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    ɔıʇoƆ / Cotic BFe i.e. Real Steel





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    I've always had a weakness for steel frames. My first XC racing bike frame was made of this wonderful material in the Ritchey’s forge.
    Few years later I ruled the streets on a small but heavy [13" - 3.2kg] steel frame Planet X PitBull.
    However, when my back started to hurt I sought solace in full suspension.
    Now again, I decided to return to the roots and build a bike that will be pleasing to the eye and a torture for my spine.
    Although the bike will serve primarily for commuting to work, I will sometimes make trips in the field,
    where the terrain is too easy for Knolly and too hard for Marin.




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    For the photo shoot I took the bike on the historical bridge in my home town: Tczew, Poland. The bridge was constructed between 1851 and 1857. At the time, with its 837 meters length, it was one of the longest bridges in the world. According to some sources this was the location of the start of World War II when German bombers attacked Polish sapper installations to prevent the bridge from been blown up at 04:34. Eventually the bridges [road and railway] were destroyed by Polish sappers in order to prevent the German Army from accessing the city from the other side of the Vistula River.







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    Frame:- Cotic BFe [size M - 17.5"]
    Fork:- BOS Deville 160mm >>update: Manitou Nixon Super SPV 145mm >>update: DT Swiss EXM 130mm QR 15mm
    Head Set:- Cane Creek S8 >>update: Cane Creek 110 EC34
    Stem:- NS Bikes Quark 40mm
    Bar:- NS Bikes X-up 25.4mm >>update: Octane One Chemical Pro 730mm x 81mm x 25,4mm‏
    Bar Ends:- ODI >>update: Ergon
    Grips:- ODI Rogue >>update: Ergon GA1 Evo blue
    Brakes:- Avid Custom Brakes
    Rotors:- Avid HS1 180mm / 160mm + MOWA Bolts
    Shifters:- Shimano XT SL-M770 Rapidfire
    Seat Post:- BBB Skyscraper 31.6mm / 400mm >>update: Kind Shock i900 125mm
    Seat Post QR:- KCNC 34.9 >>update: Syntace SuperLock2
    Saddle:- Pro Thomas Vanderham FR >>update: WTB Laser V Team Black
    Crankset:- FSA Gravity + Chromag 36T >>update: Middleburn 34/22
    Bottom Bracket:- Race Face Evolve FR
    Chainguide:- Mozartt WoG mini [optional]
    Rear Derailleur:- Shimano Deore XT RD-M772 GS Shadow
    Cassette:- SRAM PG-990 11-34
    Chain:- KMC X9 SL Ti Gold
    Pedals:- Shimano DX PD-M647 >>update: Shimano XT M785 Trail Wide Platform
    Wheels:- Mavic DeeTraks >>update: Industry Nine Enduro, custom alu spokes 50/50 red/silver
    Front Tire:- Schwalbe Table Top 2.25 | Schwalbe Fat Albert 2.25
    Rear Tire:- Schwalbe Table Top 2.25 | Schwalbe Fat Albert 2.25
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    Wow!! Breathtaking. Nice attention to detail. It's a fine commuter for sure!!!!!!
    A lack of time and spare parts for my commuter finds me riding to work on my Dialled Alpine and i am loving it. It's not as clean as yours though. Good work.

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    Yes. VERY nice. Congrats.

    I love my Enduro...but I still miss my TransAM. Something about those hardtails!

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    Very nice! Great style. I'm a recent FS ---> HT convert and loving every minute of it. (Blue Pig)

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    I've just got back from the first longer bike trip this year. I must admit that Cotic felt really great on the track. I forgot how comfortable steel frames are compared to mega-stiff and rigid aluminum ones. Cotic feels like there's about 2 inched of travel in the back, funny experience. Anyways, on the fire roads and single tracks Cotic rides way better that my Knolly, it's faster and more fun. Even on some downhill sections Cotic was up to task. Plus, it's easily convertible to street-bike. I just lower the seat and I can do some tricks. Truly universal bike, love it!
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    wow... that is a nice looking bike I ride a beat up giant iguana for commuting. people are always like you race XC and ride that... but I love my iguana it is an awesome bike. but that has to be one of the prettiest bikes I have seen.

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    Great bike & photos!

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    Nice bike. I got a Soul myself.

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    long cage for 1x9?
    RIP Adam Yauch

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    bikeBoard #4/2012

    I'm surprised. I've just bought April issue of bikeBoard - polish bike magazine and here's what I found.
    My Cotic BFe was voted the bike of 1st quarter of 2012 from all the bicycles submitted at the bikeBoard's website.

    I know it's in Polish but here's the cover of the magazine and the page with my bike on it.



