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    What shoes do you wear?

    What shoes and Why do you like them? or hate them.

    I have been wearing shimano M220 and the newest ones and just have not found the fit to be accomodating. I love the stiff soles but the carbon wears down when useing egg beaters.

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    Sidi Rocks!

    i am going on my 4th season with my Sidi Dominators. they have put up with hardcore SS riding & racing, 24 hour racing, long rides on killer singletrack and even trail maintanence sessions (not kind at all). they just keep on keepin on. the velcro is getting a bit worn but has never slipped. i also use Sidi shoes on the road and love the fit. they actually form to the shape of your foot and get better over time. i suppose if you can forget about your shoes/feet while riding, then they are doing exactly the right thing.

    i recently won some of the new Pearl Izumi Vipers with the crazy kevlar "string" that runs through the shoe and is controlled by one dial. they are really cool and techno, stiff as hell with the carbon sole, but are more difficult to hike in when off the bike in a tough spot. not quite as comfy as the Dominators. i think i will use them for shorter races and stuff.

    btw, i used Time Atacs and now use Candy SL's.
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    Diadora

    "Kava" Got them on closeout. Wound up with two pair, but like it that way (another story). Two buckles and one vecro. About 4 years on them. One pair has the toe cleats attached, the other doesn't. I use the cleated pair for dirt and the other for road riding. BUT I run the same pedals on all my bikes, so each shoe goes either way if necessary.

    The "road" pair (they're moutain soled) will probably last me another 10 years easy. The dirt pair are wearing, but will go another couple of years easy.

    Of course, they don't make 'em anymore. But I'll probably go Diadora next time.
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    Answer

    I like Answers speedster or palisades for the more flexable soles so I can explore the very technical on foot and for those hills that are just too much for me. When I tried the ultra stiff racing type soles they were hard to hike in and kind of dangerous on rocks; sort of like walking on ice. But then again I'm slow and a stiffer shoe aint gonna change that.

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    sidi dom 5 lorica baby all the way!!! back in black
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    skate shoes.

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    Northwave

    I wear Northwave, do not know the model - it has a dial and 2 velcros. The best fit - like a glove. Stiff. No problems after a year of hard riding.

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    I use 7-8 different pairs:
    • Pearl Izumi Vagabond (2 pair)
    • adidas 3/4 top boot type I can not remember the model name of
    • Lake MZ 300 winter
    • Lake MX 160 (Vibram sole is great off the bike)
    • adidas XC shoes (two different models name unknown)
    • Sidi Dominator

    and a few more. Each shoe has its place.
    All are used with Eggbeaters and/or Malletts.
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    Carnac Sirius, but I'm not all that thrilled with them. The soles are too soft, which is fine for walking, but with my wide feet and Egg Beaters they tend to roll off to the side of the pedals. If I could get any shoes out there, I'd probably order a custom sized set of Rocket 7's, but since I don't have $700 lying around I'll just stick with the ones I have for now.

    I've also worn shoes from Sidi, Gaerne, and Shimano, none of which were perfect (although the Dom II's were about as close as they get).

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    I wear walking boots. No intention of ever fastening myself to a bike.
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    Sidi doms

    5 years on my first pair, they probably have another year or so in them. Now I have an 05 pair. They feel just as good spinning on the gearie or mashing on the SS.
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    Diadora Jalapenos, confi and good priced shoe, also have a pair of Sidi SRS that I don't use anymore because they are too tight on my feet and the soles don't last.

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    I have a few pairs - actually I used to go through shoes a pair a year and now thatI have more than 1 pair - I've been running about 3 years on them now... they just seem to hold up better when you can rotate them....

    Northwaves, Nikes, Specialized, 661 - I'm suprised when I looked I can't find any names on them... what's up with that....lol

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    I have some specialized sport MTB. THe best I could find for my price range (~$80). They slip a bit on the heel when off the bike, fit fine when on. I have a runners foot, wide across the toes, skinny heel, so I have a real hard time finding sports shoes that fit me. I have always worn Nike running shoes, but I didn't see a wide selection of Nike shoes, at least not ones I could afford.
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    I use the Lake MX 165. Just got them and love them already. I agree with Shiggy that the vibram sole is great!!

    Before these I had a pair of Answer shoes that I have used for the last 10 years. Those were good too but more race style and not as good for walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSped
    What shoes and Why do you like them? or hate them.

    I have been wearing shimano M220 and the newest ones and just have not found the fit to be accomodating. I love the stiff soles but the carbon wears down when useing egg beaters.
    I've found that my feet love the Carnac. They are very comfortable. However, on all of them the Velcro eventually delaminated from the straps. I don't know if they still make a model that has a lot of neoprene-ish material at the top, but that takes a while to dry.

