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    Bell Super 2R. It's Official!

    It's official. Like I promised, I'd have one of the first when they came out. This is the first one to walk out of Art's Cyclery on someone's head.

    I'm likin' it already. I'll add to this post when I get to my laptop in a bit. She rides tomorrow and downhills "Just Outstanding" in Kernville on Sunday.
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    Cool. My brother has one coming tomorrow. Same color. We have the same size noggin so I'll be able to check it out thoroughly.

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    Bell Super 2R. It's Official!

    You wore it out of the store?

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    Coming from a Bell Super for a year and half now (and I love it), there are some subtle fit "feeling" differences but it's true to the sizing and head shape of the original "Super". I'm at the edge of Medium and Large. Medium does it well for me, Large fits but has too much volume in the shell for my head shape .

    One of the nuances I noticed immediately was the firm but flexible rubberized pads that are new to the Super. They noticeably rest on the "corners" of me noggin. My immediate response was "deal breaker!" but I continued to play with adjustments while in the store and after keeping it on my head, my noggin settled into that pad. I think I was anticipating an identical fit and feel of the Super that I wear almost every day so it was just a bit of a shock. I'm good with it, now. I'll be on a group ride tomorrow with our trail organization and the 2 IMBA Trail Care Crew leaders that are here for our big trail build training seminars on Saturday. I'll be rolling chinless, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    You wore it out of the store?
    Yep, walked out and jumped on the waiting little, yellow short bus. Derp!

    No, actually I carried it out in the box but this was the first one the crew on the floor has delivered. I'd guess quite a few preorders found their way on the UPS truck by now. They just landed in the warehouse.

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    That's a non-Mips version, right? My understanding is the MIPS models won't be available until late Jan, early Feb 2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by challybert View Post
    That's a non-Mips version, right? My understanding is the MIPS models won't be available until late Jan, early Feb 2015
    That's correct. No MIPS available, yet. I considered it but decided against it. Had it been available, I probably would have sprung the extra $20 but today after finding out they were in, I was in the " I want it NOW!" mode.

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    Thanks for posting the sizing info! I love the way my Super fits and was on the fence between this and the Mets parachute. Not being able to try a parachute on and availability I think I will be going with another Bell. I will probably wait for the MIPS. Anyone want to by a used Super?
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    I have a medium red mips on order for delivery in Jan/Feb 2015. All of my helmets are subdued and this time I'm going for a color outside my norm.

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    btw...the GoPro mount is GREATLY improved on the new model. IMO, the biggest flaw was the original's velcro attachment going in through the vent and attaching to the to small velcro dots. It generally held well but in my experience, every to you had to manipulate the strap, it would pull the velcro dots off the EPS liner and that required too much attention for such a menial task.

    The new mount is redesigned, super sturdy, and is captivated by a velcro strap that wraps the mount as well as the helmet vent. It's solid and a great improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    ... there are some subtle fit "feeling" differences but it's true to the sizing and head shape of the original "Super". I'm at the edge of Medium and Large. Medium does it well for me, Large fits but has too much volume in the shell for my head shape .
    I'm in the same boat as far as helmets. Every time I check the sizing charts my head size is exactly on the cutoff between medium and large. Some larges feel better, but often I can get away with a medium. Do you know your exact head measurement? Mine is 23.25 cm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    I'm in the same boat as far as helmets. Every time I check the sizing charts my head size is exactly on the cutoff between medium and large. Some larges feel better, but often I can get away with a medium. Do you know your exact head measurement? Mine is 23.25 cm.
    Think you meant 23.25 inches, right?

    Tried on my brother's Medium today. It fit me great. My head size is 58cm (22 7/8 inches). I did need to cinch is up with the tension adjust in back quite a bit. Definitely room for the medium to accommodate a larger head than mine....how much larger i don't know. My guess is the medium would be JUST right for you without room for a headband(Sweatbuster) or skull cap.

    You're right on the boarder. Hell, I'd just order a medium and a large, try them on and return the one that doesn't fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by challybert View Post
    Think you meant 23.25 inches, right?

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    Ha ha. They don't call me pinhead for nothing. Yes, 23.25". Yeah, that's how mediums usually fit me. Just right, without much room for head bands. I don't like the extra space/volume of most larges though.

    Yeah, may have to get an instore fitting or just order both. I'm waiting for the MIPS though, so I have so time to figure it out.

