pounds depending on the wheel and tire selection. The onepointfive is great but not enough manufacturers make 1.5 stems and limiting options.

Trevor!

12-29-2003, 07:13 PM

Thanks Trevor, yours is looking sweet also! BTW, I was able to drill out the cable stops and run the brake line thru them. It works well and looks clean.

Thats very clean looking. I remember you posting that a while ago and was impressed but couldn't bring myself to drilling out the stops for fear of buggering it up - which there is probably a 99.9% chance of me doing :p

Hollis

01-02-2004, 10:18 AM

My '99 Isis SL :D
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<img src="http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/IsisSL.jpg">

SlowSSer

01-05-2004, 12:11 PM

well, its not mine- this is my dad's Id. he absolutely loves it. Im afraid to ride it for fear of wanting something other than all of my hardtails.

SSINGA

01-05-2004, 12:43 PM

IMO...the Red Ano is one of the best colors!

You're right, don't get on it.

DiRt DeViL

01-05-2004, 02:16 PM

Stay away from Dad's bike.

SlowSSer

01-05-2004, 03:36 PM

IMO...the Red Ano is one of the best colors!

You're right, don't get on it.

the red is definitely one of the best choices. I'd have to get out of my grey stage- 3 of the 4 bikes are ti grey. oh well.

Stay away from Dad's bike.

its a good thing that I dont live there- or else I'd see it every day and be rather tempted.

here's the cool part- that whole bike is a hair under 29 lbs. it weighs less than my sofa king hardtail gearie. ouch.

pixelninja

01-07-2004, 08:57 AM

Here's my 03 Isis

cbcbcbcb

01-09-2004, 08:06 PM

Love it!

I did have a cracked seatstay at the disc brake mount. Ellsworth turned around the replacement part within a couple of days.

mtblife

01-09-2004, 10:54 PM

My girlfriend is jealous of my bike. I spend more time with it than her, sorry honey.

Trevor!

01-10-2004, 05:07 AM

My girlfriend is jealous of my bike. I spend more time with it than her, sorry honey.

I really like the look of your build and I like the frame colour.

Two question - On your chainstay is that a road tube or something raped around it, or something else. It looks very neat and tidy, wouldn't mind adding that to my Truth. Second question - Is your seatpost a 350mm or longer EC70. I have the 350mm and it continually slips and I have done some damage to the post so was thinking of getting the longer one... Curious to know if you know the weight of the post?

Sweet bike - Your girlfriend would probably spend more time on a Truth if she new how it rode!!!

Ciao
Trevor!

mtblife

01-10-2004, 03:33 PM

On my chainstay, I have a regular 26X1.95-2.1 MTB inner tube. Just simply cut the desired length and you've got the cheapest yet functional chainstay guard. To put it on, just simply unscrew the chainstay bolt, slip on the tube and voila, you've done it!
As for my seatpost length, it's a 350mm EC70. The weight is about 200g, according to Easton. Many people have the similar complaint you have about the seatpost slipping down. I fortunately have not. In fact, when I ride XC, I have the seatpost set to #3 and never experience slippage. Hopefully you didn't lube your seatpost, because it is entriely NOT needed. If your looking for this same seatpost but in a longer length, that is 400mm, I spoke to a rep from Easton and they said they're working on it. It should be available some time in July this year. Hey by the way thanks for your feedback on the "Why bike to buy forum," regarding "What size truth do you ride." Remember? It was posted by the name "Saddle Sore." Keep on ridin!!!!
I really like the look of your build and I like the frame colour.

Two question - On your chainstay is that a road tube or something raped around it, or something else. It looks very neat and tidy, wouldn't mind adding that to my Truth. Second question - Is your seatpost a 350mm or longer EC70. I have the 350mm and it continually slips and I have done some damage to the post so was thinking of getting the longer one... Curious to know if you know the weight of the post?

Sweet bike - Your girlfriend would probably spend more time on a Truth if she new how it rode!!!

Ciao
Trevor!

Trevor!

01-10-2004, 06:39 PM

On my chainstay, I have a regular 26X1.95-2.1 MTB inner tube. Just simply cut the desired length and you've got the cheapest yet functional chainstay guard. To put it on, just simply unscrew the chainstay bolt, slip on the tube and voila, you've done it!
As for my seatpost length, it's a 350mm EC70. The weight is about 200g, according to Easton. Many people have the similar complaint you have about the seatpost slipping down. I fortunately have not. In fact, when I ride XC, I have the seatpost set to #3 and never experience slippage. Hopefully you didn't lube your seatpost, because it is entriely NOT needed. If your looking for this same seatpost but in a longer length, that is 400mm, I spoke to a rep from Easton and they said they're working on it. It should be available some time in July this year. Hey by the way thanks for your feedback on the "Why bike to buy forum," regarding "What size truth do you ride." Remember? It was posted by the name "Saddle Sore." Keep on ridin!!!!

