What bike would you choose and why? (Spitfire vs Bandit vs Lapierre vs YT)

[haakan]

I have a steel hardtail as my am bike now but I'm thinking about going over to full suspension.

My choices are as follow:
New frame and fork (150mm) only and use my hardware from my hardtail. Frame that are one top of the list are Banshee Spitfire and Transition Bandit. Maybe Butcher could be on the list depending on price.
New Lapierre Zesty 214 or Wicked 150 from YT-Industries.
YT got a sick spec for that kind or money. What do think?

[akiracornell]

well, i never rode it but based on specs, if i had the money i would get me a banshee. with a 150 fork the seatube is 73-74 degrees which would be good for my legs for climbing and the head angle would be 66-67 which is on the slacker side which would mow downhills. then if your focused on creating more sag you can change the rear shock position. my guess is if your running fox 32mm it would be on the steeper end of those specs while RS axle to crown is 10mm longer so a half a deg slacker, then if your running 36mm stanchions or a lyrick if would be on the slackest end of those specs. but technically never ridden any of them but just going by theory based on specs for me. i have discovered seatube angle influences my seat position to how i get aligned over the cranks. if its too slack i have to push the seat forward reducing top tube reach. i got get the cranks rite for pedaling effeciency for longer rides. i like slacker front ends.



just looked up the wicked150 and the geom is about the same; 1 degree steeper on headtube but that would foot the bill also for me also. It doesnt have the shock position change either but not that importance. If all your choices if they're all about the same geom, I would pick the one that catches your eye the best or the cheapest one. peace.

[akiracornell]

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[Gman086]

Spitfire is the lowest and slackest and the most fun bike I've ever owned. It isn't for everyone tho - if you ride a lot of terrain with large rocks the clearance thing may become an issue. I feel the suspension is also superior to the Horst Link of the Transition and Canyon. The LaPierre uses a DW link, as I recall, and should work great but it isn't as aggressive as the other bikes you list. Butcher - don't bother, not in the same class if you ask me (and I was even a SC fanboy for years).

Have FUN!

G MAN

[ferday]

the spitfire is sick, great geometry great suspension and great looks.

what else do you need

[WHALENARD]

The spitfire is the most progressive/geo 5" inch bike on the market that I know of. It's a very fun trail bike as stated, however all is not milk & honey. The pivots absolutely BLOW and the rockers are flexy noodles, ruining an otherwise awesome bike. Now, the bandit with some angle reducing cups (werks etc.) would probably be an awesome trouble free bike for the long haul. Don't know much about your other two, but if your used to a hardtail you may not like the HL on the zesty as they tend to squat under power.

[haakan]

Could I run a bigger fork on the Bandit? Like Fox 36 or Lyrik?

[in the trees]

Could I run a bigger fork on the Bandit? Like Fox 36 or Lyrik?

Yes. I have a Vengeance 160mm on mine.

[Gman086]

The spitfire is the most progressive/geo 5" inch bike on the market that I know of. It's a very fun trail bike as stated, however all is not milk & honey. The pivots absolutely BLOW and the rockers are flexy noodles, ruining an otherwise awesome bike. Now, the bandit with some angle reducing cups (werks etc.) would probably be an awesome trouble free bike for the long haul. Don't know much about your other two, but if your used to a hardtail you may not like the HL on the zesty as they tend to squat under power.

What the WHAT? The last thing the Spitty can be described as would be flexy! It tracks straighter than any AM bike I've ridden/rockers are short and stout as anything in the biz. The bushing issue has been a far FAR bigger problem on the 2011 Rune leading most to believe there was a problem with frame jig alignment. A lot of the bushing issues with Spittys comes from over-tightening the pivot bolts and not the design which has even been upgraded this year with keronite coatings on the pivot axles.

My 2 cents,

G MAN