I've been considering getting a Maverick fork for my 5 Spot. I've been trying to get opinions from people that have used both the Maverick fork and an 03Z1FR. I really want to drop the additional 2 pounds and get more travel by switching to the Maverick, but I don't want to sacrifice ride quality. I'm hoping that the Maverick will be as plush and stiff as the Z1FR. Pete wrote that he would check with one of his friends that has used both.

I'm also curious about the posts regarding a double crown fork potentially damaging the bike frame during a crash. I stopped by Family Cycling center the other day and they had an ML-7 with a Maverick fork....and 2 Hecklers with Maverick forks.

I mentioned the potential for frame damage and the LBS employee laughed. He showed me a Heckler that had crashed with the Maverick fork. The frame didn't have a mark, but the fork did. It had a small ding where the fork would contact the frame in a crash. Personally, this "issue" is not a concern of mine.

I'm hoping that the Maverick will be as plush and stiff as the Z1FR. Pete wrote that he would check with one of his friends that has used both.
He hyperextended his knee and has missed a few rides. I should ride with him the weekend after this one.

I've been considering getting a Maverick fork for my 5 Spot. I've been trying to get opinions from people that have used both the Maverick fork and an 03Z1FR. I really want to drop the additional 2 pounds and get more travel by switching to the Maverick, but I don't want to sacrifice ride quality. I'm hoping that the Maverick will be as plush and stiff as the Z1FR...

Same here.
And in the real of asking too much...how it migh compare to the QR20? I figure the Mav won't be less stiff, but I'm still curious how it compares. But I agree, the damping comparison will be the big factor for me as well.

Same here.
And in the real of asking too much...how it migh compare to the QR20? I figure the Mav won't be less stiff, but I'm still curious how it compares. But I agree, the damping comparison will be the big factor for me as well.

Based on feedback in this forum, the Maverick should be plenty stiff. Someone, probably Pete, mentioned that they thought that it was stiffer than the Vanilla. My big concern is the fact that it's an air fork.

After years of riding ONLY air forks and air shocks, I've become a coil convert. I just love the compliance of the coils over the air springs.

One of the guys at Family Cycling Center told me that the Maverick ramped up pretty quickly. He didn't have ride time on the Z1FR (or QR20) , so he couldn't make a comparison.

Based on feedback in this forum ...they thought that it was stiffer than the Vanilla.
Yep I got that. Unfortunately I have never been on a Vanilla. I only have the QR20 to compare. This fork has saved my hide countless times, I really need the stiffness and damping to take up the slack when I get in over my head..which lately is 2 or 3 times a ride.


My big concern is the fact that it's an air fork.
After years of riding ONLY air forks and air shocks, I've become a coil convert. I just love the compliance of the coils over the air springs.

I'm so spoiled. It would be great to loose 2-3lbs over the QR20 but it's so smooth, plush, and consistent. I'm hoping I don't have to give that up. I have to stop by the shop near me that carries it.

Cheers!

I have a '03 Z1FR QR20, which replaced a Fox Vanilla RLC. The Z1 is a lot stiffer than the Fox, especially in fore-aft stiffness. And the damping is superior as well. Not necessarily on the small bumps - the Fox is initially very plush - but on the bigger stuff. The Z1 just has a way of making it disappear. The only drawback is that it's heavier. It's also a taller fork, slackening the head angle slightly, but I don't consider this to be a disadvantage.

I am also interested in hearing about how a Z1 compares to the ML-7. I expect that the Mav would be even stiffer, and the damping qualities very good as well, given that it is an inverted fork so it has less unsprung weight.



I've been considering getting a Maverick fork for my 5 Spot. I've been trying to get opinions from people that have used both the Maverick fork and an 03Z1FR. I really want to drop the additional 2 pounds and get more travel by switching to the Maverick, but I don't want to sacrifice ride quality. I'm hoping that the Maverick will be as plush and stiff as the Z1FR. Pete wrote that he would check with one of his friends that has used both.

I'm also curious about the posts regarding a double crown fork potentially damaging the bike frame during a crash. I stopped by Family Cycling center the other day and they had an ML-7 with a Maverick fork....and 2 Hecklers with Maverick forks.

I mentioned the potential for frame damage and the LBS employee laughed. He showed me a Heckler that had crashed with the Maverick fork. The frame didn't have a mark, but the fork did. It had a small ding where the fork would contact the frame in a crash. Personally, this "issue" is not a concern of mine.

