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    Not Your Mama's LBS Bronson Carbon

    Hi MTBR,

    Location Bay Area, CA.
    Philosophy Whoever has the most fun is the best rider
    Dilemma Friends kicking my butt with light, big wheel bikes. Not as fun as riding in a pack... : )
    ME 5'10.5", 155lbs. I have been through some bikes in my day but hardly saw dirt meet tire from 2000 to 2012 when I began riding trail again. I sold a 2003 Kona Stinky and picked up slightly used 2012 Nomad Aluminum. I found the Nomad helped me get over the hump from Dual Crown with its robus Lyric fork, and it did most of what I wanted other than keeping up on the bigger climbs and fast XC trails. My friends were riding lighter, more dedicated XC bikes. Then my primary riding partner built up an Intense Carbine in August 23 2012/last year, with 650b wheels; here is the link posted by El Sobrante Cylery: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

    He kept on about the 650b and the holistic approach, riding a single bike in any situation, which got me thinking it might be worth a look given our similar height and riding styles. About 5-6 months ago my local bike shop received one of the first Bronsons in the bay area. I test rode it and decided I would like to have. Yet, I wasn't ready to fork over the dough; so I went about it the slow way figuring I will find a frame and build it up. While waiting for the Bronson I spent time trying a few other bikes including a 2012 Intense Carbine, then a 2013 TallboyC, and a 2012 Blur TRc (which I truly loved of the bunch). I sure couldn't tell the TRc had 23mm less travel than the Carbine; in my experience at least. I finally snagged a BronsonC frame a few weeks ago on August 24, 2013... exactly 1yr to the day after my friend finished his Carbine build, and I went to work.

    The Bike I knew I didn't want the every day vanilla Bronson, but there were some standard items I found I couldn't imagine going without having ridden them on the prior rigs. At a minimum it had to have XT/XTR brakes and shifters, I was ready to try some lighter tires but have some heavier duty ones ready to save the day if I don't like them, and I wanted to build something I really could imagine doing it all. Hence the name, AllMoutaineer. I was pretty torn on wheels between the Crest and Arch, or going with another Chris King set, but decided the Crest were worth a try as I haven't really damaged any rims too badly. Do note, the stem does flip half way through the build

    There are a few parts I had lying around and/or repurposed to speed up the build process that are being upgraded/swapped from this BOM, specifically the Bars and possibly going for another Reverb Dropper. As you will see, I chose a lot of parts that aren't the common flavor and it was based on my personal experiences... I will say the one curve ball is the RockShox RCT3 Revelation Dual Air, I have mostly ridden Fox the past few years other than the Lyric which was on the Nomad. They haven't been bad but on the same note I haven't been all that impressed and am slightly under the impression that Kashima might be the greatest marketing scheme of all time. Looks great but are there quantifiable advantages? I haven't noticed, and that is reflected here in this build. Having read the reviews I was going to grab a Pike but found this Rev at the right price; I checked and found similar rave reviews and figured it was worth a try. Maybe not the choice for a 200lb downhiller but for my riding style I have a feeling the Rev might be a winner.

    Impressions from the first urban/tuning ride around town tonight: Very crisp, light, rigid, and fast. Can't wait to take it to the dirt. More to come.

    Build as it sits tonight, approx 25.6 - 25.8bs with pedals according to weighing in with/without the bike in hand:


    • 2013 Bronson Carbon Frame with Fox Evolution CTD Rear Shock
    • 2013 RockShox Revelation RCT3 Dual Air 150/120mm 27.5" Fork
    • XT Build Kit with 180mm F / 160mm R IceTech Rotors
    • Stan's Crest/Stan's 3.30 27.5" (650b) Wheelset
    • Nobby Nic 2.25 Evo TL Front / Rocket Ron 2.25 Evo TL Rear (might put the NN 2.25 in the back and stick a NN 2.35 up front)
    • Exotic 750mm Carbon 20mm riser bar (was Deity Dirty30 760mm Bar)
    • FSA OS190 80mm Stem (considering Thomson Elite X4 70/80mm stem)
    • Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    • WTB Silverado Thinline Saddle
    • Cane Creek 110 Headset
    • SRAM PC 1091R Hollow Pin 10spd chain (was from XT Build Kit)
    • Crank Brothers Candy 3 Pedals


    *EDIT 9/13: Swapped to Exotic Carbon Bars and SRAM Chain, new weight approx 25.2lbs*

    *EDIT 10/31: Swapped to Reverb Seatpost, Hans Dampf 2.35 Snakeskin Front, Dampf 2.25 Snakeskin Rear, Havoc Carbon 750mm bars, and Thomson 70mm stem. New net weight approx 26.8lbs.*


    Photos of build beginning with the frame purchased 8.24.2013 finishing and going on its maiden voyage yesterday Friday 9.6.2013:


    Setup as of 10.31.13:
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    Setup as of 9.13.13:

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    From Beginning to End:







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    Update 9/13, new Exotic Carbon Bars:






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    Not Your Mama's LBS Bronson Carbon

    Great looking bike

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    Re: Not Your Mama's LBS Bronson Carbon

    Nice bike!

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    RE: Not Your Mama's LBS Bronson Carbon

    Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by incubus View Post
    Great looking bike
    Quote Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    Nice bike!

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    Thanks much... On our way to our first ride Hers is a 2011 Blur LTc with XO+ build:


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    Nice. Did you go with a Medium?

    Have FUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman086 View Post
    Nice. Did you go with a Medium?


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    Yes, Medium. I could go either way but that's what was available.

