Here are the parts specs and weights. Everything was individually weighed before installing. I copied and pasted the bellow sheet from Excel, so it may be a little off spaced. I will post pics later tonight.


Part Brand Weight

Bottom Bracket: Integrated W/Crankset 0
Brake Levers: Included W/Brakes 0
Rear Brakes: Magura Marta SL 342
Front Brakes: Magura Marta SL 330
Cables: None 0
Cog: Boone 20
Chain: Wippermann Stainless 290
Crankset: Truvativ Stylo SS 2 Piece w/ Boone Ti Ring 790
Fork: Spicer Ti 540
Frame: Niner One 9 1497
Grips: Titec Pork Rinds 35
Handlebar: Titec Pluto Carbon 160
Headset: Chris King 126
Headset Spacer: Carbon 5
Pedals: Crank Bro. Candy Ti 252
Quick Releases: Control Tech Ti 40
Seat Binder: Salsa Lip Loc 34
Seat: Sella Italia SLR 140
Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece 180
Stem: Thomson X4 173
Tire (Front) Bontrager ACX 640
Tire (Rear): Maxxis Ignitor 600
2 Tubes: Specialized Turbo 240
Wheelset (Front): American Classic SS 29er 760
Wheelset (Rear): American Classic SS 29er 840


TOTALS
Grams: 8034
Pounds: 17.71193814

Give us the pic of the whole thing!

holy crap! That's lighter than my road bike.

I'd like to see a pic of the whole thing too. Also, I like to see a pic with that weight on a hanging digital scale.

for every minute you spend figuring out how to drop 10 more grams,
i will spend a minute riding and probably come out ahead of the game.

Here are the parts specs and weights. Everything was individually weighed before installing. I copied and pasted the bellow sheet from Excel, so it may be a little off spaced. I will post pics later tonight.
...

What size frame?

You should add a price column to that spread sheet, that way I wouldn't feel so bad ;)

Here are the parts specs and weights. Everything was individually weighed before installing. I copied and pasted the bellow sheet from Excel, so it may be a little off spaced. I will post pics later tonight.


Part Brand Weight

Bottom Bracket: Integrated W/Crankset 0
Brake Levers: Included W/Brakes 0
Rear Brakes: Magura Marta SL 342
Front Brakes: Magura Marta SL 330
Cables: None 0
Cog: Boone 20
Chain: Wippermann Stainless 290
Crankset: Truvativ Stylo SS 2 Piece w/ Boone Ti Ring 790
Fork: Spicer Ti 540
Frame: Niner One 9 1497
Grips: Titec Pork Rinds 35
Handlebar: Titec Pluto Carbon 160
Headset: Chris King 126
Headset Spacer: Carbon 5
Pedals: Crank Bro. Candy Ti 252
Quick Releases: Control Tech Ti 40
Seat Binder: Salsa Lip Loc 34
Seat: Sella Italia SLR 140
Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece 180
Stem: Thomson X4 173
Tire (Front) Bontrager ACX 640
Tire (Rear): Maxxis Ignitor 600
2 Tubes: Specialized Turbo 240
Wheelset (Front): American Classic SS 29er 760
Wheelset (Rear): American Classic SS 29er 840


TOTALS
Grams: 8034
Pounds: 17.71193814


Nice. With a bit of room to come down even. Looks very solid as is.

for every minute you spend figuring out how to drop 10 more grams,
i will spend a minute riding and probably come out ahead of the game.
I could figure out how to drop 10g off that bike while riding. Heck, in 3 seconds I figured that a lighter bolt-on seat collar would save over 10g. There is nothing wrong with a light bike. It seems to be a good quality build except the ti bolt-on skewers with disc hubs. Everything else on that bike is great in my opinion. King headset, Thomson post and stem, Stylo cranks; all quality parts.

Give us the pic of the whole thing!

Ditto!

So how much do YOU weigh?

Nice.
But is the Masterpiece post long enough? A 350mm post and the low profile saddle should not let me get the extension I need.

Re: The Thomson parts - Did you cut down the Masterpiece post? Thomson claims that the 31.6 x 350 weighs 193g.

Also, if you wanted to drop at least 20g you could go with an X2. An Oval Concepts stem with the carbon face plate and Ti bolt upgrade would drop you down to just a bit over 100g. Even so, I'd choose the X4 for a SS.

yawn
isn't there a weight weenie forum somewhere

yawn
isn't there a weight weenie forum somewhere

couldn't your catchy little tag line apply to bikes?

