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    suspension set-up aside did you like the Meta fit? If so, did you compare stack and reach on it to the Yeti? if it feels small to you then it is. I think on mtbs or any off road two wheeler it's more important how you fit standing than sitting on it cuz when you're really "riding" it in its enviroment you're standing and moving constantly. Like the other replies, it sounds like your comfort and confidence belongs on a medium..atleast on a 575.
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    For 5'8 you should be on a medium frame. To OP, why would you get a small frame and compensate it with a long stem, try a medium frame with 70mm stem and wide bar. Also, medium frame have a longer wheelbase and it will be MORE stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster
    Thanks for the clarification.
    I have to say once again that this bike is not that much unstable, it was just my feeling (and maybe I have not enough words to explain it finely since it's not my mother language). For sure Eatdrinkride, your trail IS technical !
    So do you think that trying a 100 or 110 stem could solve my problem? And sorry if I follow(ed?) my lbs advice, it's just they are Yeti "specialists" where I live...
    Thanks again for the replies
    In my experience, it's unfortunately a rare store that you can really rely on for good sizing advice.

    I'm 5'9" and ride an older style 575 Medium (a tiny bit shorter than the current Mediums) and a 70mm stem. I could be just as happy on a newer Medium and a 60mm stem.

    I would not ride anything technical with a 100+mm stem. Recently injured myself pretty painfully on my XC bike with an 100mm stem- went OTB and I could tell that the long stem was a pretty major factor.

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    I tried to find the "reach and stack" of both Meta5 and Yeti 575, but didn't find it. all the measures are pretty close, between the Commencal size M and Yeti size S. That's why for me it should have come from something else.
    I ride my saddle backward (I have long legs for my size, 32.7", or 83cm. Could it be the problem? Maybe with a good surgery...!), with an offset (from the Joplin seatpost).
    Anyway, I'll try very soon some good choice of stem: 90,100,110mm, with 0 or 6 angle (I can test it, so let's go!).
    The Meta5 carbon could be an option, but I'm sure that the 575 is a killer. The rear suspension feels really good (sorry to say: not as good as the Commencal, buuut...) and the climbing efficiency is really impressive, way far from everything all mountain I tested, even if I fill it twitchy now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nice Guy
    The top picture is from a feature on National Trail at SoMo (Phoenix, AZ) and I believe the 2nd is from Portal Trail in Moab, UT. Having ridden both trails extensively I'm pretty confident in my assessment...

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    There's nothing wrong with a 100 or 110 stem on your bike, your bike shop person is speaking in generalizations, and even with that in mind I don't fully agree. It is certainly worth trying. I would also drop your stem down to the lowest position in the headset stack you can and try it there. I also felt the front end of the 575 would wander a bit more than I liked, but lowering it should help a touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster
    I tried to find the "reach and stack" of both Meta5 and Yeti 575, but didn't find it. all the measures are pretty close, between the Commencal size M and Yeti size S. That's why for me it should have come from something else.
    I ride my saddle backward (I have long legs for my size, 32.7", or 83cm. Could it be the problem? Maybe with a good surgery...!), with an offset (from the Joplin seatpost).
    Anyway, I'll try very soon some good choice of stem: 90,100,110mm, with 0 or 6 angle (I can test it, so let's go!).
    The Meta5 carbon could be an option, but I'm sure that the 575 is a killer. The rear suspension feels really good (sorry to say: not as good as the Commencal, buuut...) and the climbing efficiency is really impressive, way far from everything all mountain I tested, even if I still feels techy problems...
    It may not be sizing that is the most influential factor. I'm 5'8" - 5'9" and size medium for most bikes. My meta 6 was a small. Commencal's have short TT's and the bike was very small and great fun. I rode it with a 50mm stem so it would handle well. As you get longer and longer on the stem, the bike will climb better and ride worse going at speed. The 575 is killer for some people. For me (and maybe for you as well), it sucks! (well by comparison anyway). But it sounds like you really want the yeti to work out - so I hope it does.
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    I think going from a commencal to a yeti is a step down in ride quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axolotl
    It may not be sizing that is the most influential factor. I'm 5'8" - 5'9" and size medium for most bikes. My meta 6 was a small. Commencal's have short TT's and the bike was very small and great fun. I rode it with a 50mm stem so it would handle well. As you get longer and longer on the stem, the bike will climb better and ride worse going at speed. The 575 is killer for some people. For me (and maybe for you as well), it sucks! (well by comparison anyway). But it sounds like you really want the yeti to work out - so I hope it does.
    Cheers
    I think going from a commencal to a yeti is a step down in ride quality.
    Yep, for sure I want the Yeti to work...! It's just that when you buy a (good, imo) frame, you want to try everything to make it work. As soon as you have tried everything, and nothing works for you, Ok you can say it sucks. But I'm not that far in my experimentation with the 575.
    What you say about Commencal and Yeti is pretty interesting, as it is exactly the opposite here in Europe. But I have to say I don't prefer one brand or the other, since my mtb is a Yeti, and my downhill bike a Supreme

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    Hello folks,
    after 200miles testing, I'm near something very good (and so, I have to be sorry about my previous feelings!): I have right now a 100mm Thomson stem, 0 angle, an Easton Haven bar, and the saddle has been move forward. As results: wayyyyyyyy better climber for me (in fact, very good), more stable in downhills, faster everywhere.
    So, I think I will keep this 575 at home, really!
    My only "final" problem is that I have a bit to much pressure on my hands, so after some miles, it can be painful. But with a shorter stem, it's not as good. What could I try?
    Thanks everybody!

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    Id say give a medium frame a test ride, preferably with similar components, see how she behaves and draw your own conclusions, that should help. I also think its too small a size for you..

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    That bike is sexy as hell, definitely isn't the bike. Based on the sizing charts and geo you should be on a medium. I'm 5'11 and I should still be on a medium. It looks like the small is just too small.

    If you look at ETT or measurement B on Yeti's website it says 22.8 for the small and 23.8 for a medium. Use this measurement to compare from your past bikes you thought were comfortable.

    ETT isn't an end all be all measurement but it is really good for cockpit spacing when buying a new bike and comparing it to your last. My friends are dumbasses and say I should be on a large when the ETT is like 24.5 just because I'm 5'11. So don't always look at the sizing charts, but in this case, Yeti's chart is pretty true to sizing.

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    anyone mention the possibility of a different bottom bracket height? Higher (if so) often feels unstable.

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