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    Stepping up my game.

    The guy I ride with just ordered a new sx trail. Now itís my turn to get a new bike. I really like the sx but I do not want to get the same bike he has. Looking to something similar in every way including price. What do you guys think would be a good setup for me. looking for around 6Ē of travel but still want to be able to climb with it. Want to stay around 35lbs. Some suggestions would be great. Thanks.

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    Nomad.

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    Nomad.

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    Remedy
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    Nomad, Remedy, Reign X (most cost effective, also pedals the best), pivot firebird (looks absolutely sick, and probably pedals better then the Reign X)

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    nomad = 2 yr warrenty
    pivot = 2 yr warrenty
    sx = lifetime on front 1 year on chainstay and seatstay
    reign = lifetime
    remedy = lifetime + 5 year on bontrager parts
    reign and remedy are most cost effective and have best backing from the company.
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    Get the remedy, it looks really nice. If you are building it up you have a ton of color options

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryguy6631
    Get the remedy, it looks really nice. If you are building it up you have a ton of color options
    except they don't sell the remedy as a frame only.

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    Chumba EVO?
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    Reign X...like others have said it is the best value. I own an Enduro Pro(non SL) and am trying to convince my bud to buy a Reign as well.

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    Reign X

    If your buddy got an sx, you will want a reign x. Remedys are sweet, but won't be able to handle as much as a Reign X, and can't even be considered with the sx trail. Go read in the Trek forums about people using the Remedy for freeride, they are breaking frames and blowing shocks. Reign X is a sick ride and will still pedal better than your buddies SX.
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    reign x

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    Knolly Delirium T. 6"+ of travel. Adjustable geometry, adjustable chainstays. Stiffer than the SX and will climb better too. Building it to 35lbs would be tricky but can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c6corvettezo6
    If your buddy got an sx, you will want a reign x. Remedys are sweet, but won't be able to handle as much as a Reign X, and can't even be considered with the sx trail. Go read in the Trek forums about people using the Remedy for freeride, they are breaking frames and blowing shocks. Reign X is a sick ride and will still pedal better than your buddies SX.
    Whoa. There is one (1) person (thus not people) that broke one Remedy frame. And, unless you prove me wrong, no one is blowing shocks. What's happening is that the RP with the high volume chamber bottoms out easy.

    Talk about making a story out of nothing.

    With that said, the Reign X is (on paper) a stronger bike.

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    I am not trying to rip on the remedy, like i said, it is a sweet bike. It doesn't compare to the sx trail in any way though. It is the essence of an all mountain bike, climb well, descend fast.

    That being said, the reign x is stronger in real life too, not just on paper. You sacrifice weight for that strength. Between the reign x and the remedy, the reign x is much more comparable tot he sx trail than the remedy.

    As far as blown shocks and broken frames, my friend did both in the same month. I will see if I can get some pictures from him, but it was on some big ladder drops. My reign x and my other buddies nomad were fine on them. Might have been the rider more than the bike, but the remedy got worked. If you are really smooth you will be fine, if you are just getting into light freeride and heavier stuff, you probably won't be too smooth though.

    You could just get an sx trail like your buddy too, they are sweet bikes.
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    I said on paper, because I have no experience with that bike.

    Is your friend the one that posted on the Trek forum, or is that a different case?

    Freeriding the Remedy means pushing it to its limits. It's going to be easy to push above what it can do. Specially if the rider is not light and smooth.

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    he's already beat ya to it. just beat him to it next time

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    A remedy is not a 35 lb bike nor was it meant to be ridden like one. If you are going to be going up and coming down with some light freeride in between the sub-30 lb remedy would be great. if you are doing serious freeride and you live to throw your bike off stuff then the trek is not advised. Knolly Delirium T, Canfield the one, and my personal dream AM frame.. the Corsair Marque (http://www.corsairbikes.com/fly.aspx...=bike&taxid=61) are all fantastic choices.. really i dont think you can go wrong. Ride as many as you can and pick the one that feels best.
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    Throw the Chumba Evo in the mix for sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by surly_an_instigator
    nomad = 2 yr warrenty
    pivot = 2 yr warrenty
    sx = lifetime on front 1 year on chainstay and seatstay
    reign = lifetime
    remedy = lifetime + 5 year on bontrager parts
    reign and remedy are most cost effective and have best backing from the company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotfeat1227
    A remedy is not a 35 lb bike nor was it meant to be ridden like one. If you are going to be going up and coming down with some light freeride in between the sub-30 lb remedy would be great. if you are doing serious freeride and you live to throw your bike off stuff then the trek is not advised.
    Tell that to Brandon Semenuk.

    The frame will take similar abuse to a Nomad, the stock builds are just too light for people to realise it.

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    why no love for the regular reign? its 6 inches, and should out-climb a reign x.

