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    Hello Ladies,

    We here at Loeka Clothing, http://loeka.com/, would like to say hi to those of you who know us and introduce ourselves to those of you who don't. We are looking for some more feedback from YOU! We want to know what makes your favourite shorts, jersey, jackets, pants your favourite. Let us know. We will be checking this thread every few days for your replies. If you have any specific questions for us please feel free to send us an email. Cheers.
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    I haven't tried your clothing (didn't know about them until now), but when I checked out the website I was pleased to find that your jerseys run long enough for a tall person (~6') like me to wear without having to go to tent-like girths to get the needed length.



    One thing I couldn't tell from the pictures, do the shorts come with some sort of pseudo-belt to tighten the waist? Belt loops are OK, but I prefer an attached way to tighten things to keep shorts where I want them.
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    Like Dakine fashion for "women", my girlfriend actually won't buy for the graphic female filigree that denotes the difference. Loeka has the same affliction- hell the whole dang industry. I say at least they aren't scented!

    Hey, I am a "lady" too!

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    I have a pair of Loeka shorts. While I could do without the pink embroidery, the price was right (from Chainlove.com).

    They are a nice pair of shorts, light, lots of pockets, and the elastic + belt keeps em in place.

    Not sure I'd pay for full price though.

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    I have to disagree re the graphics and pink embroidery, I'm all about that, think it looks awesome. Also love the capri length shorts, I have legs up to my eyeballs and while some say it's a gift, getting shorts and pants that fit like they are supposed to is practically impossible. So yay for the capris!

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    Hi Deanna,

    Our 2008 shorts came with a built in nylon belt for cinching up the waist. For 2009 we do have the built in belt anymore. Just belt loops so you can add your own personal style touch with a belt. Lots of girls are not sure about riding with a belt, as will dig in to me ect. So far the feedback has been all positive. Our team riders are wearing our leather and cloth belt for DH, Free riding, commuting in. For longer all mountain rides the girls have been using a cloth belt with a small buckle. Now our Tech SHELL shorts, basically our over short, still comes with a built in belt. A very very popular short, as light weight, durable and fits into a jersey back pocket. Hope that helps. Cheers.
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    Thanks for the feedback, are you willing to be more specific about the graphics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firecrackerktm
    I have a pair of Loeka shorts. While I could do without the pink embroidery, the price was right (from Chainlove.com).

    They are a nice pair of shorts, light, lots of pockets, and the elastic + belt keeps em in place.

    Not sure I'd pay for full price though.

    Thanks Firecrackerktm, We understand not every girl wants pink on their gear, we get that feedback loud and clear. Would you be willing to let us know why you would not pay full price? Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_chick
    I have to disagree re the graphics and pink embroidery, I'm all about that, think it looks awesome. Also love the capri length shorts, I have legs up to my eyeballs and while some say it's a gift, getting shorts and pants that fit like they are supposed to is practically impossible. So yay for the capris!

    Thanks for the feedback mtb_chick. We are glad we can provide a length of short for long legged ladies. Cheers. Oh hopefully everyone sees this, Im not the most forum savvy yet, we are also having a summer sale on now till end of Aug. Details on the website.
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    Thanks for asking!

    I don't own any of your products (yet), but when I am looking for bike clothes I try to stay away from the flowery stuff. I don't mind pink and I have several things that are solid pink. I just don't want a bunch of flowers and birds on my shorts or shirts. For me, no graphics is good graphics.

    I like long shorts/capris with plenty of pockets and either velcro to tighten the waist or a belt. For shirt I like a half-zipper, so I can ventilate if needed. My problem with shorts or pants is that I have an ample bottom and thighs, yet a small waist. It is hard to find a good fit in shorts because it seems like most cycling clothing designers think we still want to show out curves on the trail. I just want some good baggies like the men get. I am not interested in showing curves.

    That is my 2 cents :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbybird
    My problem with shorts or pants is that I have an ample bottom and thighs, yet a small waist. It is hard to find a good fit in shorts because it seems like most cycling clothing designers think we still want to show out curves on the trail. I just want some good baggies like the men get. I am not interested in showing curves.