I am happy to see you picked up the Ellsworth and no doubt you are loving the bike.I cant seem to ride mine enough and I am getting on the trails 7 days a week! I have my seatpost set on 6 so would like a slightly longer seatpost for when I grow and also to provide me some assurance from my current deeply scratch EC70 :eek: ....

I'll have to use an old tube on the chainstay as it looks much nicer then my current Lizard Skin..

Great to see you picked up Truth.
Trevor!

Super Q

01-13-2004, 10:22 AM

I bought this 03 Ellsworth Joker here on MTBReview back in July. It came with the following parts: fork: 2002 Fox Vanilla R
headset: Chris King
hubs: Chris King ISO
rims: Mavic D321 laced with DT DB spokes
brakes: 2002 Avid disk with Avid levers
cranks: 2003 XT with '03 XT BB
tires: Nokian Gazza Jr., Nokian Gazza Dual
stem/bars: Easton EA50
shifters: 2002 XT

This was my first mountainbike, I call it phase one

Super Q

01-13-2004, 10:31 AM

SSINGA

01-13-2004, 10:41 AM

This was the same 03 frame, but as you can see, i upgraded to a romic shock in the rear, hope m4's 185mm, thompson seatpost, raceface stem, truvative crankset, new seat, and that's about it. This was like phase 4.5

Nice looking bike Super Q!! Is that a 7" rear travel frame. I noticed in the 1st pic it had a shock mount adaptor bracket for the Fox. Those are some BLUE tires!!!!!

Super Q

01-13-2004, 10:55 AM

This is my latest Ellsworth Joker. I wanted the 04 joker with a 1.5 headtube, but since I already had an 03, I wasn't about to buy a new 04. Then one day I was in my LBS, and the owner told me he could make me a great deal on an 04 1.5 with a build kit. I had been planning on upgrading my old 03 joker front fork to a sherman breakout ($500.00), and he said that he would make me a deal on the build kit. So I put my old frame, fork, stem, and bars up for sale, and I ended up getting the new 04 joker and only had to pay about $250.00 difference. I loved the 03, but I love my 04 more. It's a little heavy at 39lbs, but i think alot of that is in the heavy downhill tubes I am running. I have only ridden the bike once since I got it, so it's still nice and shiny clean :)

Super Q

01-13-2004, 11:03 AM

yup that's right, at first the 03 had a shock mount adaptor bracket for the fox rear shock. It was the 7" travel version, but with the adaptor, it was only getting 5.5 in the rear, so I upgraded to a romic, and you know it climbed better and bobed less with the 7" romic than with the 5.5 fox!

ricochet

01-13-2004, 12:41 PM

This is my 02, before the accident I have since upgraded to a black 03

lidarman

01-13-2004, 01:27 PM

Truth (RIP) P=pieces

<img border="2" src=http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/ldronew(1).jpg>

(Thanks Kristian for the pic)

and it's replacement,

<img border="2" src=http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/IMG_6869~1(1).jpg>

Spookykinkajou

01-16-2004, 10:28 AM

SSINGA

01-16-2004, 10:48 AM

I've been bored at work browsing the pictures of everyones bikes and have noticed a common trend in the ellsworth section that surprised me. ALOT of people mention cracking this, replacing that, breaking this...what's up with ellsworth? they cost a fortune yet still break?? i've wanted to get an ID or truth for awhile now but may be looking elsewhere!
Any frame can and will break especially it it is used outside it's "intended purpose". I've been present when or personally broken many different brands. Personally, I've broken an Ellsworth, Azonic and a few Giants. I've seen Yeti, Specialized, Fisher, Trek, Turner and Santa Cruz frames break. Some were true JRA's and others were asking for the break. It is true though that alot of the early Ellsworths had some design flaws and were prone to break. I was treated very well when I called to warranty the part and had a completely redesigned swingarm in 4 days, no questions asked. I wouldn't be worried about if you are purchasing it new and as a matter of fact my next bike will be an Ellsworth.

TruckeeLocal

01-16-2004, 02:59 PM

Here's my Id. Unusual stuff are the saddle (Brooks), normal stuff are XT, Crossmax XLs, Shimano 646 pedals, Thompson stem and seat post. Dirt is Sierra moon dust that should get through the Fox Vanilla seals sometime - that's what quite a few folks have found anyway.

notMurray

01-18-2004, 10:52 AM

Note the down-tube guard. A little extra insurance against flying rocks. They're available at Go-Ride.com.

