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    Sr Suntour Durolux forks?

    Hello!

    I just bought an Intense Tracer Vp, with all the bells and whistles I could afford! It's gonna have a fox 32 FIT RLC Kashima TALAS QR15 150mm tapered bla bla bla! phew! So I got the front end covered.....for trail riding....but how about for some very light free riding I could do @ mammoth or maybe north star at tahoe? I would definitely want a larger fork!

    My dad can get some sr suntour stuff for cheap...and he told me those guys had a long travel fork...So looking @ their website I found the Durolux...with tapered steerer, 180 to 140 infinite travel adjust, air spring, cool aesthetics, and 20mm QR axle. Doesn't sound that bad....

    2009 fork reviews, send the fork to the stone age...pretty bad IMO, but this wouldn't be my main fork, so I would like to know if anybody has tried the newer stuff...

    I'm riding hope hubs so I can swap the end caps from qr15 to 20mm so thats no problem.

    Would this fork be worth the try? I can't get it free, so theres some loss if it turns out sh*tty...So help me out guys...and be honest, and don't comment just to thrash the brand just because your some fox freak, or rock shox junkie ok?

    Thanks much guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    , or rock shox junkie ok?
    i've used it and... oh, that discludes me... i'll keep my trap shut... sorry.
    I like cheap stuff that works great and is very sturdy.

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    Google it. Even recent reviews are saying there is no damping. Basically, it's a beginner's fork that's nowhere near as good as a domain 180.

    Oh yeah, they still fall apart while riding. Too bad; I would have gotten one cheap and retrofitted damper parts from zoke or fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg
    i've used it and... oh, that discludes me... i'll keep my trap shut... sorry.
    hahaha don't worry, I'm just trying to be funny that's all!

    Yeah, the price and reputation really says it all....If I can get it for cheap...and I mean CHEAP, I'll give it a try....if it goes a little beyond the cheapness that I'm thinking off, I'll just save some money and get a used Fox 36 or RS Lyric with a tapered steerer!
    I mean, I'm investing big money on the Fox 32...So I'm really not looking to spend a lot on another fork just to have it as a longer travel spare and having a fox 36 (even a light float) as my main fork is too heavy and tall for the kind of riding I do.

    Oh, and I've been looking for reviews and all I found were two read worthy reviews...1 from bike taiwan or something, and another from bikeradar....both thrashing the fork. So...

    Is it just the damping....or does it really fall apart from riding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    hahaha don't worry, I'm just trying to be funny that's all!

    Yeah, the price and reputation really says it all....If I can get it for cheap...and I mean CHEAP, I'll give it a try....if it goes a little beyond the cheapness that I'm thinking off, I'll just save some money and get a used Fox 36 or RS Lyric with a tapered steerer!

    Oh, and I've been looking for reviews and all I found were two read worthy reviews...1 from bike taiwan or something, and another from bikeradar....both thrashing the fork. So...

    Is it just the damping....or does it really fall apart from riding?
    Well, if you're thinking that price is the factor for you to try and throw at it, then you don't need assistance from others, and you didn't need to post this thread. You're only finding reviews in english, but it was panned around the world, in different languages. The german forums have some info onthat, with suntour joining and promising that the problems were glitches.

    Anyhow, you're set on it only because of price, so get one, and enjoy. Hope you have good dental and medical. Copays should be factored into operating costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junktrunk
    Hope you have good dental...
    Dad's a Dentist
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    I'm pretty much covered!

    I'm just trying to investigate a little about those forks...As a spare fork...
    But hey I don't want my teeth broken, or any ribs breaking! I'll probably should stick with a nice used fox or Rock Shox!
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    It doesn't have damping.

    It falls apart.

    What else do you want in a suspension fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by junktrunk
    It doesn't have damping.

    It falls apart.

    What else do you want in a suspension fork?

    Sounds bad man!
    I'll try to stay away from those forks then

    Thanks junktrunk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    Dad's a Dentist
    Mom's a Dentist
    I'm a Dentist
    why are you concerned what it costs?
    I like cheap stuff that works great and is very sturdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg
    why are you concerned what it costs?
    +1


    Dentist budget fork is the Dorado, have a look.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    Do you prefer sugarless gum for your patients who chew gum?

    Were you even contacted in that survey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg
    why are you concerned what it costs?
    I knew someone was gonna say that!


    I'm not finished yet...with school. I still have a little bit to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker
    Do you prefer sugarless gum for your patients who chew gum?