    I've purchased every pair on blowout somewhere. The last three I've owned were $50 or less (but retail for $150 or more) on those Performance stores' purge tables.

    I've used Sidi Dominators for a long time and they are runner up. More durable than the Carnacs, but not as comfortable to me. I also hate how the click-buckles (rarely) jam up with little rocks and pebbles, making it extremely difficult to remove the shoes. Finally, the tread material they use must have the lowest coefficient of friction when walking on moist rocks. It's like walking on ice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSped
    What shoes and Why do you like them? or hate them.

    I have been wearing shimano M220 and the newest ones and just have not found the fit to be accomodating. I love the stiff soles but the carbon wears down when useing egg beaters.
    Specialized ProCompSomethingOrOthers. I like the Body Geometry fit with the ample toebox. The uppers are supple. The ratchet system gets sticky when dirty though.

    I have Shimanos but I don't like the stiffness of the uppers.

    I have Sidi Dominator II Mega and like the smooth interior surfaces, but I don't like the slippery plastic sole. Also, the heel outsole (the weightbearing surface, i.e., lugs) is narrow and predisposed me to twisting my ankle. I fell four times before I figured that one out. Luckily i didn't suffer any lasting inversion injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datako
    I wear walking boots. No intention of ever fastening myself to a bike.
    Why not? You fasten your shoes to your feet don't you, even more securely than a clipless pedal.
    Walking boots are usually heavier than a shoe needs to be for riding.

    I use Sidi Dom's....nothing fits better. I wish they were stiffer, but they feel so good for so long, it's worth it.
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    Smile Chiming in.

    For me, it's Specialized or nothin'.

    I have a pair of Sidi roadie shoes that fit "OK"....but my Specialized "sport" or "comp" mtb. shoes fit ME like the proverbial glove.

    "Sports" (3 pair) used to be five bucks a pair at specialized.com

    "Comps" I shelled out fifteen.

    Wishing I could find some more! Sh*tmano's have never fit my big ol' narrow size 14 or 15.

    Not the stiffest shoes is the camp, but I'll still spank ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xrmattaz
    For me, it's Specialized or nothin'.
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    I used to agree. The Body Geometry shoe was downright dreamy...but then, 2004 came and the new line of shoes for that year no longer fit me.
    The sz 48 in 03 fit...in 04...nope....i will add that the Specialized shoes have half the use life of the Sidi's....after about 9 months the Specy's start to fall apart, velcro gets loose, etc.... My Sidi's are just now starting to disintegrate. I'm wearing through the sole's...the uppers are solid and the buckles/velcro still perform flawlessly...nice!

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    Amen brother!

    Still looking for the "right" pair of Sidi's that'll make me happy. Not willing to shell out a coupla hundred bucks to "try 'em" though....... seems as though forty eights are too little and forty nines are way too big....I dunno.


    I actually regularly use my Sidi roadie shoes and an old pair of them Sidi "winter boot" thingies.



    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    I used to agree. The Body Geometry shoe was downright dreamy...but then, 2004 came and the new line of shoes for that year no longer fit me.
    The sz 48 in 03 fit...in 04...nope....i will add that the Specialized shoes have half the use life of the Sidi's....after about 9 months the Specy's start to fall apart, velcro gets loose, etc.... My Sidi's are just now starting to disintegrate. I'm wearing through the sole's...the uppers are solid and the buckles/velcro still perform flawlessly...nice!

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    I'm on my second pair of Sidi Dominators (first pair lasted 6+ years). I would recommend them to anyone. Also ride Sidi road shoes.

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    I have two identical pairs of Cannondale shoes (one pair for each set of cleats, SPD and Eggbeaters). I think they were called 'Clogs' for some reason, but that's hardly accurate since there's definitely a heel cup to the shoe (riding in real cleated clogs would be interesting, no?) No laces, no straps, they're brilliant. Best part about them is that if you didn't look at the sole to see the cleat, you'd never know they were bike shoes.

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    Pearl Izumi vagabonds for me.

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    winter: lake MXZ300. so warm and nice

    summer: sidi dom 4. so durable and high performance yet comfy. wore them for the first time this year yesterday!

    but you just have to try them on. no matter the shoe, if it doesnt fit, it sucks.
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    well i just got some addidas something or others and WOULDN'T recommend them to anyone who dosen't have seriously skinny feet.mine are still trying to be "broken in" but in another month or two i am gonna give up on them if they don't soften up a little and ease the pressure on the sides of my feet. it's not like they make my feet hurt, they just aren't comfortable....


    before i had some pearl izumi's (the older ones with three velcro straps) and before that the shimano 220's i liked both of them a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    [*]Lake MX 160 (Vibram sole is great off the bike)
    I bought a pair of Lake's because I wanted the Vibram sole. I really wanted those shoes to work out, but alas, the they didn't fit me right. Nashbar even had them on sale.

