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    What Chainguide's are you guys using?

    So, I'm looking for a chainguide for my AM rig, and I'm not really quire sure what to get. I've used a blackspire stinger before, and while it was great, the chain would still jump off the middle ring (I run a 1x9 setup) and get lodged between my cranks and my frame. I've looked at the N-Gear Jumpstop and such, but I'd like to get an all in one piece to replace my stinger.

    What recommendations do you have? Oh, and my bike has ISCG OLD tabs.

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    I have the mrp mini g2 sl and love it. Never drop a chain and has proved to be pretty durable after many rock hits. E thirteen has many similar products but I have always like mrp for some reason

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    the e.13 xcx has served me well. never dropped a chain in the land of rocks.

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    Cant go wrong with Superstar Components - High Spec Parts For Peanuts

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    if you live in europe.

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    I have a Gamut. All the guides are pretty good.

    As this is the All Mountain forum, I think chain ring protection is a good feature. At least I get some use out of my bash guard. It also helps to the chain ring out of my leg when something inadvertent happens.

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    Gamut, E.13, MRP will all work amazingly good

    Ive a stinger on my 1x9 setup and works wonders, used it on 2x9 and also worked damn well

    A Buddy of mine runs his Jamis Parker (Full suspension, contrary to my HT) and also works perfectly i dont think hes ever dropped a chain.

    Off course, this is with the proper couple of links dropped from the chain..

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    I have a 1 x 9 setup and use E13 DRS combines with a N Gear Jump Stop. Once I wen 1x9 I was going to set a single ring chain guide but the DRS with one ring works perfect with the Jump Stop. Never drop a chain, almost no chain slap.
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    I have been running a Straitline Silent Guide. It's super smooth and awesome to look at! :P

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    I like the MRP G2 for no other reasons but looks, its a quality product, as im sure the other brands are also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTSession View Post
    I have a 1 x 9 setup and use E13 DRS combines with a N Gear Jump Stop. Once I wen 1x9 I was going to set a single ring chain guide but the DRS with one ring works perfect with the Jump Stop. Never drop a chain, almost no chain slap.
    i recently went to a similar setup but with a blackspire stinger and Jump Stop.

    it worked OK at first, but now the Jump Stop has begun to fail me on a fairly consistent basis. I just dont think they are up to the demands of AM riding. if i could take out a few more links, it might work, but i think im at the right chain length as it is

    I'm now going to end up geting kicked in the ass for trying a cheapo setup because I'm going to end up buying one of the tensioner/gude/guard all-in-ones...looking at MRP or E13

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    Since this topic is already at the top, I'm going to jump in and steal it for just a minute..

    Anyone have suggestions for a guide for a 1x9 that DOESN'T have ISCG mounts at all? Currently using square taper BB/cranks on a 32t ring.

    I was looking at a ring guard and a seat tube mounted chain catcher, but if there is a better alternative, I will look at it.



    To the OP's question, I have an E13 XCX on my Iron Horse, and it works perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petti the Yeti View Post
    Since this topic is already at the top, I'm going to jump in and steal it for just a minute..

    Anyone have suggestions for a guide for a 1x9 that DOESN'T have ISCG mounts at all? Currently using square taper BB/cranks on a 32t ring.

    I was looking at a ring guard and a seat tube mounted chain catcher, but if there is a better alternative, I will look at it.



    To the OP's question, I have an E13 XCX on my Iron Horse, and it works perfectly.
    i'm assuming you want a bash guard and/or roller of some sort, otherwise you'd just use another xcx?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'size View Post
    i'm assuming you want a bash guard and/or roller of some sort, otherwise you'd just use another xcx?
    I haven't seen an XCX for BB mounted setups, or I would probably get one. I don't have ISCG on this Banshee, and have no experience with BB mounts to know what to look for in one by myself..

    EDIT: LMAO I retarded myself there. Meant to say I was using an SRS on the Iron Horse.

    Just did a google on XCX and saw the BB mounted one. But it just looks like a guide, not the rollers like on the SRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petti the Yeti View Post
    I haven't seen an XCX for BB mounted setups, or I would probably get one. I don't have ISCG on this Banshee, and have no experience with BB mounts to know what to look for in one by myself..