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Heckler that had crashed with the Maverick fork. The frame didn't have a mark, but the fork did. It had a small ding where the fork would contact the frame in a crash.[QUOTE]

I'm wondering if considering the weight of the fork and the amount of material in it, that the tubing must be thin. I can see Maverick doing a reversed warranty, don't use it on too heavy duty of a frame or it might cause the fork to fail!

I've been considering getting a Maverick fork for my 5 Spot. I've been trying to get opinions from people that have used both the Maverick fork and an 03Z1FR. I really want to drop the additional 2 pounds and get more travel by switching to the Maverick, but I don't want to sacrifice ride quality. I'm hoping that the Maverick will be as plush and stiff as the Z1FR. Pete wrote that he would check with one of his friends that has used both.

I'm also curious about the posts regarding a double crown fork potentially damaging the bike frame during a crash. I stopped by Family Cycling center the other day and they had an ML-7 with a Maverick fork....and 2 Hecklers with Maverick forks.

I mentioned the potential for frame damage and the LBS employee laughed. He showed me a Heckler that had crashed with the Maverick fork. The frame didn't have a mark, but the fork did. It had a small ding where the fork would contact the frame in a crash. Personally, this "issue" is not a concern of mine.

WarrGuru...Curious, did the Maverick fork that your friend crashed have the rubber bumpers installed on the backside of each leg? We provide those with each fork, but it is up to the shop/customer to actually install them.

Regards,

Steven

WarrGuru...Curious, did the Maverick fork that your friend crashed have the rubber bumpers installed on the backside of each leg? We provide those with each fork, but it is up to the shop/customer to actually install them.

Regards,

Steven


I didn't see any bumpers. I may have overlooked them, but I don't remember seeing bumpers.

Also, I have no idea who crashed the bike. The fork in question was installed on a rental Heckler at the LBS. You would think that the LBS would protect their forks and frames by installing the bumpers.

I didn't see any bumpers. I may have overlooked them, but I don't remember seeing bumpers.

Also, I have no idea who crashed the bike. The fork in question was installed on a rental Heckler at the LBS. You would think that the LBS would protect their forks and frames by installing the bumpers.

Thanks for the reply. Had the bumpers been installed, the damage to the fork uppers may have been avoided. If you want to pass along the name of the shop, I'll contact them and supply them with new bumpers. Thanks again.

Maverick American,

What can you tell us about Chris King making a hub?

Maverick American,

What can you tell us about Chris King making a hub?

Chris King is making a 24mm Front hub that will work with our fork. They anticipate shipping to Dealers in June. By fall, they anticipate having a conversion kit available for customers who own a 20mm Chris King Front Hub. Which means you won't have to scrap your King 20mm front wheel when you buy our fork.

The King Hub weighs 256grams and will retail for around $178-190. That is all the info I have at the moment. I hope that helps.

Steven

Maverick American,

I read some where ( I think a UK mag) that the Maverick hub is made by another hub maker. Is this true? The reason I ask is that I am trying to budget out a new bike build and am trying to determine if its worth waiting for the King 24mm hub as I will be running a King rear.

Thanks

Thanks for the reply. Had the bumpers been installed, the damage to the fork uppers may have been avoided. If you want to pass along the name of the shop, I'll contact them and supply them with new bumpers. Thanks again.

I'm sure that you're right. The ding was small and I think that there would be no ding if a bumper had been installed.

btw....The name of the shop is:

Family Cycling Center
41st Avenue
Capitola, California

Maverick American,

I read some where ( I think a UK mag) that the Maverick hub is made by another hub maker. Is this true? The reason I ask is that I am trying to budget out a new bike build and am trying to determine if its worth waiting for the King 24mm hub as I will be running a King rear.

Thanks

Our hubs are produced by Formula.

Our hubs are produced by Formula.

Just wanted to say that I think your (company's) responses are the best and most honest that I've seen on MTBR.

In January I was trying to decide between an ML7 and a 5-Spot and ended up with the 5-Spot with a Talas RL, which I certainly don't regret but may well have got your fork if it wasn't for the warrenty and height issues. But the way that your company seems to pay attention to consumers and questions is excellent - I'll seriously tempted when your single crown fork comes out this autumn.

Keep up the excellent work...

Our hubs are produced by Formula.

Thanks for the reply. :)

The King Hub weighs 256grams and will retail for around $178-190. That is all the info I have at the moment. I hope that helps.

Thanks Steven. For all of you King fans here's the word straight from the horses mouth, http://chrisking.com/hubs/hbs_24mm.html.