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    Five. Ten's

    I'm considering returning these shoes that I just recently purchased. It feels like there might be a bit too much play with the gaps between the gums of the shoe.


    I don't ride SPD and I am considering getting some Low Impact Five. Ten shoes.
    My question is, how are they on a hot day?
    I live on the Central Coast of California, and we get some mild weather in the 70s and 80s. I'll certainly be riding during this summertime, and it can get up to the 90s and low 100s in some areas. I've got some Smartwool socks and a few other running socks that have good ventilation that helps protect from sweaty-swamp foot. But how do these hold up?
    I've got some Straitline platform pedals on my bike. Feel like I should just state that.

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    The 5-10 shoes are great.
    I have a couple pairs of Impact Low.
    Haven't really had a problems with them being too hot, but I tend to not ride much when it gets over 90.
    Proper socks when it gets hot outside is going to be important with any shoe.
    The padding on the Impacts is very thick, yet light weight, and seems to vent pretty well.
    I like em so much, I actually bought a second pair for work shoes.
    The stiff sole supports are great after a long day walking around on tile/concrete in the bike shop.
    I should add that my feet don't really get hot like some peoples do, so YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann View Post
    The 5-10 shoes are great.
    I have a couple pairs of Impact Low.
    Haven't really had a problems with them being too hot, but I tend to not ride much when it gets over 90.
    Proper socks when it gets hot outside is going to be important with any shoe.
    The padding on the Impacts is very thick, yet light weight, and seems to vent pretty well.
    I like em so much, I actually bought a second pair for work shoes.
    The stiff sole supports are great after a long day walking around on tile/concrete in the bike shop.
    I should add that my feet don't really get hot like some peoples do, so YMMV.
    Last night, before your response, I decided I would get them. I appreciate the extra insight.
    My feet do not tend to be the kind that sweat a whole lot, so I don't think it will be a big problem. I have plenty of smartwool socks, and from what I have heard and from experience, those fight off sweat.

    I thought a little more about riding in the 90s, and I realized I'll probably just have down days when it gets like that. It tends to stay cooler on the coastal areas, it is just inland that gets really hot.

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    Cool deal.
    I wear wool socks year round.
    I have super thin ones for hot days, and thick ones for when it is cold and or wet, and other varying thicknesses for mild climates.
    Wool socks are the best!!!! My feet never get stinky when I wear em.

    I live inland, and it can get pretty hot here in the Bay Area.
    It's not uncommon for it get get above 100 in the middle of summer.
    Thats why all my buddies and I have stocked up on good light systems, since we do most of our riding in summer during the evenings.

    Let us know how you like the 5-10's.
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    Regularly riding in 100* weather here in Austin, rocking the high-top Rennies that were on Chainlove a few years back...don't notice them to be too hot, and they are overbuilt high top skate style shoes...
    That being said, they just saw their last ride and some Spitfires showed up here over the weekend.

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    Nice.
    I just wish they made their whole lineup of shoes in size 14.
    I really want a pair of spitfires.
    They only have select models in 14 though......= (
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    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann View Post
    Cool deal.
    I wear wool socks year round.
    I have super thin ones for hot days, and thick ones for when it is cold and or wet, and other varying thicknesses for mild climates.
    Wool socks are the best!!!! My feet never get stinky when I wear em.

    I live inland, and it can get pretty hot here in the Bay Area.
    It's not uncommon for it get get above 100 in the middle of summer.
    Thats why all my buddies and I have stocked up on good light systems, since we do most of our riding in summer during the evenings.

    Let us know how you like the 5-10's.
    A few years back I stocked up on a dozen Smartwool socks, and they are all still worn by me. Got a couple of other brands too. They really are helpful.

    And I'll let you know how they are. Either returning them today or tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann View Post
    Nice.
    I just wish they made their whole lineup of shoes in size 14.
    I really want a pair of spitfires.
    They only have select models in 14 though......= (
    have you checked out Vans' Gravel? og skate style but 5.10 sticky. it's their mtb flat pedal shoe not their Warner spud shoe. same price..