    EDIT: LMAO I retarded myself there. Meant to say I was using an SRS on the Iron Horse.

    Just did a google on XCX and saw the BB mounted one. But it just looks like a guide, not the rollers like on the SRS.
    haha - it's all good.
    e.13 makes a bb mounted iscg plate you can use to attach iscg mounted guides. also mrp makes most if not all of their guides available in bb mount. should be plenty of options there.

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    I'm running a Race Face bash guard with a MRP non ISCG backplate. I am also using a smooth (non grooved) MRP roller which prevents any unnecessary chain twisting which I've experienced on the standard MRP roller. My setup works great with my 2x9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petti the Yeti View Post
    I haven't seen an XCX for BB mounted setups, or I would probably get one. I don't have ISCG on this Banshee, and have no experience with BB mounts to know what to look for in one by myself..

    EDIT: LMAO I retarded myself there. Meant to say I was using an SRS on the Iron Horse.

    Just did a google on XCX and saw the BB mounted one. But it just looks like a guide, not the rollers like on the SRS.
    Your square taper BB might not work with the BB mount guide or the BB mount to ISCG adapters. These types of parts sandwich between the drive side BB cup and the BB shell and many sq taper BBs are not designed to account for that extra ~2.5mm distance between the BB cups because the two sides of the bottom bracket are supposed to bottom out and tighten up against each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn View Post
    Your square taper BB might not be work with the BB mount guide or the BB mount to ISCG adapters. These types of parts sandwich between the drive side BB cup and the BB shell and many sq taper BBs are not designed to account for that extra ~2.5mm distance between the BB cups because the two sides of the bottom bracket are supposed to bottom out and tighten up against each other.
    this is a great point which i didn't take into account with my reply above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride the biscuit View Post
    the Jump Stop has begun to fail me on a fairly consistent basis
    i just bent jump stop back around over my bashguard with some pliers to form more of a "guide" than buffer. i figured I needed to upgrade anyways, but if this works ill report back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petti the Yeti View Post
    I haven't seen an XCX for BB mounted setups, or I would probably get one. I don't have ISCG on this Banshee, and have no experience with BB mounts to know what to look for in one by myself..

    EDIT: LMAO I retarded myself there. Meant to say I was using an SRS on the Iron Horse.

    Just did a google on XCX and saw the BB mounted one. But it just looks like a guide, not the rollers like on the SRS.
    i think you will need a seat tube mounted one. not much for a bb mount to lock into with no external bb.

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    sshhtraitline ssshhilent guide. pure moto goodness.

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    Alright guys, thanks for the replies on my question. The square taper BB was what I was afraid of; Not being able to lock the BB Brackets on.

    Guess I will have to stick to the seat tube clamp..

    /thread steal

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    None,overkill on a AM bike,two rings a bash guard and proper chain alignment and length = no dropped chains ever! just sayin,two are better then one.
    Last edited by techfersure; 08-08-2011 at 04:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    None,overkill on a AM bike,two rings a bash guard and proper chain alignment and length = no dropped chains ever!
    context of this thread is single ring setups, and those rarely work without a chainguide of some sort even on xc bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    None,overkill on a AM bike,two rings a bash guard and proper chain alignment and length = no dropped chains ever!
    except the discussion is about 1x9 setups, which without some sort of chain retention dropped chains aren't uncommon.

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    MRP mini- G2, converted to single ring up front, with 11-34 9sp. rear

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    Straitline Siltent Guard users ----->

    so the jump stop/stinger combo just isnt working for 1x9

    I'm leaning heavily towards the silent guard, but just have one question for you:

    is there any noticeable drag on the bottom tensioner due to the fact that there is no roller?

    aside from that one possible downside, it looks to be the most elegant and simplest solution...plus i like straitline

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    e13 LS1 and e13 SRS, I have liked both. But the Straitline is definitely my next guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride the biscuit View Post
    so the jump stop/stinger combo just isnt working for 1x9