    That is my 2 cents :-)
    I have a similar problem, Robby -- women's "sports" clothing doesn't have enough curves to fit; they are always a "junior" fit and if the hips fit the waist is ALWAYS too big. Built-in waist cinchers can help if the fit is at least close. It defies logic, but I have more luck when I can find shorts in a men's 28.

    Women's tops are also always a junior's fit. I haven't been that flat chested since I was 14. When I buy the XL to fit the girls it's like having a biking moo moo on with an extra yard of fabric flapping in the breeze.

    It would be enormously helpful if Loeka -- or anyone -- thought about those of us who have curves. We don't want to show cleavage or anything on the trail, but rather have clothes that FIT.
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    I don't own anything loeka, but I did check out the website. What I would like to find is shorter shorts. I don't want them hanging down around my knees. The only pair of short mountain bike shorts I have ever found were made by Trek and I found them on a clearance rack and haven't seen another pair like them anywhere else. And I'm not talking Daisy Dukes here, just something above the knee.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loeka
    Thanks Firecrackerktm, We understand not every girl wants pink on their gear, we get that feedback loud and clear. Would you be willing to let us know why you would not pay full price? Cheers.
    Oh, just because I'm a beginner, and stuff tends to get trashed--dirt, abrasions, rips. It's hard to justify $60+ shorts to my husband

    I'm that way with everything though. I usually surf the discount sites, trying to find decent quality that's last year's leftovers or what not. I have a lot of expensive hobbies to try to keep up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedGood
    ...What I would like to find is shorter shorts.....
    They're definitely out there. You can search by inseam length @ teamestrogen.com.

    I would agree that what's FAR harder to find is sporting goods built for girls with curves. I've presently fought myself down to a very lean weight and I still couldn't get a size large Fox shorts even over my arse the other weekend.

    I don't know what sporting goods makers can do though. Unfortunately athletic women come in pretty radically different sizes and shapes, and those of us on the fringe of the bell curve are probably going to be stuck making do.
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    I have a pair of shorts and a sleeveless jersey from Loeka, and love both of them.

    The shirt is long enough for my freakishly long torso -- a rare fit in women's wear. Perhaps most women's legs start at their boobs (hence every women's specific anything in cycling), but I have a long waist and typically wear a men's jersey to avoid being a biking advertisement for Girls Gone Wild. Unfortunately (in one way) I also have a thin frame, so Men's clothes don't fit very well. I would definitely buy another shirt from you guys.

    The shorts also fit well -- another shocker for women's wear. I think your sizes run a bit big, but this is a blessing for me since I'm typically between sizes. My only minor gripe with the shorts is that the waist-butt-thigh ratio feels a tiny bit off. My legs are pretty big for my otherwise-thin frame, and the shorts end up being a bit snug across the quads, and too loose in the waist (I have to wear a belt with them). Since women cyclists tend to get larger legs and saddles, I would think this is pretty common.

    I send out a big THANK YOU for using that microfiber fabric and not making the shorts out of fully stretchy material. I'm so freaking sick of trying on women's 'baggies' and finding out that nearly every one is made of some stupid spandex hybrid. If they stretch all over the front and back....they're not really baggy are they?

    Obviously you can't fit every body type, but I like your stuff. The simple two-tone graphics are feminine without being over the top, although I typically stay away from pink and flowers on clothes. Thanks for seeking feedback!

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    Quote Originally Posted by verslowrdr
    I don't know what sporting goods makers can do though. Unfortunately athletic women come in pretty radically different sizes and shapes, and those of us on the fringe of the bell curve are probably going to be stuck making do.
    I don't think we're that odd. We're all no doubt a bit different., but there's 3 of us on this thread with the same curves fit problem so we can't be that far away from the norm.

    I'm just grateful there's a company that sizes sports bras like bras, so I can get one that fits and works. (Moving Comfort.)
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    I agree with verslowrdr ... not just athletic women, but ALL women come in so many different shapes and sizes. Some of us put on our weight in our hips, thighs, fanny, tummy, chest, or any combination thereof!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleC
    I don't think we're that odd. We're all no doubt a bit different., but there's 3 of us on this thread with the same curves fit problem so we can't be that far away from the norm.
    Make that four.