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/online0001.jpg

msylvan

01-22-2004, 03:57 PM

Here's my O3' ID, Romic in back, Sherman SPV in front. I may have posted the pictures wrong. Here goes...

bike26

01-22-2004, 04:06 PM

i wish i had the cash to buy one

wjc1

01-24-2004, 01:57 PM

My TRUTH no longer has the fender or the cheezy XTR sticker on the wheels and the tires are now WTB Weirwolfs. -Bill

TruckeeLocal

01-24-2004, 03:08 PM

My TRUTH no longer has the fender or the cheezy XTR sticker on the wheels and the tires are now WTB Weirwolfs. -Bill

How did you go about getting the stickers off the wheel set ? I wouldn't mind 'upgrading' my wheels to something less garish (Mavic CrossMax XLs). That and it'll save 100 grams or something silly. Once that's done how about tackling the "Ellsworth" graphic ?

mtblife

01-24-2004, 05:41 PM

Hey Bill, nice Truth. Yeah, I switched my tires also, and to Weirwolf. There the best tires I've tried, and I've tried many. I just got these Pythons only for hard packed terrain, and only for this kind of terrain. Using them on any other is futile. By the way, what size Truth are you ridin?

~Mike

Free-Nando

01-25-2004, 08:39 AM

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/EllsworthId(1).jpg

Happy in general but I would like to have a lower b/bracket and slacker head angle. I´m running the bike with a Romic on it.
I had to use the warranty due to a cracked weld on the front triangle, the customer service was VERY GOOD, I had a new frame back in ten days.

thegood

01-26-2004, 02:50 PM

Sittin home bored outta my mind cuz of the lousy winter weather in DC...so I snapped some pics...my Truth and my wife's Sub-22.

lidarman

01-26-2004, 02:52 PM

Happy in general but I would like to have a lower b/bracket and slacker head angle. I´m running the bike with a Romic on it.
I had to use the warranty due to a cracked weld on the front triangle, the customer service was VERY GOOD, I had a new frame back in ten days.
Solution: Run more sag in the rear and crank up the compression damping a couple clicks--> lower bottom bracket, slacker head angle (sorry a little less travel in the rear however)

V-Dub

01-27-2004, 01:04 PM

Here you go... Joker, Dare, Specialist. Should have my 04' Dare in about a week. Super excited to build it up...

merlin

01-27-2004, 01:38 PM

This baby was built for racing:
FSA Carbon Cranks
FSA TI BB
Sram shifters and rear derailer
Avid Single Digit TI & V Brakes
Fox Float 100

Trevor!

01-27-2004, 10:26 PM

This baby was built for racing:
FSA Carbon Cranks
FSA TI BB
Sram shifters and rear derailer
Avid Single Digit TI & V Brakes
Fox Float 100

Sweet build indeed. Sorta kind reminds me of mine...

Trevor!

GspotRider

01-28-2004, 12:14 AM

Here you go... Joker, Dare, Specialist. Should have my 04' Dare in about a week. Super excited to build it up...

V-Dub, I look forward to hearing about the new 04 Dare.

Mine is an oldy but a goodie.

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/127-2796_IMG(1).jpg

AndyH

01-28-2004, 07:52 AM

How did you go about getting the stickers off the wheel set ? I wouldn't mind 'upgrading' my wheels to something less garish (Mavic CrossMax XLs). That and it'll save 100 grams or something silly. Once that's done how about tackling the "Ellsworth" graphic ?[/QUOTE]
Someone posted pics recently of a set of new CrossMax's with the stickers removed...looked pretty stealth! I believe he was a Turner rider, the pic was posted either over on the What Bike to Buy forum, or the Turner forum.

Once that's done how about tackling the "Ellsworth" graphic ?
No can do on the annodized Ellsworth's as the graphics are laser-etched into the frame. Much more durable compared to the old stickers that tended to peal off easily.

bock

01-28-2004, 10:55 AM

This was the same 03 frame, but as you can see, i upgraded to a romic shock in the rear, hope m4's 185mm, thompson seatpost, raceface stem, truvative crankset, new seat, and that's about it. This was like phase 4.5

Man, that is a SWEET looking bike! Did I understand you correctly that that's your first mountain bike ever? Not a bad choice.

mtblife

01-29-2004, 09:37 PM

Hi msylvan, just wondering, is your stem at a 15 degree angle? If so, do you like the angle?
Here's my O3' ID, Romic in back, Sherman SPV in front. I may have posted the pictures wrong. Here goes...

mtblife

01-29-2004, 10:01 PM

Hi Merlin,
I've gotta size small 04 Truth, but I'm having a bit of a problem with the top tube length and need to make the adjustments required to have a top-tube length similar to that of the medium. Now your probably asking why I didn't just get the medium frame to begin with. The answer is that I would've got the medium frame which has a top tube length of 23.5" but because the stand-over height was too much, I resorted to the small, thinking I can make adjustments with some components. Anyways, this is why I have the small, and it's top-tube length is 22.25". If you do the math, this is a 1.25 inch difference in length. To compensate for this, I decided to put in an EC70 seatpost that has 3/4"off-set. Currently, I have a 110mm/10 degree stem. Unfortunately, this stem is too short, and entirely noticable, since I feel scrunched up in the saddle. I'm considering getting a longer stem to compensate for the 1.25" that I don't have, but am afraid of losing steer performance. Do you have a longer stem on your truth, and if so, how do you like it? I wanna set it up my Truth for XC racing like you because I'm entering a race this Spring. Can you help a fellow racer figure out what to do about my stem? Thanks.
~Mike
This baby was built for racing:
FSA Carbon Cranks
FSA TI BB
Sram shifters and rear derailer
Avid Single Digit TI & V Brakes
Fox Float 100