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    Got some Freerider 5 10s, going to see how they are. They had some really bad ratings on the reviews, but there were only three written up. I've disagreed with reviews before, but I hope I didn't make a mistake on these. I didn't get the Impact ones because they didn't have size 12 in stock and I felt like being impatient.

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    Love my freeriders. Absolutely no complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim-H View Post
    Love my freeriders. Absolutely no complaints.
    That's good to hear. I just went on a ride with them and enjoyed them so much that I doubled back up the hill I came down and did it again. I only intended to do a short ride, but it became a little bit longer. They really do grip amazingly upon my Straitline pedals.

    You should write up a review on them in the review section to bring up the rating on them so that people interested in 5 10 shoes are not automatically dissuaded from purchasing them. I know I will be writing one in a few more rides time.

    Here's a link to make it easier
    http://www.mtbr.com/cat/mtb-apparel-...46_144crx.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    I'm considering returning these shoes that I just recently purchased. It feels like there might be a bit too much play with the gaps between the gums of the shoe.
    Are those Inov8s?

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    im very happy with the freeriders. i have about 5 rides in them. you have to lift your foot off the pedals to re-position them.

    has anyone tried the Vans Gravel shoe? id like to get my girlfriend a good platform pedal shoe that arent as thick as the 5.10s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAUMAhead View Post
    Are those Inov8s?
    Yeah, they are. They're great shoes in my opinion, I just didn't like the fit on the pedal. That much should have initially been obvious because of the gaps on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by bigfruits View Post
    im very happy with the freeriders. i have about 5 rides in them. you have to lift your foot off the pedals to re-position them.

    has anyone tried the Vans Gravel shoe? id like to get my girlfriend a good platform pedal shoe that arent as thick as the 5.10s...
    I haven't tried the Gravel shoe, but you should write a review on your 5 10 Freerider shoes.
    They have a 1.5/5 on here, and it would be great to have more informative reviews so the 1.5 doesn't dissuade people. The only problem I see possible with mine is the stitching coming undone, but I believe that is covered under warranty.
    I'm going to write up my review somewhat soon, once I have more rides in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfruits View Post
    im very happy with the freeriders. i have about 5 rides in them. you have to lift your foot off the pedals to re-position them.

    has anyone tried the Vans Gravel shoe? id like to get my girlfriend a good platform pedal shoe that arent as thick as the 5.10s...
    me.about 5 mos & love 'em! use Impacts also. Use the Vans just as much. switch from full sus trail to dj 4X bike to skate longboards! no worries. Really light shoe. I almost went with another pair of 510s, the freeriders but took a chance on these. Not quite the support/stiffness as a pair of Impacts but i feel more versatile than the Freeriders. plus ol skool plain classic Vans style. yes, they're sticky. don't remember what they call the compound they use.

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    love the 5-10 Sam Hills

    I have tried trail shoes and spds and I really like the Sam Hills. They stick and food stays planted and when I have to hike a bike I dont have to worry about rocks wedged in the bottom. Buy the right tool/apparrel for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    You should write up a review on them in the review section to bring up the rating ...[/url]
    Will do. I think i originally planned to after I had a few rides in, just slipped my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kooshbal View Post
    I have tried trail shoes and spds and I really like the Sam Hills. They stick and food stays planted and when I have to hike a bike I dont have to worry about rocks wedged in the bottom. Buy the right tool/apparrel for the job.
    Definitely. My friend rides in som vans that are so old that the grips on the bottom are completely smoothed out. I'm sure he'll buy a new pair soon, at least I hope he does. I had heard that the Sam Hill shoes were just Impact ones that had been colored differently. Does anyone know whether this is fact or jus a rumor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim-H View Post
    Will do. I think i originally planned to after I had a few rides in, just slipped my mind.
    Can't blame you, I had to write it down on a sticky note to remember. I sure have a lot of sticky notes sitting around.