    Caveat: I am not familiar with the brand however, I sure can echo-echo-echo the comments on shorts for women with curves. I am a tiny size 6 with hips and a waist, ( in shape, not heavy) and I am finding that almost everything I try on seems to be built for the athletic type build - straight as a board with no curves. So, if something fits over my butt, I have serious waistline gap-osis. This mostly means I just don't buy it. While i have the sewing skills to alter these things for a nice fit, I refuse to pay $60+ for something that I will have to spend time altering. Or, if it fits my waist I can't get it up my thighs.

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    Five now.

    I have not bought any bike clothes in years but am getting close to having to. I have not been buying because I could NEVER find things to fit at a reasonable price.

    Paying $80-$90 or more for a pair of shorts/capris I can't try on first is NOT happening.

    I am in that bad place where womens clothes just do not fit. I have real boobs, big arms and shoulders, big muscular thighs and rear, but I am short. So anything that even comes close to fitting my arms and chest is a tent. Shorts that fit over my thighs and rear hang way below my knees.

    I will not spend my own money on jersey's with sleeves. There are two reasons for this and one is fit. I am NOT paying $60-$80+ for a jersey, no matter how cute it is, if I am going to have to slit the under side of the sleeve so it will NOT cut off the circulation in my arms. The other reason has to do with where I live - if it's cool enough to need sleeves I can wear a technical undershirt.

    In fact, now most of what I wear to ride is technical clothes from my local sporting goods store; Academy. I can get tops that fit with out breaking the bank. I wear regular bike shorts most of the time, but still have a 10yo pair of baggies that I wear. I would like more baggies/capri's but have yet to find any that fit for under $100.
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    I haven't tried on Loeka shorts in a couple years (didn't buy them because they didn't fit), but last time I did, here are my comments:

    On the positive side: I think you guys have REALLY cute graphics/prints/colors. I love the pink, love the purple, love the yellow/brown plaid. Very cute. Not such a fan of contrast stitching. But most of your stuff is really cute. I don't like frilly pastels, but I'm all about hot pink accents (or even hot pink clothes). Bright girly colors/swirls/even bold flowers (like your logo) are good. Frilly flowers and patterns that look like they belong on my grandmother's wallpaper - not good. For my tastes, you're doing that part right.

    I also love the length - the longer the better IMHO. And they feel pretty durable.

    On the negative side: First, I just don't like elastic waists. I know it makes sense to fit a wider variety of builds, but I feel like I'm wearing my mother's clothes. (And I'm 35). I just can't stand that "pouf" of fabric below the elastic.

    Second - I've got a curvy build (and therefore run into this with a lot of bike clothes) and they didn't really fit me well (too tight in the butt, big in the waist). I've heard your sizing got a little bigger over the past few years. Maybe the fit has changed a bit too. It's been a long time since i tried them on. EDIT - heh, I guess that makes me #6. I accept that I'm probably curvier than average, but I sometimes think cycling clothes manufactureres think that all women cyclists must have boyish hips, because it seems very uncommon to see cycling shorts made for women with big hips and a small waist.

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    I bought a pair of your shorts last year, love the length as I'm 6 foot, love the pinstripe on black, very cool but I found the fabric not breathable. At the time they had a pink lycra liner, I live in the mountains in Colorado and rode in these shorts for the first time last summer. As I rode I noticed that the fabric wasn't breathing and for the first time ever I found myself with sweaty legs (thighs) and the condensation would not go away, the shorts would stick to my thighs from the sweat. So I cut the liner out but it didn't help. It seems the fabric of the short is somewhat waterproof and has a coating on the inside. I can't wear these shorts in the summer even for DH because of this issue, I wear them now in the colder, wetter months of the year. The only thing I could think of was that a mesh liner might help the breathability issue..not sure..I was so disappointed as I love the look of the short. Has this happened to anyone else?

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    Hmm, no, the shorts I have are just a shell so I wear them over my spandex.

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    Mine are a shell as well, I my own chamois..it just seems the fabric has a coating on the inside that doesn't allow it to breath..I own shorts from FOX and Sombrio and don't have the same issues..

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    For shorts:
    I look for a shell w/out a built in short.
    and belt loops! my complaint w/ most other shorts is they don't have belt loops.

    I have a loeka jersey. I really like the way it fits and it is stylish.