tomcat

01-29-2004, 10:16 PM

[b]check This Ellsworth

mtblife

01-29-2004, 10:19 PM

Hi Merlin,
I have a 2004 Truth in a small, but I'm having a bit of a problem with the top-tube length (22.25"). It's too short and I need a few more inches (let's not get nasty hear now). Anyways, I did try the medium and it's top-tube length is what I'm looking for (23.5). Your probably asking yourself, "Why didn't you just get it then." The answer is simple, the stand-over height was too much, so a resorted with the small assuming that I could remedy the problem with some components. If you do the math, the difference in top-tube lengths between the two sizes is 1.25". To compensate for this, I installed an EC70 seat-post that has a 3/4" set-back. Well, I still have about .5" more to inches to reach the desired cockpit room I'm looking for. Obviously, this is where we consider what stem should be used. What stem length and degree rise do you think I should get, and what impact will this have on steer performance. I'm entering a race this Spring, and so I wanna set-up my bike for XC racing. Hope you can help a fellow rider out. Thanks.

Sincerely,
Mike
This baby was built for racing:
FSA Carbon Cranks
FSA TI BB
Sram shifters and rear derailer
Avid Single Digit TI & V Brakes
Fox Float 100

tomcat

01-29-2004, 10:24 PM

This Is One Sweet Id Xtr All The Way Around With All The Right Stuff!!!!

wjc1

01-30-2004, 04:13 PM

They were not on that greatto begin with. THere were a couple of bubbles which si what brought my attention to them. They peel off pretty easy. Just need a good thumb nail to get them going. Looks much cleaner without them.

wjc1

01-30-2004, 04:19 PM

Thanks, I went with a (16"?) small vs. medium mostly to have a little faster handling.
I used the Weirwolf in the snow last weekend and I was impressed at how well they handle. I think the angular treads help. I have my front set up opposite to the rear.
I had Mosquito's on before these and they were terrible in any moisture at all. -Bill

Hey Bill, nice Truth. Yeah, I switched my tires also, and to Weirwolf. There the best tires I've tried, and I've tried many. I just got these Pythons only for hard packed terrain, and only for this kind of terrain. Using them on any other is futile. By the way, what size Truth are you ridin?

~Mike

jdcamb

02-03-2004, 09:07 AM

2002 medium Truth. Serves me very well. I like it.....jdcamb

SSINGA

02-03-2004, 10:31 AM

2002 medium Truth. Serves me very well. I like it.....jdcamb

Is that a Ti spring on your shock?

jdcamb

02-03-2004, 12:51 PM

Is that a Ti spring on your shock?

Yes.....jdcamb

TT.

02-03-2004, 08:21 PM

pic is kida' gay, but I swear it's an Ells. :D :D

magpie

02-08-2004, 12:52 PM

I just finished building this although I still need a front derailler and the thompson stem I'm waiting for.

Trevor!

02-08-2004, 02:01 PM

I just finished building this although I still need a front derailler and the thompson stem I'm waiting for.

Nice build Magpie - Blue is a really great colour... I almost wish I choose blue.

Trevor!

Timmy S

02-08-2004, 06:36 PM

Disc brakes and rim/hubs to come when the budget allows...

Evil Con-fecal

02-09-2004, 10:17 AM

The Joker
2002 w/ Fox
New rear triangle
New 04 Super T
Avid levers and brakes 200mm up front 160mm in back
XT components
Holzfeller fatty bar with lock on grips
Azonic flats
Berzerker saddle
Thomson post
Rhinolite XLs
2.5 Weirwolf rear(soon to be highroller)
2.7 Maxxis minion front
Sweet ride for sweet posing.

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/joker2(3).jpg

Ride4Fun

02-09-2004, 11:43 AM

My ride
http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/DSCN1977.jpg

HTail

02-09-2004, 10:00 PM

This bike has been da bomb! Great for tough climbs, floats over rocks and roots, and flies down hill. It's actually a 2001 frame updated with a 2002 rear end.

Romic
Fox F100X
XTR
Easton bar/post
Odi Rogue lockon grips
WTB Rocket Laser Seat
Ritchey WCS stem
CrossMaxSL
Conti Vert Pros

Here's a picture just after if was born, still clean!

HTail

02-09-2004, 10:05 PM

Ok, let's try to get that picture uploaded...

notMurray

02-11-2004, 08:00 PM

I'll try this again since I screwed up the pic last time. Again, the Down-tube Guard is great for these things considering the thickness of the tubes and the kind of riding I do.