    Were you even contacted in that survey?

    Sugarless gum all the way!
    IMO chewing gum alone is bad for your teeth...but hey if you like chewing gum like I do, might as well be sugarless...

    And no, I don't work in the US, I work in Mexico. So no survey for me
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    i parking lot rode one. i was surprised how smooth the air spring felt, didnt notice any stiction.

    besides that, it has poo damping. whats falling apart on them? it would be a nice fork with some kind of franken damper stuffed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    I knew someone was gonna say that!


    I'm not finished yet...with school. I still have a little bit to go.
    You do realize that it's not only unethical to claim you're a dentist, as you did above, but illegal in many places? Do you do that in real life, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by junktrunk
    You do realize that it's not only unethical to claim you're a dentist, as you did above, but illegal in many places? Do you do that in real life, too?
    you cant be serious.. really, no one cares

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    Is a Fox32 totally the wrong choice for light freeride? I'm just a trail rider so I wouldn't know, just curious if you would kill a Fox32 by using it that way.

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    light freeride is like saying light getting mauled by a bear. it kinda is or it isnt.

    if you're not freeriding or dirt jumping it, it'll be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olijay
    Is a Fox32 totally the wrong choice for light freeride? I'm just a trail rider so I wouldn't know, just curious if you would kill a Fox32 by using it that way.
    well I was considering a "heavier duty" fork for park riding or "light" freeriding...Larger jumps, drops, etc.

    I guess the fox 32 will do, but it's always better to have a larger fork in those situations right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by junktrunk
    You do realize that it's not only unethical to claim you're a dentist, as you did above, but illegal in many places? Do you do that in real life, too?
    calm down man!

    I finished my studies, I'm a dentist by diploma, I graduated...plus I'm not using this forum to promote myself...

    Let's just not talk about profession, work, etc. Someone mentioned teeth, and I said I didn't need Dental....Forgive me

    now....back to bikes?

    And no...it's not unethical to say I'm a Dentist, when I just graduated mkay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Pivot
    you cant be serious.. really, no one cares
    THANK YOU One Pivot.....this is a biking forum right? Jeez
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    The Durolux

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/23352981?color=bc00f0" width="540" height="304" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/23352981">The suntour durolux</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user5268013">Nicholas Poetker</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p>A new fork for my Double!<br />The Suntour Durolux lowered from 180mm to 130mm to suit my double as an all around trial fr bike!<br />RideOn!</p>




    I lowered the durolux to 135 and she working like a charm on my double!
    RidEOn!

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    the new rca damper i think it is in the durolux looks pretty nice. if you can get it for free i say why not.

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    The damper in the Suntour is topnotch.
    Its really easy to overhaul and change the oil.
    I just bought the fork last week and raised the oil level a bit for a better progressive rate.
    The air system is very smooth and the entire fork ride just like my fox 36 float.

    The Durolux is a great fork for anyone and the stroke is super smooth.
    I was blown away at how smooth the fork is.
    RideOn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    And no, I don't work in the US, I work in Mexico. So no survey for me
    So you are not really a dentist, you just knock peoples teeth out with a rock?

    Kidding!

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    anyone who puts suntour on an Intense frame should be shot and then stabbed in the eye.
    it's like putting shitty walmart wheel covers on a ferrari.
    Consequences dictate our course of action and it doesn't matter what's right. It's only wrong if you get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    anyone who puts suntour on an Intense frame should be shot and then stabbed in the eye.
    it's like putting shitty walmart wheel covers on a ferrari.
    a fairly stupid statement considering the knolly team rides suntour

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    I have been waiting for reviews on the RCA damper. If it works as good as it should, Suntour might be able to turn around the low end stigma attached to their name.

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    The RCA damper is awesome man!
    Its very effective and smooth.
    The rebound works like it should and the compression goes from plush to a soft bobless feeling in 10 clicks, there are 15 clicks of compression overall.
    The damper itself splits into 2 and is really simple to change the oil.
    I filled my with scram 5wt and its working great.
    As for the air spring its the same you will find on alot of forks now.
    I have been riding a fox 36 180mm for the last year and the overall feeling is very very close.
    Im astonished at its performance and very nice quality in construction.

    Like any fork its takes time to adjust it perfectly, same with my 36 which cost 3 times the amount of the Durolux.
    If the long term test of hard riding, jumping and fun in the sun I have no need to purchase another high end name brand again!

