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    Prostate friiendly saddles...

    I am in the market for a "prostate friendly" saddle for my Trek hardtail mtn bike. The two seats I am looking at now are Koobi and Adamo. Are there any other note worthy saddle companies that I am missing? I am looking for a saddle company that has some sort of AMA recommendation as I do not want to pour $150+ into a seat that does not work.
    Do any of you have any experience with Koobi or Adamo? Any pros and cons? Are there any other saddles that I overlooked? As of now I am leaning more towards the ISM Adamo Peak saddle but would like to get input from those experienced with a prostate friendly saddle...

    Thanks for your help!
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    I might add that I am looking for a good "prostate-noassatall" friendly saddle...LOL!

    Thanks for any and all help.
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    Those Adamo's are some funky looking saddles.
    All the big saddle makers have the prostate friendly design these days (gap in the middle). WTB, Selle Italia, Specialized, etc.
    I don't know how much medical evaluation or certification they all have, but
    I've used a couple of Specialized Body Geometry saddles that I've found to be more comfortable than others I've owned, and Specialized says their saddles are medically tested and proven etc.

    http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...d=saddles_tech

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    Hardtail-Prostrate friendly????

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    Forgive me if I LMFAO while typing this; my neighbors across the street are a gay couple, and the "wife" of this union uses this saddle with the sheepskin covers....they just about had a heart attack when I asked him about his weird looking saddle, thinking that I had prostate cancer or erectile dysfunction, or something even more devilish....anyway, they pointed me to the web site, and here you go.....

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate

    Check it out the prostrate is actual above the bones and is not impacted at all by the saddle....

    I think what you are looking for is a saddle that does not impede the blood flow "down there"

    Check out the Specialized Site for some good info...

    BTW I like the Specialized Avatar saddle.

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    Well I found when road riding for so many miles the Forté T1 Tri Saddle from Performance Bike to be rather nice and easy on the sitting bones during long arduous days. And it cost like $40 which made it even better.

    But everyone's sit bones are different, so what worked for me may not for you.

    But too, is there really a prostate friendly saddle..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott

    BTW I like the Specialized Avatar saddle.
    Yep that's the one I use! I have the 155 mm (widest version), and found that it is really more comfortable for me than my Max flite. Even if the saddle has a gap in the center, that's not much help if a lot of your weight is on the edge of the gap, which was the case with my max flite. The flatness of the Avatar saddle puts more of my weight across a wider area of my butt.

    Check it out the prostrate is actual above the bones and is not impacted at all by the saddle....

    I think what you are looking for is a saddle that does not impede the blood flow "down there"
    Yeah you don't sit on your prostate, but it's affected because blood to the area is decreased.

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    Actually, the term "prostate friendly" is a misnomer; special saddles, which there are quite a few that are medically approved, are designed to alleviate the pressure on the perineum, and to treat for or avoid erectile dysfunction. Unless you plan to ride with the saddle and seat post rammed up you know where, bike saddles have no affect on the prostate.

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    From the Adamo website:

    On an annual basis, bicycle riding involves several hundred million people worldwide. Studies have linked perineal pressure caused by straddling traditional bicycle seats to numbness, urinary tract and yeast infections, prostate inflammation and impotence. For male riders, in addition to the discomfort and numbness associated with a traditional saddle, there is an increased susceptibility to restricted blood flow, which can lead to arterial occlusion and permanent erectile dysfunction. For women, the restricted blood flow and hardening of the genital arteries can lead to an inability to reach orgasm. It has been found that as little as 11% of a person’s body weight can compress the genital artery!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeljaws
    Forgive me if I LMFAO while typing this; my neighbors across the street are a gay couple, and the "wife" of this union uses this saddle with the sheepskin covers....they just about had a heart attack when I asked him about his weird looking saddle, thinking that I had prostate cancer or erectile dysfunction, or something even more devilish....anyway, they pointed me to the web site, and here you go.....

