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bulldog1
11-08-2004, 01:02 PM
i need new lights for 2005 race season :D
i used a HID for the past 3 years not a problem but it sucks in the FOG !!!!!
i am looking at 2 lights ARC Li-ion Ultra and the Cycole. :confused:
let me know !!!! :D

KERKOVEJ
11-08-2004, 03:08 PM
i need new lights for 2005 race season :D
i used a HID for the past 3 years not a problem but it sucks in the FOG !!!!!
i am looking at 2 lights ARC Li-ion Ultra and the Cycole. :confused:
let me know !!!! :D


Cateye is going to be having some new racer oriented lights coming out in 2005 sometime (not 100% sure on the date). I had a chance to test these new lights at Slickrock before the 24 hours of Moab. All I can say is wait, cause there is nothing like it in the cycling market yet. People will be blown away when these come out. I am now in hush-hush mode.....Shhhhhh.

Eddie O
11-08-2004, 03:43 PM
While we wait with bated breadth for the Cateye announcement ;) , I'll give you my 2 cents. I've been using the Arc Li-ion all this year and love it. The Ultra is a new battery which weighs a bit more, but offers a longer burn time. It's the same technology from L&M just a different configuration. It's bright, white and lite. Add to that durable and affordable.

Eddie O

hencycle
11-08-2004, 04:22 PM
I have tested pretty much every system on the market and have found Lupine to be by far the best available. Lupine lights work great in all conditions and are the lighest,brightest and most durable lighting system money can buy. You may take a look at www.gretnabikes.com (http://www.gretnabikes.com)

Mark Hendershot
Santa Cruz Syndicate

bulldog1
11-09-2004, 05:15 AM
Jeff thanks for the info on the new light !!! I will just wait now !!!

Eddie O thanks for the info just found someone with that light and going to try it out !!!!

Mark H thanks for the info !! Want model are you using ? I know someone that racing for gretnabike maybe I can try a light out !!!!

hencycle
11-09-2004, 06:44 AM
Jeff thanks for the info on the new light !!! I will just wait now !!!

Eddie O thanks for the info just found someone with that light and going to try it out !!!!

Mark H thanks for the info !! Want model are you using ? I know someone that racing for gretnabike maybe I can try a light out !!!!

I use the Edison 4, but any system you could get your hands on will give you an idea of how great Lupine lights really work.

1speed_Mike
11-09-2004, 06:53 AM
I have tested pretty much every system on the market and have found Lupine to be by far the best available. Lupine lights work great in all conditions and are the lighest,brightest and most durable lighting system money can buy. You may take a look at www.gretnabikes.com (http://www.gretnabikes.com)

Mark Hendershot
Santa Cruz Syndicate

I've been using a Lupine Edison 10 (with a spare 5.5 Ah Li-Ion battery) for just over 3-yrs (including a few solo 24s) and it has been flawless and continues to pump-out amazing light output.

For my needs (solo 24s, and lots of night riding from Oct-Mar), it is perfect. I need a light that's bright (the Eddy is damn bright!), has a long burntime (8-hrs on low is long, I'd say), short charge times, durable, reliable, light, etc. The Eddy fits the bill perfectly. The only negative...price!

Brad
11-19-2004, 07:01 AM
I've had my edison 10 for just over a year. the light is covered by a 2yr warranty and the bulb 1 yr. Lupine are the only company to offer a warranty on the bulb as well. Thats hw much confidence they have in their electronics.

Recently mine refused to switch between low and high beam. I sent it back and they sorted it out the same day. Was back on my bike in a week total turn around. I'm an antipodean and they're in germany. Their service is top notch and the product is even better.

Not sure about the new cateye Stadium *due for launch in March next year apparently) but it is rumoured to be another HID with many Lupine like Features and of course fitted with on of cateyes superb reflectors.