    I wear a M/L POC Trabec now that fits really well and also have a size medium Giro Feature that is barely big enough. It's kinda tight even with a polypro skull cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    Ha ha. They don't call me pinhead for nothing. Yes, 23.25". Yeah, that's how mediums usually fit me. Just right, without much room for head bands. I don't like the extra space/volume of most larges though.

    Yeah, may have to get an instore fitting or just order both. I'm waiting for the MIPS though, so I have so time to figure it out.

    I wear a M/L POC Trabec now that fits really well and also have a size medium Giro Feature that is barely big enough. It's kinda tight even with a polypro skull cap.
    Yup, M/L POC Trabec for me, too. For me, good fit normally, perfect fit with the Sweatbuster installed (tightens it up a bit). Sounds like the Medium Super 2R is going to be the one for you. I'm waiting for the MIPS version too.

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    I am looking at the Super 2. I'm unquestionably a large in pretty much every company's sizing. I'd really like to get the MIPS version, but I have a 50% off coupon with an expiration date and if Jan/Feb is the ship date for that one, no way I'll be able to use it on one of those.

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    I made a comment in another Super2 thread but I'll follow up here. I rode the Just Outstanding trail in Kernville last Sunday. We did an alternate, more technical route after JO that kept us on the trail for a few hours. It was a blast but I was most disappointed in the new Super 2R's fit, specifically those rubber pads that I "thought" would mellow. They didn't and became quite painful. Last night I had time to do some serious investigation and side by side comparison with my original 1.5 year old Super. Aside from those rubber pads, the interiors are pretty much identical. My assumption was that the new rubber pad was hiding some mechanism for the chinbar connection/lock up device on each side. I decided to peel one of them off. It came right up and yields nothing underneath but EPS liner identical to that of the old Super. The helmet now feels EXACTLY like the old Super which, for me, is awesome! I'm calling Bell today to find out if that rubber pad must be permanently installed. I'm gonna guess not but we'll see.

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    I watched a video about the these helmets earlier today and thought it was very interesting especially since someone was looking for a way to make a helmet with a removable chin bar for one of his college classes. I don't think I would need one of these but damn that option is really nice to have!

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    I don't really feel like I need the chin bar, which is why I want the one without. I like the breakaway camera mount, in light of the article that came out awhile back questioning the safety of camera helmet mounts. I wish my coupon was valid long enough to get the MIPS version, though.

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    NH, is your coupon an Art's coupon? They were taking preorders for both mips and non-mips and charging at the time of order when I first looked.

    I'll be curious to see and feel the fit of the MIPS. Wondering if anything is different regarding the liner issue.

    I received a reply regarding my query on the pad installed in the new 2R. They didn't directly answer my question about whether it could come out all together but said it was there in part as a means to reach a certain certification rating due to the changes that the chin bar brought on. They suggested that it helped the fit for those that are right on the edge of fitment and that it would allow them to take the step to the next size up. I couldn't disagree more. It destroyed the fit for me and was insanely uncomfortable and I'm on that edge of sizing and do have a head shape that Bell has always worked. If I step to a large, the volume is all wrong and the helmet bobbles. It's a shame because everything about this helmet works but that one little issue that becomes huge when in the saddle for any length of time. I'm trying to decide whether to yank it and wear it or just return it and get my $200 back.

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    No. My coupon is straight from Bell. My club got a bunch. I have to use it on Bell's website.

    I'm a bit concerned to hear about your fit issues with the rubber pads, but I'm not at the edge of any fit. Any large I ever try on has a little extra room where I have to cinch down on the retention system. Bells and Giros have both worked for me in the past (I currently have a Giro Xar). I got to try some POC helmets and those things feel like torture devices to me.

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    I got to try one on today. I came away learning a couple things. First is that removing the extra cheek pads change the fit radically. Taking them out made a big diffrence in comfort. The next is that this helmet is LIGHT. I was pretty amazed how lightweight this helmet felt in my hands. Finally, somehow it felt different to me than the regular Super I tried earlier this fall. I remember that Super feeling just about perfect so I was a bit surprised and disappointed when I got a hot spot with the 2R almost right away. I was prepared to walk out the door with a new helmet but I'm going to hold off until the MIPS version and the MET Parachute come in. Hopefully one of them will fit better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    I received a reply regarding my query on the pad installed in the new 2R. They didn't directly answer my question about whether it could come out all together but said it was there in part as a means to reach a certain certification rating due to the changes that the chin bar brought on. They suggested that it helped the fit for those that are right on the edge of fitment and that it would allow them to take the step to the next size up. I couldn't disagree more. It destroyed the fit for me and was insanely uncomfortable and I'm on that edge of sizing and do have a head shape that Bell has always worked. If I step to a large, the volume is all wrong and the helmet bobbles. It's a shame because everything about this helmet works but that one little issue that becomes huge when in the saddle for any length of time. I'm trying to decide whether to yank it and wear it or just return it and get my $200 back.
    Very interesting. My head is right between medium and large (technically it's at the bottom end of large) and the current large Super I have has proved to be too large for me. Without my winter head gear it bobbles around on my head in rough terrain to the point that I stopped wearing it in the summer. I was going to see about a medium of the 2R in MIPS but your observations would seem to indicate that this would not be a good idea; but I'm not doing a large again.

