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    Just got a pair of the MT-52 shoes as I was looking for a good shoe that I could ride AM / Freeride / XC with and these are nice shimano shoes for an excellent price. They are good bike / hike shoes too as they don't have that annoying 'cleat crunch' when you are walking around. They are comfortable too. Looking forward to a long ride with them, and I'm not sure about durability, but the price is right and I needed some new kicks and they seem to fit the bill for me.

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well

    Ended up calling Lake themselves. According to the customer service lady Lake has discontinued the MX 165's for North America for 2011, saying they want to streamline thier MTB shoe line here to the MX85's and 170's only. So if anybody was considering them you had better go find them soon.

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    I just got some of the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seek IV. They are still pretty new so I can't say anything for durability. I really like the hard sole, and they are very comfortable walking around. They look great too.


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    I've had the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Enduro II for a year and they put up with everything here in AZ pretty well. They take a lot of abuse and keep going, I haven't had any major issues, the only flaw I can find is the soles. The soles on these shoes get chewed up too easily in the terrain here.

    This is what they look like a year later, after some wear and tear from many hike-a-bikes over abrasive central-AZ terrain. I've decided to go with something with a tougher sole for my next pair of mtb shoes. I've had hiking boots take far more abuse than this and last for many years, I want something just as tough as my hiking boots on my hike-a-bikes. Those Vibram soles on some shoes look promising, still looking, great thread!

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    Any more experiences with the Enduro oriented Mavics? Specifically the Mavic Mantra?

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    This is exactly the thread I have been looking for. Been riding my bike a lot lately and my lower legs are getting shredded by my Wellgo MG-1s (brand new pins). Anyways, once I find work I will be purchasing clipless setup and wondering what shoes to get. My LBS sells Shimano and Pearl Izumi and I have a Pearl Izumi store nearby so those are my real main choices (refuse to go to the local Spec/Trek shop). As I will be just starting out on clipless is it a better idea to go with the Shiman PD520 pedals or should I just go straight for the Crank Brothers Eggbeaters/Candy's? Where I live is the High Desert so there is lots of sand, loose gravel and sharp rocks that can reek havoc on rubber soles. I love Vibram rubber and actually have been using a pair of their Five Fingers for over a year now, if they made a MTN bike oriented pair I would be all over them. Anyways, I want to make sure that the soles can hold up to the punishment that our great region and put down on these poor shoes. Also, I wear about a 10.5 to 11 shoe (depending on brand/model) so would I be better with a 44 or a 45?

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    I recommend the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Enduro with straps and Crank Brothers pedals. I ride the Bend OR trails regularly plus the soft stuff around Portland and my road bike all with the same shoes. I actually use Crank Brother Mallet clipless platform pedals on my mountain bike to make it easier to ride un-clipped in scary bits and to give me some extra support and Candies on my road/cyclocross bike. I find the eggbeaters a little too minimal and like a bigger target to clip in.
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    what do you guys think of Diadora?

    thinking of pickup up the escape

    or x-country comp..any input?

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    These I just picked up recently; $35.00 at Jenson, btw....

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    Northwave Bike & Walks have worked well for me for HAB.

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    I'm digging the looks of the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seek IV Shoe, do you think they would feel good and work well with a new rider who is learning to clip into Crank Brother Eggbeater 3's? Would they ride ok on those pedals? We don't have serious terrain here in Oklahoma and I'm new anyway and riding the easy stuff and paved stuff to get my endurance and legs built up before I start hitting real trails and singletracks. So I don't need the real race type shoe.

    How do you keep the laces from getting caught up in the chain, do they tuck away in any special way?

    I guess I would be considered a casual rider who wants to do a little walking.

