**I found a really deserving kid here in town that just cracked his old frame. I'm a going to give him the frame. Thanks for all the interest. Please no more inquiries

you can e-mail me at whyiskyle@aol.com

So basically the BB just needs to be re threaded?

How much for shipping bro?

i'm sorry to hear it man, i had high hopes for the 10-96

email sent...

Wow. Not what I expected.

Really sorry to hear that Rick won't correct the situation. That's bunk.

PM and email sent. Rest assured, it will be in the best of hands with me. Haha.

i would, i should. but i just what a bike to ride, dont want to have to deal with getting it built up and compents

I have gotten plenty of response so hold off for a bit. I will get the bike to somebody deserving. WORD!

ooh, ooh, rolex, make them write essays about why they want/deserve the frame!
(and don't give it to someone like me who cant afford nice enough components for a frame like that)

when i had a frame to give away like that, i only made the offer available to groms that were less than 15 yeas old. i just felt better about hooking up someone who otherwise would never see the likes of such a cool bike. some fool who can afford to buy his own bike should be made to do so. if you really do get rid of the frame, IMO you should do something similar...

FWIW, i think you are worried about nothing. i'd be lying if i said i never cross threaded bottom brackets before, only to go on abusing said frames for plenty of years until they failed in other places. none of the frames ever gave me the slightest hint of an issue. if you are worried about a bb that threads easily, think about this, 99% of nuts easily thread onto bolts and never come loose afte tightened...

oh, I know that the it would probably never be an issue, but.. If I cross-threaded the bb myself it would be one thing, but buying a new frame I don't think it is to much to ask that the threads be fully intact and clean. Plus it doesn't just thread on easily, but actually moves side to side until completely snugged against the frame.

Now we just have to wait for Brad to chime in on this, pretty raw deal you got it would seem, hopefully RTW can drop in and try to explain himself, or something.

Sucks for you. Will make someone else happy. Still its a pitty you and RTW couldnt sort it...

I agree 150% with WCH on that one.

JB-Weld a cheap bottom bracket in as best you can, and ride it till it breaks, IMO. As long as it threads in straight you're probably a-ok.

(It might not ever break ;))

Yea I would side with WCH on trying to make this frame work for you. I don't fully agree with giving it to a newbie pre 15 yr old. Unless you knew he was really dedicated and capable of building it instead of it collecting dust in his closet next to his playboys.

I gave a few things away to some young kats only to be disappointed cuz them kids went on to do other things.

HAH. I can't wait to hear Ricks response to this....

You could try this
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179707
It might work. Maybe...

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damn

i agree with WCH totaly. but it should be 15 and under :)

wow.
im pretty sure that this thread is gunna get pretty heated...
someone should close it b4 it gets to hot...

Bro, I'm not trying to defame you, I'm just telling my side of the story. You were rude to me on the phone and now here. I said in my post and other times that your welding and construction is outstanding, but it is still possible to make mistakes.

what rick said...

if this does get locked eventually, which i'm expecting it to, i just wanted to insert this. i found it funny.

edit: mods took off the pic

Sounds Fishy to me!! I discovered that some how during the production process the bottom bracket was cross-threadedI seriously doubt any frame builder would let something like happen, let alone let it out of the shop if it did.

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I am giving it to Derek. He has a friend who needs a bike! Thanks

Sounds Fishy to me!! I seriously doubt any frame builder would let something like happen, let alone let it out of the shop if it did.


wheres that quote from?

wheres that quote from?

original post before edit

Soap Opera!!! The angry welder, mamma's boy, his helpful friend, the "Bro" and the mysterious Salt Lake area mechanics. Enter the legal teams!! Fight!

Come on guys, put this to rest.

Why must this become a legal battle? There's probably a simpler way around this...

wow. so let me get this straight. rick didnt mess up the frame, the buyer did and now he got upset at rick then realized he coulndt win the battle then tried to be nice to rick again? now he wants to give the frame away? broken??? im confused. re reading time.

btw im not siding with anyone if it sounds like it.

wow. so let me get this straight. rick didnt mess up the frame, the buyer did and now he got upset at rick then realized he couldnt win the battle then tried to be nice to rick again?

Rick's day job is welding the some of the most expensive and high tech bike frames in the world. Before the bike industry, he worked in aerospace where everything you do is recorded and tracked. If an airplane crashed today, and the NTSB figured it was from a faulty weld job on a wing spar, they would be able to go thru the aircraft records, find what company welded the joints, and find out the specific welder who welded that joint. That welder would be in a lot of f-ing trouble, and probably out of a job quick.