    Obviously I will need to try one in store when they come out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    I received a reply regarding my query on the pad installed in the new 2R. They didn't directly answer my question about whether it could come out all together but said it was there in part as a means to reach a certain certification rating due to the changes that the chin bar brought on.
    If those pads are required for certification, there's no way their lawyers would let them tell you it's fine to take them out.

    Remember that we're talking about normal-helmet certification here, not DH-helmet certification.

    I'm not an expert, but I've never heard of a company having to add rubber pads to get a helmet certified. Sounds odd. Maybe someone goofed up the design or production of the shell, and the pads are a last-second hack?

    Are the pads you're talking about visible in this photo? EDIT: Oh, now I see your photo of the pad in your other post, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManBike View Post
    If those pads are required for certification, there's no way their lawyers would let them tell you it's fine to take them out.

    Remember that we're talking about normal-helmet certification here, not DH-helmet certification.

    I'm not an expert, but I've never heard of a company having to add rubber pads to get a helmet certified. Sounds odd. Maybe someone goofed up the design or production of the shell, and the pads are a last-second hack?

    Are the pads you're talking about visible in this photo? EDIT: Oh, now I see your photo of the pad in your other post, here.
    My third photo in the first post of this thread shows the pad in question. I don't expect them to give me a thumbs up on the removal of that pad, just more nebulous mumbo-jumbo so I haven't pursued the issue any further with them.

    The photo of a Super2R that you just linked above, where's that from? It does NOT include the pads in question. Is that a prototype helmet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    The photo of a Super2R that you just linked above, where's that from? It does NOT include the pads in question. Is that a prototype helmet?
    Yeah, probably pre-production, it's from something posted the end of August. Looks like a MIPS. Here's the page.

    Thanks for your post.

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    Just got mine last night and used it for our weekly evening local dh run. We pedal up the road, so we're enduro, bro! As everyone's saying there seems to be slight difference in fit, I felt it toward the upper rear of head. There's small differences in the eps at the rear, the rear ratchet retaining mech is slightly different. Once I fitted the helmet and tightened up the ratchet though I noticed no discomfort.
    The chin bar was ridiculously easy to install. I did it first time at the top of hill, helmet on head, in the rainy dark, no instructions read. Just make sure the nuggets are in their matching sockets, hook the rear latch and snap all the latches home. Once on it feels solid.
    In comparison to my THE One carbon full face, it of course doesn't feel as encompassing. It's way lighter. Ventilation is night and day. It was almost too ventilated with the chilly drizzly night weather. The face opening is a bit larger too. There's no mesh on the chin bar vents. If you take it off with chinbar, it's kinda difficult to put back on unless you loosen the back of head retaining ratchet.
    The GP mount is way better. Doesn't plug up a vent and the strap more secure. Mine came with two little plastic chips that I have no idea what they are for and promptly got lost. Nice drawstring carrying sack provided also.
    I like it, smartly designed and feels good.
    I would be loath to remove those side rubber pads, I wonder if they provide additional protection again the side latching mechanism from intruding inside.

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    Oh, my one other annoyance that still exists on the 2 is the plastic strap for the rear ratchet still goes through a captured hole in pad. Even if it's got supposed permanent anti-funk fibers, I still take my pads out and wash them. If you don't snip a little slot to the hole, you'll need to unsnap those plastic straps from inner helmet to take the pads out.

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    I agree and echo all your observations. And yes, the chin bar is stupid-easy to work with right away. I'm rolling with the 2 new nitrile pads removed. I can 't stand the fit with them installed but love every other aspect of the helmet. I may craft an identically shaped foam pad to take their place and see how it feels. Without those pads, the interior is identical to the original aside from the nuances of the rear suspension.