Right now I'd get another Lupine, simply because their service is so good and the product so well designed and manufacturerd

TBaggers
11-19-2004, 04:02 PM
i need new lights for 2005 race season :D
i used a HID for the past 3 years not a problem but it sucks in the FOG !!!!!
i am looking at 2 lights ARC Li-ion Ultra and the Cycole. :confused:
let me know !!!! :D

I picked up a Light&Motion HID and Solo Logic MV this year (both with the Lion Ultra battery) for adventure racing. L&M says the HID will run up to 6 or 6.5 hours on the low setting and I have verified that in a couple races. It never died on me and I wonder how much longer it might have burned. Luckily the sun rose or we finished that leg of that race before I found out. The Solo Logic MV is a great halogen light with 3 power settings. The "MV" version means it is compatible with any of the L&M batteries. L&M estimates it will burn up to 11 hours (I presume at low setting) with the Lion Ultra. I use it on my helmet and change the power settings as needed. It has run for a good 6 hours with no hint of dying as well. The MV is also nice because the it puts out good amount of light and the light unit itself is super lightweight. The Hid and MV together make a nice setup. Lastly, customer service has been great at L&M.

Of course with this hint of Cateye coming out with a better system that will hopefully be lighter, less bulky, and longer burning than the Stadium, it may be worth the wait to see. I also have a friend who has forked out the dough for an Edison and he loves it. Yes, I forked out some dough for my two systems (although some sponsorhip helped), but the nice part is now I have in essence two systems and hence back up and good cross compatibility if one system dies on the trail, during a race, etc. Oh, and the turbo chargers charge up the batteries quite quickly.

Sthenic
12-06-2004, 08:47 AM
I just found a helmet mounted HID motorcycle light for $130, and can buy the battery for about $63. This includes softstart for the HID, Li-ion battery, smart charger, etc. It really looks like a nice system. I would guess that it's durable and bright as it's made for off roading. I also like that it's a complete package and don't have to worry that some thing I've patched together won't work. Any objections?

rapwithtom
01-05-2005, 05:58 PM
I just found a helmet mounted HID motorcycle light for $130, and can buy the battery for about $63. This includes softstart for the HID, Li-ion battery, smart charger, etc. It really looks like a nice system. I would guess that it's durable and bright as it's made for off roading. I also like that it's a complete package and don't have to worry that some thing I've patched together won't work. Any objections?
How is it working out?
How is the mounting? I am interested in getting this and figuring out how to mount it to the handlbars...

Thanks

Sthenic
01-05-2005, 06:31 PM
How is it working out?
How is the mounting? I am interested in getting this and figuring out how to mount it to the handlbars...

Thanks

The battery place now supplies both the light and battery, so I've ordered it and it's supposed to be here on the 7th. I'm sure to test it soon and can let you know. I am planning on mounting it to my helmet, with the small battery in my back pocket. I don't think this setup is that great for attatching to the handlebars, but I will let you know when I see it. It certainly saves a bundle of $.

rapwithtom
01-05-2005, 07:48 PM
The battery place now supplies both the light and battery, so I've ordered it and it's supposed to be here on the 7th. I'm sure to test it soon and can let you know. I am planning on mounting it to my helmet, with the small battery in my back pocket. I don't think this setup is that great for attatching to the handlebars, but I will let you know when I see it. It certainly saves a bundle of $.Can you post the link to the light? I can't find it...and if it's a better deal than trailtech then I need to know!

Sthenic
01-05-2005, 08:04 PM
Can you post the link to the light? I can't find it...and if it's a better deal than trailtech then I need to know!

batteryspace - I wasn't sure if I was allowed to post websites. There's a bike light section listed on the index on the left side.
The light is the same cost $129.50, but the battery is quite a bit cheaper. The batteryspace battery doesn't have quite as high as the trailtech one (4000mah vs 4400 mah) but it's much, much cheaper ($66 vs. $190).
You would also save on the combined shipping.
I don't think this light is quite as bright as the nightrider, but it's close.