"No fat chicks" = "No fat BIKES" :D

LP (riding a 29.2lb monkey)

Super cool and very inspiring (uh oh!). :D

I know that you are able to fit on a small frame, so that helps just a tad.
The scary thing is that there are still places to lose weight without building a fragile bike. You could go even lighter (subjective choices, of course) for about the same $$ and still have a race day trail bike. Okay, back to work so I can afford my next project. :D

OGG

One more place to lose some weight:

http://homepage.mac.com/drt/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-02-26%2014.28.51%20-0800/IMG_6447.JPG

Ok everyone I have the pics and some answers to questions. When I set out to build this bike I wanted it to be a light race bike but I also wanted it to be made of good sturdy parts. The Thomson post is uncut and is just below the max line, if I were any taller I would be sol. I could easily make the bike lighter, but these are the parts I am confident ridding. The frame is a small and has geometry similar to the Rig but feels a tad bit more compact and lower to the ground. It just feels like it wants to be raced. I also only weigh about 145.

I did up the spread sheet weighing the parts individually before I put them on the bike, which is were I came up with the 17.71 pounds. In order to weigh the bike as a whole I had to put a board on the scale. The board weighed 20 lbs and then I placed the bike on the board which came to 37.85. If you subtract the two you get 17.85 pound, which is damn close to the projected build weight. I used a Salsa Ti skewer in the back because the Control Tech was too short, which probably would account for the difference in the two weights. My scale has been certified and is used for Collegiate track meets to weigh the implements, so it is verified.

I will be happy to answer any more questions that people have.

Tons of pics.

There's more.

And my favorite for last.

Keep em' coming

And my favorite for last.

Are you racing your new ride at Uncle Sammy's this weekend in Washington, IA? I'd love to see your bike close up. I'll be there on my Sugar 293 with a good 10 pounds on your Niner (not to mention a good 50 pounds on my body over your weight). That means I'm pushing 60 more pounds off the starting line on the first pedal crank.

Good thing I've got gears. :D

BB

Amazing build. I hope to go that light as well one day, but starting off with a heavier frame and fork (I woouldn't dare ride a 540g fork with my height and heft), I'll have to go more extreme with other parts to make up for that.
Even more amazing is the room for further lightening you left, while coming to such a low total. That thing must be a trail rocket!

Glad you already have your offspring. With that seat tilt, I'd have to give that up pernanently :-) That, or I'd have to use the bike for 4-cross.

Now go ride it!

J

Oh heck yeah, that is one nice ride.

BTW, where can I find the Boone website for chainrings? Not COGS (that is what I always find), but for chainrings. I need to get one of those. My Shitmano 32t ring is already wearing out after only about a dozen rides.

Can't wait for the ride report!!
OGG

Oh heck yeah, that is one nice ride.

BTW, where can I find the Boone website for chainrings? Not COGS (that is what I always find), but for chainrings. I need to get one of those. My Shitmano 32t ring is already wearing out after only about a dozen rides.

Can't wait for the ride report!!
OGG


Here is the site, click on ordering when you get there. In the comments box tell them you want a Heavy duty SS ring and they will get back to you.

http://www.boonerings.com/cr/cr.html

Are you racing your new ride at Uncle Sammy's this weekend in Washington, IA? I'd love to see your bike close up. I'll be there on my Sugar 293 with a good 10 pounds on your Niner (not to mention a good 50 pounds on my body over your weight). That means I'm pushing 60 more pounds off the starting line on the first pedal crank.

Good thing I've got gears. :D

BB

My Wife had our first child on Friday, so I won't be able to venture too far away for at least a couple of weeks.

Oh heck yeah, that is one nice ride.

BTW, where can I find the Boone website for chainrings? Not COGS (that is what I always find), but for chainrings. I need to get one of those. My Shitmano 32t ring is already wearing out after only about a dozen rides.

Can't wait for the ride report!!
OGG

I've never ordered from them but this seems to be the page.

http://www.booneti.com/cr/orderformchainring.html

Looks like you select the bolt circle, # teeth and it gives you a price. I'll be getting my cog(s) and ring once I dial in gearing choice.

Thanks for all the detailed pics, I went with the green also. Is it my current state of mind or is it more of a silver/steel blue/green than just green. I think I would call the color steel blue, just sounds nice! Hard to tell on line.

So how much do YOU weigh?

Why? Is there anything flimsy on it for the average rider? Maybe for someone 250 plus there are some better choices, but for most guys I would say these parts are just fine.

The only thing unproven I guess is the frame. I have seen Scandium frames (for a 26" bike) weighing 3/4 of a pound less than the Niner for whatever thats worth...

The fork is quite light as well and as far as I know theyve been holding up??

yawn
isn't there a weight weenie forum somewhere

Slow day at the shop, Dan?