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    I feel compelled to throw in my $0.02 here, because I have the opposite fit problems to all of you ladies. Far from being shorter and curvy, I am 5'11" and 130lbs, with (sadly) not much of a chest or butt and I definitely have never had a problem fitting shorts over my hips. I know no company can cater to all shapes and sizes, but I also think that a major thing they do is to make womens gear shorter. Cue me tearing my hair out and again holding on to ancient, falling apart gear just because I can't find anything to fit. If you truly want to try and cater to more fits, how about 3 lengths (short, reg and long) and 3 widths (slim, reg and curvy). Obviously this is not that economical for a small new company, but it's the way of the future (a la gap jeans)....

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    it's a heck of a lot easier to hem something for shorter length if the fit is just right everywhere else, than it is to alter a waist.

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    ...and yet another small, women's specific company gets the message. 10% of the men's market, addicted to Steep and Cheap and impossible to please with color and/or fit. Sounds profitable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuky
    ...and yet another small, women's specific company gets the message. 10% of the men's market, addicted to Steep and Cheap and impossible to please with color and/or fit. Sounds profitable!

    Respect to those who take on the challenge. It isn't easy.
    You hit the nail on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuky
    ...and yet another small, women's specific company gets the message. 10% of the men's market, addicted to Steep and Cheap and impossible to please with color and/or fit. Sounds profitable!

    Respect to those who take on the challenge. It isn't easy.
    It really isn't easy, which I think I've stated quite sympathetically earlier. Having said that... there's obviously something of a consistent problem expressed here. You seem to have some experience in this area Chucky so I'd like to hear any ideas you may have towards a resolution (if there is one).

    In the meantime I'm getting along w/ lycra PI shorts, which seem far more forgiving than baggies fit wise, and T-shirts. I'd like some jerseys but finding some off the shelf that don't come out either like a tent or hooker-tastic or exposing my backside to sunburn seems unlikely. I've actually been musing about paying Formica to make a couple for me.
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    Hey, I am a "lady" too![/QUOTE]

    thanks for helping me waste an hr of internet time watching vicky pollard and other little britain classics! This stuff is new to me, hilarious stuff.

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    Thanks for asking for feedback!

    I'll echo Connie on the fit of your shorts, it's been a couple of years since I've tried them though. I'll also say that I do like some stretch in shorts fabric. It's just nicer when you're swinging your leg over your saddle or dropping back for a steep roller to not feel hindered.

    I love your jerseys! I love the long length and the fabric. While they're decently tight with full upper body armor, they still fit and stretch and move so they work great! Thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuky
    ...and yet another small, women's specific company gets the message. 10% of the men's market, addicted to Steep and Cheap and impossible to please with color and/or fit. Sounds profitable!
    Guess I'm a weird-o who is willing to fork over the cash for something that actually *FITS*.

    I don't know what number I am in line for the desire for shorts to fit in the waist *AND* the butt hips, and while I'm not a real curvy person... I am definitely not built like a boy as most shorts seem to require. There does seem to be a fairly large segment of women, of varying heights and weights that have the SAME fit issue... so why not offer some shorts that don't cater to the pre-pubescent-boy-build crowd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by verslowrdr
    It really isn't easy, which I think I've stated quite sympathetically earlier. Having said that... there's obviously something of a consistent problem expressed here. You seem to have some experience in this area Chucky so I'd like to hear any ideas you may have towards a resolution (if there is one).
    No, it isn't easy... but ignoring any under-served market is also leaving money on the table.

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    I have been to your web site several times. I am always looking for the perfect pair of baggy shorts. I wear both lycra and baggy styles. I can't ever find any that are baggy but not too baggy or too tight. I'm 5'3 and about 117 pounds. I like the colors of your shorts but I couldn't really tell what they look like on the model. I think you should have more views and show more of the shorts.

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    Well I'm built like a brick... truly... there's less than an inch difference in my waist and hips so I do well with men's (cut) clothing. BUT I have short short legs and it's hot here in the summer and I want shorter shorts......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firecrackerktm
    Oh, just because I'm a beginner, and stuff tends to get trashed--dirt, abrasions, rips. It's hard to justify $60+ shorts to my husband

    I'm that way with everything though. I usually surf the discount sites, trying to find decent quality that's last year's leftovers or what not. I have a lot of expensive hobbies to try to keep up with.