Sthenic
01-12-2005, 05:32 AM
Can you post the link to the light? I can't find it...and if it's a better deal than trailtech then I need to know!
I've gotten the light in, but there are a few minor problems. I need to make a better connector. The one I was trying wasn't solid enough. There also the problem of the battery cable is aluminum while the light cable is copper. The light cable is also very long and quite heavy duty. Not so much of a problem, but it does add a little weight. I may have to use one of my old helmets to mount the light unless I find a way to make a removable mount. I did get it to turn on, and it is bright. I'll let you know how it progresses.

jl
01-12-2005, 10:28 AM
SThenic,

I'm interested in this project. Please post some pics if you can, and also part numbers from batteryspace. I'm no electrician, but what is the problem with copper to aluminum?

rapwithtom
01-27-2005, 01:33 PM
I've gotten the light in, but there are a few minor problems. I need to make a better connector. The one I was trying wasn't solid enough. There also the problem of the battery cable is aluminum while the light cable is copper. The light cable is also very long and quite heavy duty. Not so much of a problem, but it does add a little weight. I may have to use one of my old helmets to mount the light unless I find a way to make a removable mount. I did get it to turn on, and it is bright. I'll let you know how it progresses.
So what's the verdict on the light?

Sthenic
01-27-2005, 02:45 PM
So what's the verdict on the light?

Sorry for the delay. I accidentally fried the circuit board on the battery pack. I had to order a 2nd battery pack anyway, so I took a chance that this would all work out. I have yet to replace the circuit board, but the new battery pack works great. I just got it in a couple of days ago, so I have yet to take a night ride, but I can tell you that it's very bright. I have a 10w light that it blows away. The color is a nice white light. It is also has a wide angle to the light (flood version of the buld), so I have good visibility. It's bright enough that despite the wide angle you can also see well ahead of yourself. There are some disadvantages to the system. The helmet mount would take some working with to adapt to a bicycle helmet. It's essentially a stronger version of velcro. For now, I just glued it onto an older helmet. Secondly, the wires from the light are quite heavy duty. This may add a little more weight to the helmet than you would care for. Once I used a real connector to adapt the battery pack to the light cable, I was in good shape. I will probably do a little test ride this evening, but I'm sure I will be quite happy with the system.

Sthenic
01-27-2005, 02:55 PM
SThenic,

I'm interested in this project. Please post some pics if you can, and also part numbers from batteryspace. I'm no electrician, but what is the problem with copper to aluminum?

Sorry for the long delay. Had a couple of problems and needed some new parts shipped. I've given my review of sorts above, but in answer to your question...
http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=499
This should take you to the bike light section. From there you can choose your battery pack (I'm using the 14.8v 4000mah Li-Ion) or your HID light (trail tech).
I don't have a camera to take pictures of my setup. When I get one, I can do that too.
I have a limited underdstanding of the problems of copper to aluminum connections, but here I go anyway. Aluminum tends to oxidize (corrode) anyway, but does so faster in contact with certain metals (copper). The more it corrodes, the more resistance in the connection, the more it heats up, the more it corrodes, etc. This may not be a problem for my little wires, but is a somewhat common problem in houses. I used a connector that crimps the wires seperately, thus out of contact with each other. I also noticed that with this light, you do need a good connection or the light won't turn on.

art_vandelay
01-27-2005, 10:53 PM
Sorry for the delay. I accidentally fried the circuit board on the battery pack. I had to order a 2nd battery pack anyway, so I took a chance that this would all work out. I have yet to replace the circuit board, but the new battery pack works great. I just got it in a couple of days ago, so I have yet to take a night ride, but I can tell you that it's very bright. I have a 10w light that it blows away. The color is a nice white light. It is also has a wide angle to the light (flood version of the buld), so I have good visibility. It's bright enough that despite the wide angle you can also see well ahead of yourself. There are some disadvantages to the system. The helmet mount would take some working with to adapt to a bicycle helmet. It's essentially a stronger version of velcro. For now, I just glued it onto an older helmet. Secondly, the wires from the light are quite heavy duty. This may add a little more weight to the helmet than you would care for. Once I used a real connector to adapt the battery pack to the light cable, I was in good shape. I will probably do a little test ride this evening, but I'm sure I will be quite happy with the system.