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    The Impact low and Sam Hill and very similar. They have the exact same sole on them. The only difference is the outer materials that the shoe is made from and the Sam Hill has a higher ankle guard just by a few cm. Personally I like the look of the Hill's a lot better.

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    At my local shuttle mountain, pretty much 1 out of 2 DH riders is on five tens. Everyone i have talked to loves them but say they take a while to get used to. Mainly when they take a foot off and then put it back on the pedal it is so grippy that it's hard to adjust your foot placement if you don't get it right when you put your foot back on. My experience is limited to trying on a buddies shoes and riding a parking lot but I could definitely feel that is had much more grip than my skate shoes.

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    My 5.10 Freeriders stink after a ride, but never get soggy with sweat, in recent 90+F SoCal weather. The only time they get uncomfortable is when they fill up with sand, gravel, thorns, and other bits of nature. I wear NLZwear socks with them. They usually lose the smell for the next ride, after airing them out overnight.

    I'm getting the Karvers when these die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    My 5.10 Freeriders stink after a ride, but never get soggy with sweat, in recent 90+F SoCal weather. The only time they get uncomfortable is when they fill up with sand, gravel, thorns, and other bits of nature. I wear NLZwear socks with them. They usually lose the smell for the next ride, after airing them out overnight.

    I'm getting the Karvers when these die.
    I usually leave mine outside at night and spray them with some antibacterial stuff the next day.
    I do notice that more of the trail ends up inside of them compared to my nike running shoes, but I definitely enjoy the grip more.
    You should write up a review on what you think of them. They had a rather bad rep for a while.

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    I have recently gone back to flats and am real interested in the 5 10's. Just can't decide which one. Almost every shoe I had for awhile was black, so not really wanting the Impact's. Looking more at the Baron, Sam Hill's, Grey Freerider's, and the Tennie's. Any thoughts on the differences in these guys? I'm kinda leaning towards the Tennie's, then I waffle.

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    I recommend the Karvers. They have a sole that seems better shaped to grip the pedals (like the Impact; Freeriders are flat like skate shoes) and have a more durable build overall. Only $20 more, but you get a much longer lasting shoe and more grip and protection. Easy to clean--I wet it with a hose, hit it with a soapy brush real quick, and rinse with a hose again. Less crap gets inside and the annoying pricker thingees don't have much to stick to. More ankle support too, for those odd rear tire first landings off of 5'+ drops in which you can't use much of your upper body to absorb the impact.

    This is what the Freerider looks like after a day out in SoCal trails in the summer sometimes. Notice the hole my toe blew out in the left shoe (counts as tearing and not eligible for warranty). Compared to a set of Karvers after a quick rinse.

    Can get them on sale at HucknRoll using a $20 off $100 coupon. HnR only has the blue ones (newest model), but the red ones look cool.
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    I would recommend Karvers. I like my freeriders a lot, but the Karver has some obvious advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    I recommend the Karvers. They have a sole that seems better shaped to grip the pedals (like the Impact; Freeriders are flat like skate shoes) and have a more durable build overall. Only $20 more, but you get a much longer lasting shoe and more grip and protection. Easy to clean--I wet it with a hose, hit it with a soapy brush real quick, and rinse with a hose again. Less crap gets inside and the annoying pricker thingees don't have much to stick to. More ankle support too, for those odd rear tire first landings off of 5'+ drops in which you can't use much of your upper body to absorb the impact.

    This is what the Freerider looks like after a day out in SoCal trails in the summer sometimes. Notice the hole my toe blew out in the left shoe (counts as tearing and not eligible for warranty). Compared to a set of Karvers after a quick rinse.