That experience has taught Rick to not make mistakes, measure five times before cutting once, then checking the cut three more times afterwards. This carries over to welding bike frames for his company. Fvcking up an M5 frame is not an option, materials cost way too much to be using using "amateur" welders.

Now that Rick welds on his own (OSW), he know about the liability of what he puts out. Hes no dummy, and does fantastic work. These 10- series frames are a labor of love, he is not going to half-a$$ his work even if he is giving a discount and taking a loss on what he should be making for the frame.

I have a suspicion that soemone didnt know how to install a BB correctly, or was just ham-fisted and forced something that should have just slid right in. BB's thread in easily when the threads are chased, clean and greased. :skep:

Hope it all works out. I think its funny that the OP needed Mommy to make straighten things out with Rick.

...says the professional coffee processing unit.

Geoff said it right and I'm pretty sure everyone here has been thinking the same thing. Some at the beginning offered up some suggestions without airing their thoughts.

With everyone knowing the obvious, the thing that I can't wrap my brain around is what Rolex was trying to accomplish by making this public? His front was to give this frame away to someone, sure. He could've easily given the frame to someone without taking it to the forum. I know some deserving kats in my area. I can't see him just trying to dis-credit Rick, it doesn't add up, no one would buy into that. It can't be the money either cuz he knows damn well he ain't getting it, mosly knowing that he caused this problem. It has to be the public pity he thinks he deserves.

I know it's in bad taste to reply to this thread but damn if you're gonna put this crap on the boards and think no one is gonna do it.

(edited because i know geoffss saw my comment)

wheres that quote from? Page 1 of this thread? Is that a trick question?

Page 1 of this thread? Is that a trick question?


no, my reading comprehension sucks, and i didnt read it all through the first time, so what makes you think im going to re read.. i like to be spoon fed information for later regurgitation. :thumbsup:

no, my reading comprehension sucks, and i didnt read it all through the first time, so what makes you think im going to re read.. i like to be spoon fed information for later regurgitation. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: Gotcha!

(edited because i know geoffss saw my comment)
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=290171

:stands corrected: :thumbsup:

At least it was an easy fix to go from 10mm->14mm before it was welded to the c-stay.
I dont remember what axle spacing was originally requested, maybe it wasnt?

Geoff said it right and I'm pretty sure everyone here has been thinking the same thing. Some at the beginning offered up some suggestions without airing their thoughts.

With everyone knowing the obvious, the thing that I can't wrap my brain around is what Rolex was trying to accomplish by making this public? His front was to give this frame away to someone, sure. He could've easily given the frame to someone without taking it to the forum. I know some deserving kats in my area. I can't see him just trying to dis-credit Rick, it doesn't add up, no one would buy into that. It can't be the money either cuz he knows damn well he ain't getting it, mosly knowing that he caused this problem. It has to be the public pity he thinks he deserves.

I know it's in bad taste to reply to this thread but damn if you're gonna put this crap on the boards and think no one is gonna do it.

AMEN BROTHA.

i have a question about this dwreck person. is he the one that rode the 10-74 frame? i think that rick mentioned something about him cracking a frame in an edited post. did he crack the 10-74? i was just wondering... if so, this guy must seriously ride the **** out of his bikes. he sounds interesting.

edit: i wrote this because i always wanted to hear a ride report months after the 10-74 was built up.

why is there always drama when somone builds a frame?

and these kinda threads crack me up, keep em comin.

i have a question about this dwreck person. is he the one that rode the 10-74 frame? i think that rick mentioned something about him cracking a frame in an edited post. .....to my understanding, the 10-74 was a replacement frame for the one he cracked beforehand. another reason why rick chose to give the frame to him...

i have a question about this dwreck person. is he the one that rode the 10-74 frame? i think that rick mentioned something about him cracking a frame in an edited post. did he crack the 10-74? i was just wondering... if so, this guy must seriously ride the **** out of his bikes. he sounds interesting.

edit: i wrote this because i always wanted to hear a ride report months after the 10-74 was built up.

No, Dereck did not crack the 10-74. He is shredding on it hardcore out in Utah right now. I actually had a chance to ride the 10-74 as well... it's a rad bike.

Here is an update and pics from D...

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181139

No, Dereck did not crack the 10-74. He is shredding on it hardcore out in Utah right now. I actually had a chance to ride the 10-74 as well... it's a rad bike.

Here is an update and pics from D...

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181139

thanks for the link cru. hmm, now i want to see this trials bike one day... without a flamefest.

wow...i should stop by more often


so someone cross threaded one of ricks bikes, and he blamed rick for it.

now he is giving away the frame?