I was actually just about to order this exact setup from batteryspace and saw your post here. So I'm just curious what happened with that first battery? Also, from their website it looked like you could buy the light and their battery and be good to go, so what exactly did you have to buy for a connector and where did you get it? Thanks for letting me pick your brain! :D

Sthenic
01-28-2005, 04:35 AM
I was actually just about to order this exact setup from batteryspace and saw your post here. So I'm just curious what happened with that first battery? Also, from their website it looked like you could buy the light and their battery and be good to go, so what exactly did you have to buy for a connector and where did you get it? Thanks for letting me pick your brain! :D
At some point in the wiring process, I wired it backwards. The colors don't match from the trail tech light, to the batterspace battery. White to red, and white to black (or no color). This meant I short circuited the battery circuit board. I bought a replacement at batteryspace. I had to do all of this because none of the universal connectors that batteryspace included were big enough to match the trail tech connector. Trail tech provides their own connector, but you need to splice a couple of wires (back to the misplaced colors). The only things I bought at Radio Shack were some crimp connectors and some shrink wrap tubing. I haven't fixed my first battery pack yet, but aside from having to do a little soldering, I should be good to go.

art_vandelay
01-28-2005, 09:12 AM
At some point in the wiring process, I wired it backwards. The colors don't match from the trail tech light, to the batterspace battery. White to red, and white to black (or no color). This meant I short circuited the battery circuit board. I bought a replacement at batteryspace. I had to do all of this because none of the universal connectors that batteryspace included were big enough to match the trail tech connector. Trail tech provides their own connector, but you need to splice a couple of wires (back to the misplaced colors). The only things I bought at Radio Shack were some crimp connectors and some shrink wrap tubing. I haven't fixed my first battery pack yet, but aside from having to do a little soldering, I should be good to go.

I guess I'm just surprised that the batteryspace battery wasn't set up to go with that trailtech light out of the box. My impression of batteryspace is that they are doing the custom/homemade/generic or whatever you want to call it as far as bike light batteries go so why not send that battery with the right connector? Especially if they're marketing that battery to go with the trailtech light? Ah well, what can you do?

Thanks for sharing your experience. BTW, have you tested the light yet to see if the burn time is what battery spaces says it will be with that combo?

Sthenic
01-28-2005, 10:52 AM
I guess I'm just surprised that the batteryspace battery wasn't set up to go with that trailtech light out of the box. My impression of batteryspace is that they are doing the custom/homemade/generic or whatever you want to call it as far as bike light batteries go so why not send that battery with the right connector? Especially if they're marketing that battery to go with the trailtech light? Ah well, what can you do?

Thanks for sharing your experience. BTW, have you tested the light yet to see if the burn time is what battery spaces says it will be with that combo?

I don't know the burn time yet, but I will as I do need to know. I was a little surprised about the connectors. I probably would have shortened the cord anyway, as the total length would have been about eight feet or so. This is a new product for them, so hopefully this is something they will fix in the future. Otherwise, they seem to do a pretty good job.

As a side note, are you really in latex manufacturing, or just a Seinfeld fan?

art_vandelay
01-28-2005, 11:08 AM
As a side note, are you really in latex manufacturing, or just a Seinfeld fan?

Just a Seinfan...I think there's probably a little bit of George Costanza in all of us (even if we don't want to admit it!).

Hey, you're from Tucson! Did you pick up this light for the 24 hours of the Old Pueblo next month? I'll be riding on a 4 man team hence my need for lights...

Sthenic
01-28-2005, 12:07 PM
Just a Seinfan...I think there's probably a little bit of George Costanza in all of us (even if we don't want to admit it!).

Hey, you're from Tucson! Did you pick up this light for the 24 hours of the Old Pueblo next month? I'll be riding on a 4 man team hence my need for lights...

Yep. I'm hoping two batteries, and perhaps the ability to partially charge one, will get me through the duo class. I think I may be out late enough tonight to test the light while mountain biking.

art_vandelay
01-28-2005, 12:19 PM
I think I may be out late enough tonight to test the light while mountain biking.