    I'm leaning heavily towards the silent guard, but just have one question for you:

    is there any noticeable drag on the bottom tensioner due to the fact that there is no roller?

    aside from that one possible downside, it looks to be the most elegant and simplest solution...plus i like straitline
    less than zero. Seriously, absolutely great design. The slider is quiet and very efficient no matter what angle you set it at. Set it up best for your chainline with the spacers provided (you may not need them) and you are good to go. The moto slider makes sense to me. No pulley to worry about or maintain plus the slider allows a little more room as you go across the cassette for alignment. the only preference for you may be the bash guard. Some prefer the MRP system which bolts to the guide as opposed to the cr mount of the straitline. i don't see rock gardens often but i do see stair and concrete ledges on urban assault days and it has held up on my fails. Hope my info helps.

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    looks like Blackspire is coming out with a new 1x guide with integrated bash but doesnt got a roller..

    check out their page blackspire.com
    its the first pic..

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    1x9 as well and use a spot bash with n-gear guide. works well in real rocky areas.

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    In my question, you will find that I don't know anything about chainguides

    Are there any that I can use on my 2x10 X0 cranks? I have ISCG 05 tabs on my bike

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    N-Gear Jump Stop and a BBG. I also have a MRP chain guide for another frame I might build up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    i think you will need a seat tube mounted one. not much for a bb mount to lock into with no external bb.
    E type BB's have a lip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    None,overkill on a AM bike,two rings a bash guard and proper chain alignment and length = no dropped chains ever! just sayin,two are better then one.
    Glad it works for you, but that's not my experience. Regardless of how well your 2x drivetrain is set up there is still the possibility that the chain will drop from the middle to the small ring during really rocky descents at speed. If you notice, it's not that big a deal to shift back up. But eventually it will be at a really bad time, like right before you need to do a desperate pedal kick off an unexpected drop and find you are in your granny.

    I'll agree it's not all that frequent on a good setup, but it does happen.

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    +1 to that

    I have a 2X9 + bash and still drop the chain occasionally from middle ring to small. It doesnt happen often but when it does it is a huge pain in the ass. Rock gardens and cased landing are pretty much a surefire way to drop a chain even with a bash guard.

    Chain drop issues plus having to deal with chain slap has motivated me to look at going 1X9 with a dedicated guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronabrandt View Post
    E type BB's have a lip.
    yeah but not a very large one. they have maybe a 3 mm lip whereas an external bb has a cup height of about 1 cm. maybe you could make a bb mount work on an e type bb but it would be sketchy at best.

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    I have a Gamut Dual Ring for a 2X10 system that came stock on my Enduro. I don't know if its a P20 or P30, or probably a system that was developed just for Specialized. Anyway, I love it! I haven't had a chain fall off, and the bash has worked a few times on some big rocks. The plastic on the bash guard is abused, but that's way better than teeth on your chain ring.

    Unless another company produces a better 2x10 system, I'd buy another Gamut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    In my question, you will find that I don't know anything about chainguides

    Are there any that I can use on my 2x10 X0 cranks? I have ISCG 05 tabs on my bike
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    looks like gamut is testing a slider guide as well...

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    question about short/long der and chainguides

    so I ended up switching to a gamut p20 that a buddy was selling. So far it works really well and technically i have not dropped a chain once

    what I have done (only when going my fastest over chunk or big roots, bracing in DH mode, not pedaling) is get the top portion of the chain to slap down and get caught between my tire and my chainstay.

    would moving to a short cage der possibly prevent this from happening? i have already taken an extra link out, and doubt i can afford to take any more

    another solution is to find a rear tire that would leave just slightly more room so if the chain made it down there it would be able to come out while riding without stopping

    PS: i have already seen the short vs long cage thread...that is more about fit than getting an answer about slap and my specific question

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    Sorry, I couldn't help you biscuit.

    as for my own thoughts about a new chainguide/guard I'm considering MRP's new X2 guide.

    MRP Introduces the 2x Guide - Features - Vital MTB
    looks pretty good

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'size View Post
    looks like gamut is testing a slider guide as well...
    More intrigued by the carbon swingarm...thought we weren't gonna see that until Worlds
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