    Thanks for answering my question. Lots of expensive hobbies takes a toll on the pocket book that is for sure and boy do I know. Im not sure what type or types of riding you are doing. If you let me know I can recommend a short that would most likely take care of your needs. In that with all the crashing and learning to ride will be able to stand up to the abuse. Cheers.
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    Thank you ladies for all your feedback, it really helps us and we really appreciate it. I seem to understand how this forum thing works. I was going to respond to you all individually but it appears majority of you have the same complaints. So here goes. It will be long.

    Our shorts have changed in fit from our first year 2007 to today 2009. Our fist year they ran small. NOT what we were going for. But the best way to learn is from your mistakes. So we worked very hard on getting the fit right for girls who bike, as girls who bike tend to have bigger legs, not all but most. So I am going to answer yes we now make shorts that fit girls with curves and the same shorts will fit girls with no curves. From your comments they would be true baggies.

    What we have worked very hard on is finding a very good hip waist ratio. Meaning we have designed our shorts/pants to allow the maximum hip, thigh, leg, butt room as possible with out having the shorts look like mc hammer parachute pants. Nobody wants those. We also do the 2 lengths regular length, above the knee and capri length below the knee. These lengths will vary depending on how tall you are. For our DH Shorts and Tech Shorts only. Our Tech SHELL shorts only come in regular length.

    Now if you were to look at our sizing chart on the website all the waists for our shorts and pants go through multiple sizes. This was done on purpose to allow, A) to fit more girls and B) to stop the shorts/pants from looking like parachute pants. I know having elastic at the back is very old fashioned but for right now it is the best solution we have found, working on another right now. Shhhh.

    I hope that makes sense so far. Now Im going to use our team riders as references for explaining our fit some more. We have a few, but Im going to use two, one who is curvy and one who is tall and lean. Both wear a size medium. Amber who is average height has bigger legs, bottom and hips. The shorts fit her perfect through those areas but are little big in the waist nothing major. She just wears a belt and done. Tara is tall around 6 feet, and legs that are super long. She is cut like a guy so to say, just slightly bigger hips. The mediums fit her perfect in the waist and hang baggy around her, but not too baggy.

    We aim to accommodate as many ladies as possible. As per some of your comments, we would love to make multiple different sizes to fit everyone but not economical.

    Oh speaking of sizes. Hopefully this will help out a lot of ladies. Coreena the other owner wears a medium short and she is a size 8 with small curves. My girlfriend wears a medium as well and she is a size 10 with curves.

    We seem to be doing very well on the jerseys. But we still keep working on them. We have a few new ones coming out in 2010 for those of you who like pockets and zippers.

    We also understand that to get the right size with out trying anything on is very difficult that is why, we are also going to be posting a video on our site in regards to fit and sizing in the next couple of weeks. Once that is up we would love to hear your comments about it and if it helps. I will keep you posted.

    Plus we are working very hard at coming to a store near you. I will get more into other things like the vents in some of our short for staying cool. Cheers.


    Please keep your feedback coming the more the better and if I have missed anything please let me have it.
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    Wow, what a great response. It's really nice to see companies actively seeking feedback like this.

    Now I was thinking ... I also ride dirt bikes (as in motorized) and I've had several great pairs of pants with clever waist adjustments. I know this is a totally different style and it is designed for heavier materials, but the ones I liked best for fit had a pair of velcro waist tabs at each side, and a simple ratchet belt closure. Perhaps that was to accommodate different hip/waist builds? Either way, it worked, and allowed for adjustment based on thickness of under layers, and monthly weight fluctuations.

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    Thank you for your participation and inquiries. At first I thought the initial post was spam and I am happy to be proved wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loeka
    So I am going to answer yes we now make shorts that fit girls with curves and the same shorts will fit girls with no curves. From your comments they would be true baggies.

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    I know having elastic at the back is very old fashioned but for right now it is the best solution we have found, working on another right now. Shhhh.
    I understand your company has to work within the economies of scale. Personally I have no issues with a bit of elastic provided it's not really bulky. It seems a reasonable accomodation, especially since so many ladies may have issues bloating or retaining water from time to time. Having mini-belt cinchers along the waistline also helps, although they tend to slip rather annoyingly.