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    That saddle isn't going to work for much more than beach cruising. You need to be able to pinch the nose of the saddle between your thighs to have control in a mtb situation.
    Funny story though

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    Well I am recovering from prostatitis which is no fun at all! My Urologist told me that saddles that have noses are a big when I do a lot of trail riding I use the nose of the seat for control and don't want to lose that. He did suggest that I look at Koobi saddles as they don't interrupt blood flow and according to the Urologist the saddle does effect your prostate, especially when one has prostatitis...I am obviously not a doctor but I tend to take the physicians advice when he gives it...

    So now I am looking at the split nose saddles and was wondering if anybody has had any experience with either the Koobi or Adamo. I will deffinitely check out the Specialized Avatar as I had included them in my research.

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    at first glance i thought this thread was about prostitute friendly saddles.

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    The WTB saddles have a 'pressure relieving cutout' and are the most comfortable I've tested; and they have saddles for different widths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    at first glance i thought this thread was about prostitute friendly saddles.
    I think a full suspension, saddleless bike would do the trick....LOL! OUCH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    at first glance i thought this thread was about prostitute friendly saddles.
    They have those too, but I don't think I should show a picture...

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    Can't have that for sure. That is why I stand alot and mash on the pedals. Drink lots of cranberry juice and your prostate will smile for many a year!

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    I have the Koobi AU Enduro. It works for me because I'm actually on the sitbones, as opposed to the taint. It's pretty darn wide, though.

    I think Koobi has a 30 day return policy.

    http://www.koobi.com/koobiauenduroandendurogel.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSteve in CO
    I have the Koobi AU Enduro. It works for me because I'm actually on the sitbones, as opposed to the taint. It's pretty darn wide, though.

    I think Koobi has a 30 day return policy.

    http://www.koobi.com/koobiauenduroandendurogel.aspx
    Yes, Koobi has a 30 day trial period....I am thinking about trying one out...
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    I got my Father-in-law an Adamo Peak. He has loved it from the first ride on. Before this saddle he was cover a 150 saddle with a heavy gel pad, I could not let this go on. I was told to be patient and mess with the angle before you give up on it. We got it right on the first try though.

    These guys will let you demo one for 25 then put 20 towards your purchase if you decide you like it. http://www.trisports.com/demo-ism-ad...ke-saddle.html If you have to go no nose I would give it a try.

    Just so it is know, I didn't get mine from them but found them while looking up info on it. Seems like a pretty low risk way of trying it. I got a deal on his and figured looking at eBay if he hated it selling it would be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronabrandt
    I got my Father-in-law an Adamo Peak. He has loved it from the first ride on. Before this saddle he was cover a 150 saddle with a heavy gel pad, I could not let this go on. I was told to be patient and mess with the angle before you give up on it. We got it right on the first try though.

    These guys will let you demo one for 25 then put 20 towards your purchase if you decide you like it. http://www.trisports.com/demo-ism-ad...ke-saddle.html If you have to go no nose I would give it a try.

    Just so it is know, I didn't get mine from them but found them while looking up info on it. Seems like a pretty low risk way of trying it. I got a deal on his and figured looking at eBay if he hated it selling it would be a problem.
    Very interesting saddle design for sure. Would be nice to demo one.

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    Remember that saddles are something personal, what works for someone else might not work for you.
    However, most of the -respectable- saddles nowadays have the cutout in the middle to allow bloodflow to your privates, so that long rides or constant riding doesn't mess with the ability to raise your flag. Doesn't have anything to do with your prostate as far as I know.

    Go to your LBS and try testing some out, and get what works for you. Dont buy a saddle before checking how it fits first!

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    i just picked up an Axiom SQ Lab saddle. it is the H-Spec Aggressive Trekk model. either way, it is one of the most comfortable saddles that i have ever parked my boney rear on. the last saddle that i had on my hardtail was an older specialized competition style saddle, it hurt to walk for at least a day after riding that saddle. the new saddle left me feeling rather good after my ride yesterday and i felt even better when i realized that it was only like $35.

    definatly something to look into.

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    I've been using these on my road bike for about 4 years now...