    Can get them on sale at HucknRoll using a $20 off $100 coupon. HnR only has the blue ones (newest model), but the red ones look cool.
    Hey, check that out...two Ninja's in a row!!! So I guess most don't think of the Tennies much. I just started laughing when I saw those pics. Those Freeriders are hurting. The Karver's look so damn heavy, but some say it is a "good" kind of heavy, I suppose. I really like the red Karver's, and they match my 26er, but I can't find them.
    Are the Baron's basically Freeriders, and any thoughts on the Shimano AM45.

    Looks like if I can't find the red K's, I'll just have to get the blues. damn...

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    Tennie? That has a non-mtb specific sole. It's C4 and not S1. Not sure what the difference is, but I'd call up Five Ten to ask if I were you. Their site just says it's made for climbing. Maybe they'll know who sells the older model Karvers.

    Baron seems to be just another color/fabric/cut scheme that has the general shape/design of the Freerider. The Blk/Grey has mesh in all the black areas, more suitable for high breathability (XC riding). The others are perforated leather. There's probably close to a dozen different styles by now.

    On a, not so accurate in this weight range, digital bathroom scale, a pair of karver's weighed in at 2.2 lbs for the pair. Pair of very worn Impact lows 2.0 lbs. Freerider Blk/Grey 1.8 lbs. Impact Highs are reported to be 727g, Impact Low 510g, and Freerider 409g per shoe. The Karvers don't look much bulkier than the Impact Lows. On closer inspection, it is an Impact Low, with a higher inner ankle flap and a lace cover.

    Not sure about the other models, but if you want your Five Tens to last a while, don't wear them casually. Their soles get worn down fast from just walking, especially the ones made for just gripping pedals (and I assume ones made for gripping skateboards, rocks or whatever else).
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    I have a pair of the Karvers and recommend them as a DH and Freeride shoe. For everyday trail riding something like the Barons would be better.

    Has anyone tried the new Vans Gravel shoe? It is supposed to have a similar rubber compound to the 5.10's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toyotachaos View Post
    I have a pair of the Karvers and recommend them as a DH and Freeride shoe. For everyday trail riding something like the Barons would be better.

    Has anyone tried the new Vans Gravel shoe? It is supposed to have a similar rubber compound to the 5.10's.
    My friend should be getting a pair soon, I'll let you know what he thinks of them.

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    Also, anyone knows the weight on these Vans Gravel shoes?

    I have the low impacts 5.10 but only used it once. Works perfect when descending but I ride more xc type of riding which has a lot of long steep climbs and the impacts are just way too heavy for what I need them. So I use vans like shoes but I'm looking for a pair that has a harder & lighter sole, (300-350 grams/pair) than your casual vans shoes.

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    I'm pretty damn frustrated with FiveTen. I left an email with their customer service a week or two ago and haven't heard a peep from them. I left another one recently and still haven't heard. I looked all over for their phone number, which you can't find easily, but when I did find a number for their customer service, I get a recording saying it is an "incorrect number or code". Frustrating and irritating. I may just move on to another brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokehouse4444 View Post
    I'm pretty damn frustrated with FiveTen. I left an email with their customer service a week or two ago and haven't heard a peep from them. I left another one recently and still haven't heard. I looked all over for their phone number, which you can't find easily, but when I did find a number for their customer service, I get a recording saying it is an "incorrect number or code". Frustrating and irritating. I may just move on to another brand.
    Contact Joel @ 909-798-4222 x829
    joel.rocha@fiveten.com

    This is the contact information for the rep that responded to me.

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    Thanks so much for the heads up. I just talked to him...really nice guy. Begins to get frustrating when you have to try so hard just to ask a quick question. Just didn't want to spend a hundred bucks and one month later have something in a style/color that I really want come out. He's going to look into a few things and give me a shout back. Again, thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokehouse4444 View Post
    Thanks so much for the heads up. I just talked to him...really nice guy. Begins to get frustrating when you have to try so hard just to ask a quick question. Just didn't want to spend a hundred bucks and one month later have something in a style/color that I really want come out. He's going to look into a few things and give me a shout back. Again, thanks for the info.
    Every day is a fashion day!