    I have more of an issue with tops than shorts, mostly because I just buy lycra shorts and then wear any shorts over it that I can find that fit that usually aren't any kind of exercise clothing.

    If you will look at your sizing chart for tops, it isn't very clear. Are the measurements for the actual size of the garment or who it's supposed to fit? Is the chest measurement for midriff or bust? Or is that supposed to be bra band size? What does the waist size mean -- because now that tight laced corsets are out of fashion not very many people have a 16" waist. Same for bottom width. It also would help to know arm hole opening size.

    I would guess that (using the XS as an example) that the chest is 32" diameter in the bust, the waist is 32" in diameter and the hips 33," but that makes no sense for a women's garment. That's just a tube; it's not fitted at all.

    I haven't tried your product and frankly, I'm not going to if I have to pay for the product and shipping, then $10 for an exchange plus the cost and insurance of shipping them back internationally. Plus, according to the returns policy, you can only exchange sizes, and there's a high liklihood NONE of the sizes would work for me... I try on a lot of clothes before I find ones that fit. That's a lot of money to end up with something that still doesn't fit.

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    I used to wear lycra shorts but after a few ugly crashes that bashed up knees & thighs, I've settled on knickers. It's the perfect balance of comfort & protection. My current favorite knickers are by Harlot. They are stretchy in key areas yet abrasion-resistant. The chamois is surprisingly smooth & comfy. Nothing to dig into the waist or irritate.

    I guess I'm supposed to be reviewing Loeka gear, but I can't. I looked at your knickers with some interest, but they don't seem intended for xc use.

    My feedback would be to try to develop some great, padded knickers for us xc'ers. I don't need no freakin' belt loops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleC
    Thank you for your participation and inquiries. At first I thought the initial post was spam and I am happy to be proved wrong.



    I understand your company has to work within the economies of scale. Personally I have no issues with a bit of elastic provided it's not really bulky. It seems a reasonable accomodation, especially since so many ladies may have issues bloating or retaining water from time to time. Having mini-belt cinchers along the waistline also helps, although they tend to slip rather annoyingly.

    I have more of an issue with tops than shorts, mostly because I just buy lycra shorts and then wear any shorts over it that I can find that fit that usually aren't any kind of exercise clothing.

    If you will look at your sizing chart for tops, it isn't very clear. Are the measurements for the actual size of the garment or who it's supposed to fit? Is the chest measurement for midriff or bust? Or is that supposed to be bra band size? What does the waist size mean -- because now that tight laced corsets are out of fashion not very many people have a 16" waist. Same for bottom width. It also would help to know arm hole opening size.

    I would guess that (using the XS as an example) that the chest is 32" diameter in the bust, the waist is 32" in diameter and the hips 33," but that makes no sense for a women's garment. That's just a tube; it's not fitted at all.

    I haven't tried your product and frankly, I'm not going to if I have to pay for the product and shipping, then $10 for an exchange plus the cost and insurance of shipping them back internationally. Plus, according to the returns policy, you can only exchange sizes, and there's a high liklihood NONE of the sizes would work for me... I try on a lot of clothes before I find ones that fit. That's a lot of money to end up with something that still doesn't fit.

    If you want people to try your clothes, you have to make it easier for them to take a chance on you.

    Hi Nicole,

    Thanks for all the great feedback. We will get moving on sorting out the jersey sizing chart so it is more clear. Our jerseys are fitted and taper out at the bottom to allow for waist and hips. It appears our sizing chart for the jerseys has some mistakes, and is not clear we will get that updated right away. We are in the process of doing a video to show case our fit as well, and help ladies ordering choose the correct size the first time. We understand that shipping is expensive, so we are trying to minimize it as much as possible.

    Shipping by USPS ground international should not cost more than $10 and if I am not mistaken there is an automatic insurance of $100. It just takes 2-3 weeks to arrive. I know shipping from the USA to Canada is a lot cheaper than the reverse. Not sure why.


    Please keep the feedback coming. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firecrackerktm
    Wow, what a great response. It's really nice to see companies actively seeking feedback like this.

