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    POC Trabec Race Helmet...WTF with the price!?

    I was waiting for the release of this helmet since the day I saw it in Interbike pics!
    It looks super cool! Me and a friend were gonna buy some...I like the white with orange..

    UNTIL....I saw the price! WTF! What are these helmets made of? It's 20 bucks cheaper than their full face helmet....Is it carbon fiber?

    I think I'll stay with my trusty Giro Xen helmet

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    Anything named after Alex Trabec is worth it's weight in gold!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    Anything named after Alex Trabec is worth it's weight in gold!
    Man...the only guy I know of...is Alex Trebek...and he's the Jeopardy guy!
    I want the helmet for protection not to have Gaming Show memorabilia!

    Anyway...It's expensive...
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    the swedes do whatever they want man.

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    I was waiting on this one too. Guess I'll be buying the Urge, then.

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    Suck it, Trebec!

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    I'm straight as hell.

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    I'll take the rapist for $500 Alex.

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    haha!

    What's the price of the Urge? They seem to be very popular nowadays!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    What's the price of the Urge? They seem to be very popular nowadays!
    $99 pretty much everywhere: Huck n Roll, PricePoint, JensonUSA, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive
    $99 pretty much everywhere: Huck n Roll, PricePoint, JensonUSA, etc.
    even the new Giro Hex which is sweet is $89 I think in CRC.....
    I thought the swedish were all about value...i.e IKEA?
    haha kidding...
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    http://www.xsportsprotective.com/ has 10$ off on the Urge
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    POC is being silly here

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    What a ripoff. I've been waiting for this helmet to come out since I saw that interbike picture as well but this is unacceptable.
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    hell, the new xar is 170 at crc. way more than a xen. new models are always steep. poc has a great rep and it is your brain its meant to protect. it's expensive but it will probably still sell.

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    I'm going to buy either the urge endur o matic or the new POC trabec. I think both will provide more protection than my xen, and I like the growth in more full coverage 'open faced' MTB helmets. Yes, the trabec looks over priced, but an incremental $100-$150 for head protection is trivial IMHO. And there may be features with the POC that merit the higher price. Not much seems to be known about this helmet thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMrider
    Not much seems to be known about this helmet thus far.
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    Except for construction (core and shell), color, price, number of vents, strap style, etc. While there aren't any rider reviews yet, I'd say we know a decent amount already.

    POC uses EPP in their multi-impact helments. The Trebec uses EPS, so it looks like a one-shot helmet.

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    piece of c...

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    been using a POC receptor flow for a couple of years now and the construction is first rate. this new lid is expensive but hey they're not looking to compete with price points as far as I can tell. I'm sure it will be a solid product like all their others. no different market than TLD, XTR, BOS, right? The Urge enduro is a cool alternative me thinks. where there's a wallet there's a will

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    Here is a very short rider review for the Trabec: http://www.nsmb.com/4163-gear-shots-67

    MSRP is $175 US, so when it finally comes out in the US it will be much cheaper than it is currently listed for at CRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDCA
    MSRP is $175 US, so when it finally comes out in the US it will be much cheaper than it is currently listed for at CRC.
    That sounds more like what I was expecting.

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    That is a nice helmet and that price sure is obnoxious!

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    you all want it so badly, so it is priced accordingly

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    if it is $175 mrsp in the usa that is not too bad at all. pretty inline with the rest of poc's stuff. if it was a pos we could call shenanagans but poc is money.

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    I did want it badly, but they've lost out on my business. I went with the urge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine
    you all want it so badly, so it is priced accordingly
    I do want it BADLY!
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    I'm gonna hold off until I can get it on Chainlove for 30 bucks next year...
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    The price for the basic Trabec is not so bad compared to the competition, but the difference is that I can pick up that Xen for -50-70% discount at the end of the season, poc stuff rarely goes on big discount. I would not pay 150€ for any helmet like that (I think).

    It's a pity, I was holding out on upgrading my helmet to see how much they will be, but that's just too much.