    Honestly, I can see being pissed over color on a $2k frame, or a product (shoe) failure, but that was a lot of frustration over a shoe color!

    Good luck, hope he can help ya....

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    Nah man, not like, "I'm gonna slice my wrists I'm so done with this" kind of frustrated. Just some slight grumpiness. Thanks for the info.

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    5-10 high tops. 2 years of usage. Grip is 2nd to none.
    However, the lace loops are weak, crap design. I've had to resort to using a metal scribe to
    make new holes, to run the laces through the uppers, in order to continue using these shoes.

    Why not implement a "toe cap" as well?? Steel, aluminum, or ABS. Having 13.5 claws makes me an easy candidate for toe strikes.

    Been eyeing these....

    http://www.skechers.com/style/76760/...ide-dexter/bbk

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    Actually, he asked me if I had any suggestions. I would love to see a Karver-type shoe built very tough around the toes and edges, with a flap over the strings and stealth rubber, but with a much cooler upper design for those in really hot weather areas. I ride regularly in 100+ degree heat, but rarely ride through water. In fact, most trails close down when it rains because of the trail destruction that occurs. If you go through water, it is normally quickly down and out through a creek bed.

    While deciding which Five Tens I wanted to buy, one of the shoes reminded me a bit of some really old, beat-up Reebok High Top Aerobic/indoor court shoes that I still had in the garage. I've been using those 10lb weights for a couple of weeks now, and they don't work too badly. Better stick than my hiking shoes I had been wearing, but much heavier, hotter, and uglier...sheeesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokehouse4444 View Post
    Actually,
    Hey smokey,
    So which model came out in a new offering? Just out of curiosity...
    ...
    in ATX too here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    Hey smokey,
    So which model came out in a new offering? Just out of curiosity...
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    in ATX too here.
    Cool, I've probably seen you out here and there. We are indeed lucky with all of the trails we have around the Central Texas area.

    No one model really. I recently decided to just go back to flats, and I am so glad that I did. I am really having so much more fun, and riding better as well. While looking into good flats, I started really looking into the good shoes, and of course FiveTens came up as well as Vans and Shimano. I had been riding with just a pair of Columbia low top hiking shoes. As shallow as it sounds, I have so many black shoes of all kinds, I just didn't want black MTB shoes, so the Impacts were probably out. Looked into the Freeriders, Guide Tennies, and Karvers...pretty much decided on the Karvers. Recently I saw the Pamplona that I think is new. I have seen a lot of company's coming out with some of their 2012 stuff, and thought that I would check what the 2012 Karver's were going to be about before buying some. I just didn't want to plunk down over $100 on some new ones, then the 12's come out and I wish I had waited because I like them better.

    By the way, what do you think of these? These are the old Reeboks I pulled out of the garage and have been wearing recently.






    Rode them with this bike today at Reimer's.





    Cracks me up. I even wore a Dirt Lid so I could be even more ridiculous. That thing weighs like 45lbs. It is truly...The Tank. It certainly makes you work.

    Anyway, I'm hoping to have a pair of FiveTen's soon. Really looking forward to how sticky they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudster View Post
    5-10 high tops. 2 years of usage. Grip is 2nd to none.
    However, the lace loops are weak, crap design. I've had to resort to using a metal scribe to
    make new holes, to run the laces through the uppers, in order to continue using these shoes.

    Why not implement a "toe cap" as well?? Steel, aluminum, or ABS. Having 13.5 claws makes me an easy candidate for toe strikes.

