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    What compares to a Nomad?

    Hello,
    I am looking into a new frame as my last one broke.

    The type of bike I am looking for is in the same style as a Nomad. The bike needs to have at least 6in of travel, run a 160mm fork, prefer a coil shock and be a decent climber. I am coming from a 5.5in bike with a slack seat angle (68.5deg) and about a 68deg head angle. I think the slackest head angle would be 66-67deg. Not sure about the seat angle.

    I know of a few:
    head angle seat angle
    Commencal Supreme 67 +/-1deg , 67deg
    Santa Cruz Nomad 67deg 71.5deg
    GT Sanction 66deg 71.8

    I am not sure of the cost of the Sanction but I know that both the Supreme and Nomad run for around $2000.

    I have only used the Nomad as a reference, as many people have one or know someone with one except for me!!!

    The bike needs to be able to climb well (going to Italy next summer) and needs to handle lift access centers (ride mainly at Bromont, which is quite rocky). Prefer to do drops over jumping (learning to jump).

    Any suggestions, keeping in mind the price, head & seat angles and style of riding.

    Sorry for the long post and many thanks for the advice.
    Eric

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    Just get the damn Nomad

    There are many rigs that compare to the Nomad, with the closest being an Intense 6.6. The Nomad will do all you are asking and more.
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    The 09 Sanction 1 is 4 grand, the the Sanction 2 is about 2300 if memory serves. Prices are on the website...

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    second that

    Get the Nomad! lots of guys ride em where i am, and you would be hard pressed to find more gnarly, rocky, rooty, bike eating terrain than what i ride. They rock! The new one just came out too... you can find awesome deals on nomads on ebay.

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    Maybe a Giant Reign?

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    M_S, I am looking for a frame only.
    Thanks for your replies.
    Eric

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    I had a Foes FXR 2.1 Great chasis, New one is 6.5. Curnut shock wasn't to my taste but the climbing traction was superb. Decided I wanted a trail bike that was a bit further away from my DH bike and so bought an Ibis Mojo. Awesome but probably not what you are after.

    I have also owned a Transition Preston. Super fun bike. Build is solid and ride is planted. Doesn't go up or down as well as the Foes but is a little bit more nimble. A total hoot.

    Of the guys I ride with there are a couple of nomads, an Iron horse 6point something and Iron Horse MkIII, me on my Mojo and an Intense 5.5 and a specilized SX. We all ride the same stuff so all the bikes are super capable

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    Iron Horse 6 Point.

    You can pick them up at a pretty decent price right now, and they are everything a Nomad is and perhaps more.

    I have owned a Nomad before and currently own a 6 Point, done up as a light duty FR bike, similar to how my Nomad was built. Dollar for dollar the 6 Point wins everytime. Both bikes pedal very well, take hits well, look great. For price of a Nomad frame, you can buy an entire 6 Point bike.

    As posted earlier the Reign is also a great bike for AM or the Reign X for more light duty FR.

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    I had looked at the 6Pt series but I would like to use my wheelset which is 135mm.
    They are nice bikes and definitely up to the task.
    Eric

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    A plug for some boutique bikes: Banshee Rune or Rocky Mountain Slayer SXC are also a couple of options for something different yet highly capable.

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    ScareyH22A,
    How much abuse can the Reign handle? I know the Reign X is built for abuse, but how about the 6in version of the Reign?
    Also, does a coil shock fit on the Reign? I assume it would as there is a DHX-Air on the stock bike.
    Eric

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    2009 GT Sanction Frameset: $1499.99 (for me 1200, heh heh heeehh.)
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    How about looking at the Turner RFX

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    I'd say the Banshee Rune is worth checking out, super stiff back end, reasonably light and a variety of rear shock choices, runs bushings with grease gun fittings, comes with spare pivot bushings, derailleur hangar and extra shock hardware. Price is a little less than a Nomad too.

    http://www.bansheebikes.com/bikes/rune.html

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    2nd that. Head-angle wise, the current RFX with a 160mm fork is ~67.5 degrees.
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    Reign

    I just picked up a new Reign and love it. It can definately handle some abuse and is pretty light weight.

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    Chumba Evo ......????
    Hold on 2 your f***n fillings !!!!!

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    Canfield One or Diggle...

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    Intense 6.6 w/CCDB

    Its times like this that I hate being a working class hero. (broke)

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    Ellsworth Moment
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    Turner RFX
    SC Nomad

    [edit]
    +1 also to Giant Reign, Trek Remedy
    Last edited by Spartacus Rex; 11-04-2008 at 12:19 PM.

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    trek remedy

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    Knolly Endorphin or future Pivot Firebird

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    Reign X

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    Looks nice but it is too small for me.
    Thanks anyways.
    Eric

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    Thanks everyone for your responses.
    You have given me lots of food for thought.

    fsrxc: Not sure if the Reign X is what I am looking for. I think the Reign 0 or 1 would be more up my alley. Isn't the Reign X more freeride?

    flipnidaho: The Canfield does look nice, but it is getting a little over my budget.

    catskillclimber: Which Reign did you purchase? The Reign X or Reign 0/1?

    Thanks once again and feel free to keep them coming. My spread sheet is getting bigger by the moment!
    Eric

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    Reign is complete bike only, no frames. Have to part it out. The Reign X can be frame only and is a bit more freeride (slacker / heavier).

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    Jack'sDad,
    I can get a great deal on an 09 Reign 1 and part it out. If I were to do that, I would be way under my budget and can get a new fork as well.
    Thanks for the heads up though.
    Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugbyred
    Jack'sDad,
    I can get a great deal on an 09 Reign 1 and part it out. If I were to do that, I would be way under my budget and can get a new fork as well.
    Thanks for the heads up though.
    Eric
    yeah, I agree. I think that the 09 Reign with its slacker head angle may be near perfect with a 160 travel fork. In stock trim with a 140 mm travel fork it has a 68 degree head angle and a low-ish bb hight, so with the longer fork it should be 66.5 head angle. I owned the 08 version and it had a standard 69 head angle and running a 160 travel fork made the handling feel very neutral. I had the "0" model which, when I sold the frame, left me with a great fork, wheelset, brakes and gears. Now I have a BLT2 built up and a Nomad on its way.

    Re Nomads, Im not sure that the latest version and the old version are going to be of the same ilk. As I understand it the old Nomads had a longer chain-stay length and shorter top tube both of which when combined with the slack head angle allowed good descending and ascending abilities (for a long travel bike). The new ones have gone shorter on the chain-stays and longer on the top tube.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daf0xDbZP8c

    Lapierre Spicy 316 may also fit the bill.

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    All great suggestions and great bikes.

    My suggestions would be an Ellsworth moment if you want the plush, fully active in all situations advatage of a true 4 bar.

    Nomad if you like the slight chain tensioning drive of vpp

    Orange alpine 160 for single pivot simplicity.

    If you want a real bargain. look at the specialzed pitch.

    Incidently Nomads have a steeper head angle this year as well as shorter stays and a longer top tube. more "all mountain" than previously.

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    My Nomad was built as a trail bike but.....

    I race my nomad for XC and doing a 6 hour this weekend. Also do DH shutle runs and have alot of fun. My rig is about 33lb with Lyriks Coil uturn is VERY versatile!

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