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    I consider helmets a disposable item. I buy several year old models for 30-60 dollars and replace them every few years. I'm using a Hex I bought for 30 dollars or so on closeout right now. I guess I'm a tightwad.
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    Its going to be on your head every time you ride. If you plan to have it for the next several years and your not going to have to eat ramen noodles for the next month, DO IT. Its a good investment, don't be a tightwad when it comes to your head!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryandoobs
    Its going to be on your head every time you ride. If you plan to have it for the next several years and your not going to have to eat ramen noodles for the next month, DO IT. Its a good investment, don't be a tightwad when it comes to your head!
    amen. I'd throw down the paper for an Arai if they got into the mtb helmet scene! i can't justify a 7 hundred dollar shock to push my riding and not treat my head to the same level of protection if i can.

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    This design is unique, so for now it commands a premium price. Sure, I could grab another Xen for $70 or so, but I'm looking for more protection without going to a full-face design. The urge and POC are the only choices I've been able to find thus far.

    I've always been surprised that moto-style open faced helmet designs like these we not more common in the MTB world. The Xen is a solid helmet, but it sure does not protect as much of my noggin as I'd like. If I have to give up some ventilation and weight saving, that is an OK trade off.
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    Hey folks, it's a multiple impact helmet! Isn't that worth the extra price? How often do you crash and you're left wondering... should I replace this?
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    Firstly POC's mandate is to do everything they can to save lives and to reduce consequences of accidents. They work with material specialists, industrial designers, neurologists, specialists in spinal cord injuries and experts in health care to provide the safest product they can.

    The POC Trabec is $149 cdn and the Trabec Race is $189, clearly the UK price is different for some reason but this is what north america will be paying.

    The POC Trabec is a lesson in safety, it uses an optimized softer foam that is able to slow down head speed upon major impacts. This same optimized foam is also able to withstand multiple impacts.

    Most importantly is the POC Trabec helmet utilizes a branch of science called biomimetics, a process where medical doctors, engineers and industrial designers look at biological structures to aid them in product development. For the Trabec helmet this form of biomimetics is taken from the trabecular bone structure, POC looked at how the trabecular structure in bones is like a microscopic beam or rod that goes from one side of the bone across the "hollow" center. These tiny strands or rods are what give our bones their amazing strength to weight ratio.

    POC decided to use kevlar to mimic this structure in their helmets and have woven kevlar throughout the Trabec helmet to keep it strong upon major blunt or oblique impacts, yet still light and thereby less mass.

    Currently the Trabec is only about 20gr heavier than a Giro Ionios (one of the lightest road helmets in the world and Ionios is about 50% more expensive)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    I'm gonna hold off until I can get it on Chainlove for 30 bucks next year...
    hahaha chainLove FTW!

    Now that someone posted that these are 145 US price...I might be interested in one...

    anyone know who has them in stock? Are they distributed by QBP or BTI??
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirbikealot
    Firstly POC's mandate is to do everything they can to save lives and to reduce consequences of accidents. They work with material specialists, industrial designers, neurologists, specialists in spinal cord injuries and experts in health care to provide the safest product they can.

    The POC Trabec is $149 cdn and the Trabec Race is $189, clearly the UK price is different for some reason but this is what north america will be paying.

    The POC Trabec is a lesson in safety, it uses an optimized softer foam that is able to slow down head speed upon major impacts. This same optimized foam is also able to withstand multiple impacts.

    Most importantly is the POC Trabec helmet utilizes a branch of science called biomimetics, a process where medical doctors, engineers and industrial designers look at biological structures to aid them in product development. For the Trabec helmet this form of biomimetics is taken from the trabecular bone structure, POC looked at how the trabecular structure in bones is like a microscopic beam or rod that goes from one side of the bone across the "hollow" center. These tiny strands or rods are what give our bones their amazing strength to weight ratio.

    POC decided to use kevlar to mimic this structure in their helmets and have woven kevlar throughout the Trabec helmet to keep it strong upon major blunt or oblique impacts, yet still light and thereby less mass.

    Currently the Trabec is only about 20gr heavier than a Giro Ionios (one of the lightest road helmets in the world and Ionios is about 50% more expensive)

    This is pretty interesting stuff man, Thanks!
    Esthetically, the Trabec gets the prize man! I love it!
    good to hear it's functionally superior to the popular offerings....
    But...CRC price is NUTS! But I guess it's pretty soon...Price will drop eventually...