I've never ordered from them but this seems to be the page.

http://www.booneti.com/cr/orderformchainring.html

Looks like you select the bolt circle, # teeth and it gives you a price. I'll be getting my cog(s) and ring once I dial in gearing choice.

Thanks for all the detailed pics, I went with the green also. Is it my current state of mind or is it more of a silver/steel blue/green than just green. I think I would call the color steel blue, just sounds nice! Hard to tell on line.
thanks! That is exactly what I was looking for.
FWIW, I agree about the color, but I really like it.

just getting tired of the online spank-fest threads.
if you don't like it don't read it yawn yawn yawn.

You should be building bikes and fixing walmart specials, not playing online. You know better than that. We missed you at the race last weekend, it was a full helping of pain, suffering, and dehydration.

Wow, that is crazy light! Nice build. I'd like to hear how it rides versus the Rig. I have a Rig but am contemplating getting a Niner instead.

Isn't it funny that you came up with a sweet build, shared it online, and a couple of guys had to be wet blankets about it? I think you did a nice job.

Wow, that is crazy light! Nice build. I'd like to hear how it rides versus the Rig. I have a Rig but am contemplating getting a Niner instead.

Isn't it funny that you came up with a sweet build, shared it online, and a couple of guys had to be wet blankets about it? I think you did a nice job.
I certainly hope my initial remarks didn't come across as critical- they were meant to be complimentary. And I thought it was cool that it is a bike capable of being ridden every day under all circumstances; a real bike!
Of course, my brain gets spinning about how to make it even lighter without detracting from it's durability, but hey... I can dream, can't I?! :D

OGG

I certainly hope my initial remarks didn't come across as critical- they were meant to be complimentary. And I thought it was cool that it is a bike capable of being ridden every day under all circumstances; a real bike!
Of course, my brain gets spinning about how to make it even lighter without detracting from it's durability, but hey... I can dream, can't I?! :D

OGG
No, I wasn't referring to your post. There were a couple of sour grapes in the bunch elsewhere.

You are the most awesomely ridiculous bike whore ever. I love your builds more than a fat kid loves candy. I'd almost sell my firstborn for one of your bikes. Way to go. Now only if I had the money for the kind of sweet crap you put on them. That bikes' gotta be in the $3000 range. Good goin...I hope it helps you win. And in style too. Are you in the des moines area? They still gonna do that 24hr. race in Boone this year? My buddy and i were thinkin' of doin it as a 2 man. You gonna be there?

One more place to lose some weight:

http://homepage.mac.com/drt/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-02-26%2014.28.51%20-0800/IMG_6447.JPG

Thats not bad. Is that with the bearings? Are those XTs? XTRs? Sorry, not familiar with the new Shimano stuff.

on the Turner forum are kindred spirits.

That is sick light. Very impressive build.

wow....that's a really sweet ride...a perfect build.

two quick, important Qs for ya strongone...what is the bb height???

can you meausre what the hieght is from the ground to the center of your crankset, please.

also, what type of hydro guids does it have? pass thru, or zip tie???

oh, and HUGE congrats on the baby...where is my cuban???

cheers!

doube post.

Here are the parts specs and weights. Everything was individually weighed before installing. I copied and pasted the bellow sheet from Excel, so it may be a little off spaced. I will post pics later tonight.


Part Brand Weight

Bottom Bracket: Integrated W/Crankset 0
Brake Levers: Included W/Brakes 0
Rear Brakes: Magura Marta SL 342
Front Brakes: Magura Marta SL 330
Cables: None 0
Cog: Boone 20
Chain: Wippermann Stainless 290
Crankset: Truvativ Stylo SS 2 Piece w/ Boone Ti Ring 790
Fork: Spicer Ti 540
Frame: Niner One 9 1497
Grips: Titec Pork Rinds 35
Handlebar: Titec Pluto Carbon 160
Headset: Chris King 126
Headset Spacer: Carbon 5
Pedals: Crank Bro. Candy Ti 252
Quick Releases: Control Tech Ti 40
Seat Binder: Salsa Lip Loc 34
Seat: Sella Italia SLR 140
Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece 180
Stem: Thomson X4 173
Tire (Front) Bontrager ACX 640
Tire (Rear): Maxxis Ignitor 600
2 Tubes: Specialized Turbo 240
Wheelset (Front): American Classic SS 29er 760
Wheelset (Rear): American Classic SS 29er 840


TOTALS
Grams: 8034
Pounds: 17.71193814
Hi congratulations on your daughter and your 29er. I'm the person that bought your old Dean frame. It's a beaut! I'm needing to have wheels built for it and since I can't afford Kings I've been looking at the American Classics What do you think of them? How much did the Dean weigh when you had it built up? My husband thinks I'm a weight weinie but I should have him check out some of the postings on this site! Anyhow your 29er rocks I can't wait to get that Dean built up!