I'm jealous...the mountain biking I mean...All our trails have at least a foot of snow on them right now. Tonight I'll probably end up back at the gym on a spin bike. Hopefully I'll be able to do this in between the spin classes. I was in there the other day during a class and the instructor was playing everything from Britney Spears to Willie Nelson and just when I thought it couldn't get any worse she popped in a techno remix of the Rocky theme. I started laughing so hard I nearly fell off my bike.

Spinning is a necessary evil for me right now. Enjoy the dirt tonight.

rapwithtom
01-29-2005, 12:03 AM
I've bought the Li-Ion battery packs from batteryspace - the ones that are supposed to fit in a water bottle. They don't, as they are in a 4x4x1configuration, which makes them have a slightly larger diameter than any water bottle I could find. I'm in the process of taking apart there shrink tubing to make the batteries arranged 2 wide by 2 deep by 2 tall. Then they'll fit in a bottle fine.

What sort of connector did you find, and where did you get it from? I tried to find out where to get the nifty connector that jet lights uses but they told me to pound sand.

Sthenic
01-29-2005, 05:14 AM
I've bought the Li-Ion battery packs from batteryspace - the ones that are supposed to fit in a water bottle. They don't, as they are in a 4x4x1configuration, which makes them have a slightly larger diameter than any water bottle I could find. I'm in the process of taking apart there shrink tubing to make the batteries arranged 2 wide by 2 deep by 2 tall. Then they'll fit in a bottle fine.

What sort of connector did you find, and where did you get it from? I tried to find out where to get the nifty connector that jet lights uses but they told me to pound sand.
A nice removable connector came with the Tech Light. The connectors I bought were semi-permanent crimp style. However, I would suggest Radio Shack. They have a range of styles. As for your water bottle, I thought batteryspace suggested which bottle to use? There's one from Kmart that should be larger. I think that's what they use when they do it themselves. If your are changing the battery configuration, just be careful about soldering directly to the batteries. Hopefully you are have the ones with tabs. If you have further problems, they have a forum for asking questions.

Sthenic
01-29-2005, 05:22 AM
I'm jealous...the mountain biking I mean...All our trails have at least a foot of snow on them right now. Tonight I'll probably end up back at the gym on a spin bike. Hopefully I'll be able to do this in between the spin classes. I was in there the other day during a class and the instructor was playing everything from Britney Spears to Willie Nelson and just when I thought it couldn't get any worse she popped in a techno remix of the Rocky theme. I started laughing so hard I nearly fell off my bike.

Spinning is a necessary evil for me right now. Enjoy the dirt tonight.

If you fall off the bike, you'll give everyone else a good laugh too. What's your team name? We are Good Wheel Hunting.
I did get a night ride in. I ended up just doing a short loop as I was a little leary of that area by myself. However, I must say the light worked great. I was riding at near daylight speeds with no problem. There is a little bit of a lack of perspective so it's harder to tell how big the drop off really is. Going around corners was excellent and I was able to go as fast as I wanted on the straights too. As for burn time, I've only run it for about an hour so far, so I don't know yet.

MagnumsMayhem
02-01-2005, 12:52 PM
Just wondering what the latest results were in the Trailtech/Batteryspace saga. It looks like an interesting and inexpensive solution. Let us know if you have an update and more exciting information.

Sthenic
02-01-2005, 01:00 PM
Just wondering what the latest results were in the Trailtech/Batteryspace saga. It looks like an interesting and inexpensive solution. Let us know if you have an update and more exciting information.
So far it's working well. I'm doing a group night ride tomorrow that will give me some comparison to other riders. So far I'd have to say that the little bit of work that I've had to do is well worth the $200 I've saved. I'm not sure a brighter light would make any difference at this point or the aliens might start confusing me with their landing strip.

