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    jminus,

    Can you comment the fit at the widest circumference of the head on the parietal bone (above the rearwards of the ear)?

    This is where I had issues with the 2R.

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    Did they make it in xl for those of us with full size heads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerrickT View Post
    jminus,

    Can you comment the fit at the widest circumference of the head on the parietal bone (above the rearwards of the ear)?

    This is where I had issues with the 2R.
    This sounds like the same area that I find "irritating" on longer rides. I don't really notice anything just putting on the 2R in the garage, but on the longer rides it starts to hurt in that same area. I'll do some back to back comparisons between the two helmets tomorrow to see if I can notice a difference in fit. But the real test will be on my next long ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELECTRIC_YETI View Post
    Did they make it in xl for those of us with full size heads?
    I don't recall seeing XL on the Bell web store.

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    Took the 3R out riding today. I did some direct fit comparisons with the 2R before the ride and there is a noticeable difference in pressure on the back of my head about level with my temples. The 3R doesn't grab the head as hard there when tightened down. I also noticed that the 3R is easier to tilt sideways than the 2R, probably due to the same fit difference. The both tipped backwards with the same amount of force.

    During my short ride, the 3R felt great but honestly I'm still pretty sore from the wreck that caused me to get the new helmet in the first place so any discomfort was probably drowned out by unrelated pain.

    Anyway, here are some comparison pictures for anyone interested. 3R on the left, 2R on the right



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    I still haven't tried on a MIPS version of the S2R. I need to see how that feels compared to the standard 2R's I have. Do you have the chinbar components for the 2R/3R? Wondering if they would swap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh My Sack! View Post
    I still haven't tried on a MIPS version of the S2R. I need to see how that feels compared to the standard 2R's I have. Do you have the chinbar components for the 2R/3R? Wondering if they would swap?
    Lots of people seem to feel that the mips version of the 2R was less comfortable. I never tried a non-mips so I can't compare.


    And yes, I have chin bars for both and they look identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jminus View Post
    I don't recall seeing XL on the Bell web store.
    Correct. Still no XL with the 3R. Maybe if we complain to Bell enough they'll supersize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatshark View Post
    I need to buy more of the GoPro-mounts. The top plastic part that attaches to the camera and breaks away. I broke one, and I'd like a couple spare ones so I can more easily switch between cameras and lights etc. Anyone know where to get this part, preferrably an online shop? Bell Intl support just referenced me to the company importing them here (Norway), and they claim to not carry this spare part.
    I snapped mine off when I hit a low hanging branch in Mammoth last month. Got a new one from Weber Sports online:

    https://www.webersports.com/index.ph...l%20super%202r

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaM View Post
    ... Got a new [GoPro-mount] from Weber Sports online:
    https://www.webersports.com/index.ph...l%20super%202r
    Thanks for taking the time to answer, and with a direct link at that! Much appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jminus View Post
    Took the 3R out riding today. I did some direct fit comparisons with the 2R before the ride and there is a noticeable difference in pressure on the back of my head about level with my temples. The 3R doesn't grab the head as hard there when tightened down. I also noticed that the 3R is easier to tilt sideways than the 2R, probably due to the same fit difference. The both tipped backwards with the same amount of force.

    During my short ride, the 3R felt great but honestly I'm still pretty sore from the wreck that caused me to get the new helmet in the first place so any discomfort was probably drowned out by unrelated pain.

    Anyway, here are some comparison pictures for anyone interested. 3R on the left, 2R on the right



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    It appears you have the back adjustment tab in different positions on these, is that intentional? I find that adjustment critical to making the helmet fit appropriately. Just curious if I change from a 2 to a 3 if I should adjust this when comparing. Also interested in hearing if chin guard is swappable. Thanks for the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rentalrider View Post
    It appears you have the back adjustment tab in different positions on these, is that intentional? I find that adjustment critical to making the helmet fit appropriately. Just curious if I change from a 2 to a 3 if I should adjust this when comparing. Also interested in hearing if chin guard is swappable. Thanks for the pictures.
    I run the back tab in the middle position for both helmets, but I find that taking the helmet off or putting it on with the chin bar attached will cause the tab position to change and I have to correct it once the helmet is on. So the difference in the pictures is just happenstance.

