Just wondering.

I am very close to placing the order but it seems like I may be one of the few? It will be a leap of faith with a new company but Chris has been very good about answering my many questions and I believe they have a nice frame.

BUT, like anything bought sight-unseen (and un-riden) there is a bit of anxiety in my mind. Do I have any company out there?

Russ

I've been flirting with it myself. The build packages are priced pretty sweet.

I've been flirting with it myself. The build packages are priced pretty sweet.

I've been looking hard a niner but the pricing matrix is either strange or I'm missing something...the individual price for each add-on, (brakes, wheels, fork) actually goes up as you order more. i.e. juicies are +$150 w/frame ($899), a reba is +$250 w/frame ($975) but order both and it's +$550 ($1299). If that's the deal then cool but unless I'm mistaken the pricing structure seems counterintuitive to a buyer.

I've noticed that, too. The deal with the Juicy's is ridiculous. $150!!?? That's waaaaaayyy below cost. I don't understand what is going on there, either. If you want some juicy's really cheap, and are willing to shell out for a whole bike to get 'em, than Niner is your deal. Just don't buy the whole kit, or you end up paying more for everything. Strange.
-Sean

If it is 150 per brake the math makes sense. Should have a quantity listed to reduce confusion maybe?

I highly doubt its per wheel (I could be wrong). Otherwise, are they selling the wheels per wheel? A bike ain't much good with one brake and one wheel. Just my 2¢.
-Sean

This is how it works. They make their own frame, so they have a bit more room there to discount than on parts. To convince you to buy the frame, they offer parts along with it, and they reward you with a discount ON THE FRAME. With 1 part option (fork, wheels or brakes), it makes the eal hard to pass up. With a second part option, the deal is still great, but they already gave you a discount on the frame, they can't do it again, or with a full kit you'd get the frame for free. With simple alu frames you may come across such deals, but there the profit on the parts is paying for the frame, with Niner the frame is way expensive relative to the parts.
I'm not sure whether the pricing has been changed lately, there were a couple things I didn't understand, but it was all pretty minor.
Think in sequnce.

-You want the frame, and are willing to pay
-You'll need a fork anyway, look at what it costs, and of course you get it
-You'd like to consider the wheels, again look at what they'll cost, and decide.
-Same for the brakes, though perhaps at that point you may consider other brakes as well if you find deals on them, as Niner has pretty much given you all the possible discounts already, they can't give you the brakes for half price anymore.

They probably at one point had to choose between visibly discounting the frame when taking parts along with it, or what they end up doing. I'm sure it's the same in eventual price you pay, but this keeps the price for the frame a little bit more firm.

If you have the money, and even if you wouldn't like the Reba, you're nuts not to get it, you can easily sell it with a profit.

I was thrown off by the pricing too. Looks like the frame and wheels combo is the best bang for buck. You can get a Reba for $420 from Speedgoat at regular price but, add a couple other things to the cart and the Reba gets cheaper than Niner’s price (I don’t care for a Pop-lock). I don’t trust the Juicy brakes based on what I have seen of them so far. I am considering building one of these frames for my wife.

I put down my $1549 over a month ago. I don't want the brakes or the fork but I can sell them and make about $700 off them, thus the frame and wheelset will cost me about $849, $100 less than the frame and wheelset price. I think it is a pretty good deal no matter what parts package you go with. Only 3 weeks until expected delivery time.

I have read the couple of threads on our pricing. We are new and want to get our frames in the hands of riders. That is the reason for the aggressive pricing. The discounts are based on the total package cost. (Cloxxki has it right) But enjoy the pricing while it lasts......

I know many of you are just waiting for others to report after they buy a Niner. It's just like a group ride.

I like to think of it like this. You ride up to an unfamiliar steep drop with all your riding buddies. You all stop and peer over the ledge to what looks like certain carnage if you attempt it. Finally one guy goes and cleans it. You know what happens next you all go cuz somebody already showed you it could be done. Well we are rewarding the risk takers. The guy/gal not afraid to take the plunge into the unknown.

Say it with me, "O E M priiiiiiiicing...."

Original Equipment dude.

When Santa Cruz orders 10,000 Fox Talas' to sell with their Blur's, do you think they are paying retail? wholesale? Not.

I've noticed that, too. The deal with the Juicy's is ridiculous. $150!!?? That's waaaaaayyy below cost. I don't understand what is going on there, either. If you want some juicy's really cheap, and are willing to shell out for a whole bike to get 'em, than Niner is your deal. Just don't buy the whole kit, or you end up paying more for everything. Strange.
-Sean

Maybe a bit OT, but does anyone know when they are supposed to begin shipping? Also, I saw no mention of a warranty or how it would be honored on their site. That would be something I would like to know about before purchasing.

I'm in! the frame comes with a 5 year warranty - target date is June 15.

I still have worries about a 3.3lb Scandium frame holding up to my 6' 4", 220lb body. It's one of the main reasons that I'm looking at going custom instead.

I want gears. Are they selling geared frames yet?

I still have worries about a 3.3lb Scandium frame holding up to my 6' 4", 220lb body. It's one of the main reasons that I'm looking at going custom instead.

I am 6'2" and 240 but I just went ahead and placed my order (frame, wheels & Reba) I won't be hucking this bike anytime soon (heck, I don't ride like that anyhow)

I want a 29er single speed for the shear pleasure of riding a 29er and if I feel the need to get silly I'll grab my baby-wheel Ventana instead :)

I was told my Clyde status would snap my SASS frame and that didn't happen. I tend to be harder on spokes than anything so I worry more about the American Classic wheels than I do the frame but time will tell.

Russ

P-Funk,

Just so you know the XL Niner is designed with a larger rider in mind. Each frame size has different butting and tube wall thickness based on frame size. The XL has a specially designed Taperwall butted downtube from Easton. Also the stays have been designed around a heavier rider as well.

On the other end the smalls have custom butted stays and Easton Taperwall main tubes with a lighter rider in mind.

P-Funk,

Just so you know the XL Niner is designed with a larger rider in mind. Each frame size has different butting and tube wall thickness based on frame size. The XL has a specially designed Taperwall butted downtube from Easton. Also the stays have been designed around a heavier rider as well.

On the other end the smalls have custom butted stays and Easton Taperwall main tubes with a lighter rider in mind.
What would an XL weigh?

P-Funk,

Just so you know the XL Niner is designed with a larger rider in mind. Each frame size has different butting and tube wall thickness based on frame size. The XL has a specially designed Taperwall butted downtube from Easton. Also the stays have been designed around a heavier rider as well.

On the other end the smalls have custom butted stays and Easton Taperwall main tubes with a lighter rider in mind.

Chris,
This is what a guy like me likes to hear. Now if I can just keep those sweet Am. Classic wheels from destruction then I'll be a happy Clyde!

Russ

That's good to hear about the XL frame Chris. And onepivot, you're on the heavy end of the weight limit for those AC wheels. I believe 235 is the recommended weight cutoff.

That's good to hear about the XL frame Chris. And onepivot, you're on the heavy end of the weight limit for those AC wheels. I believe 235 is the recommended weight cutoff.


I know I will be taking a risk there but I am in the process of dropping a bit more weight and our trails around here are pretty tame XC stuff so I will just have to baby them a bit :)

Russ

That's cool. You'll probably be alright. Plus, at that price how could you pass it up?

That's cool. You'll probably be alright. Plus, at that price how could you pass it up?


Besides, I'm a light 240 :)