    I hear ya on the pierced section of foam liner. The original was the same way and I just dealt with it. I did replace my liner when it frayed just prior to a year. Bell sent me one for free. They were only $7 if you had to buy one. I wear a SweatVac skull cap every time I ride so I'm not having to wash the helmet liner as frequently. Just a habit I picked up with my Arai motorcycle helmets.

    Like you, I was a bit baffled on the 2 little tiny bits that were in the bag. I studied the helmet and figured it out....they are to fill the notch where the chinbar keyways into the helmet right where the 2 side latches are located. Probably designed to keep crud from filling the hole when you're rollin' without the chinbar. Not sure I'll ever bother with them but that's where they go. Not one bit of info in the manual on that, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    I made a comment in another Super2 thread but I'll follow up here. I rode the Just Outstanding trail in Kernville last Sunday. We did an alternate, more technical route after JO that kept us on the trail for a few hours. It was a blast but I was most disappointed in the new Super 2R's fit, specifically those rubber pads that I "thought" would mellow. They didn't and became quite painful. Last night I had time to do some serious investigation and side by side comparison with my original 1.5 year old Super. Aside from those rubber pads, the interiors are pretty much identical. My assumption was that the new rubber pad was hiding some mechanism for the chinbar connection/lock up device on each side. I decided to peel one of them off. It came right up and yields nothing underneath but EPS liner identical to that of the old Super. The helmet now feels EXACTLY like the old Super which, for me, is awesome! I'm calling Bell today to find out if that rubber pad must be permanently installed. I'm gonna guess not but we'll see.
    Did you mean this marked Rubber Pads ?

    For me it's seems to be the same parts, which make the super 2r a little bit uncomfortable (...and that's the reason, why i am unsteady of take him back to dealer). Is it easy to remove them (are the glued??)? Is there a way to put them back, if it's not the right solution?

    Could you please post a Picture with the removed Pads?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chefkoch View Post
    Did you mean this marked Rubber Pads ?

    For me it's seems to be the same parts, which make the super 2r a little bit uncomfortable (...and that's the reason, why i am unsteady of take him back to dealer). Is it easy to remove them (are the glued??)? Is there a way to put them back, if it's not the right solution?

    Could you please post a Picture with the removed Pads?


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    Yes, those are the pads. I did remove them. They come out very easy. They are stuck to the EPS liner with a sticky goo and it requires about as much effort as it would to remove the velcro attached liner that is adjacent. I don't have a pic of them removed at this moment but there is nothing under them and when they're out, it looks exactly like the original Super helmet. The sticky goo is persistent so if you pull them out and decide to put them back, they should stick.

    Just to reiterate, Bell did not give me the "go ahead" on removing these in their communication. They just explained why they were there and left it at that. Mine are out. It was that or return the helmet because the fit with them installed is completely unacceptable. It's a shame because by their statement it seemed to me they're trying to appease those that where on the borderline of fit while screwing up a perfect fit for those that were already sold on the helmet. We'll see how well this works for them.