    I spent about about a week adjusting to it and it's the most comfortable saddle I've ever used and will be the only one I use on my road bikes as long as they keep making them. It doesn't work too well off-road though, it seems to be designed for less moving around than is necessary on the trails. I haven't found the comfort equivalent for my XC bike yet but I'm still looking. For any type of biking besides road or XC, I don't spend 5 - 6 hours or more continuously in the saddle so it's never been an issue.

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    This is a very important topic that many cyclist overlook or ignore. I think many "Pro" athletes are used to pain and just ignore it as being part of the sport. For those of us riding recreationally or even racing for fun don't want to work through this kind of pain. Our shop recently hosted a informational "Numb Nuts" night with one of our local Urologists. The jist of the entire discussion came down to the fact that sitting on a bike saddle is not healthy for circulation and can lead to bigger and badder things. Erectile Disfunction is the number one complaint that the Urology field sees from cyclist which is caused by using a improper saddle.

    In the Urology profession all of the studys show that a noseless saddle like the Koobi, Hobson, etc are the best option for those having problems. One study of noseless saddles used 100 and something bike police officers. If I remember correctly those complaining of numbness, pain, etc with a regular saddle dropped 73% when going to the noseless saddle. Many officers were sceptical about a noseless saddle for bike handling purposes. None complained of decreased handling. There was another study that showed the Selle SMP saddles also helped reduce the number of complaints among testers. Just noticed LWP posted his experience with these saddles. As it has been mentioned everyone's anatomy is different and you have to find the best saddle that "fits" you. There is not one perfect solution to fix everyone's problem(s). You have to do some leg work and spend some money to make it happen.

    I am also a Selle SMP Pro saddle rider. I ride this saddle on my mtn bike and will ocassionally put it on a road bike. I'm only 28 but was diagnosed with prostititous and was having other pain symtoms related to saddle/riding position that had to be stopped. The SMP saddles were able to achieve the proper fit for me and alleviate my issues. Without changing to these saddles I wouldn't be riding a bike anymore. It was that bad. Though the saddles are expensive I love to ride and I love to have sex. This was a no brainer purchase and should be for anyone have complications.

    At our shop we actually have a saddle library with nearly two dozen saddles for our customers to rent out at $5 per day. After finding the Selle SMP saddles and putting them in the library I have been able to help many customers reduce or eliminate the issues that we are discussing in this thread. The WTB, Terry and Selle Italia saddles didn't fix the problem for most guys. Selle SMP offers "test" saddles to their dealers for purchase. Most any bike shop should be able to gets these saddles by going through the dirstributor Albabici, which is the importer for a handful of small Italian asseccory companies.

    Hope this is helpful information to those that need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn_man2
    In the Urology profession all of the studys show that a noseless saddle like the Koobi, Hobson, etc are the best option for those having problems.
    Noseless is kind of a misnomer, isn't it? It seems these saddles have split noses, but still have a nose that you can use to pinch between you legs for handling and control. There are square saddles on the market that are what I think about when you say noseless. Like this one:
    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schwinn-No...e-Seat/9207800



    At our shop we actually have a saddle library with nearly two dozen saddles for our customers to rent out at $5 per day. After finding the Selle SMP saddles and putting them in the library I have been able to help many customers reduce or eliminate the issues that we are discussing in this thread. The WTB, Terry and Selle Italia saddles didn't fix the problem for most guys. Selle SMP offers "test" saddles to their dealers for purchase. Most any bike shop should be able to gets these saddles by going through the dirstributor Albabici, which is the importer for a handful of small Italian asseccory companies.