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    I'm wanting to buy a BFe as well and am wondering what size axle does the rear dropouts take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diqkiq View Post
    I'm wanting to buy a BFe as well and am wondering what size axle does the rear dropouts take?
    135x10mm (normal quick release size)

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    Thanks

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    Beautiful build!

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    Beautiful bike.

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    Smile Few photos from -14 ºC [7 ºF] bike-ride-and-fire.










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    Cotic's wraparound logo is the only thing I don't like but, I guess, it is quite recognizable.

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    Nice ride! What derailleur jockey wheels are those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Nice ride! What derailleur jockey wheels are those?
    KCNC. I have them in all my derailleurs [including road bike], some of them for many years with no problems.
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    Absolutely gorgeous bike. Love the attention to detail. BOS on a commuter, I like you're style

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    some more winter ride photos...

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    Great Looking Bike..

    Saw ur bike in a PB thread, love what you have going on. Also enjoyed the fire pics!
    "foot to pedal, wheel to dirt, there is no substitute for the act of riding "

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkad View Post
    Saw ur bike in a PB thread, love what you have going on. Also enjoyed the fire pics!
    Thx man! This Cotic rides awesome! I can't get enough of it. My full suspension bike is getting jealous since I ride more and more on hardtail.
    Anyways, the bike will get few updates for new a season. Will post some pictures when finished.
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    Wow that's a nice bike!!!!

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    Badass Bfe, I'm still putting mine together. I can't wait to ride this burly mobile!
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    The pics in this thread are awesome.

    I dealt with Cotic recently in email, great communication that left a very good impression of the company. A purchase wasn't in the cards at this time, but I'll keep looking a their stuff in the future.

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    update

    - fork: DT Swiss EMX 130mm [1795g]
    - front wheel: DT Swiss M1800 [900g]
    - crankset: Middleburn
    - bottom bracket: SKF BXC-600 ISIS


    The bike rides way better with 130mm fork. It's much more nimble and swift.















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    I like the new setup. I stole your ideal on matching tape/frame color for my chainstays. Thats an interesting choice of fork, I haven't seen it on too many setups.
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    Idea! Shipyard visit - Gdansk, Poland





























































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    the BOS you had wasn't good enuf? I feel BOS makes one of the best suspension you can throw your $$ with. I was thinking of a BOS let me know your comments, I like to go Enduro/AM more technical decents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCR32GTSTYPEM View Post
    the BOS you had wasn't good enuf? I feel BOS makes one of the best suspension you can throw your $$ with. I was thinking of a BOS let me know your comments, I like to go Enduro/AM more technical decents.

    BOS Deville was the best fork I have ever owned! Even my current Lyrik with Avalanche cartridge isn't as smooth as BOS. Sure, Avalanche is great but still it's closed in Rock Shox fork which isn't that great and BOS is a whole package. However, when after 2 years of riding the time finally came to service it I found myself in deep $hit as my only option was to send the fork to France and the prices for full service are crazy [around €150 including shipping]. Therefore I decided to do the service on my own. When I opened the fork I was taken aback. Even after 2 years the seals didn't need replacement so I left the old ones. Also, the oil was clean like somebody poured it 2 weeks earlier, not 2 years. BOS makes the best seals out there! But even if I wanted to change the seals at that time they were unavailable since BOS didn't sell them alone forcing everyone to send the forks to one of their service centers. I know some guys used the new Fox SKF seals as alternative but I wouldn't go there. Now, you're able to purchase the original BOS seals in these stores:
    1) www.madelkcycles.com
    2) www.surf-sales.com

    Also if you're interested of how BOS looks inside go to my pinkbike photo album.



    Let me tell you, it's a piece of art! Everything is beautifully machined and you won't find any cheap plastic parts as in all other mainstream brands. Frankly, I regret I sold my BOS but I wanted to try something new, i.e. Avalanche. I know one thing, my next enduro fork will be BOS for sure!

    Nevertheless, as good as the BOS Deville was, its way too much travel for BFe. 160mm of travel makes the geometry very awkward and the bike wasn't as nimble as I would like. This is why I went with 130mm travel fork and DT Swiss EXM was on sale [€250] so I just decided to give it a shot. I found this fork well suited for BFe and I couldn't be more happy. OK, maybe I could, with 130mm BOS
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeBert View Post
    BOS Deville was the best fork I have ever owned! Even my current Lyrik with Avalanche cartridge isn't as smooth as BOS. Sure, Avalanche is great but still it's closed in Rock Shox fork which isn't that great and BOS is a whole package. However, when after 2 years of riding the time finally came to service it I found myself in deep $hit as my only option was to send the fork to France and the prices for full service are crazy [around €150 including shipping]. Therefore I decided to do the service on my own. When I opened the fork I was taken aback. Even after 2 years the seals didn't need replacement so I left the old ones. Also, the oil was clean like somebody poured it 2 weeks earlier, not 2 years. BOS makes the best seals out there! But even if I wanted to change the seals at that time they were unavailable since BOS didn't sell them alone forcing everyone to send the forks to one of their service centers. I know some guys used the new Fox SKF seals as alternative but I wouldn't go there. Now, you're able to purchase the original BOS seals in these stores:
    1) www.madelkcycles.com
    2) www.surf-sales.com