    Chin bar is swappable. I was able to mount my old bar on the new helmet just fine.

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    I got my super 2r last month and wasn't too enamored with the fit. The helmet would slide back over my forehead far too easily.

    Bit the bullet and tore off the rubber pads and its a different helmet. I then had a look at where the pads were positioned, and they seem to be far from ideally placed. I moved them forward so the fat end of the pad is directly under the front strap and after a bit of fiddling I have a helmet that feels really solid.

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    My new Super 3R rear chin guard locking arm is vibrating/rattles, even though is in the locked down position when riding my MTB. It appears the new design has more clearance in the locking arm for the hinge pins and when locked.

    The locking arm can move freely up and down about 0.5mm.

    My old Super 2R locking arm are tight and does not rattle when riding.

    My quick fix is to tape the whole locking arm in locked position.

    Anyone seen or heard of this before?

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    Nope, not yet. I'd warranty that pig asap! Call Bell if your dealer doesn't just do it. Bell is uber responsive and in my experiences, doesn't mess around and drag out complaints. I mentioned an issue and they said to march right down to the dealer and grab a new 2R on them. They handled all the logistics.
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    I have a Super 2R - where are you guys/gals putting the chinbar when you're in half-dome mode? Doesn't fit particularly well in the pack (requires a strap) and don't have a good idea for putting it on the bike/body. My dream of dreams would be a low nuisance spot on the bike/body since I prefer to ditch the backpack hydro when I'm riding terrain that would warrant the chinbar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortein View Post
    My new Super 3R rear chin guard locking arm is vibrating/rattles, even though is in the locked down position when riding my MTB. It appears the new design has more clearance in the locking arm for the hinge pins and when locked.

    The locking arm can move freely up and down about 0.5mm.

    My old Super 2R locking arm are tight and does not rattle when riding.

    My quick fix is to tape the whole locking arm in locked position.

    Anyone seen or heard of this before?
    I have a (now defunct) 2R and a 3R that replaced it. Both are exactly the same in how the chin bar locks in to place. No play or rattle on either. Definitely sounds like a mfg defect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    I have a Super 2R - where are you guys/gals putting the chinbar when you're in half-dome mode? Doesn't fit particularly well in the pack (requires a strap) and don't have a good idea for putting it on the bike/body. My dream of dreams would be a low nuisance spot on the bike/body since I prefer to ditch the backpack hydro when I'm riding terrain that would warrant the chinbar.
    My back pack has an external flap with straps that is meant to carry a full face so that is where I strap the chin bar.

    The most minimal setup for carrying it that I have seen is how my buddy straps his onto a fairly small fanny pack. Would be cool to put it on the bike but I can't imagine where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    I have a Super 2R - where are you guys/gals putting the chinbar when you're in half-dome mode? Doesn't fit particularly well in the pack (requires a strap) and don't have a good idea for putting it on the bike/body. My dream of dreams would be a low nuisance spot on the bike/body since I prefer to ditch the backpack hydro when I'm riding terrain that would warrant the chinbar.
    Wear it around my neck on the climbs - dont even notice it's there after a minute. My Swichblade/Uvex wearing buddies without backpacks just leave their bars on and look on enviously as they suffer CO2 saturation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    I have a Super 2R - where are you guys/gals putting the chinbar when you're in half-dome mode? Doesn't fit particularly well in the pack (requires a strap)
    So I had to go back to a 2015 post but this guy had it right:

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    This works great on both my Osprey Raptor and Syncros. Next step will be to figure out when I don't have the backpack - per the replies - nothing super graceful or obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jminus View Post
    Took the 3R out riding today. I did some direct fit comparisons with the 2R before the ride and there is a noticeable difference in pressure on the back of my head about level with my temples. The 3R doesn't grab the head as hard there when tightened down. I also noticed that the 3R is easier to tilt sideways than the 2R, probably due to the same fit difference. The both tipped backwards with the same amount of force.

    During my short ride, the 3R felt great but honestly I'm still pretty sore from the wreck that caused me to get the new helmet in the first place so any discomfort was probably drowned out by unrelated pain.