    The Durolux is awesome!
    RidEOn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholas poetker
    The RCA damper is awesome man!
    Its very effective and smooth.
    The rebound works like it should and the compression goes from plush to a soft bobless feeling in 10 clicks, there are 15 clicks of compression overall.
    The damper itself splits into 2 and is really simple to change the oil.
    I filled my with scram 5wt and its working great.
    As for the air spring its the same you will find on alot of forks now.
    I have been riding a fox 36 180mm for the last year and the overall feeling is very very close.
    Im astonished at its performance and very nice quality in construction.

    Like any fork its takes time to adjust it perfectly, same with my 36 which cost 3 times the amount of the Durolux.
    If the long term test of hard riding, jumping and fun in the sun I have no need to purchase another high end name brand again!

    The Durolux is awesome!
    RidEOn!

    When you changed the oil in the damper cartridge, did you have access to the compression shim stack? If the shim stack is user tunable (and everything holds up to some abuse over time), it sounds like they may have a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    a fairly stupid statement considering the knolly team rides suntour
    yup. and they're paid to do so. doesn't change the fact they ride a crap fork.
    just like the golf pros who are paid to play Cleaveland clubs. they're paid to play them, and they're still junk.
    once this Durolux passes the test of time, then maybe i'll believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119
    When you changed the oil in the damper cartridge, did you have access to the compression shim stack? If the shim stack is user tunable (and everything holds up to some abuse over time), it sounds like they may have a winner.
    their qr axle system is pretty slick too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    yup. and they're paid to do so. doesn't change the fact they ride a crap fork.
    just like the golf pros who are paid to play Cleaveland clubs. they're paid to play them, and they're still junk.
    once this Durolux passes the test of time, then maybe i'll believe.
    have you ridden one? if not then you dont have a clue one way or another.

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    i've seen plenty of other suntour products that were total *****, so this fork probably follows suit.
    if it is actually quality, i'd be suprised. in most cases, once junk always junk.
    Consequences dictate our course of action and it doesn't matter what's right. It's only wrong if you get caught.

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    Yes, there are two shim stacks one on the bottom for the rebound and then a compression shim stack on top for compression, then there is a oil regulator in the middle that regulates the flow between the two!

    I didnt change anything with the shims yet and it seems to be riding very nice with 5wt oil.
    The rebound goes from very slow to popping fast like most other forks.
    Then the compression is very supple all the way open and becomes very stiff as you wind it down.
    All in all it is a winner!

    the 20mm axel is very simple, it blows others away, both fox and marzocchi have great qr systems but this is much faster and very stiff.

    I will post more riding videos as I ride!
    But here in Japan we are stuck in typhoon weather until Friday! No riding!



    RidEOn!

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    Dude your so negative over a fork you have never even tried.

    I have and still ride a fox 36 180mm on my banshee rune and I can honestly say the internals of the Durolux is the same but, with a full aluminum damper unlike the fit cartridge which has a rubber bladder that will never stand the test of time over full metal parts.
    The exterior of the fork is burly and has some nice lines.

    This is an aftermarket top quality fork being sold at a great price.
    Dont confuse it with the OEM models from suntours with elastomer dampening.

    Im a big dude and ride hard, if this fork last 10-12 months under me it will last most people 2-3 years.
    My fox after 10 months is riding very smooth but she is poping and creaking very badly.
    If I have to replace my suspension every year I would like to go as inexpensively as I can with a smooth action fork!

    I have just started riding it last week and the video I uploaded was just 2 hours around my neighborhood. So, like you said I too am leery about the test of time but, the build quality and parts used are just as good as any fox or marzocchi I have ever owned!

    I will test her to a bloody pulp and let you boys know how she holds up.
    so far its a smooth fully adjustable fork!
    RideOn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    i've seen plenty of other suntour products that were total *****, so this fork probably follows suit.
    if it is actually quality, i'd be suprised. in most cases, once junk always junk.
    Yes, you have, but your somewhat clueless about the high end products they have recently come out with. It's well known and talked about how suntour does a ton or oem low end stuff for budget bikes, recently they have introduced and high end suspension product to the market, that is what is being talked about here. I can't speak for the performance of it yet, but I'm pulling for it to be a winner. Another player in the quality suspension game means better innovation and hopefully lower prices through more competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholas poetker
    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/23352981?color=bc00f0" width="540" height="304" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/23352981">The suntour durolux</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user5268013">Nicholas Poetker</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p>A new fork for my Double!<br />The Suntour Durolux lowered from 180mm to 130mm to suit my double as an all around trial fr bike!<br />RideOn!</p>