You are the most awesomely ridiculous bike whore ever. I love your builds more than a fat kid loves candy. I'd almost sell my firstborn for one of your bikes. Way to go. Now only if I had the money for the kind of sweet crap you put on them. That bikes' gotta be in the $3000 range. Good goin...I hope it helps you win. And in style too. Are you in the des moines area? They still gonna do that 24hr. race in Boone this year? My buddy and i were thinkin' of doin it as a 2 man. You gonna be there?


You are so kind, what can I say. I live in Decorah and I am planning on riding at the 24 hour race in Boone, with a team. I think it is on the 4th on September.

Maybe I 'll see you there.

Wow, that is crazy light! Nice build. I'd like to hear how it rides versus the Rig. I have a Rig but am contemplating getting a Niner instead.

Isn't it funny that you came up with a sweet build, shared it online, and a couple of guys had to be wet blankets about it? I think you did a nice job.


I will give a Fair comparision between the Rig and the Niner after I get a few more rides on it. Did I mention how fast the Niner is..oops.

wow....that's a really sweet ride...a perfect build.

two quick, important Qs for ya strongone...what is the bb height???

can you meausre what the hieght is from the ground to the center of your crankset, please.

also, what type of hydro guids does it have? pass thru, or zip tie???

oh, and HUGE congrats on the baby...where is my cuban???

cheers!


The bb height is 11.5" to the center of my crank bolt, in the ebb position shown in the picture, which is clost to 6 O' clock. The line guides are something I have never seen before and the line just snaps into them and believe it or not they actually stay and are so simple.

Thanks for the congrats, but I am all out of Cubans.

Hi congratulations on your daughter and your 29er. I'm the person that bought your old Dean frame. It's a beaut! I'm needing to have wheels built for it and since I can't afford Kings I've been looking at the American Classics What do you think of them? How much did the Dean weigh when you had it built up? My husband thinks I'm a weight weinie but I should have him check out some of the postings on this site! Anyhow your 29er rocks I can't wait to get that Dean built up!

Hey, I hope you like the frame it is a great frame. It's only fault is that it doesn't accept 29ers. I had the Dean built up to 19 pounds at its lightest, but it could go a lot lighter. Check out the DT Swiss hubs and rims, they are light, engage pretty fast and are cheaper than the Kings. The AC make a great race wheel, but I will not use them for everyday ridding, but time will tell, maybe they can handle the abuse.

DAMN!!! That thing is Bad A$$$$!!!! Prettiest 29er I've seen yet!!!

Hey, I hope you like the frame it is a great frame. It's only fault is that it doesn't accept 29ers. I had the Dean built up to 19 pounds at its lightest, but it could go a lot lighter. Check out the DT Swiss hubs and rims, they are light, engage pretty fast and are cheaper than the Kings. The AC make a great race wheel, but I will not use them for everyday ridding, but time will tell, maybe they can handle the abuse. I'm assuming your refering to the dt 240's hubs but wich rims? I'm thinking of the mavic 317's. the dt's are nice and lighter than the Kings but the Am classics are lighter still. I only weigh 125 and wonder if they'd work for everyday.N. Az is pretty rough terrain but with that sweet frame I'm hoping to just float everything! Good luck in the 24 hr race I just got 5th overall solo riders in my last race! not many riding ss so no seperate catagory either. thanks for your info. keri

tough enough for a heavier guy? Like 180-190? Just curious. I'd rather have it than a KM but I don't want to snap it either. I use discs.

SWEET RIDE!

How does that scandium ride?

I'm assuming your refering to the dt 240's hubs but wich rims? I'm thinking of the mavic 317's... keri
317s (XC717 Disc) are 26" rims only. No 700C/29" version.

Boy, that is a fine looking machine.

DAMN!!! That thing is Bad A$$$$!!!! Prettiest 29er I've seen yet!!!

Thank you.

I'm assuming your refering to the dt 240's hubs but wich rims? I'm thinking of the mavic 317's. the dt's are nice and lighter than the Kings but the Am classics are lighter still. I only weigh 125 and wonder if they'd work for everyday.N. Az is pretty rough terrain but with that sweet frame I'm hoping to just float everything! Good luck in the 24 hr race I just got 5th overall solo riders in my last race! not many riding ss so no seperate catagory either. thanks for your info. keri

Yes that is the right hub. The 317 rim should work great for your size. The AC wheels would probably work well for you, but will be a bit more pricey.

tough enough for a heavier guy? Like 180-190? Just curious. I'd rather have it than a KM but I don't want to snap it either. I use discs.