    Right now I'm just riding on my cheapo platform pedals, and my Nike SHOX shoes. I'm ready to try to clip in and ride some, so I'm not sure I want a "race ready" type shoe. I just need to transition from my tennis shoes to a shoe that will clip in, so some of these laced type shoes you've all mentioned here are feeling like the right choice. Only problem is there are not a lot of them in my LBS's here in town, so I can't go try them on. I have to research and just purchase online and try...I guess. There are a few of the PI's on Zappo's which has free shipping and returns, that seems to be a good "try it on" program for me. Amazon too, since I'm a Prime customer I can return for free too.

    Good info here, thanks everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMc73 View Post
    I'm digging the looks of the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seek IV Shoe, do you think they would feel good and work well with a new rider who is learning to clip into Crank Brother Eggbeater 3's? Would they ride ok on those pedals? We don't have serious terrain here in Oklahoma and I'm new anyway and riding the easy stuff and paved stuff to get my endurance and legs built up before I start hitting real trails and singletracks. So I don't need the real race type shoe.
    I would stay away from that combo, the shoe is a little flexy and the pedal platform non-existent. I have some x-alp enduro's and don't like riding them with candy pedals, but with mallets they are fine because of the big platform. You might be ok if you are light and just starting out, but in the long run you will be better off with a stiffer shoe or different pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilarider View Post
    I would stay away from that combo, the shoe is a little flexy and the pedal platform non-existent. I have some x-alp enduro's and don't like riding them with candy pedals, but with mallets they are fine because of the big platform. You might be ok if you are light and just starting out, but in the long run you will be better off with a stiffer shoe or different pedal.
    Yeah, I was thinking I might exchange these EB3 pedals for a Shimano SPD, like an XT or something of the sorts. I know two people who swear and love the Eggbeaters but they have also been riding for 14+ years and are more experienced.

    I'm really just torn on what I want to buy and start off with. I don't think I need the stiff XC racer type pedal or shoe, but I want to learn to clip in. I know the Shimano's can be adjusted where the Eggbeaters can't. Its all just so hard to do when shopping online.

    I understand a nice hard plastic bottom would be better for the Eggbeaters, but I'm really not sure I want that "soccer cleat" type shoe yet. I'm not against exchanging the EB3's, but I went with them due to the 4 points of entry and figuring that would be easy to learn how to clip in on. Maybe I need a Shimano pedal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterc4 View Post
    I just got some of the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seek IV. They are still pretty new so I can't say anything for durability. I really like the hard sole, and they are very comfortable walking around. They look great too.

    What kind of pedals do you ride these shoes with? Do you consider yourself a hardcore rider or casual? Have you had the stiffer, velcro/strap type shoe before, how do you like them compared to these?

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    Are the Lake's Eggbeater compatible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBoothius View Post
    Are the Lake's Eggbeater compatible?
    Yes, of course they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBoothius View Post
    Are the Lake's Eggbeater compatible?
    Well, from what I know, the Eggbeaters come with their specified clips, which should mount on any shoe, I'd imagine. If not then I was informed wrong.

    I think I'm going to research the XTR vs. EB3s and see what I can find out on an overall pedal. I know that my Trek and Shimano are a match made in marketing heaven, but I love Crank Brothers stuff and these EB3's are nicely built. I just wonder what is better for a beginner...

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    The Lake mx165 has caught my eye and I have been casually checking since Spring. Unfortunately it seems the only black ones you can find online are 40, nothing larger. Are there any brick and mortar retailers that stock them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaLL6 View Post
    The Lake mx165 has caught my eye and I have been casually checking since Spring. Unfortunately it seems the only black ones you can find online are 40, nothing larger. Are there any brick and mortar retailers that stock them?
    Yeah same here. I'm a 44 and can't find any to consider.

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    Hence the reason for some uber excellent sales, shoe size availability is for midgets and dwarfs; oh, and little people.