TeamTwentyFour

02-13-2004, 06:23 PM

Could this be quite possibly the world's most famous Ellsworth?
<img src="http://www.teamtwentyfour.com/!html_email/DCP_0002.JPG">
 It's located in here.....
<img src="http://www.teamtwentyfour.com/!html_email/DCP_0006.JPG">

TeamTwentyFour

02-13-2004, 06:25 PM

mtblife

02-13-2004, 07:50 PM

Hi, what kinda saddle do you sit on? Also, where'd you get that rig holding your battery on the seat post. It's pretty neat. Keep on ridin!

TeamTwentyFour

02-13-2004, 08:12 PM

Hi, what kinda saddle do you sit on? Also, where'd you get that rig holding your battery on the seat post. It's pretty neat. Keep on ridin!

The saddle is a Flite SLR. Light & minimalist, but comfortable. It's more popular with the roadies than it is with mountain bikers.

The battery holder is simply 2 machined aluminium clamps (these are available at most bike shops.....a lot of Trek bikes like the Y-Foil used to come with them). They allow you to bolt up any standard water bottle cage on the seatpost. There is also an optional bracket that allows 2 cages to be installed at 45degree angles....sorta like the triathletes use behind their saddles.

singletrackmind

02-17-2004, 02:28 AM

2003 15" frame...

iattackthedarkness

02-17-2004, 11:11 AM

the wheels fell off of it again

TeamTwentyFour

02-18-2004, 11:57 AM

Pretty cool!

iattackthedarkness

02-18-2004, 03:05 PM

and to top it all off... tony won't warrenty it either! :eek:

GonzoKY

02-18-2004, 03:16 PM

:d :d :d :d :d :d

Maciejunio

03-08-2004, 06:57 PM

My new 03 Joker....

Palisworth

03-19-2004, 09:24 AM

Here is mine!
Great Frame, Great Fork!
Palisworth

fats

04-19-2004, 03:25 AM

I've looked thorugh this thread and i was upset to only see one specialist, although it is V-Dubs. Watching Third down on my computer right now loved the Back hop drop on the dare V-dub, very nice.

Anyway, i dont have a picture of my dare but it is a small black with dorado's and all the other neccessart stuff, i love my dare but my specialist is just so good that i hardly ride it, its fast, light and strong (and it looks the dogs!). I have it built with XTR/Saint MRP Chris king on D3.1 wheels, king headset Pyslo SL (they're the only fault, way too flexxy), thomson, etc. (sorry about the picture i used my phone, serious laziness.

Blanman

04-20-2004, 12:52 PM

Check out my new ID.
this past Saturday I did my 4th ride.

BlanMan

upnbike

04-21-2004, 09:55 PM

:cool: :D :) :D :cool:

eofer

04-27-2004, 07:19 AM

Hi all,
Here is an Id from Israel with love :p My Id

bikingviking

04-27-2004, 08:15 AM

These red Id's look stunning .
I'm sure it rides as well as it looks.

Maciejunio

04-29-2004, 06:21 PM

Another picture of my Joker.

maxturku

04-30-2004, 07:12 AM

this is my dare 2004 fr

Renegade

05-25-2004, 11:29 AM

My 2000 Joker, it's for sale if any of you would like to add to your collection.

http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=72051&query=retrieval

Bikemangobig

05-26-2004, 11:00 PM

Here's the Truth.

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/psfjjk.jpg

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/psfjd.jpg

Id

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/idconnector.jpg
ride on ellsworth friend i got pic in mtbr photo big bear on the moment

Bikemangobig

05-26-2004, 11:08 PM

Bikemangobig

05-26-2004, 11:14 PM

Standard shot-sorry no action shots

Best riding FS rig I've thrown a leg over and climbs technical terrain better than a hardtail.

Things I would change:
1. Put a real headtube badge on all frames, not a sticker and then charge $10 for one on your website.
2. Brake line guides-a must!
3. Get rid of the internal cable routing on the rear-end, its a hassle getting the cable thru the hole and you can't remove the housing from the stops to clean the cable.