    One question...what are the main differences in the RACE version and the normal cheaper version?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirbikealot

    The POC Trabec is $149 cdn and the Trabec Race is $189, clearly the UK price is different for some reason but this is what north america will be paying.
    I hope it's just a scam for pre-orders, if I have to pay that much more living 30 minutes flight away from the Poc office I'll not buy it just out of principle.

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    If this year is anything like last year poc sold out of inventory really quickly so if you want one, get one sharpish. Don't wait for clear outs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    This is pretty interesting stuff man, Thanks!
    Esthetically, the Trabec gets the prize man! I love it!
    good to hear it's functionally superior to the popular offerings....
    But...CRC price is NUTS! But I guess it's pretty soon...Price will drop eventually...

    One question...what are the main differences in the RACE version and the normal cheaper version?
    Race has more kevlar in the trabecular grid, essentially for those who wanted even more protection riding super d or megaavalanche type stuff
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    anyone know who has them in stock? Are they distributed by QBP or BTI??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhbomber
    anyone know who has them in stock? Are they distributed by QBP or BTI??
    No they are distributed direct by POC USA or by KMI in Canada

    Helmets have not hit shores yet
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    POC is the best when it comes to protection in skiing, wouldn't be surprised if they become the branch leading in MTB protection. Such an innovative company.

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    troy lee could do his thing with a poc helmet and sell it for $800

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    Put cool stickers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropadrop
    I hope it's just a scam for pre-orders, if I have to pay that much more living 30 minutes flight away from the Poc office I'll not buy it just out of principle.
    The price difference is all tax.

    Unfortunately, living in the UK adds 20% cost to everything, the price difference between a POC helmet in the US and here is roughly 20%, bloody George Osbourne.

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    POC Trabec Race Helmet WTF with the price

    The funny thing is that the sounding in Dutch is not to be taken literally acoustics. If it is, we would use klinken to sound, literally. The luiden has to do with sounds, but now only of church bells, and in this particular expression, not elsewhere, so I think..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade
    The price difference is all tax.

    Unfortunately, living in the UK adds 20% cost to everything, the price difference between a POC helmet in the US and here is roughly 20%, bloody George Osbourne.
    I'd rather pay 20% on the helmet than be faced ith the hospital bill for every crash that needs attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfox90
    I'm straight as hell.
    You remind me so much of a good friend of mine. Hahaha.

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    Futtbucker!!!

    '... I don't get it...'.

    '... oh, I think you do Trabec!..'.

    For the record I want one too. The helmet, that is. AllSportProtection says no stock 'til late Spring/early Summer. Try not to land on your head in the meantime I guess.

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    I got one yesterday. Don't know how much it cost yet, but it feels comfy compared to my old Giro Hex, looks well made etc.

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    " Ok, time for the next question. What sound does a doggy make?"

    " 'Ruff' ... Just the way your mother likes it Trabec!"

    I own a Giro Hex, and I'm more then comfy with it on trails. I will not use it for some heavier freeride applications, but that's fairly obvious. Helmets are purpose specific typically, and really, protect your own head the way you want. Personally, I'd rather have a trail helmet that doesn't break the bank, and a full face helmet for the heavier applications, rather then spending it all on just one helmet. While it may offer supreme protection against impact on the top of the skull, it does not protect the 'money maker', or the 'grill'. Potatoes, Po-tah-toes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagair002
    Personally, I'd rather have a trail helmet that doesn't break the bank, and a full face helmet for the heavier applications, rather then spending it all on just one helmet. While it may offer supreme protection against impact on the top of the skull, it does not protect the 'money maker', or the 'grill'. Potatoes, Po-tah-toes.
    Yeah, for me the price of the Trabec does not exclude the possibility to also have a full face helmet (which I do have). My wife uses binary logic, I live by shades of gray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treaty_oak@yahoo.com
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    Is anyone using the Urge or plan on using the POC for more of a cross country application? Both helmets are not excessively heavy and they seem to have a lot of ventilation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goforbroke
    Is anyone using the Urge or plan on using the POC for more of a cross country application? Both helmets are not excessively heavy and they seem to have a lot of ventilation.
    Just started using an Urge. Planning on using it for everything. Very light and the visor is excellent. Ventilation is good, but more of you head is in contact with pads and so unventilated. As a result you seem to sweat more but don't get hot.