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    I think I've decided to go with the Shimano SH-M087 shoe and the XT PD-M785 pedal for my first pedal/shoe combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaLL6 View Post
    The Lake mx165 has caught my eye and I have been casually checking since Spring. Unfortunately it seems the only black ones you can find online are 40, nothing larger. Are there any brick and mortar retailers that stock them?
    The 165's have been discontinued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaARNP View Post
    Hence the reason for some uber excellent sales, shoe size availability is for midgets and dwarfs; oh, and little people.
    Times like this I sometimes wish I was one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMc73 View Post
    I think I've decided to go with the Shimano SH-M087 shoe and the XT PD-M785 pedal for my first pedal/shoe combo.
    I currently have the exact ones Trauma showed up a few posts. I've had them for about a year and they make my feet hurt. I realize everyone's feet are different which is why I think until I find the right pair I am going back to REI or someplace I can actually try them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    The 165's have been discontinued.
    Is there a shoe which is equivalent to the 165?

    It is listed as "out of stock" on Lake's website... confusing if they are, as you say, discontinued.

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    Something with a bit of flex usually woke better fo hikabike

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    I have an over version of the Bontrager Race shoes. Mine have a nice rubble treat and enough flex in the sole to be very comfortable walking. The new version seems to be further away from a hike/bike shoe.

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    I found the Pearl Izumi Endurio II's on Zappos.com for $88, so I went for it. Placed my order for a size 44 (10 mens), and they were shipped one day delivery. I opened them up and was very impressed with the shoe and how it looked and felt. Only problem is, they shipped me size 47 (12 mens), so they obviously didn't fit. Zappos didn't have anymore of this shoe, it sold out, so I just had to get a refund.

    I found them again on Amazon.com at $88, ordered size 44, so we'll see what actually shows up.
    The shoe looks and feels awesome, well built, should be an awesome hike-a-bike shoe. I also have a pair of the 2011 Mavic Razor's on the way. I will compare the two and go from there.

    I think I'm leaning towards the Pearl Izumi myself...shopping their products, they make good stuff.
    I could become a brand loyal Peral Izumi fan, very soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMc73 View Post
    Zappos didn't have anymore of this shoe, it sold out, so I just had to get a refund.

    I found them again on Amazon.com at $88, ordered size 44, so we'll see what actually shows up.
    Very strange, considering Amazon owns Zappos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritOnTour View Post
    Very strange, considering Amazon owns Zappos!
    Yeah, I'm curious to what is going to actually show up at my door. Zappos Customer Service said that the shoes shipped from the manufacture, so PI made the mistake when selecting a size 47 to send me.

    Either way, if I get a size 44 in hand, I'll be happy. The shoes look and feel really nice. I'm now a PI fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanBoothius View Post
    Is there a shoe which is equivalent to the 165?

    I.
    Not in the Lake lineup I guess. The 85's do not have a Vibram sole, the 170's seem a little lighter, less toe (rand) and heel protection and do not have a Vibram sole either. The 180's (I think) are much like the 165's but with a buckle...those do not show on their website any longer.

    It's a shame.

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    I picked up a pair of silver lake 165 based on this thread. Great fit and a vibram sole to boot. Wanted the black, but the silver are not too flashy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadrum37 View Post
    I picked up a pair of silver lake 165 based on this thread. Great fit and a vibram sole to boot. Wanted the black, but the silver are not too flashy.
    So I just bit the bullet (color-wise) and ordered a pair of 165's in my size. They are the awful red/silver color combo but these things are about to go away forever. Been searching for black or silver for months to no avail. The plan is to run my current Shoe Goo'd pair into the ground and maybe dye the new ones black. I had to order them before they were gone for good. Love these shoes and my current pair has lasted for several years, through many rough, rocky hike-a-biking adventures.

    65 bucks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbrandow View Post
    I have an over version of the Bontrager Race shoes. Mine have a nice rubble treat and enough flex in the sole to be very comfortable walking. The new version seems to be further away from a hike/bike shoe.

    Linky
    Yes, the ones previous are great and just like a hiking shoe made for biking.

    I have a pair.....Lite and comfortable.

    The new design is closer to a hybrid road/mountain bike shoe.

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    Here are some photos of the new 2011 Mavic Razor's...


















