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    GIRO Switchblade Failure

    Ended up going OTB today after hitting a soft spot on a berm and the chin bar of the switchblade broke off, leaving me with gnarly rock rash across my lower face.

    In the photos, you can see the red retaining clip on the left side of the helmet completely broke off, allowing the chin guard to fold down and expose my face to the earth. The helmet is three rides/four weeks old.

    Just an FYI for those looking at removable chin bar helmets - I'm not sure I'd recommend them.

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    And this is precisely why I didn't get one of those. Much better to get a ventilated permanent full face like the MET Parachute or the Fox Proframe.

    You make it out ok?

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    For the most part, yeah.

    OTB-casued injuries include a bloody left wrist & knee and an angled series of slashes on my chest.

    Giro-failure-caused injury includes a gash in my upper lip and rock rash on lower lip/chin (see below).

    But hey, its better than it would've been had I still been riding with my Fox Flux and it stopped the rock from breaking my jaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gckless View Post
    And this is precisely why I didn't get one of those. Much better to get a ventilated permanent full face like the MET Parachute or the Fox Proframe.

    You make it out ok?
    Hey but you keep reading how their internal tests indicate they'd meet 1952.

    Just like you I went for a Parachute over the Super2r
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    Wow......it's like 1998 all over again.

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    Damn, that sucks. Like others have posted, I'm favoring the new Fox or the Parachute instead of getting something with a removable chin guard.

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    Not really sure I'm willing to extrapolate the performance of the Giro include 2R's. I certainly wouldn't replace a normal full face with a 2R, but I'm pretty confident my 2R will leave me in better shape than a Fox Flux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    Not really sure I'm willing to extrapolate the performance of the Giro include 2R's. I certainly wouldn't replace a normal full face with a 2R, but I'm pretty confident my 2R will leave me in better shape than a Fox Flux.
    Why not? 2R isn't certified and the new switchblade, which it looks like, is 1952 certified.

    The MET is well enough ventilated that you'd gain nothing from removing the chin bar other than making it weaker. The Fox looks like it might be close, but again the Chin bar doesn't look like that part that would make it a warm helmet.
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    It's an entirely different helmet. That's like saying if something broke on your Toyota, that it'll also break on your Honda. The attachment system for the 2R looks quite a bit more substantial.

    Also, the MET is a two piece helmet. It isn't a single piece shell like a Fox Rampage, the chin bar is entirely separate and attached with 2 rivets on each side. I'd put just as much faith in the MET as a 2R, which is to say plenty, but neither are a true full face helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    It's an entirely different helmet. That's like saying if something broke on your Toyota, that it'll also break on your Honda. The attachment system for the 2R looks quite a bit more substantial.

    Also, the MET is a two piece helmet. It isn't a single piece shell like a Fox Rampage, the chin bar is entirely separate and attached with 2 rivets on each side. I'd put just as much faith in the MET as a 2R, which is to say plenty, but neither are a true full face helmet.
    That's your prerogative, I disagree.
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    I just snapped the chin bar on my super 3r. Their definitely not made for abuse. But I think they have a place in the market if your doing long climbs and need the extra airflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossy View Post
    I just snapped the chin bar on my super 3r. Their definitely not made for abuse. But I think they have a place in the market if your doing long climbs and need the extra airflow.
    What extra air flow? Have you even tried a Parachute?
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    Well mate when you remove the chin bar to climb you get extra airflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossy View Post
    Well mate when you remove the chin bar to climb you get extra airflow.
    My MET doesn't restrict airflow is the point. I actually find it better ventilated than many of the expensive 1/2 domes I've had over the years.
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    I ordered the MET - it seemed to be a pretty solid thing and the crash tests in a German magazine werde really good. It just didn't fit me - the chin bar was way too high for my longish face. It's a pity - nice helmet otherwise.

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    To the OP, what if you were NOT wearing any type of chin protection? Do you think the injuries would have been worse? I've been wondering about this lately. Yes, the chin guards aren't going to be the replacement to a full DH helmet but maybe you saved yourself from breaking your jaw? It had to help in some sort, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNKER View Post
    To the OP, what if you were NOT wearing any type of chin protection? Do you think the injuries would have been worse? I've been wondering about this lately. Yes, the chin guards aren't going to be the replacement to a full DH helmet but maybe you saved yourself from breaking your jaw? It had to help in some sort, right?
    I definitely agree. As I said in the last paragraph of my second post, it's a lot better than it wouldve been, had I not had any chin protection.

    However, I've found other reports matching my issue and don't agree with the DH rating that the helmet received and is marketed as having. The chin bar tends to fold down in an impact on the Switchblade helmets. It can be like mine where I rashed my chin, or another user, where it hit him in the throat during the crash.

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    Yeah. I was wondering if they'd fold back on people's throats. Interesting.

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    Another failure to report. I had a crash in my switchblade on Saturday, the chinguard broke off and exposed my face to the ground giving me some abrasions on my face. It appears that the layer of the helmet where the retaining clips insert separated from the rest of the helmet (looks to be glued together) and allowed the chinguard to come off. I spoke to Giro about the problem and was told it was totally possible for the chinguard to break off in a crash and they didn't sound surprised. Seems pretty questionable that a "downhill worthy" convertible full face is known to its manufacturer to have the possibility of the chinguard breaking off. I for one will not recommend this helmet to anyone in the future.

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