    Hope this is helpful information to those that need it.
    Cool you make it so easy to test ride these saddles.
    My Specialized is comfortable, but who knows how much blood flow you get on a saddle? If you don't have symptoms, and your seat seems comfortable, and your seat has an open design in the center, do think that is good enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve
    Noseless is kind of a misnomer, isn't it? It seems these saddles have split noses, but still have a nose that you can use to pinch between you legs for handling and control. There are square saddles on the market that are what I think about when you say noseless. Like this one:
    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schwinn-No...e-Seat/9207800

    Cool you make it so easy to test ride these saddles.
    My Specialized is comfortable, but who knows how much blood flow you get on a saddle? If you don't have symptoms, and your seat seems comfortable, and your seat has an open design in the center, do think that is good enough?
    Misnomer depending on the saddle. The Hobson saddles are noseless much like the one in your link. I would classify the Adamo as a noseless saddle also. You don't have a full saddle complete with noes. The Selle SMPs are not noseless but a drop nose which can help when you are forward on the saddle. The saddles used in the tests that I referenced were noseless saddles similar to the Hobson.

    Chances are if you aren't experiencing any negative side effects from riding your current saddle you likely don't need to be concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP

    If saddles had a sex, this one would be a hermaphrodite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSteve in CO
    I have the Koobi AU Enduro. It works for me because I'm actually on the sitbones, as opposed to the taint. It's pretty darn wide, though.

    I think Koobi has a 30 day return policy.

    http://www.koobi.com/koobiauenduroandendurogel.aspx
    Don't know if it is specifically prostate friendly, but the Koobi AU Enduro I've have for about 9 years is unbelievably comfy on my road bike, where I spend a lot more time actually in the saddle than on the MTB. Great saddle. However, it is too wide for my tastes for mtb, so it just gets used on the road bike.

    Regarding a post below: I don't understand why one would call it nose-less.
    15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.

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    if it has to be noseless...

    http://www.spiderflex.com/

    these will hold up to the pounding from mountain biking and will completely relieve the pressure on the prostate (for me anyway).

    The cool factor is zero, however

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta
    Don't know if it is specifically prostate friendly, but the Koobi AU Enduro I've have for about 9 years is unbelievably comfy on my road bike, where I spend a lot more time actually in the saddle than on the MTB. Great saddle. However, it is too wide for my tastes for mtb, so it just gets used on the road bike.

    Regarding a post below: I don't understand why one would call it nose-less.
    You are correct that the Koobi is not a noseless saddle. I mis-typed that for the Adamo saddles. Post has been corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemtu
    http://www.spiderflex.com/

    these will hold up to the pounding from mountain biking and will completely relieve the pressure on the prostate (for me anyway).

    The cool factor is zero, however
    Steve,

    Interestingly enough this is the saddle that was used in the police study I referenced in my first reply. If anyone is interested in reading the results of the study you can find it on the spiderflex website. If my numbers are incorrect from my original post please forgive me. I didn't fact check them before posting.
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    I don't see any weights listed on the Adamo web site. That must mean they are heavy (?)

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    CroMo rails and gel. Ebay has a listing for the Peak @ 255mm Long - 135mm Wide - 305g

    They also have a seat similar to the Spiderflex..

    Personally, I'm just about to purchase the Peak. The ebay seller has a 14 day 100% back, and I figure shipping charges would be worth a 2 week test.

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    This surely won't be the case for everyone, but this is my personal experience.

    I think the prostate pain experienced by many riders is due to having a saddle with too much padding. This might sound contradictory, but think about how far your sit bones have to press down through the padding to accommodate your weight. The result is that there's all kinda padding pushing up into your prostate, and other soft tissue areas. When I moved to a more aggressive, lightly padded saddle I was much more comfortable as almost all of my body weight is transferred from my sit bones directly to the saddle, and there is now space between the saddle and my soft tissue, where there was once padding pushing up into me.

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    Whoops wrong thread.
    I thought I was going to read some recommendations about saddles that tickle the prostrate like an anxious $2 hooker, not some saddles that focus on cradling each butt cheek.
    Sorry, I'll close the door behind me.

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    Specialized BG

    You should check out the Specialized Body Geometry saddles. They have several different saddles at different prices but they are all "prostate friendly"

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    I use the Adamo saddle and love it. Adamos place all the weight on the sit bones; there's no third point of contact at all even when you slide forward. There is no change in handling of the bike. Mine weigh 330g for the Peak and I also use road versions.