    Anyway, here are some comparison pictures for anyone interested. 3R on the left, 2R on the right



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    I recently got a 2r mips for a killer price, and also I found the fit not perfect and noticed pads on both side close to the back were ruining the otherwise perfect fit...
    And from the pics on the 3r those pads seem gone? And closing up the pic show they're gone for real... So basically make your 2r to 3r by getting rid of these little bast**ds...
    The tiny difference with the foam design is minor compare to the impact of these pads
    so I'll get rid of them in no time... 😁

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    Anyone have any crash reports with the chinbar.

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    I purchased a 3r not too long ago. Overall I'm happy but there are a few annoying details.

    1. The Float Fit system pops loose on the trail. This basically negates any fit benefit from the system. I need to look at it further to see what is goIng on but it's a big problem.

    2. Cheek pads are still tight but I can shave them down.

    3. The helmet seems wide and loose side to side but tight in the back.

    4. If you wear it "half dome" then the chin straps originate from and pull on the shell near the outer side of the helmet. This means there is space between the straps and your head until the strap reaches the chin. It also allows for more side to side movement (probably the reason for issue #3). I need to wear the chin strap tighter to achieve the same stability as all my other helmets.

    Otherwise, it's good. The only deal breaker is if I can't get that Float System dial/mechanism to lock.

    Any advice/thoughts are appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRad View Post
    1. The Float Fit system pops loose on the trail. This basically negates any fit benefit from the system. I need to look at it further to see what is goIng on but it's a big problem.


    Otherwise, it's good. The only deal breaker is if I can't get that Float System dial/mechanism to lock.

    Any advice/thoughts are appreciated.
    Do you mean the vertical adjustment on the rear strap? If so, I have experienced this moving back "up" on occasion. What I found is that there is a natural place where the float system is grabbing my head (position 2) and if I pull it all the way down to 3, then eventually its going to self adjust back up a notch.

    In practice, I just put it at the second spot and tighten it down. It never moves.

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    Jminus,

    I think it is the lock on the adjustment dial that is popping but I'll check the vertical positioning too. Just rode today and no pop but I had the chin bar off... not that it should matter. Do you have a 3r or 2r?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeRad View Post
    Jminus,

    I think it is the lock on the adjustment dial that is popping but I'll check the vertical positioning too. Just rode today and no pop but I had the chin bar off... not that it should matter. Do you have a 3r or 2r?
    I have had the 2 and now have the 3. I definitely don't have any issue with the dial backing off on my 3R. It did happen on my 2R if I had it on super tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jminus View Post
    Do you mean the vertical adjustment on the rear strap? If so, I have experienced this moving back "up" on occasion. What I found is that there is a natural place where the float system is grabbing my head (position 2) and if I pull it all the way down to 3, then eventually its going to self adjust back up a notch.

    In practice, I just put it at the second spot and tighten it down. It never moves.
    Mine does this a lot and I find it very annoying because anything other than the lowest setting hurts my head. A friend of mine used a thin zip tie to lock his into his desired position. I'm going to try it.

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    Last time i had a Super 2 MIPS in medium, it does not fit me until i have removed the pads on top of the ear.

    after removing the pads it can fit me and just nice and snug.

    Now i intend to buy the Super 3 MIPS, based on the pictures above the Super 3 MIPS does not have the pads anymore.

    Should i still go for medium or go for large?
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    the fit on the 3R got a little larger as the Genius Bell designer of the original Super 2R oversaw that adding the MIPS layer does shrink the size of the Helmet a bit.

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    thanks for the info.
    But even the regular Super 2 cannot fit me if the pads are there.

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    If the old Super 2R mips fit you with the plastic pads removed the new Super 3R mips will sure fit you.

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    Thanks! Ill go for the medium then

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    Going back to the beginning, the medium 2R with the pads was an annoying fit till the pads were removed. Pads removed, it's great. The 3R MIPS medium is great. The lack of those pads fixed it for me. I would suggest you stick with medium. It should be fine.
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    I bought the large Super 3R based on their sizing and the fact that the 2R seemed to run small. My head is 22.8-23.0 (depends how I measure it) so I fall in between. I think the medium would have been a better fit for me except for the cheek pads but those can be modified. Maybe that helps.

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    Thanks guys!