I love riding this bike, so much so that I had a hard time riding my road bike last summer because the rigid rear end felt primitive compared to the high tech suspension on the Truth.
just bend the last 1" of cable and roll it untell it finds the hole takes me a hole 2 sec do u work at a shop i do thats how i do it its easy

Bikemangobig

05-26-2004, 11:20 PM

Bikemangobig

05-26-2004, 11:27 PM

Why is E. forcing people to upgrade to a complete 04' frame?, my 01' front section broke last summer and they replaced it (03' front section) w/o cost and they offered to upgrade my rear section to the new 04' rocker and shock at an add. $400, which I declined, but if the new rear end will work with previous years front sections, then shouldn't the 04' front section work with previous years rear sections? Maybe they do but E. is choosing not to handle it that way, I mean replacing the broken front section w/ an 04' front section at no cost. My experience w/ them has been fine, but I know they are p...ing people off with this 04' upgrade stuff. Anyway, I think my frame will hold up fine and if it doesn't, then I will probably ask them to build me a Truth w/heavier tubing and if they won't then I will go w/something else.
levrage ratio changed duh and did you read the warranty u should take time and really read it also u should be happy they offerd the 04 its trick plush and read reviews in mags whare the peolpe that r rateing them r real bikers not morons that bash on mtbr do u want a full sus 4 bar thats 100 % drive eff. i do your loss if u buy some thing else think before u talk ****

Bikemangobig

05-26-2004, 11:33 PM

I really like the look of your build and I like the frame colour.

Two question - On your chainstay is that a road tube or something raped around it, or something else. It looks very neat and tidy, wouldn't mind adding that to my Truth. Second question - Is your seatpost a 350mm or longer EC70. I have the 350mm and it continually slips and I have done some damage to the post so was thinking of getting the longer one... Curious to know if you know the weight of the post?

Sweet bike - Your girlfriend would probably spend more time on a Truth if she new how it rode!!!

Ciao
Trevor!
u should not run that seat post thomson is the way straight post never lay back

GregH

05-27-2004, 06:27 PM

Parts consist of,

' 03 Rock Shox Psylo XC, Manitou QR rear shock, Avid mechanical disc brakes, Chris King headset, Chris King ISO disc hubs, Salsa Gordo rims, Race Face Deuce stem, Race Face hanlebars and bash guard, Oury lock on grips, a mix of Shimano XT, XTR components and Maxxis High Roller Tires.

I want to upgrade the rear shock to a coil over. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Greg

Winston

05-28-2004, 04:53 PM

From the ashes of my Truth rose the ID.

rroeder

05-28-2004, 06:23 PM

levrage ratio changed duh and did you read the warranty u should take time and really read it also u should be happy they offerd the 04 its trick plush and read reviews in mags whare the peolpe that r rateing them r real bikers not morons that bash on mtbr do u want a full sus 4 bar thats 100 % drive eff. i do your loss if u buy some thing else think before u talk ****

My 9 year old daughter writes in better sentences, "think before u talk" -LOL

aideas23

06-05-2004, 04:31 PM

Here're my rides: a '04 Truth and '04 Joker XC

jimbo2k

06-06-2004, 03:01 AM

Nothing special, cept it's an Ellsworth

Gonz

06-15-2004, 09:30 PM

http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gGonz/bikes/Dare2b.jpg

Jr.M

06-16-2004, 02:38 AM

Hi all and greetings from Finland!

First post for this forum. Anyway here's my trailride '04 Joker XC with Psylo SL, Hayes HFX Comp, Mavic crossland UST, XTR and Roox components.

http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~hardcore/kuvat/Ellsworth%20Joker.jpg

My other rides are On-One Inbred SS and also commuter SS based on old road frame..

MJF

06-24-2004, 06:47 AM

An another greeting from Finland!

Just got my Id 2004, needs some minor uppgrading (handlebar, pedals and a golden headset :D ) before it´s perfect.

http://www.ridefree.fi/pics/rf948.jpg

ronny

06-25-2004, 11:30 PM

Any frame can and will break especially it it is used outside it's "intended purpose". I've been present when or personally broken many different brands. Personally, I've broken an Ellsworth, Azonic and a few Giants. I've seen Yeti, Specialized, Fisher, Trek, Turner and Santa Cruz frames break. Some were true JRA's and others were asking for the break. It is true though that alot of the early Ellsworths had some design flaws and were prone to break. I was treated very well when I called to warranty the part and had a completely redesigned swingarm in 4 days, no questions asked. I wouldn't be worried about if you are purchasing it new and as a matter of fact my next bike will be an Ellsworth.
Ellsworths claim to fame is the lightness of the frames. Sure the frames are the lightest in the business but light frames will not be as strong or as durable as heavier ones. I have a joker 7" so I am not concerned about breakage(I hope) but I have read hundreds of posts from surprised riders who break ellsworth frames(Mostly truths and older joker/isis)while doing unremarkable normal riding. Obviously something is not right here. Maybe the newer frames will be more durable.

coldsteele

07-09-2004, 04:20 PM

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/501/246667id11.jpg
http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/246667dare2.jpg
It's great when you can post your bikes for all to admire. :D

thegood

07-11-2004, 04:31 AM

http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gGonz/bikes/Dare2b.jpg

Where is the bike???

Whafe

07-11-2004, 10:41 PM

My Girlfriend.............................

<img src="http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/501/244335DARE1.jpg">

ronny

07-12-2004, 10:07 AM

Whafe

07-12-2004, 11:24 PM

It sure is great, nice looking bikes..........