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    thats the last shoe id want for hike a biking

    well, maybe slightly before a sidi dragon.
    The mountains are calling and I must go

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    Yeah. I'm sending them back. I decided to keep the Pearl Izumi Enduro II's.

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    I've got a pair of Pearl Izumi X-Alp Lows and really do like them. Picked em up for less than $90 at a LBS. Haven't had them for a long time yet but so far I'm impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMc73 View Post
    Yeah. I'm sending them back. I decided to keep the Pearl Izumi Enduro II's.
    I ended up sending back the Enduro II's, because I had Amazon rewards cash, so instead of the $88 Enduro's, which like I said, I returned...I paid $6 for the X-Alp Elites!!! #FTW

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    I've been running a pair of Pearl Izumi Vagabonds since about 2003 and they have treated me very well especially when in Moab and there are technical features that my flatlander skills just cant handle.

    I also run a pair of Sidi Spiders that are great for softer, muddier conditions where they can dig in a littel easier.

    Just some information too, since about 2008 Pearl Izumi has been owned by Shimano. They bounced around from owner to owner before that and none of them were interested in promoting the brand. Looks like Shimano has really been trying to grow Pearl Izumi into its premium sports specific clothing line. All good things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainmorgan View Post
    I've been running a pair of Pearl Izumi Vagabonds since about 2003 and they have treated me very well especially when in Moab and there are technical features that my flatlander skills just cant handle.

    I also run a pair of Sidi Spiders that are great for softer, muddier conditions where they can dig in a littel easier.

    Just some information too, since about 2008 Pearl Izumi has been owned by Shimano. They bounced around from owner to owner before that and none of them were interested in promoting the brand. Looks like Shimano has really been trying to grow Pearl Izumi into its premium sports specific clothing line. All good things!
    Thats good to know, I really like my Pearl Izumi products that I've just recently purchased. I'll be looking into their running shoes and clothes as well. I will probably add their new chamios only MTB pant, liner that is like $24-$30, just to have as an extra chamois.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaARNP View Post
    These I just picked up recently; $35.00 at Jenson, btw....

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    +1! Great shoe on and off the bike. I really looked around to find something I could do some light hiking in and still be stiff enough to ride in and these were the best I came up with. I paid about $55 for them. *Jensen didn't have my size*

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    Lake MX170!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Another vote for the Lake's , you cannot beat Lake quality , second to none .
    I have been using a pair of Shimano shoes from the late 90's that are very much like the MT52 model, with the mid-top hiking shoe form, which for me works better than the roadie-shoe form almost all mountain bike shoes have. I like how the higher top keeps debris out of the shoe better.

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    Shimano MT 52 long term report - Ive worn these for over 4 yrs and reallly love them. The are the most comfortable mt bike shoes I have ever worn, I ride x/c am. I like the high top look and found that the high top protection really saved my ankle. I was on a tight single track and clipped a bush, but hidden behind the bush was the end of a low lying log. I hit the log just at the top of the high top, it hurt like hell and scrapped a chunk of skin, but with out the high top taking the initial impact, I would have had much more severe injuries. I use the Shimano spd w/resin platfforms, The soles are hard so not so good unclipped. but clipped in the feel great. The have stood the test of time, dust and being submerged many times. Originally they were black but now have turned a greyish brown. The soles are still good, but the tops are getting soft the many drownings. I'm going the get the newer Mt 53, which is basically the same except for large cooling vent panels

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    Shimano MT41
    I love mine.
    Very walkable and stable.
    I feel very secure on trails with them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan55 View Post
    thats the last shoe id want for hike a biking

    well, maybe slightly before a sidi dragon.
    These are the absolute last shoe you'd want for hike a biking!

    My Sidi Ergo 2 Vernice (road):


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    shimano MT42..so far so good. walking and on the bike.

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    All the given pics of shoes are superb
    I like all these but especially X Alp enduro.
    Thanks for share.

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    Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seek IV--on sale at REI ($65)

    On sale at REI. Labor day sale. I have no connection with REI......
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