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    Nike something

    Now I wear a nike shoe, carbon sole, very comfortable. At first I didn't like them because I was so used to my shimanoo 220s. The nikes are lighter than the shimanoos and just as stiff too me. The lightness worried me at first, but now I love these shoes. I bought them while working at a bike shop. I use egg beaters and have had no problems with the pedals trying to mangle the carbon fiber sole on either the nike or shimanoo shoes.

    My next pair will probably be sidi dominator in the wide version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Why not? You fasten your shoes to your feet don't you....
    True, but there's few instances I can think of where it'd be advantageous to bail out of your shoes quickly or risk serious injury. On the other hand, I can think of a lot of cases where not being mechaincally attached to your bike is a big plus. Try vaulting off an elevated stunt while clipped in....

    Vans for me. Grippy, last a good long time, and cheap when found at the outlet store. Plus, you can walk quietly into a coffee shop post-ride, rather than sounding like you're testing new tap shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nat
    I bought a pair of Lake's because I wanted the Vibram sole. I really wanted those shoes to work out, but alas, the they didn't fit me right. Nashbar even had them on sale.
    That is where I got mine. They do fit me well.
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    Nike Kato II for most of my riding ... stiff, comfortable and reasonably light for the price (about $80 retail, though I paid a lot less). I have one pair for commute/work and another pair for mtn. biking.

    Nike T-Speed for road-only rides in nice weather.

    Lake MXZ300 for snowy conditions ... unbelievably comfortable, and warm. Only problem is the fit is ridiculously narrow, so instead of my usual 44 I had to buy 47s. First I got 46s and had to send them back because they were too tight! As a result they occasionally buzz the front tire, but on the type of rides I do with these shoes it doesn't matter too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SprungShoulders
    Plus, you can walk quietly into a coffee shop post-ride, rather than sounding like you're testing new tap shoes.
    Um, that's only a problem with road shoes.

    Most mountain shoes I've seen have deep enough tread that the cleats almost never contact the floor.

    Of course it's personal preference, but I can't imagine not being clipped in while riding over technical terrain. Pretty much necessary to properly loft the back when you're riding over logs, rocks and roots.
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    Specialized BG shoes here, tried a pair od Sidi's and they were too narrow in the toebox, the Spec'd are nice and wide. I don't worry that they won't last as long since they cost so much less.

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    Well There should be a poll

    But it looks like the SIDI dominator is the pick of the litter. I am going to try a pair and see how they feel. Thanks. It is neet to see what peoples preferences are.

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    Sidi Doms - Size 45.5 Mega's

    Like em'. They fit great and I don't get hot foot.

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    Another vote for the Dominators

    I love the fit, they are very durable, but I have to echo previous comments about their slippery tread on wet rocks and roots. More than once after bailing on some technical wet root section I have slipped and almost fallen a second time.
    I keep thinking about shoe goo-ing some 10.5 rubber on to the hard, slippery plastic cleats but have not gotten around to it yet.
    Other than that, though, they are the best feeling, best fitting bike shoe I have ever worn.
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    Walking boots because I do a lot of walking There's a lot of interesting places that you can't ride.

    I never had a problem with my feet coming unstuck while riding a motorcycle at high speed in the dirt, and I don't have a problem on the SS either (at much lower speeds).

    If there's going to be a problem, I want to be able to bail out from the bike as quickly as possible. I also suspect that crashing a bike while clipped in is a really good way to get a knee injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datako
    ...I never had a problem with my feet coming unstuck while riding a motorcycle at high speed in the dirt, and I don't have a problem on the SS either (at much lower speeds).

    If there's going to be a problem, I want to be able to bail out from the bike as quickly as possible. I also suspect that crashing a bike while clipped in is a really good way to get a knee injury.
    It is obvious you have never used clipless pedals. Your stated "problems" are not. The many advantages FAR out weigh the very few disadvantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    It is obvious you have never used clipless pedals. Your stated "problems" are not. The many advantages FAR out weigh the very few disadvantages.
    Do all downhillers ride clipless, shiggy?

