King Cycle Group has just informed me that they will be producing a 24mm hub for use on the Maverick Fork. The hub will not be available until June, but they will take pre-orders. Estimated retail will be $178-190. As soon as I have pictures available, I'll post them.

Regards,

Steven Elmes, Marketing Guy
Maverick American

King Cycle Group has just informed me that they will be producing a 24mm hub for use on the Maverick Fork. The hub will not be available until June, but they will take pre-orders. Estimated retail will be $178-190. As soon as I have pictures available, I'll post them.

Regards,

Steven Elmes, Marketing Guy
Maverick American

I think that's great. Well, maybe not. I had been reasoning that I would not want a Maverick fork 'cause I couldn't use a King hub with it. Now that excuse has been taken away. Do you have any idea if King can mod existing hubs to 24mm? I know I can get new a new shell for my ISO to accept 20mm. Now if you'd only lower the price a bit.

Awww, I'm gonn a stick with the Maverick front hub. I don't think a King would "match" my White rear hub as well... :D

Hey, does that come in purple?

Hey, does that come in purple?

Maybe, if you ask really nice...

Nice! That's great news. Not that there's anything wrong with the Maverick hub, but I'm a major Chris King fanatic. Hmm, might have to put off installing a Maverick until the King hubs are out.
Larry Mettler
http://www.mtnhighcyclery.com

Did the 24mm hub become an industry standard? The reason I ask is that this is the line Chris King gives when asked about future products (they only make a product when a standard is agreed upon). This is what they told me when I asked if they had plans to make a 150mm rear hub.

I like Chris King products a lot but cannot understand their priorities. They still don't make the tool for bearing removal for the 20mm hub which has been out for a while now. Lets not even talk about the CK bottom bracket.

Hopefully this is a sign that they are going to be bringing more products to market.

I like Chris King products a lot but cannot understand their priorities. They still don't make the tool for bearing removal for the 20mm hub which has been out for a while now. Lets not even talk about the CK bottom bracket.

Hopefully this is a sign that they are going to be bringing more products to market.


I think CK should get kudos for not releasing their bottom bracket. From what I've heard and read between the lines they couldn't get it done with the quality we've all come to expect. I'd much rather them scrap the project than release a sub par product just to "get more products to market." Sounds like ISIS is crap anyway from all the complaints on the race face BBs.

I too understand why King didn't bring the ISIS BB to market.
No matter what they could have done, it would have failed like all the other ISIS BB's.

They left their reputation intact.

I only referenced the BB because of the perpetual "we're working on it," which is still the company line by the way.

My point is that they are really slow to bring out new products. Hopefully, the Maverick hub is an indication that they are going to be offering more products in the future.

I only referenced the BB because of the perpetual "we're working on it," which is still the company line by the way.

My point is that they are really slow to bring out new products. Hopefully, the Maverick hub is an indication that they are going to be offering more products in the future.

I have no inside scoop, but I think that since the "new" two piece crank designs with outboard bearings are catching on that CK will probably release bearings for those(especially Race Face's version). I have also seen a pic or two of an ISIS BB that has outboard bearings as well. Maybe CK will pursue that option. Who knows. I agree that there's no sense in sending out a product that they weren't happy with just to get sales.

Awww, I'm gonn a stick with the Maverick front hub. I don't think a King would "match" my White rear hub as well... :D

Hey, does that come in purple?
A couple questions for you EBasil. And anyone else, for that matter.
Why aren't my posts to the yahoo group posting. I'm on Roadrunner.
And, do you have the Maverick fork? If so, I'd like to test it out.
I'm planning on riding Big Laguna Sat morning. On Sunday I usually just ride around UC.
Miramar Mesa, through the euc. grove atUCSD and to TP and back.
Thanks
Red Beard :cool:

Race face's version of the outboard bearing BB? You mean they are different?

The 04 RF catalogue I saw says the Deus will fit for XT/XTR and the ??? will fit the Saint.

Kinda figured they were the same size as standard...

Race face's version of the outboard bearing BB? You mean they are different?