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    I tried an Urge on last winter, but it was hard to really get a good feeling as I had a cap on and it was set up for somebody else. Probably pretty good value for money, I would recommend trying both on if you have a chance, they feel pretty different.

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    Bought a Trabec at XSportsprotective last night for $145.00 to my door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_uk
    Just started using an Urge. Planning on using it for everything. Very light and the visor is excellent. Ventilation is good, but more of you head is in contact with pads and so unventilated. As a result you seem to sweat more but don't get hot.
    Umm good info I think I'm going to pull the trigger and get the Urge. The ventilation situation is the only thing that concerns me then again.... I need need to retire my power rangers helmet anyway.
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    I will be using my Poc for everything. It's really well ventilated, can't see why anyone would need something else...

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    I am with you there, Drop. I use POC knee and elbow pads. Excellent product and I have tried them all.
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    Received my Trabec today. The inside skeleton has nice adjustments and it feels good on my head. The airflow is adequate and the build quality is solid. The Visor is not adjustable but it can be removed. Not too keen on the POC marketing ploy there.
    Compared to my Giro Xen, the POC has a better build quality and is more comfortable....never thought I'd see the day.
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    I just received my POC trabec today and I am presently compariong it to the Urge enduromatic and a Kali avita composite. I have a few rides on the Urge and the Kali and I admit I realy like the Urge but I can't wait to try the POC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C & D's Dad
    I just received my POC trabec today and I am presently compariong it to the Urge enduromatic and a Kali avita composite. I have a few rides on the Urge and the Kali and I admit I realy like the Urge but I can't wait to try the POC.
    I was looking at the Urge, Cyphon, and Kalias as well, settled on a black POC Trebec $134.84 to my door. Found a good coupon code.

    We shall see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by C & D's Dad
    I just received my POC trabec today and I am presently compariong it to the Urge enduromatic and a Kali avita composite. I have a few rides on the Urge and the Kali and I admit I realy like the Urge but I can't wait to try the POC.
    Any updates or pics? Trying to decide betweent the POC and Urge myself...Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaceplant
    I was looking at the Urge, Cyphon, and Kalias as well, settled on a black POC Trebec $134.84 to my door. Found a good coupon code.

    We shall see...
    Still havent received the Trabec.
    Vendors website incorrect. NOT in stock. WONT ship in 24hrs.
    Had to change my order to Kali carbon. I asked if it is the one WITHOUT the stars, they said it was.
    SUPPOSED to ship today. 5/11
    They are giving me a great deal though.
    So far the deal is no deal because I still dont have a helmet or one on its way,
    Scheise

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    Quote Originally Posted by BairdM3
    Any updates or pics? Trying to decide betweent the POC and Urge myself...Thanks!
    Same here, im leaning toward the POC because it looks like my melon will stay cooler but we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim311
    . I'm using a Hex I bought for 30 dollars or so on closeout right now. I guess I'm a tightwad.

    Lol, I'd say your the only reasonable person in this thread

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    Currently debating this myself. Any updates from those that were in the same boat?

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    I wear a POC Receptor for skiing, as do all of my family, POC is the best helmet maker bar none. They are expensive, but if you want to put a cheap helmet on your head, then you may want to consider how much you spend on tires...

    I wear a Fox Flux now, it's my third one, so I like that fit. I'm due for a new helmet and so I'll be getting a POC.

    Consider this: A POC will last twice as long or longer than a Giro or Fox, so in the end you don't spend more unless your lose the helmet.

    The weight is comensurate with the materials, quality, and level of protection. The liter the helmet, the less the protection, same goes for vents, so if you plan on using your helmet for crashing, a good helmet is worth the price you pay.

    And honestly, if I could stand the heat and weight, the POC full face looks sweet!

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    I went from a Fox Flux to a Trabec and for my melon it's way more comfortable and doesn't move around. It's like wearing a glove on your head.

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    Oddly - I found the POC quite uncomfortable - probably all boils down to head shape... I have a largish, roundish melon. Ended up going with a Specialized S3 MT... super light and super comfy, with amazing venting... another thing I wasn't found of from the POC... lack of venting... my head tends to overheat


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