    Anyway 4 me: my Sidi dominators on the shelf- only using Pearl izumi Vaper. I got forefoot pain after riding with the Sidi pair on long rides, although it was a perfect fit. Perhaps this is due to the soft sole? Have ridden other brands as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chainsuck
    Do all downhillers ride clipless, shiggy?
    No. Some do. Some don't.
    What does that have to do with this discussion? How many DHers ride uphill or SSs?
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    Another vote for Sidi Dominators. Tried Spcialized, Shimano, and Lakes....all roads lead to Sidi.
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    I've used the 2004 Specialized comps which are reasonably comfortable, light and have stiff soles with excellent traction for my 165lb carcass. I've also used last years s idi dom4 mesh. They were really really comfy once they were broken in(got hot spots on the ball during descents at first) but the traction sucks @$$ and the heal traction was too narrow making it very easy to twist the ankle. I also got trapped numerous times due to gunk getting in the buckle.

    I recently bought a pair of 2005 specialized comps that have the buckle. I tried on a bunch of pairs and felt they fit me the best. I also tried the shi mano 225 but they seemed heavy and slipped in the heal. Also tried the carbon soled specialized. they were exactly same as the non-carbon version but 100 dollars more. not worth it, imo. i like the 2005 for everything but I have a sneaky suspicion the buckle will fail or trap me. They've been a bit difficult to get off when muddy but still nothing like the s idi's where they simply refused to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    It is obvious you have never used clipless pedals. Your stated "problems" are not. The many advantages FAR out weigh the very few disadvantages.
    Advantages?
    How can you walk any distance in them? (like over a mountain with your bike on your back)
    I can buy several pairs of walking boots for the price of a decent pair of bike shoes, so I always have dry boots each day.

    Hopefully there is some efficiency advantage or all the racers wouldn't be using them, but I dress for the hills rather than the bike. Less discomfort if you're marooned in foul weather.

    In fact the only bike specific gear I wear is gloves (and a helmet when in totalitarian states).
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    Sidi Dominators

    Yep. Sho-nuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datako
    Advantages?
    How can you walk any distance in them? (like over a mountain with your bike on your back)
    Yes I can, with the right shoe. That is why I have a dozen different pairs of riding shoes. Usually I don't take my bike out for an off-trail hike though.


    I can buy several pairs of walking boots for the price of a decent pair of bike shoes, so I always have dry boots each day.
    I paid $15-$200 for my shoes. Generally the cheaper ones are the better hikers.


    Hopefully there is some efficiency advantage or all the racers wouldn't be using them, but I dress for the hills rather than the bike. Less discomfort if you're marooned in foul weather.
    I wear what works for the conditions, too. I like to be comfortable on and off the bike.


    In fact the only bike specific gear I wear is gloves (and a helmet when in totalitarian states).
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    I currently use Lake MX-80's, for both my FS and SS. Sole is stiff enough for power transfer, while offering a bit of traction for portaging and hike-a-bikes.

    I really like the lace and hook and loop combo, plus, they're all black!

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    Shimano M-038, comfortable for walking and seem to fit well
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    Regarding Rocket 7 shoes

    Quote Originally Posted by -Anomie-
    If I could get any shoes out there, I'd probably order a custom sized set of Rocket 7's, but since I don't have $700 lying around I'll just stick with the ones I have for now..
    Actually, Rocket 7 charges $389 for a pair of semi-custom shoes, and $559 for full custom. If you don't have extremely unusual feet (very wide, or very narrow) - the semi-custom is a pretty awesome way to get into a pair of excellent shoes.

    I switched to R7 on the road bike after getting tired of trying to find shoes that fit really well - I was sure I was wasting a lot of energy with the amount of slop I was getting in normal shoes (I have a narrow heel). Sure enough, getting the R7s really helped, on short, steep, out-of-the-saddle climbs in particular - my semi-custom shoe has a slightly narrower heel cup and the energy transfer difference is amazing.

    Now, I am saving up for a pair of R7 ATB semi-custom shoes - if the road shoes are any indication, the ATB shoes will make a huge difference. Until then I am making do with a pair of Shimano M-221s, but I can tell that they just don't fit perfectly. I suppose that getting a pair of custom shoes is a bit like opening Pandora's Box, because no other shoe will ever seem good enough again. But, the R7s seem to last longer anyway, and they can repair them if you need.

    Women in particular should check out the R7 shoes - most* companies stop making half sizes at size 39 and they typically don't make their high-end shoe in a smaller women's version.

    *yes, I know that Sidi makes a women's shoe in small sizes,and their higher-end shoes often come in small sizes, but it is difficult to find a shop that will stock those sizes in any brand, or who will special order them for you to try on without your guaranteeing that you buy them. Mail order companies also sometimes stock smaller sizes, but not as many of them as you would think.

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