MegaVolt
02-01-2005, 06:38 PM
Just wondering what the latest results were in the Trailtech/Batteryspace saga. It looks like an interesting and inexpensive solution. Let us know if you have an update and more exciting information.

I got the same light, and I really like it. The controller you get with it makes life easy. The light itself requires 12-14V input, but if you just get, say, a 14.4li-ion battery, it will have an output of 16+V when fully charged. That would blow the light, but the controller regulates the output and it also shuts the light down when the battery goes below 11V to make sure your Li-Ion battery is safe from deep discharge.

I needed another connector for their light, I called trailtech and asked about it -- 72 hours later they had this connector available to order on their web site.

Great quality product, lightning fast customer service, damn low price for that light.

I only I get it right, the bulbs come from (Welch Allyn. Solarс).
Just take a look: http://solarc.net/docs/products_bike.html

It's the same company that provides them to Lupine, Topeak, L&M, NR,
Cygolite, and most others. It's the battery, and the marketing that makes for the price difference. The lamps are the same.

Of course, Li-Ion from Panasonic could make a hell of a difference with a cheaper and older li-ion cells, but if you can put up with it and get the same light output for half the price then why not get a cheaper Li-Ion battery. It's only good for 300-500 cycles anyway.

I just hooked this light to my good old 14.4V 4500ah NiMH battery and am happy as hell. Just a month ago, I would get from it just ~4 hours of a 10Wt halogen light. Now it's ~4 hours of 10Wt H.I.D. light. The difference is so smashing I still can't believe it only took $130 to get it.

sp00kme
02-02-2005, 02:53 AM
would it be best to get the 11.1v or 14.8v Li-ion battery pack for this light? I want to put the battery in my jersey pocket.
and
what is the actual size of the light itself, is it suitable for mtb helmet mount ? I notice they have it on a motorcycle helmet.

Thanks for any advice

MegaVolt
02-02-2005, 05:18 AM
would it be best to get the 11.1v or 14.8v Li-ion battery pack for this light? I want to put the battery in my jersey pocket.
and
what is the actual size of the light itself, is it suitable for mtb helmet mount ? I notice they have it on a motorcycle helmet.

Thanks for any advice
According to the tech support, their controller will pulse width modulate the input to 14.8 volts until the input drops below 14.8 volts. At this point it will just pass the input. At 11 volts, the controller will turn the lights off to prevent damage to a Li-Ion cell.

In other words, the controller is designed to work with the output provided with 4/8/12 :)) 3.7v Li-Ion cells. At their nominal of 14.8v they would give you a little over 16.8 when freshly charged, and their lowest should be no less than 11 volts.

That means that you'll never be able to get all of the juice from a 11.1v battery. The controller will shut the light down before your battery gets 1/4 discharged. Get a 14.8v/14.4v battery instead.

Sthenic
02-02-2005, 05:33 AM
would it be best to get the 11.1v or 14.8v Li-ion battery pack for this light? I want to put the battery in my jersey pocket.
and
what is the actual size of the light itself, is it suitable for mtb helmet mount ? I notice they have it on a motorcycle helmet.

Thanks for any advice

The light is about 3.25 inches long by a max width of 1.75. The 14.8 Li-ion battery pack that I have from batteryspace is about 2.5 * 3 * 1.5 and easily fits in my jersey pocket. I've epoxied the mount (essential a stronger version of your normal velcro) to an older helmet, and this seems to work well. However, I would like to know of other's successful mounts.
Thanks MegaVolt for the electrical details. I'm still looking for a backup lamp. I think trailtech offers one, but it's not apparent on their website.

Homebrew
02-02-2005, 08:15 AM
You definitely want a 14.4V battery. I'm going to order the 2000mAh 4 cell Li-Ion pack from Battery Space. That should give a bit over 2 hours which is fine for most of my mid-week DST night rides and be extremely light. At less than $30 each they are pretty cheap if I wanted to get a couple for racing. I have a 14.4V NiMH pack that I'm using for now that will burn for over 4 hours.