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    The SX Trail is hard to beat.....possibly get another version of it to get a different color? Or buy the black frame build it up yourself? If the SX Trail is totally out of the question my order would be the Trek Remedy as a close 2nd, and the Nomad in 3rd.
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    I'm happy with my Jamis XAM.

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    all great bikes but sx can compare in climbing due to other bikes..it si simplx more fr bike then am

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmtroublemaker
    The guy I ride with just ordered a new sx trail. Now itís my turn to get a new bike. I really like the sx but I do not want to get the same bike he has. Looking to something similar in every way including price. What do you guys think would be a good setup for me. looking for around 6Ē of travel but still want to be able to climb with it. Want to stay around 35lbs. Some suggestions would be great. Thanks.
    Stepping up your game or keeping up with the Joneses?

    Needing a new bike because your buddy got one is kinda sad. Liking what he has but not getting it because he has one is even sadder. What are you guys, 16?

    Anyway, plenty of good suggestions here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c6corvettezo6
    If your buddy got an sx, you will want a reign x. Remedys are sweet, but won't be able to handle as much as a Reign X, and can't even be considered with the sx trail. Go read in the Trek forums about people using the Remedy for freeride, they are breaking frames and blowing shocks. Reign X is a sick ride and will still pedal better than your buddies SX.


    Believe everything you hear on the internet! this guy clearly knows what he's talking about!

    If you actually bother to READ the thread (clearly this guy has not), Jeng prefaces the thread with "I have broken every frame I have ever owned" and the dude rides hard, fast, and is a big guy.

    I'm also willing to bet specialized has sent a out a far higher percentage of new chainstays "broken SXT" CS anybody? Those things broke like cheese, they went through like two iterations of "new chainstay that fixes everything" and eventually built a new bike.

    The point of this isn't that specialized sucks. I hope nobody takes it that way. Its not that the SXT sucks. Its ALL that bikes will break eventually when you ride them hard and frequently, especially if you're a big guy and its a 5-7 lb frame. They all have lifetime warranties, and all of them can handle "going bigger."

    And as far as "blowing out shocks" it comes with a high volume air can. It doesn't "blow out" it is a linear stroke all the way through, and if you want it to be more progressive, there are several easy (and extremely inexpensive) mods you can do. Did you know that most DH bikes these days have a pretty linear to slightly progressive rate? Its because bikes track better and sit higher in the travel with a linear rate. It doesn't "blow through its travel" which is I assume what you meant, not "blowing out shocks" (I haven't heard of any blown out shocks), its just a slightly more progressive bike is more ideal for big drops and jumps.

    I haven't heard of a single shock actually blowing out, and if I ever do, I'll put the problem on fox's shoulders. Guess what shocks the SXT/Reign X come with. I guess I should probably tell you, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The SXT comes with a DHX4 (although they claim its a 5, they remove the BO adjuster which distinguishes the 4 from the 5, so in actuality they're lying to you and charging more money then the shock is worth) and the reign X comes with a DHX4 or 3 depending on what level you get. All Fox shocks.

    Also a pretty bold statement to suggest that its nowhere near the level of the reign X, which is nowhere near the level of the SXT. While I'm sure you've actually ridden these bikes and owned all of them for years and ridden them at expert/pro level all that time, I'm going to go ahead and say your feedback sounds like you have a big c**k in your mouth and have no idea what you're talking about. People ride their reign X's as hard as anybody on an SXT on a pretty regular basis. The remedy is a bit of a newer design and doesn't have the same market share, and if it were me I'd probably go with a Reign X or SXT over a remedy if I was riding crankworks every day, but for everything and anything else, the remedy will be more the sufficient.

    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta
    Stepping up your game or keeping up with the Joneses?

    Needing a new bike because your buddy got one is kinda sad. Liking what he has but not getting it because he has one is even sadder. What are you guys, 16?

    Anyway, plenty of good suggestions here.
    I don't know if that's fair to say man, if he's on a little bike right now like a trance or stumpjumper or mojo (or something along those lines) and he decides he wants to start hucking it, doing more jumps drops and pushing it harder on the descents, where climbing isn't as much of an issue, it makes sense. I know that if all of my riding buddies had trail bikes, I'd probably be on a trail bike, but since most of us have DH or FR bikes, we all ride the same bikes so we can ride the same trails and hit the same stunts.

    Anyway, some good advice in here, and some useless posts flaming bikes that don't deserve it. I guess thats the AM forum.

    Edit: hahaha, I just re-read this, it looks like I'm trying to sell you on the remedy. I'm not. I think its a great AM bike with big hit capability, but there are plenty of other bikes out there that are great. I'm actually just trying to sell you on not listening to that dude.
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    Cannondale Moto =lifetime warranty

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    Turner RFX. You can get a used frame and still have the warranty backed by the best CS.

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    Reign....just picked up my 2nd one

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