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    Quote Originally Posted by focotacoma View Post
    It will be really minimal 165 to 175 is a slight change 170 to 175 is almost nothing. I have 175 XT on my 575 (trail bike) and Saint 170 on my play bike but I switched them over before I got the frame for my play bike and rode saints on my 575, it looked goofy but if anything the pedaling improved (especially because I get fewer rock strikes on techie climbs
    Thanks FC, really appreciate it!. My pedals may last a bit longer as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by focotacoma View Post
    It will be really minimal 165 to 175 is a slight change 170 to 175 is almost nothing. I have 175 XT on my 575 (trail bike) and Saint 170 on my play bike but I switched them over before I got the frame for my play bike and rode saints on my 575, it looked goofy but if anything the pedaling improved (especially because I get fewer rock strikes on techie climbs
    I don't agree with this at all. 165 to 175 is a huge change. Your feet are almost an inch closer together when in attack position. The difference in leverage is very noticeable. I can tell the difference between 172.5 and 175. 170 may be worth it if you are getting a lot of pedal strikes but you will notice the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity View Post
    I don't agree with this at all. 165 to 175 is a huge change. Your feet are almost an inch closer together when in attack position. The difference in leverage is very noticeable. I can tell the difference between 172.5 and 175. 170 may be worth it if you are getting a lot of pedal strikes but you will notice the difference.
    Sorry I should have rephrased that.....165-175 is a much more noticeable change than 170-175 for me on the SB66. I do have pretty strong legs (so I don't really notice leverage differences). In terms of attack position I think it's very personal a like my feet together (having my feet farther apart feels awkward) especially on gnarly stuff. It all depends on your balance and riding stance. I ride slightly towards the back of the ball of my foot (i ride platforms typically), foot position is a bit different if you ride small surface clip less pedals (like most spd pedals (i.e. xtr)). However the OP uses mallets so I think that his foot position is closer to what I'm talking about.

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    I've got a roadbike with powercranks for training, i made them really short ,140mm. i think now i'd love to have cranks nearly that short for dh, pedals wouldn't hit on anything, go with lower gearing drop a couple teeth off the chainring, for leverage(it's the same thing) and you can spin them way faster.

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    Saints on sale at Jenson USA

    For anyone looking for Saint cranks with a granny ring...Jenson has them on sale for $299. The listing for the cranks is M810.

    I just received mine and they actually are M810-2 with 22 / 36 rings and a bash guard in 175mm arm length. Planning to pair these with a 10 speed rear and Blackspire 26/36 rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    For anyone looking for Saint cranks with a granny ring...Jenson has them on sale for $299. The listing for the cranks is M810.

    I just received mine and they actually are M810-2 with 22 / 36 rings and a bash guard in 175mm arm length. Planning to pair these with a 10 speed rear and Blackspire 26/36 rings.
    Nice, Lee. I got mine (810-2's) thru Blueskycycling for only $239.98 a month ago. Ditched the bash and stock rings for my e-13 Turbocharger bash and 36/24 Blackspire rings as well (So MUCH better than Shimano rings) as they are much stronger, last MUCH longer and keeps the chain on way better when not using a chain device and front der. like I am. The chain would bounce off the stock rings way too easily for me when descending any tech/rough trails at speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    Mine weren't tapped but I tapped them myself and added a few spacers and run a small ring. The holes are the right size for the tap.
    modifier, I was runing into the same issue on my girlfrind's scythe which has 810-1 crank and I wanted to add 22T. tap the 2 top hole not an issue but how did you do the bottom two??
    Also can you remember what size of spacer did you use?

    here is mine:
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    Mistery solved if someone interested....

    All 4 hole easily cuttable size of tap : M8x0.75 can be find on fleabay or machine shops

    you will need longer bolt as well as spacer /I was using audi/vw tdi exhaust manifold washer
    as they were off the shelf . fit perfectly for me and it's stainles steel

    I can not upload pics some reason will try later

    thanks

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