<img src="http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/501/244335DARE11.jpg">
<img src="http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/501/244335DARE3.jpg">

sugardare

08-03-2004, 08:28 PM

Got the kit from the guys at Bike Co., SoCal.

Joker 7", Sherman Breakout 6", All XT, Hayes disc, Sun Singletracks w/ King/Marzocchi, Thomson, SDG, FSA bling, and Maxxis.

It's my second Ellsworth and it rocks.

fridge

08-17-2004, 09:04 AM

My first full suspension bike: Joker 7, XT / Mavic wheels, SRAM drivetrain.... just need a stiffer spring for the Romic (or to lose some weight) and a Marzocchi 66 fork :)

snutty

08-24-2004, 07:51 PM

my 02 dare

TruthDustin

08-26-2004, 05:24 PM

Heres a couple of pics of my Truth...

http://images.ofoto.com/photos760/1/18/76/32/95/8/895327618103_0_ALB.jpg
http://images.ofoto.com/photos760/1/18/76/53/47/9/947537618103_0_ALB.jpg

Camikaze

08-28-2004, 06:14 PM

Nice rides everybody, just when you think you're special, some other s**tbag comes along and shows you up...oh well, that's mountain biking.

Here's my 2005 Moment - took it out for a couple of rides over the weekend, and am stoked!

SCUBAPRO

09-03-2004, 01:54 PM

http://members.cox.net/rvalencia9/ID.JPG

kev0153

09-22-2004, 06:59 AM

All of these nice looking Ids, Moments and Dares :) . Here is a 2000 Truth to mix it up.

http://electricsphere.com/upload/photo_gallery/Bike/1095100094IMG_1704.JPG

XCRacer5

09-22-2004, 12:29 PM

Moved

raceimp

10-05-2004, 05:00 AM

Hi! I'm a new user and I've seen a tread on Ellsworth bikes pictures... So is mine!

schlitz

10-05-2004, 08:43 AM

one still. one action.

kruz

12-07-2004, 06:39 AM

Hi guys, this is my friend's ID. He has upgraded to 05 Dare.

Jii

12-29-2004, 01:43 AM

One more Ellsworth from Finland. Just got this beauty yesterday, spent all night building it...Can't wait to get out of the office and go riding! Thanks to my friend Kristian for the photo!
Snowy pic (http://steelduck.com/public/joker/2004-12-29_194414_0164.htm)

SprocketHead

01-29-2005, 11:29 PM

Well, here's my 2001 Truth. Although there seems to be a sense of aversion to this bike, I love it. It's been nothing but solid reliability and fun for me.

SprocketHead

01-29-2005, 11:34 PM

Here's Ahimanic's wife's 2004 Mini Truth, my g/f S/C Juliana, my 2001, and Ahimanic's 2000 Truth

-K3-

01-30-2005, 01:49 PM

One more from Finland

OneBlueJoker

01-30-2005, 06:44 PM

heres my joker and my dads ID

lidarman

01-31-2005, 09:26 AM

Well, here's my 2001 Truth. Although there seems to be a sense of aversion to this bike, I love it. It's been nothing but solid reliability and fun for me.
I'm glad you like it but like a person with high colesterol and a heart attact genetics, don't ignore the warnings. Check it regularily for cracks at the base of the rocker pivot bracket on the seat up. There is a stress riser in that design. It's not that people have an aversion to the BIKE, it's the fact that LOTS of them break there and there and a mechanical engineering freshman can recognize the flaw there.

...and of course you aren't going to have problems before it happens.

Michelin

02-14-2006, 08:22 AM

Come out of the woodwork and show us the goods. Tell us how you like it as well.

Here's our very own Photo-John in the delivery room!
Here's my Moment and i love it

brado1

02-14-2006, 09:49 AM

Here's my Guinness inspired Id lil' Black-n-Tan combo.

seems my bikes are fighting for my attention, and the Singlespeeds are getting a little more love here lately...
this is the Id's latest config with the newly replaced chainstay and new AM1. cheers

hangfire

02-14-2006, 09:57 AM

Come out of the woodwork and show us the goods. Tell us how you like it as well.

Here's our very own Photo-John in the delivery room!

Here is 'clean':

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/501/256370Faro-50.JPG

Here is after the latest adventure:

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/501/256370epi-dirty.JPG

chad1433

02-14-2006, 10:34 AM

Looking back thru this thread, there were a lot of Ells owners that don't post on here anymore...a whole lot of Jokers, Truths, Ids and Dares...where have you guys gone?

I recognize a few who are now on the Turner boards... :eek:

ahimanic

02-14-2006, 11:16 AM

chad1433

02-14-2006, 11:19 AM

Chad, don't go digg'n where there's a powerline!

LOL, that's funny... :)

I'd just like to see some more participation over here...I know the bike owners are out there, but I think they got a bit turned off and never came back...

ahimanic

02-14-2006, 11:58 AM

LOL, that's funny... :)

I'd just like to see some more participation over here...I know the bike owners are out there, but I think they got a bit turned off and never came back...