    Also if you're interested of how BOS looks inside go to my pinkbike photo album.



    Let me tell you, it's a piece of art! Everything is beautifully machined and you won't find any cheap plastic parts as in all other mainstream brands. Frankly, I regret I sold my BOS but I wanted to try something new, i.e. Avalanche. I know one thing, my next enduro fork will be BOS for sure!

    Nevertheless, as good as the BOS Deville was, its way too much travel for BFe. 160mm of travel makes the geometry very awkward and the bike wasn't as nimble as I would like. This is why I went with 130mm travel fork and DT Swiss EXM was on sale [€250] so I just decided to give it a shot. I found this fork well suited for BFe and I couldn't be more happy. OK, maybe I could, with 130mm BOS

    WOW thats amazing I am in Asia but I got official support here. yea I was puzzled why you sold a AM/enduro fork that its the best you can spend your $$ with hahas, hmm there are a lot of folks with 160mm forks on their BFe its it really that awkward? The Deville can be tuned to 140mm though. The 2013 lineup has an AM BOS fork coming up . Cause I was thinking of getting the new BFe with BOS 160mm. I am going for a AM/Enduro Hardtail setup, I know many folks are trying to convince me to change to full sus though with the same $ I can easily get 1, but riding a hardtail its like a bike with soul to me, with feedback and such, in a way you have to love the bike or you will regret mistreating it on the trails hahas. Thanks for the awesome replys and pics, you a pro photographer mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dansMTB View Post
    The pics in this thread are awesome.

    I dealt with Cotic recently in email, great communication that left a very good impression of the company. A purchase wasn't in the cards at this time, but I'll keep looking a their stuff in the future.
    Yes they have much better customer support than Chromag, I wanted a Chromag, but I send them 3 emails with zero replys, I was disappointed, some folks did say Chromag has a less slack seatube angle than a BFe, but with this kind of service I am going with a Cotic.

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    Nice to see Cotic getting some love on here... Love my Soul

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    @BikeBert

    I am very interested in your experience with the BOS Deville and the Lyrik/Avalanche combination. I am considering one of these as my next fork, as well as a Marzocchi CR/Avalanche combo.

    I understand the BOS being a high quality and nicely machined whole package. You say the BOS Deville is smoother.

    1. Can you elaborate? What type of terrain does the stock BOS tune feel smoother on? Are there limitations? What is your weight and riding style?
    2. How does it compare to the Avy in midstroke support? Also, brake dive?
    3. Since you disassembled the BOS, are you able to tune the shim stacks?
    4. Is it at least as stiff as the Lyrik?

    A picture of the internals of the damper cartridge would have been great. Thanks a lot for the info and the pics you already provided. I like what BOS has to offer. I really like the features and weight of the Deville. It would be even better if the damping was tuneable, if necessary.

    Thanks again.

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    Idea!

    I decided to taste the new trend of those narrow-wide chainrings that allegedly don't drop the chain. For this task I chose Race Face Single Narrow Wide Chainring.

    Let's hope it works as well as it looks








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    ooo, other companies are getting into the business, I thought wolftooth were the only guys doing them

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    Idea! Narrow Wide Chain Ring

    Narrow-Wide chainring is based on a design patented back in the 1979 [Patent US4174642 A] and originally intended for agriculture use. While it hasn’t seen much use on mountain bikes until now, it’s the reason why Race face and other companies can design a chainring that looks very similar to the SRAM XX1 component. However, there are some differences between SRAM's XX1 chainring and other similar rings. See below for details.








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    Wolftooth seems good too and its made in the USA


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    Smile -15°C Ride

    Few pictures from today's frosty ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjchad View Post
    Is there any US dealer offering Cotic bikes? The frame's about 540.00 dollars and wondering what the import fees would be.
    I bought my frame new on eBay for $232 so keep your eyes open.
    Nevertheless, I'd shoot Cotic an email and ask for individual pricing as they send the frames directly to US.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Vacations on one wheel



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    That is awesome! It appears you are using your BFe correctly!

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