    Now I was thinking ... I also ride dirt bikes (as in motorized) and I've had several great pairs of pants with clever waist adjustments. I know this is a totally different style and it is designed for heavier materials, but the ones I liked best for fit had a pair of velcro waist tabs at each side, and a simple ratchet belt closure. Perhaps that was to accommodate different hip/waist builds? Either way, it worked, and allowed for adjustment based on thickness of under layers, and monthly weight fluctuations.

    Hi Firecracker,

    Coreena also rides dirtbikes, but rides hers in our tech pants. She does not have any other companies pants. But we will look into those features as well. Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyDi
    I used to wear lycra shorts but after a few ugly crashes that bashed up knees & thighs, I've settled on knickers. It's the perfect balance of comfort & protection. My current favorite knickers are by Harlot. They are stretchy in key areas yet abrasion-resistant. The chamois is surprisingly smooth & comfy. Nothing to dig into the waist or irritate.

    I guess I'm supposed to be reviewing Loeka gear, but I can't. I looked at your knickers with some interest, but they don't seem intended for xc use.

    My feedback would be to try to develop some great, padded knickers for us xc'ers. I don't need no freakin' belt loops.

    Hi LadyDi,

    Thanks for the feedback. We have designed our Tech Shorts, to be our all mountain/XC shorts. They do not come with a chamois or pad. They have been designed to fit over your own chamois. This way girls can wear them for XC riding and downhill if they choose. They have a short that can do both. The reason we gave them belt loops is for the girls who want to add a belt or need to add a belt to cinch the waist. The feedback so far has been good, the girls find that if they wear a belt for XC or DH riding the belt does not dig in. If they are wearing a chamois the built in side vents keep them nice and cool.

    We appreciate the feedback, keep it coming. Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loeka
    Hi Firecracker,

    Coreena also rides dirtbikes, but rides hers in our tech pants. She does not have any other companies pants. But we will look into those features as well. Cheers.
    Oh cool. Let's see, I have a pair of Troy Lees, MSRs, a really old pair of Fox, and my favorites (no longer imported) the Acerbis. All are women's fit. The TLD and Acerbis have no waist adjustment at the closure; instead they use a double heavy duty snap at the fly, and two velcro tabs at either hip to adjust the fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleC
    No, it isn't easy... but ignoring any under-served market is also leaving money on the table.
    Sure, in some cases, if the scale is there. There are a lot of minimums that a company has to meet in order to get great clothing made, and the production lag time puts some significant strain on small budgets.

    I am really interested to see what happens at Interbike this year. OR was empty. Not sure if that is because no one is taking extra staff members to the show or if it actually indicates a huge secondary slowdown. My hope is that the amount of business done is the same as pervious years, and that the amount of partying is the only decrease. It is going to be interesting to see how full the IB aisles are and if business is good there.

    It is my belief that there will be some very tough "thinning of the herd" events over the next couple of years. There has been a significant increase in the number of women's specific clothing companies over the last 4 years (Harlot, Loeka, Sheila Moon...) and just about every major manufacturer has a women's line, too. I am not sure that the current women's market can support all of them and we may lose some participants. Going to be an interesting few years in the sports industries...
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    About the only company out there, aside from the 100% custom biz, that can address all these different needs is Beyond Fleece, which is a semi custom shop. This is not bike gear, but it is an interesting concept. They have a few basic styles, and then with the input of measurements, create a custom garment for you. They specialize in soft shell items.

    The economy of scale that Chuky mentions is a very real issue for addressing specific needs. That's where a company has to filter out all the options that people want, and start looking at, what is ( potentially) the most marketable and the most feasible to sell the minimums needed for cost of development/production. Off all the gals that say, "I want xx", how many would actually pay full tag price on it if it were available?

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    Considering the obscene amount of money most women spend on bras who are in difficult sizes, and the fanatic brand loyalty thereof, I think most biker women would cough up the dough for a good fit. I would.

    But the reality is one only needs so many bike clothes, and if they are well made -- and they need to be, to command that price -- they potentially last for years.

    On the other hand, how many millions of plus size workout pants get sold? I know if I were starting an exercise clothing business right now I wouldn't be focused on fitting the perfect athletic body... 'cause frankly there aren't many of them out there and most of those ladies fit into much cheaper men's clothing just fine.
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    I tried to diagram the women's market demands. I couldn't make it work. The men's market was easy.
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    Sleeveless (and no pink crap). Norcal is hot.

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