People come and go, get busy doing other stuff.

Do you know how to set up a sticky for an Epiphany database? Or to insert it into the existing database? We need one with all the new Epiphany owners.

chad1433

02-14-2006, 12:57 PM

People come and go, get busy doing other stuff.

Do you know how to set up a sticky for an Epiphany database? Or to insert it into the existing database? We need one with all the new Epiphany owners.

I think this has to be done by a Moderator. Trevor is/was our mod. I think.

Doubleoh9

02-14-2006, 08:36 PM

Maybe Ellsworth riders actually ride their bikes and don't just sit around talking about it on the internet! It is also possible that people get tired of all the childish crap that goes on on these boards. How many trolls try to stir stuff up? What about all the arm-chair engineers arguing about one bikes design over the other? I think many just enjoy riding and like avoid all this extra BS.

stiingya

02-14-2006, 10:33 PM

http://img2.photobucket.com/albums/v11/gGonz/bikes/Dare2b.jpg

When photoshoping a hot chick next to your bike, besides noting noise, focus, light sources, shadow, and that her right arm seems to be cut off; always remember a thing called SCALE!!!!

I'm sure she's petite in real life, but compared to your dare she's like 3 feet tall!!! :)

D@M she's HOT thought...

jenamin

02-15-2006, 11:43 AM

Mine:

chad1433

02-15-2006, 12:30 PM

Mine:

Good to see another fellow Coloradoan about!

dewthedru

03-06-2006, 07:46 AM

http://www.littleboyinc.com/uploader2/files/ellsworth/bike.jpg

chad1433

03-06-2006, 08:08 AM

Sweet dude!

You're shorter than I expected, though. Perhaps you'll grow into it soon... :D

dewthedru

03-06-2006, 09:03 AM

Sweet dude!

You're shorter than I expected, though. Perhaps you'll grow into it soon... :D

unfortunately, he's the only one that can appreciate the bike right now. i had to fly out to portland for most of the week and leave my new bike hanging in the garage. :(

bamxbam

03-08-2006, 08:49 PM

never posted a pic of here before

wilsonblur

06-27-2006, 03:18 AM

ellsworth 4 bar has instant center tracking read up ellsworth all the way those who ride know been riding for years on them santa cruz sux sorry i use to have one super light or super bob

There's no doubt that Ells makes a great riding bike, but to blatanly overlook the companies frame failures and scores of unhappy customers is just blind. Santa Cruz makes great bikes along with many other manufacturers. If effeciency were the only standard by which one rated bikes then Ells might be in the top 5, but there are so many other categories in which you rank frame builders. If effeciency is your only category buy a HT. I have read up on Ells and suffered through a really unreliable bike that spent as much time being repaired as ridden.

Honestly I feel for me my Blur is a better bike than the Truth I owned. I really liked my truth's ride and weight, I just don't miss all the hassle and poor service which I hear Ells has improved. There are choices that work for different people, and that's great. I don't race and I ride alot of 20-40kms of single track that is technical. I find the blur to suit me better in steep terrain, so there's nothing to be sorry about, I got into a completely reliable bike that helps me spend more time on the trail and fits and rides better for me. Blanket GM union worker type statments about other companies isn't really helpful to the discussion and shows a pretty subjective understanding of the bike world.

eretzIsrael

06-27-2006, 07:53 AM

This bike is amazing I can not say enought words about how tight she runs!

ahimanic

06-27-2006, 09:43 AM

Digging up and replying to a post that is over 2 years old?

Perhaps you should look at how Ellsworth is performing today.

Everybody has their share of problems. I personally know of two Blurs that had the linkage bolts snap and one of them was out of the showroom floor for less than 3 weeks.

offtheedge

06-27-2006, 04:23 PM

reminds me.............GO FOR A RIDE!!!!!!!!!

she now has roco-ti and xt 755s w/ goodridge lines and many other little upgrades

Jim Burke

06-29-2006, 08:46 PM

My Moment. Had it about 3 months:thumbsup:

Tarbaby4Ever

06-29-2006, 08:59 PM

Paint job on that frame is very cool,I love the grey ! what size frame ?

Jim Burke

06-29-2006, 09:07 PM

It is a large frame, 19.

Big Chipper

06-30-2006, 05:56 AM

My Joker built up XC/AM style (30.5lbs)

Tarbaby4Ever

07-04-2006, 06:17 PM

Well, here's my 2001 Truth. Although there seems to be a sense of aversion to this bike, I love it. It's been nothing but solid reliability and fun for me.

I would kill to have this color available on newer Truths,Green is my fave color for a bike,in fact my last two full sussy's were a shade of green,a Proflex 753 and a Fat Chance SAB.
I would go with a brand new 06 IF that color,or something very close was available.