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    I really want to buy this but feel i should just wait for the MIPS version instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattnmtns View Post
    Thanks for posting the sizing info! I love the way my Super fits and was on the fence between this and the Mets parachute. Not being able to try a parachute on and availability I think I will be going with another Bell. I will probably wait for the MIPS. Anyone want to by a used Super?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brainhulk View Post
    I really want to buy this but feel i should just wait for the MIPS version instead
    I know its a little silly, but I didn't get the MIPS because it didn't come in the color I wanted.
    I got a chance to do a side by side comparison with my Super, both medium. AFAICT the exterior shell shape is identical. I can actually take the shin bar and fit it into the matching holes on my old Super. It wont latch though since it doesn't have the plastic bits for the latch mech. The no GP mount would work except for the little spud hole in the shell. I suppose you could chance drilling a hole in your old Super helmet shell if you really wanted to.
    Interior fit, those side pads just above your ears is the major difference. For me it made it a little snugger there, no problem for me. If that fit is already tight on you with the Super though, I can see it being a problem as those pads are high density and don't squish much. The rear difference is subtle and I could not detect any difference in fit there. The cheek pads are removable for cleaning, and also you can open up the pouch itself and remove the foam inside. It has two pieces, a big open cell squishy pad and a thinner dense pad that I think you can remove for fit. I have a thin face so run both pads for appropriate firm fit. It's actually not as firm as my full face but still good.
    Kinda nice having a quick side squeeze helmet strap latch as opposed to the double D ring buckle on my full face. Can operate it with gloves on.
    Yeah, that was my guess for what the little plastic chips were for. I actually found them the other night. Will not bother with them. I popped them in once and a bit of pain to remove if you don't have fingernails. And I can see them immediately getting dropped in the dirt and disappearing, just as they immediately got dropped behind my car seat when I got them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by root View Post
    I know its a little silly, but I didn't get the MIPS because it didn't come in the color I wanted.
    I got a chance to do a side by side comparison with my Super, both medium. AFAICT the exterior shell shape is identical. I can actually take the shin bar and fit it into the matching holes on my old Super. It wont latch though since it doesn't have the plastic bits for the latch mech. The no GP mount would work except for the little spud hole in the shell. I suppose you could chance drilling a hole in your old Super helmet shell if you really wanted to.
    Interior fit, those side pads just above your ears is the major difference. For me it made it a little snugger there, no problem for me. If that fit is already tight on you with the Super though, I can see it being a problem as those pads are high density and don't squish much. The rear difference is subtle and I could not detect any difference in fit there. The cheek pads are removable for cleaning, and also you can open up the pouch itself and remove the foam inside. It has two pieces, a big open cell squishy pad and a thinner dense pad that I think you can remove for fit. I have a thin face so run both pads for appropriate firm fit. It's actually not as firm as my full face but still good.
    Kinda nice having a quick side squeeze helmet strap latch as opposed to the double D ring buckle on my full face. Can operate it with gloves on.
    Yeah, that was my guess for what the little plastic chips were for. I actually found them the other night. Will not bother with them. I popped them in once and a bit of pain to remove if you don't have fingernails. And I can see them immediately getting dropped in the dirt and disappearing, just as they immediately got dropped behind my car seat when I got them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    btw...the GoPro mount is GREATLY improved on the new model. IMO, the biggest flaw was the original's velcro attachment going in through the vent and attaching to the to small velcro dots. It generally held well but in my experience, every to you had to manipulate the strap, it would pull the velcro dots off the EPS liner and that required too much attention for such a menial task.

    The new mount is redesigned, super sturdy, and is captivated by a velcro strap that wraps the mount as well as the helmet vent. It's solid and a great improvement.
    Would the new GP mount work on the old Super? Seems like the vents are spaced the same as the old one? Still wondering why Bell hasnt also made a light mount like the GP mount to sell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRCVT View Post
    Would the new GP mount work on the old Super? Seems like the vents are spaced the same as the old one? Still wondering why Bell hasnt also made a light mount like the GP mount to sell...
    If you are willing to drill a small hole in the top of the shell it'll fit. There a little spud on the new mount that indexes into a hole. You could cut/sand the spud off, but then I think the mount would slide around.

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    At first I thought this helmet seemed pointless, not as light as a normal helmet or as protective as a legit full face. But now, seeing how easy it is to put on the chinbar, and the fact it might seriously cut down on some gnarly maxillofacial injuries makes it seems perfect for the climb and then heavy descent riding I do. Next helmet for me, for sure.

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    Don't mean to be a bummer, but I was seriously let down when I got my hands on one the other day. I messed around with it a bit and while I'm sure I could get it dialed in close enough, in the end it just didn't inspire the confidence on terrain that I would use it in. Sure it might prevent some face injury, but I feel like this helmet is just in limbo too much. Not enough for a DH (or even aggro enduro) and too much for XC. Ultimately, I ended up getting a TLD A1 and a Giro Cipher. Sure I'm hating life when I have slog the cipher uphill, but it's a compromise I'm willing to make for the confidence I'll get going down and the better protection when I eat it. As others have said, the 2r is a different feel than the super. Don't think because your super feels good, this one will be the same.

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    Can someone do me a favor and give me internal width of medium 2R? I have medium 2R MIPS preordered and would like to make sure it's going to fit. My head is wider than normal at 6.5" (165mm) and this has been the deciding factor in my helmet sizing. TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugly View Post
    Don't mean to be a bummer, but I was seriously let down when I got my hands on one the other day. I messed around with it a bit and while I'm sure I could get it dialed in close enough, in the end it just didn't inspire the confidence on terrain that I would use it in. Sure it might prevent some face injury, but I feel like this helmet is just in limbo too much. Not enough for a DH (or even aggro enduro) and too much for XC. Ultimately, I ended up getting a TLD A1 and a Giro Cipher. Sure I'm hating life when I have slog the cipher uphill, but it's a compromise I'm willing to make for the confidence I'll get going down and the better protection when I eat it. As others have said, the 2r is a different feel than the super. Don't think because your super feels good, this one will be the same.
    I will agree that it probably isn't as great downhill helmet and probable to heavy for an XC helmet especially since I wouldn't even consider the Super to really be an XC helmet. However for a guy like me that does a mix of both (my style of riding is probably closest to US enduro style) it can be the ticket.