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    Bought a 3R myself, and must say, it's one of the only helmets that I've found that fits my head well. I have a long, oval-shaped head and wear a Large, but even most Large helmets sit high on my head (~3in above my ears) and look ridiculous. Then I tried on the 3R and it accommodates the shape of my head much better. When wearing it half-dome, although the helmet is large overall, it sits lower on my head and provides better side and rear protection.

    I went with the blue/white color and I must say it looks fly as hell. Haven't had it out on a ride yet, but that'll change this weekend.

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    I haven't read all of the comments in this thread from the beginning but have two questions that you guys that have been following this might be able to answer. I purchased a 2R MIPS in December of 2016. Recently I noticed the head gear was popping loose near the temple and chin bar. There's a small read grommet that the head gear pops into and the grommet is cracked. I wrote Bell yesterday asking if I could buy the grommet, sending proof of purchase and a pic of the busted grommet. They wrote back to say they'd have to warranty the entire helmet. With that said I came here looking for info on the newer 3R as I expect the'll want to give me the newer helmet since the older helmets are probably out of stock. So if I understand some of this thread correctly the 3R fits a bit looser than the 2R and my head measurement is right there at 22", on the edge of both small and medium. My 2R is a medium that originally felt a bit snug, particularly the cheek pads. But after maybe 20 rides it no longer squeezes my face and feels comfy. But if I wiggle my head left and right the helmet wobbles as if it's loose. Do you guys think I should downsize to the small size if they opt to replace the entire helmet? I'm a bit concerned too, not knowing how they are about warranties, as I did fall over once and put a small ding in the side of the helmet about the size of a pencil eraser. The helmet did its job, saving my noggin' from a small rock. Could they decide to deny my warranty due to the ding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRBent View Post
    I haven't read all of the comments in this thread from the beginning but have two questions that you guys that have been following this might be able to answer. I purchased a 2R MIPS in December of 2016. Recently I noticed the head gear was popping loose near the temple and chin bar. There's a small read grommet that the head gear pops into and the grommet is cracked. I wrote Bell yesterday asking if I could buy the grommet, sending proof of purchase and a pic of the busted grommet. They wrote back to say they'd have to warranty the entire helmet. With that said I came here looking for info on the newer 3R as I expect the'll want to give me the newer helmet since the older helmets are probably out of stock. So if I understand some of this thread correctly the 3R fits a bit looser than the 2R and my head measurement is right there at 22", on the edge of both small and medium. My 2R is a medium that originally felt a bit snug, particularly the cheek pads. But after maybe 20 rides it no longer squeezes my face and feels comfy. But if I wiggle my head left and right the helmet wobbles as if it's loose. Do you guys think I should downsize to the small size if they opt to replace the entire helmet? I'm a bit concerned too, not knowing how they are about warranties, as I did fall over once and put a small ding in the side of the helmet about the size of a pencil eraser. The helmet did its job, saving my noggin' from a small rock. Could they decide to deny my warranty due to the ding?
    Bell Super 2R (non mips version) = same size as Bell Super 3R mips
    Bell Super 2R MIPS = slightly smaller than Bell Super 3R mips

    that's because on the Super 2R they added mips more as an afterthough, thus the Original Helmet shell got effectively smaller on the MIPS Version. The 3R was developed with MIPS in mind, I've got both a Super2R non mips (with the plastic pads removed) and Super 3R mips right here and both helmet are the same size.

    If the medium was on the verge of being too large, I'd order the Super 3R in small and remove a part of the cheek pads (they're "pre-sliced" now, just remove one slice to make them slightly thinner)

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post

    If the medium was on the verge of being too large, I'd order the Super 3R in small and remove a part of the cheek pads (they're "pre-sliced" now, just remove one slice to make them slightly thinner)

    good luck
    Thanks so much for the advice. I wasn't aware of the presliced pads. I wrote Bell back asking if my original email and the attachments sufficed as valid proof of purchase and how to initiate the warranty process. Maybe they'll respond next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRBent View Post
    Thanks so much for the advice. I wasn't aware of the presliced pads. I wrote Bell back asking if my original email and the attachments sufficed as valid proof of purchase and how to initiate the warranty process. Maybe they'll respond next week.
    Bell's warranty handlings are typically pretty stellar. I had 2 occasions to use it. First was after a year, my removable interior liner was getting a bit frayed at the forehead so I queried about a replacement even though I was out of warranty. They shipped me a freebie, no questions asked and I had it in a couple days! Second was when the visor pivot screws twisted off in the helmet within a few weeks. I called expecting them to just ship me some new screws but instead, since I'm local to Art's Cyclery, they called Art's and told them to just give me a whole new 2R. I had it that afternoon!