The 04 RF catalogue I saw says the Deus will fit for XT/XTR and the ??? will fit the Saint.

Kinda figured they were the same size as standard...

Didn't know that there was a standard for the outboard bearings. Especially since Shimano doesn't play nice with other manufacturers ie they refused the ISIS standard, which was a good decision BTW. I guess that's good news that the RF bearings will work with Shimano's offerings as I understand the XTR bearings have some issues.

A couple questions for you EBasil. And anyone else, for that matter.
Why aren't my posts to the yahoo group posting. I'm on Roadrunner.

Because Yahoo is a pain the ass. Are you "joined" into the Yahoo Group you're trying to post to (ie MTC)? If you are, then you just have to carefully look at the Address you sent posts to, or if you're on the site--make sure when you hit reply that the accursed Yahoo lists the GROUP as the recipient of the message, instead of the author of the message you're relpying to.

And, do you have the Maverick fork? If so, I'd like to test it out.
Well, I have one, a hub, and a frameset on order. The word is that Maverick doesn't get the shipment of forks in from Huffy (or was that Motiv?) for a MONTH, so you'll have to wait to test ride. In the meantime, the frame will hang on the wall at Rose Canyon Cycles on Santa Fe.

I'm planning on riding Big Laguna Sat morning. On Sunday I usually just ride around UC. Miramar Mesa, through the euc. grove atUCSD and to TP and back. Thanks
Red Beard :cool:

I think I'm headed to PQ for some trail maintenance Saturday morning. I see that SDMBA has an urgent call out for trail maintenance up near the BLT, too: check out Marks' post on RideMonkey, So Cal section!

...I think that since the "new" two piece crank designs with outboard bearings are catching on that CK will probably release bearings for those(especially Race Face's version). .

The thing is, if one has the XT or XTR cranks, a CK bearing set would just be candy and not much of a performance upgrade. The bearings in the Shimano outboard cups are the same as the non-drive side bearings in my SweetWings, and top-line, all stainless, Japanese bearings are $15 or less each in that size. Open them up, add a line of teflon grease and they'll go great for years...in my experience. King uses great bearings, but there's a point of diminishing return.

Ah, they'll probably do it anyway.

Nice! That's great news. Not that there's anything wrong with the Maverick hub, but I'm a major Chris King fanatic. Hmm, might have to put off installing a Maverick until the King hubs are out.
Larry Mettler
http://www.mtnhighcyclery.com
me too! I kept waffling on how long to wait...now I know! Wonder once they are in production, how long the hubs will take?

The thing is, if one has the XT or XTR cranks, a CK bearing set would just be candy and not much of a performance upgrade. The bearings in the Shimano outboard cups are the same as the non-drive side bearings in my SweetWings, and top-line, all stainless, Japanese bearings are $15 or less each in that size. Open them up, add a line of teflon grease and they'll go great for years...in my experience. King uses great bearings, but there's a point of diminishing return.

Ah, they'll probably do it anyway.

Have you used the new XTR cranks? I hardly ride in rain/snow/mud but already ruined a bearing last year. No issue with the actual bearings, but the plastic sleeve they're retained in. It cracked on the left bearing and made it about 50% harder to spin. The only good thing is they have a 3 year warranty, and I had an extra set of cranks/bb. I'll definatly upgrade to CK if/when they're available.

As for CK supporting Maverick hub, I called them when I bought my Maverick frame & fork last Oct. They said they're not supporting it yet, based on market demand. So I bugged them a lot, and no doubt others have. I think it's a sign that the Maverick Fork will be big! They're a conservative company, we all know, and won't do something to sell a couple hundred hubs. I'm sure the tooling for that is quite expensive, unless they can use the existing 20mm hubshell.

King informed me that customers who already own a King 20mm Front Hub will be able to purchase a retro-fit kit for the Chris King 24mm axle. They anticipate having kits available in the fall.

Regards,

Steven Elmes, Marketing Guy
Maverick American

So, has anyone actually tested one of these hubs on a fork? Is it great or other... I currently have an SC32 and before I get a new set of wheels I'd like to know if the king is worth looking in to.

Thanks