Trail Tech tech support doesn't know what they are talking about. I asked them the same question about the regulator output voltage and they said the same 14.8V. If that were true, it would be way too high for the ballast. I measured mine at 12.9V under load which is just the right voltage to get full power out of the bulb. I think they measured it without the light on to come up with that bogus 14.8 number. Anyway, the Trail Tech light is much better than my Marwi Extreme HID that was regulated to 12V and basically running on low power mode all the time.

The "velcro" (3M Dual Lock) seems to holding up fine for me. You do have to put it a bit further back on the helmet to get the right angle. Be sure to double check placement on the bike in your riding position before sticking. Overall, it's a killer deal.

The individual HID light they sell seems to be a different construction and is much heavier. This helmet mount is made from aluminum and very light.

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/516/234113IMG_0013_2.JPG

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/516/234113Img_0014.jpg

sportsman
02-04-2005, 07:03 AM
Which batery circuit board did you pick up? I've received my light and battery/chargr this week and played with it last night. Seems to have about a 4 hour battery life, I'm going to build some new batteries for 24 hour stuff, and repalce the heavy, wire from the light with a smaller one. Just curious which CB you used as a replacement, when I looked at them a few weeks ago, the one you could buy didn't seem to have the same characteristics as the ones pre-installed on the battery pack.,

sp00kme
04-04-2005, 10:34 PM
i've finally got around to ordering the Trailtech single 13w HID system. I'm just wondering if anyone has done anything cool with the mounting on a cycle helmet. Not sure I'm keen on sticking the velcro on my helmet.
Do you think a helmet mount from one of the big names could be adapted to hold the Trailtech light ?

Also, it is simple to shorten the cable, which seems pretty industrial and too long.

bulldog1
08-12-2005, 06:11 AM
Update
I was looking to buy lights for the 2005 race season and came up with the best lights I ever used.
Lupine Lights Web at www.gretnabikes.com Bill knows his product inside and out.
I race 24 hour races and I needed a light the will hold up + my training is 75 % at night I work full time + family.

Quick story about the lights I was racing at 24 hour race last month. I was riding behind people that told me to shut my second light off and then I said
I am just racing with one light.

I hear all over the web they cost to much money but you are spending a little more money on a better product . People spend more money on
Bikes trying to saving a pound or two.


Give you some info on the light !!!!!

Allgemein Metal Halide (Xenon) beam: Edison works with all Lupine rechargeable batteries (7.2 V). Its performance of 900 lumen output (in comparison: NightMare Pro 25W HP bulb has 550 lumen output) equals a 65 Watt HP halogen bulb - with the bright white light (colour temperature 6000 K) of xenon car head lamps. Beam divergence is 18°: therefore, Edison has an extremely large light range with excellent peripheral illumination. Since September 2005 the mount is moveable.
Edison has two beam settings to reduce power consumption. Beam settings are regulated via PCS V4 switch unit which is equipped with a programmable capacity control.
The Edison is small in size and comes with the typical Lupine casing. Diametre: 41mm, Length: 50mm.
Bulb 10/16 W Metal-Halide (Xenon) , 18°
Performance 10/16 W (performance equals 20/65 W Halogen)
Battery Li-Ion 6,5 Ah softcase (Edison 5)
Electronics PCS 007 V4.1, on/off, low setting/bright setting, LED monitor, low battery warning LEDs, voltage test, blue backlight
Burn Time 16 watt (950 lumen, eqv 65 watt) = 3 hours
10 watt (500 lumen, eqv 20 watt) = 4 hours 20 min.
charge time: 3 hours
Charger Charger One
charging current 2.5A (90-240 V)
microprocessor controlled charger, LCD screen to monitor voltage, current and charged capacity, voltage 90-240V, discharge program 0.1-0.5 A, 12V in-car charger adaptor, aluminium housing, works worldwide
Mounting Fast and easy mounting with the patented closure. With the rubber (EPDM-Neopren) ring closure provided, Edison can be mounted to every handlebar.
Material Shot-peen casing, black, with PCS V4 cable
Weight 450 gr.
Warranty two years