    Not sure if I understand exactly the grommet you speak of but I recall reading an issue that came up where they replaced numerous 2R's that had a grommet failure. It may be buried in this thread somewhere but it was a known issue and I'd bet you'll be taken care of.
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    Bell is starting to sound like Santa Cruz and DVO, awesome customer service and even better warranty handling. If they indeed had other grommet failures on the 2R helmets I hope they addressed that weak point when designing the 3R. I guess I should start daydreaming about which color scheme to ask for. What color do you think would compliment my skittles ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRBent View Post
    What color do you think would compliment my skittles ride?
    Bell Joyride 3R in Matte Cobalt/Pearl:

    http://m.vitalmtb.com/photos/feature...73/bturman,109

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    Ha, it's bad enough that my bike color scheme reminds me of my old MX racing days in the late 80's and early 90's when those colors were on the top riders. I doubt I'll be wearing a woman's specific helmet even if it does match. A guy has to draw the line somewhere. LOL

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    ^^^LOL!! idk if that's an insult or not?^^^ from what i can tell, IRbent is a dude. i myself like the 90's scheme, and i am not a chick for those helmets

    edit: never mind me, i got beat to the punch. i blame it on tequila and herb while listening to bad brains try and play dub. keep on kreepin' on

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    Sorry, judging by the colours, saddle and the way how thoughtfully it is assembled (loose cables, brake line routed outside fork arch..?) I thought it's a women's bike.

    Buy a men's bike next time, no confusion will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    ^^^LOL!! idk if that's an insult or not?^^^ from what i can tell, IRbent is a dude. i myself like the 90's scheme, and i am not a chick for those helmets

    edit: never mind me, i got beat to the punch. i blame it on tequila and herb while listening to bad brains try and play dub. keep on kreepin' on
    I like. LOL
    Maybe when some of these guys get my age they'll still be able to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    Sorry, judging by the colours, saddle and the way how thoughtfully it is assembled (loose cables, brake line routed outside fork arch..?) I thought it's a women's bike.

    Buy a men's bike next time, no confusion will happen.
    As for the cable routing, that's the way it came. I tried several WTB saddles and a Fabric Scoop before demo'ing this odd ass shaped Selle SMP saddle. No more monkey butt or chafed nuts, plus my ass can handle twice as many miles as it could with the other saddles. No, I don't like the way it looks. But I'm old enough to take function over pretty or popular. I shit canned my first wife after realizing pretty doesn't beat functional.

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    Only major components that are still stock on my bike is the Reverb dropper and SLX brakes.
    2015 Santa Cruz Bronson
    Only major components that are still stock on my bike, the Reverb dropper and SLX brakes.

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    I bought a 2R on sale and after some modifications am very happy with it. I bought a medium-sized which I am at the top of the sizing chart for. Had to remove the stick-on foam squares inside the liner and pad a few of the mips anchors. It is quite comfortable now and fits very securely with or without the Chin guard

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    Bell wrote me back today and asked me to send my Super 2R in for warranty replacement. What's the odds they'll put me in a Super 3R? I stopped by one of the LBS in hope of trying the 3R on but they didn't have any. Now I'm questioning the size to get. My 2R is a medium and a tad wiggly and my head measures 22".
    2015 Santa Cruz Bronson
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRBent View Post
    Now I'm questioning the size to get. My 2R is a medium and a tad wiggly and my head measures 22".
    try the small. When blood is coming from your head when you put the helmet on it's too tight fit

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    Has anyone tried modifying the straps to make them better? Never been a fan of Bell's strap system and the slick tubular strap never stays tight. I know theres no replacing the straps themselves but it would be cool if theres a way to outfit a new tightening system similar to Fox and Specialized helmets.

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    Just purchased the Bell Super 3R. Head circumference is 23 3/4" and the large fit perfectly.

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