    I lowered the durolux to 135 and she working like a charm on my double!
    RidEOn!
    Dude you sure can ride but get somebody to help you out with those cables and hoses, unless your doing mad bar spins.
    Whats this line for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronabrandt
    Dude you sure can ride but get somebody to help you out with those cables and hoses, unless your doing mad bar spins.



    hahahhahahhahah
    Thank you bro!
    My cables are fine, I have had them like this for many years now and yes to do bar spins.
    there was one bar spin in the video of just the fork!
    RideOn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    i've seen plenty of other suntour products that were total *****, so this fork probably follows suit.
    if it is actually quality, i'd be suprised. in most cases, once junk always junk.
    You're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blksocks
    You're an idiot.
    funny, that's what you're mom was saying about you this morning
    Consequences dictate our course of action and it doesn't matter what's right. It's only wrong if you get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    funny, that's what you're mom was saying about you this morning
    You're too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    i've seen plenty of other suntour products that were total *****, so this fork probably follows suit.
    if it is actually quality, i'd be suprised. in most cases, once junk always junk.
    you are not the sharpest guy huh? i have seen plenty of crap oem rockshox, i guess that means they all suck. x fusion too, didnt they start as oem crap? suck suck suck.

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    Well.

    I have mixed feelings about this fork.

    I owned a 2008 model of that beast. Very well built, very solid, very light. Seriously, I was impressed. However it also proved to have serious brake-dive issues and its small bump sensitivity was very poor - lots of stanchion stiction. Good freeride fork tho - very progressive.

    I sold the beast and bought NOS marzo z150fr.

    However, later i saw some vids on the 2009 model which had simply phenomenal sensitivity, like here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpI_2Q7wZsw

    I am tempted the sf10 RCA Tapered model, but still cannot force myself to believe it will not be as much of a failure as the one I had.

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    Like any manufacture they slowly upgrade the quality of their products over time.
    2008 to 2011 has 3 years of technology put into the fork. I dont know much about the 08 model but the durolux 2011 is very plush and has very little stiction.
    The video you provided showed a very smooth acting fork with a nice stable ride that was eating all the small chatter and ramped up for some the square edge hits.

    For the 2011 model that I have its a single chamber air spring so, one way to avoid excessive fork dive is to add more oil inside the air chamber.
    The same which I had to do to my fox float as well.
    This makes the air chamber smaller giving a firmer standing progressive rate with a nice ramp up, (just like when adding more air to your IFP chamber on your rear shock). I add just enough oil that I still get full travel but there is no bottom out just a soft bottomless feeling.
    Also it has a very tunable low speed compression damper which will help fork dive right away. Full open is very plush for some rocky DH and then 6-10 clicks give a good dampened stroke. I keep mine at 4-8 clicks for FR and DH and then 10 for climbing.
    The same amount of compression I use on my fox with the fit damper as well.

    Im seriously when I say it feels just as smooth as my 2011 fox 36 float, aahahhahhahah
    Im blown away. Im even using exactly same amount of air pressure. 90psi for 200lbs rider.

    I bought this fork on a whim after researching it and if lower end forks have become this great I personally dont need to purchase a top end fork again.

    The build quality is congruent to other brands on the market. As you know from your 08 model.
    Dont get me wrong I love all suspension and all the brands.
    But I have found a fork that rides jsut as good as the top brands with a much more affordable price!
    Like I have stated before the long term test of this fork is still has to prove its self.
    I have been on 2 boxxers, 3 66's of different year models both air and coil, 2 55's, z-150's, DJpers, and well the list goes on. pikes, psylos, dukes, hahahahahahaha


    RideOn!

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    ^how long have you been on it?

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    When I get a FR bike I might be tempted to buy this and drink da koolaid.
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    I have had her for about 2 weeks now.
    The video was my very first ride and out of the box there was no stiction with the seals.

    One gripe so far is the rebound adjuster does not have detents, its just a free twist but so was my 55 ata! a 800 dollar fork.

    Time will tell how reliable she is but, like I said the internals are made of all metal with some nice features that make it really easy to service.
    The build is of quality so, Im confident it will be a good fork for a while now.

    Here in Japan we just had a typhoon pass by so I was in 5 days of pure rain and heavy summer like humidity.
    I will get some more rides on her and some more video footage as well.
    RideOn!
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