I feel that the ti fork is perfect for my size, 145 lbs. It is very plush and has a perfect amount of stiffness, but if I were much bigger, I would probably not feel comfortable ridding it. Who knows, maybe it would feel similar for a heavier rider.

SWEET RIDE!

How does that scandium ride?

I will try and post a full ride report in the next day or two, after I get a couple more rides on it. I can say that this bike is amazingly fast and has super quick steering.

you should get that thing on light-bikes.com

Oh ..lovely.. :)

Great build with all those light parts.

Looking forward to hearing your ride report on this bike.

I almost have all the parts for mine ready to go now, just waiting on the frame and stuff from Chris.

R.

Well I have ridden the Niner hard for the past 3 or 4 days, so I can give a report on some of my findings. I will compare to the Rig, for those of you that have one. The Niner has a very stiff rear triangle, much stiffer than that of the GF Rig. When I stand up to mash through a hill, I can’t feel any frame movement at all. I can get the rear tire on my Rig to almost hit the stays. When you put force on the Niner’s pedals, it moves. The Niner is very easy to accelerate, which could be a contribution of the low weight. Once rolling I can easily notice the steering is much quicker than that of the Rig. The Niner handles tight twisty trails and switchbacks better than any bike I have ever ridden and yes that includes all 26” bikes. The Rig has noticeably slower handling characteristics. The Niner’s ride is very smooth on rough terrain, which has a lot to due with the Spicer fork on the front, but the rear end is not jarring in the rough like one might expect. The scandium frame seems to provide a great blend between a smooth ride and the stiffness that a single speed frame needs.

I rode this bike yesterday with the fastest single speed rider in our 100 mile area and he noted that I was either getting in really good shape, or I must really like my new bike. I think it was both, but I really pushed him and that is what I wanted. The Niner is one fast bike that I would not change a thing about.

Well I have ridden the Niner hard for the past 3 or 4 days, so I can give a report on some of my findings. I will compare to the Rig, for those of you that have one. The Niner has a very stiff rear triangle, much stiffer than that of the GF Rig. When I stand up to mash through a hill, I can�t feel any frame movement at all. I can get the rear tire on my Rig to almost hit the stays. When you put force on the Niner�s pedals, it moves. The Niner is very easy to accelerate, which could be a contribution of the low weight. Once rolling I can easily notice the steering is much quicker than that of the Rig. The Niner handles tight twisty trails and switchbacks better than any bike I have ever ridden and yes that includes all 26� bikes. The Rig has noticeably slower handling characteristics. The Niner�s ride is very smooth on rough terrain, which has a lot to due with the Spicer fork on the front, but the rear end is not jarring in the rough like one might expect. The scandium frame seems to provide a great blend between a smooth ride and the stiffness that a single speed frame needs.

I rode this bike yesterday with the fastest single speed rider in our 100 mile area and he noted that I was either getting in really good shape, or I must really like my new bike. I think it was both, but I really pushed him and that is what I wanted. The Niner is one fast bike that I would not change a thing about.
Nice, very nice. I'm looking forward to more ride reports and pics.

You would need to bolt the saddle to the top tube to get anywhere near being able to ride my new frame!

I am just working out what the weight may be ;-)

All my bikes are under 18 lbs and I doubt this one will break that rule!!!

1 Week until I get the frame.

P::..

Thanks for the ride report. That is three good reports on the Niner I have read so far. :)

It's looking good... :)




R.

You would need to bolt the saddle to the top tube to get anywhere near being able to ride my new frame!

I am just working out what the weight may be ;-)

All my bikes are under 18 lbs and I doubt this one will break that rule!!!

1 Week until I get the frame.

P::..

Just worked it out as a singlespeed using most of the parts off my ultralight 26" bike.
16lbs WITH the maverick SC32!

P::..

Just worked it out as a singlespeed using most of the parts off my ultralight 26" bike.
16lbs WITH the maverick SC32!

P::..


Wow, that is crazy light. Do you have the data, I would love to see your parts list and weights?

The only thing that sucks about it...
Is that it is at your house and not mine! :D

I'll be happy to break it in for you while the knee is healing. You wouldn't want to rush into riding too soon, right? So, I'll give you my address to ship it to, and I'll even pay for the shipping.

I'm glad to see a flat bar on such an excellent build. I've yet to see the need for the bar du jour risers for cross country bikes.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

talk about pulling a thread out of the archives....