    Been eyeing these....

    http://www.skechers.com/style/76760/...ide-dexter/bbk
    The problem I see with those shoes is the arch. Obviously, good arch support is a great thing to have. A solution to this is putting a shoe insert into a Five Ten or any other mountain bike specific shoe. The advantage of having flat bottom shoes is not having to play around so much to find a good grip. With those, it seems you have to find somewhere on the toes or on the heels. I usually ride with the arch of my foot just about centered on the middle of the pedal. Gotta love Straitlines

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    Has anyone bothered to order the Maltese Falcon's? I ordered some from CRC in May and they have never been instock. Talked to someone from FiveTen and the guy told me that they have no idea what's going on, as they haven't received their shipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toyotachaos View Post
    I have a pair of the Karvers and recommend them as a DH and Freeride shoe. For everyday trail riding something like the Barons would be better.

    Has anyone tried the new Vans Gravel shoe? It is supposed to have a similar rubber compound to the 5.10's.
    I just had a short ride in the Gravel shoe & I like them. The soles are sticky to the touch and on the pedals (Straitline). I've never worn 5.10's so cannot compare. Also the shoes are stiff for climbing or standing and hammering. I think they're definitely the most comfortable Vans I've ever worn. I'm using them for riding only to keep the soles from wearing down. The body of the shoe seems to very durable, much more than the usual Vans shoe (I've worn the Malones for riding for nearly 2 years & Black Widow for day-to-day). Got mine from Huck n Roll.

    Also the Gravel shoe is lighter weight then my Black Widow shoe.

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    I went ahead and ordered the Karver's. I'll let you guys know my thoughts on them as soon as I can.

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    I rolled my ankle in the Karver on my last ride when I went through a rock garden way too slow (wasn't sure of which line to take) and set my foot down in order to stop/slow down and regain control.

    I'd recommend using all the lace holes, even the top 2, and not keep them loose enough to slip into them, already tied, like slippers. It wasn't bad; it hurt to put pressure on it, but 5 minutes of walking or pedaling and the natural pain killers kicked in, but whenever I took a break, the pain started up again the moment I put weight on it. I woke up with it swelled up and then a day or two later swelling and pain is down to a minimum.

    I imagine it would've been worse in the Freeriders or a skate shoe that has practically no ankle support.

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    Just got a pair of Hellcat SPD 5.10's. I wanted the option to run SPD's or not. Trying them on platforms first. Looking forward to testing them out this weekend.
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    IS the SPD section recessed so they don't come in contact with pedal pins? I may try those out next year (probably much later) when I finally decide to try clipless. I'm afraid if I bought clipless shoes & didn't like riding clipless, then the shoes/clips would just be wasted money so definitely would want the option of wearing the shoes on platforms... plus the Hellcats are really nice lookin'.

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    Yes. In the bottom pic what you see is the filler plate. That plate comes out and is replaced by the clip if you use it. But the clip would still be recessed just like that portion of tread is so it would not touch the platform pedal or the ground when walking on cement. I'm getting my clips today so I'll install them and snap some pics after for you.

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    Can anyone tell me how the hellcats feel when you don't use them with cleats? I love the design of teh upper but don't want to run clipless. Wish they made one with a normal sole, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    I rolled my ankle in the Karver on my last ride when I went through a rock garden way too slow (wasn't sure of which line to take) and set my foot down in order to stop/slow down and regain control.

    I'd recommend using all the lace holes, even the top 2, and not keep them loose enough to slip into them, already tied, like slippers. It wasn't bad; it hurt to put pressure on it, but 5 minutes of walking or pedaling and the natural pain killers kicked in, but whenever I took a break, the pain started up again the moment I put weight on it. I woke up with it swelled up and then a day or two later swelling and pain is down to a minimum.

    I imagine it would've been worse in the Freeriders or a skate shoe that has practically no ankle support.
    I will definitely keep the laces tight. Ive had enough rolled ankles from years and years of basketball. Dont care for anymore. Supposed to get the Karvers tomorrow.

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    I have just bought a pair of impact lows. They are so great! Really sticky, comfortable and whatever anyone says ... they're actually quite light. (i was using walking boots before)
    Only thing am worried about is the rubber is already getting a bit ripped. but it'll be a while before it affects the performance i expect
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