    What has stopped me in the past from getting a full face helmet is the fact they suck so bad for long climbs. I had considered the old Met Parachute but I could never get my hands on one for fit. It also looked chintzy from all the pics. I have seen the new Met Parachute in person and it looks like quality and is super lightweight. It seems as if it would be equally as comfortable on climbs as any mountain bike helmet without a chin bar. So for me, my choices are the the Super 2r, the Met Parachute or continuing with no chin bar. The Super 2r will most likely win though over the Parachute since I will be able to get my hands on it for fit. If it wasn't for either of these options, I would just stick to the Super that I already have and love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    I will agree that it probably isn't as great downhill helmet and probable to heavy for an XC helmet especially since I wouldn't even consider the Super to really be an XC helmet. However for a guy like me that does a mix of both (my style of riding is probably closest to US enduro style) it can be the ticket.

    What has stopped me in the past from getting a full face helmet is the fact they suck so bad for long climbs. I had considered the old Met Parachute but I could never get my hands on one for fit. It also looked chintzy from all the pics. I have seen the new Met Parachute in person and it looks like quality and is super lightweight. It seems as if it would be equally as comfortable on climbs as any mountain bike helmet without a chin bar. So for me, my choices are the the Super 2r, the Met Parachute or continuing with no chin bar. The Super 2r will most likely win though over the Parachute since I will be able to get my hands on it for fit. If it wasn't for either of these options, I would just stick to the Super that I already have and love.
    I have a few rides in my MET and while it is a littler warmer climbing, it isn't considerably warmer.
    I ride in MD so east coast heat and humidity. I'm really torn between the two. I like that MET is ASTM1952 certified, but I like the MIPS system as well. Also, the 2R would allow me to have one helmet instead of two.

    I don't buy into the FF is too much for XC riding, myself and other people I've talked to have had face injuries riding XC. That said, riding with the kids on a paved path I won't be using the MET.
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    I live in Western NC (Asheville area).
    Never gets ridiculously hot here but it can get a little humid.
    There are days though that I take my helmet off though when on long climbs.
    I am however on a SS so I am mashing up and not just spinning up.

    I have seen guys riding enduro races wearing a regular helmet and carrying their full face with them. Seems silly when these options are available.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    I live in Western NC (Asheville area).
    Never gets ridiculously hot here but it can get a little humid.
    There are days though that I take my helmet off though when on long climbs.
    I am however on a SS so I am mashing up and not just spinning up.

    I have seen guys riding enduro races wearing a regular helmet and carrying their full face with them. Seems silly when these options are available.

    I don't know the event rules, but if they required certified helmets that may be why. Remember the Bell isn't ASTM 1952 certified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    I don't know the event rules, but if they required certified helmets that may be why. Remember the Bell isn't ASTM 1952 certified.
    They just required a helmet at all time.
    Full face was too hot to climb in but he wanted more protection in timed downhill portions. So the solution was 2 helmets. It was a battle of comfort vs protection and helmets like the Super 2R and Met Parachute offer a good compromise.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    Just got mine today - same issue. Super is perfect like a glove but this 2r...not so. I'm thinking it will cause a headache during riding. Plus those pressure points transfer impact to head during crash? Hate to modify it but likely will. Maybe Bell will come up with a mod for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 702Biff View Post
    Just got mine today - same issue. Super is perfect like a glove but this 2r...not so. I'm thinking it will cause a headache during riding. Plus those pressure points transfer impact to head during crash. I'm thinking deal breaker.
    Maybe let Bell know about your experience like I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    Maybe let Bell know about your experience like I did.
    I left a comment on their site which they say will post in 5 days.

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    Bell Super 2R. It's Official!

    FYI - super 2r 15% off at arts with save15 code and there is a $25 gift card with purchase

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    Pinkbike video for the impact testing of face guard is up.

    Video: Bell Super 2R Helmet Impact Testing - Pinkbike

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