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    Leg Armor: 661 Race vs. Rockgardn LZMX

    Hey Everyone,

    Christmas is around the corner, and I'm looking at some armor. I really like the Lizard Skins, but they don't quite fit me very well. Two other sets of pads that caught my eye were the 661 Race Knee/Shin Guards and the RockGardn LZMX Knee/Shin Guards. What are your guys' opinions on these two sets of pads? I'm also interested in the elbow/forearm pads in each line. I like the design in each line because both of them involve a nice "sleeve" as well as straps.I know quite a few people run the 661 Race's and really like them, but I don't think I've heard anyone's comments regarding the RockGardn LZMX's.

    Pads in question...

    661 Race
    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/173...hin-Guards.htm
    http://www.blueskycycling.com/produc...bow-Guards.htm

    RockGardn LZMX
    http://www.blueskycycling.com/produc...hin-Guards.htm
    http://www.blueskycycling.com/produc...hin-Guards.htm
    http://www.blueskycycling.com/produc...arm-Guards.htm

    Thanks!

    Mike
    Last edited by black hills tj; 11-11-2008 at 01:00 AM.

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    I like the more protection of the 661s
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    Quote Originally Posted by black hills tj
    .I know quite a few people run the 661 Race's and really like them, but I don't think I've heard anyone's comments regarding the RockGardn LZMX's.


    Thanks!

    Mike
    A few comments regarding the RockGardn LZMX:

    1. Light and comfortable. They never slide down your leg.
    2. Cooling is very good
    3. Pedaling is easy with them.
    4. Don't protect as well as the 661 race (not designed to).
    5. There was quite a lot of skin rubbing initially for me. You need to find the right place to strap them and remember to repeat it every time you put them on.

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    Thanks for sharing your opinions guys. I'd appreciate it if others chimed in as well. The more opinions I can get, the better informed I'll be when I make the purchase(s).

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    I have recently spent about 6 hours researching different knee/shin guard combos. Personally, I think the THE Industries Storm Knee Guard represents the best compromise between protection and pedaling comfort. It is on my x-mas list this year (along w/ the elbows).

    Just wanted to throw it out there for you.

    Edit: Linky: http://www.the-industries.com/produc...s/tksg-01.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jminus
    I have recently spent about 6 hours researching different knee/shin guard combos. Personally, I think the THE Industries Storm Knee Guard represents the best compromise between protection and pedaling comfort. It is on my x-mas list this year (along w/ the elbows).

    Just wanted to throw it out there for you.

    Edit: Linky: http://www.the-industries.com/produc...s/tksg-01.html
    Looks like Blue Sky Cycling has the best prices on these. 50 for the arms and 65 for the legs.

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    What do you guys think of the Race Face Roach/Rally FR Line? They seem to be on sale for a nice price at Wheel World.

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=5950

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=5952

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    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/167...uards-2008.htm

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/167...uards-2008.htm

    I like my LZMX pads. I have the knee/shin and the arm guards along with the flak jacket.

    If you buy the Flak Jacket it comes with the arm guards I posted the link to. Or if you dont need the jacket the Landing zone arm pads are good by themself.

    I don't have any problems with the LZMX pads rubbing or moving around. Most of my rides are about 1-3 hours long and I don't really even notice them. Very rare I need to readjust them if at all on a 2 hour ride.

    The ladning zone arm guards are awesome. With either pad I mention they both use sleeves as well as straps and hold well in place.
    I haven't really had any crashes with them yet (knock on wood) aside from some pedal bashing on the shins and such so I can't comment on how they handle in a bad crash, but they seem like they would be very protective in a hard bail.

    My vote goes to the Rock Gardn pads. And they are cheaper in the links I posted.
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    Thanks for sharing your opinion Savage. It looks like the only difference in the LZ and the LZMX is the sleeve and velcro straps. The LZ just seems to be able to attach a little more tightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hills tj
    What do you guys think of the Race Face Roach/Rally FR Line? They seem to be on sale for a nice price at Wheel World.

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=5950

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=5952
    Now your talking!! Good choice.

    Rockgardn makes good stuff, however their knee guards are def the weak link in the lineup. Sorry don't know cr@p about newer 661 stuff.

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    Sounds like all 4(661, RockGardn, THE, and Race Face) are quality pads. Someone needs to help me make up my mind now :P

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    choose whatever looks the best to you. or cheapest if you are strapped for cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by first.hander
    choose whatever looks the best to you. or cheapest if you are strapped for cash.
    Well...they are Christmas gift ideas for my family...so price isn't a huge deal, but it should be taken into consideration.

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    I got some of the Roach shins guards about a month ago and don't see how I could have gotten anything better. Light weight, awesome protection for impacts as well as scrapes. They seem to have a little more coverage than some of the other brands without being bulky. I haven't had any rubbing and they stay in place. Bonus: if you get them under the Roach name instead of RaceFace you can get a heck of a deal. Exact same thing.

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    I ran the LZMX pads this season and I was very happy with them. The biggest thing for me was that they were very comfortable once they broke in - no pinching. They are easy to pedal in and never felt like I was missing additional protection while DHing (even with flat pedals). The adjustments stayed put and overall the pad was very durable - no cracked plastic, no frays, etc. I plan to pick up another set before Spring.

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    Here is my take on 3 sets we have.(favorite one last)

    Me and my girlfriend have 3 sets of pads.

    3. Rockgardn Landing Zone=a very burly set of pads. Easy on and off, but pretty big to carry on the pack if you take them off. Fairly comfortable, but also fairly bulky and hot. They do slide down with lots of pedaling and require the occasional hike back up. Not bad to pedal in, but probably best for rides with more downhill. Lots of protection.

    2. Rockgardn LZMX=almost as much protection as the Landing Zone. I think they are more comfortable for pedaling than the Landing Zone. I can wear them climbing quite well. My girlfriend always gets chafed by them, and I never do. They are a cuff, so shoes need to come off to put them on. They do slide down a little over time when pedaling, but not at all if I simply put the leg of my liner shorts over the top edge of the cuff. Womens shorts have legs that do not go as low, so my girlfriend can't do that, and that may be why they work for me and not for her.

    1. Dainese 3X=a very well fitting and lightweight set. Easy on and off and easy to carry on the pack if you want to only wear them on downhills, but comfortable enough to wear all the time. Very comfortable, and they do not chafe either of us, nor do they slide down on either of us. They are very comfortable to wear for the entire ride. Not quite as much protection as the LZMX, but close, and the way the top of the knee comes up over the top they should stay in place in a fall. Overall, our favorite to wear all the time with the best combo of fit, comfort, and protection to just put on and forget, and wear on any ride.

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    Its a toss up for THE Storm line and the Roach's so I just asked my family for one or the other, with an emphasis on THE Storm :P

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    will these pads fit under relatively loose jeans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hills tj
    What do you guys think of the Race Face Roach/Rally FR Line? They seem to be on sale for a nice price at Wheel World.

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=5950

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=5952
    I did a side-by-side comparison between the Raceface Rally DH ones, and the 661's you mentioned initially, some time ago when I was about to get some leg armour. The Racefaces were more comfortable, better fit, and seemd to stay on better just doing the standing still pedalling motion test in the shop, whereas the 661's slid down. The RF's also rubbed less annoyingly. The 661's were very tight between shin & knee and wouldn't bend much.

    Having said all that I didn't end up getting any (still plan too one day) so I can comment on performance out on the trail.

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