    Adamos take a bit of adjusting to for some people. They also need a little more setback in my experience. Neither caused me any difficulty. There may be a little sitbone soreness at first and they feel wide. You sit further forward on them than you initially expect.

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    Any of the Gel Flow saddles from Selle Italia relieve most pressure from those sensitive areas. I've found them really comfortable.

    Specialized saddles also have the cutouts, but in my experience their padding is poor quality and breaks down quickly.
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    my wtb lazer v doesn't quite cut it for relief down under. But my terry liberator does. for me the center channel must run the length of the saddle- or there must be a hole in the center of the saddle like the terry's.

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    It seems like another part of the equation here would be the shorts you wear. Anybody think this is true? Anybody have any great successes with a particular pair of shorts? I have a pair of fox rangers that aren't terribly supportive and don't have the best pad. My girlfriend has a pair of sugoi baggy shorts that have a removable liner that seems to offer more support (like she needs it!) and also has a much denser pad, which seems like it would do a lot to alleviate pressure.

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    I always avoided thick big pads as being to uncomfortable and bulky, but this summer I used a pair of shorts with a big pad like that, and found that it really helps, and isn't that noticable while riding. Fortunately, it is removable for after the ride (as all bike short liners should be IMO).

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    I use these shorts, and they are the best prostate friendly shorts I've ridden. The pad is gel, and it really helps.

    http://www.serfas.com/product_details.asp?ID=636

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    The bontager ssr saddle is my favorite. My dong falls asleep riding my session but not on my 820, so I bought the ssr the same one that came with the 820 and put it on my session, and now it's all good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted1
    The bontager ssr saddle is my favorite. My dong falls asleep riding my session but not on my 820, so I bought the ssr the same one that came with the 820 and put it on my session, and now it's all good!
    A sleeping dong. That must suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrick
    I use these shorts, and they are the best prostate friendly shorts I've ridden. The pad is gel, and it really helps.

    http://www.serfas.com/product_details.asp?ID=636
    I like the fake reviews on that site, written by Chinese slaves.

    Me likey shorts, best eva!


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    has anyone ever caught a ball in the space there?? id be terrified of hitting a bump and having one of my boys get an awkward hit from that madness...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP
    I've been using these on my road bike for about 4 years now...


    I spent about about a week adjusting to it and it's the most comfortable saddle I've ever used and will be the only one I use on my road bikes as long as they keep making them. It doesn't work too well off-road though, it seems to be designed for less moving around than is necessary on the trails. I haven't found the comfort equivalent for my XC bike yet but I'm still looking. For any type of biking besides road or XC, I don't spend 5 - 6 hours or more continuously in the saddle so it's never been an issue.
    +1 on the Selle SMP. I use the Avant which is a bit wider. They also have an even wider (Plus) model....best seat Ive had, not cheap but worth it IMO..No Issues for me on my MTB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gergroy
    It seems like another part of the equation here would be the shorts you wear. Anybody think this is true? Anybody have any great successes with a particular pair of shorts? I have a pair of fox rangers that aren't terribly supportive and don't have the best pad. My girlfriend has a pair of sugoi baggy shorts that have a removable liner that seems to offer more support (like she needs it!) and also has a much denser pad, which seems like it would do a lot to alleviate pressure.
    Yep, different shorts with different pad designs yield different results to my butt. I prefer to use road bike shorts with baggy shorts over them. Like a removable liner that can also do roadie duty. I started with a cheap set of shorts with a thin flat pad. Then, the shop convinced me to get the Sugoi RS short. Not cheap, but the pad is noticeably better when riding. Click the link for the chamois and see the different.
    http://www.sugoi.com/can/eng/Product...8377U-RS-Short

    As others have mentioned butts are different, hence the need for different kinds of seats. My Selle Italia Flite Gel road seat is softer and cushier than my San Marco, but after 10 miles I feel the pressure much more on the perineum area with the Flite. So, in this case harder is more comfortable. More that likely it is the shape of the saddle and where your sit bones hit the saddle.

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