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    New bike on new trails, what more can a rider ask for... Took it on the Hikes Peak trails in Santa Monica today, seen in the upper right of the first photo. Got up some tricky, rocky technical single track that demanded nimble roll over, signature 650b. Really liking the RockShox Revelation RCT3 Dual Air fork and the Evolution CTD rear shock which is proving to be a night and day difference vs. the RP23. wait to get back to the bay to try the usual stomping grounds...



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    Build looks good, but why the negative rise stem with such tall riser bars? Couldn't you just run lower rise bars?

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    I love the way that pic of the blt next to the bronson, whose wheels are barely even noticeably bigger, shows how silly this whole industry-wide push for 650b to fix something thats not broken is.
    Sorry to be negative, sweet bronson and blt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    I love the way that pic of the blt next to the bronson, whose wheels are barely even noticeably bigger, shows how silly this whole industry-wide push for 650b to fix something thats not broken is.
    Sorry to be negative, sweet bronson and blt!
    He's running a weaksauce Rocket Ron in back. The Bronson I rode had 2.4" dual ply High Roller 2's and was AT LEAST an inch and a half taller than my FREERIDE bike with 26" Big Betty 2.4's. Have to say I had the same ignorant attitude about the whole 650b thing... until I actually RODE the Bronson.

    Ignorance is bliss! (and a lot easier on your wallet, lol - I'm getting a Bronson)

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    Not Your Mama's LBS Bronson Carbon

    Ummm... Good job spending an obscene amount of money? Sweet blog dude. We should really make sure everyone that buys a new bike starts a thread about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Build looks good, but why the negative rise stem with such tall riser bars? Couldn't you just run lower rise bars?
    As mentioned, I had the Deity bars sitting around. I have the Exotic carbon bars on the way having read good reviews and because they're half the price of Thomson/Easton. I wasn't sure I would like the Revelation fork so I cut the steertube long in case I had to resell it; I am pretty much sold after yesterday's ride. One more jaunt at my usual trail to confirm the Rev fork then I will resize it.


    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    I love the way that pic of the blt next to the bronson, whose wheels are barely even noticeably bigger, shows how silly this whole industry-wide push for 650b to fix something thats not broken is.
    Sorry to be negative, sweet bronson and blt!
    Feel free to keep riding a 26" bike, doesn't change my experience. Surely a debate better discussed on the trail, I would say the difference of a 26" and 27" wheel is, well, roughly an inch Honestly I thought the same, and I said the same, then my friend fairly sternly scolded me for jumping to a conclusion based on visual conjecture... And not taking it for a ride. Then I did, and well here I am after 20 years of 26" bikes and one 29er. It's noticeable but not awkwardly noticeable as a 29 can be the first time. No one said it was broken, just like a 300hp car is still working when a 350hp car comes out There are still use cases for 26" tires, I loved descending on a big 2.4 26" Continental Trail King on my Blur TRc but it added a full lb vs a Nobby nic and that tire would kill me on the uphill on a 29 for instance.

    That is an iPhone photo, subject to angle, and it's a 2.25 rear tire, Scwalbe RR tire vs. a 2.35 Maxxis High Roller. Part of the beauty of 650b is the option to run a lighter tire but still have good roll over. I have run A LOT of tires, and I think we all know how key they are to the riding experience. As mentioned I might throw the 2.25 NN in back and run a 2.35 NN front or 2.35 Hans Dampf front. But... Just for you... Here are photos of the LTc's 2.25 NN 26" vs the Bronson's 2.25 NN 650b




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post
    Ummm... Good job spending an obscene amount of money? Sweet blog dude. We should really make sure everyone that buys a new bike starts a thread about it.
    Someone didn't get his coffee this morning! As mentioned I didn't buy one six months ago because of the price of buying new not being in line with my needs/wants in making the change to 650B. These are almost all used parts, including the frame, other than the wheel set and build kit which came from eBay; I would say this cost half of buying a complete Bronson at a shop. Sorta the point of the thread wasn't it...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    Someone didn't get his coffee this morning! As mentioned I didn't buy one six months ago because of the price of buying new not being in line with my needs/wants in making the change to 650B. These are almost all used parts, including the frame, other than the wheel set and build kit which came from eBay; I would say this cost half of buying a complete Bronson at a shop. Sorta the point of the thread wasn't it...?
    I enjoyed browsing these photos and your thread over my morning coffee, it was excellent. I appreciate your well articulated thread about your experience, as well as the photos. Knowing the dollar amount of how much a number of folks spend on bike stuff in a year, it seems you did a good job being conservative while getting your bikes worth. My grandfather was the procurement officer for the NASA space crawler, so I always enjoy the details of how beautiful pieces of technology come together to make something as a whole even more awesome.

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    That frame is ridiculously more capable than those crest wheels... consider that in your upgrade path. Revelation fork not very stiff, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    Someone didn't get his coffee this morning! As mentioned I didn't buy one six months ago because of the price of buying new not being in line with my needs/wants in making the change to 650B. These are almost all used parts, including the frame, other than the wheel set and build kit which came from eBay; I would say this cost half of buying a complete Bronson at a shop. Sorta the point of the thread wasn't it...?
    Your point wasn't obvious at all. It read like an attention whore's post about a new bike purchase/build. There's a few rolling threads for this sort of stuff. No reason to start a thread solely about your bike.

    And while I'm here, agreed on the Revelation and Crest wheels being really out of place on a bike like this, IMO, and all that.

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    and while you're here... do you have anything positive to say?

    MTBR is a pretty good place for bike porn threads like this. when a thread like this dies off, it dies off. no big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    That frame is ridiculously more capable than those crest wheels... consider that in your upgrade path. Revelation fork not very stiff, either.

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    the irony in your post is that riding over stuff is how much of us have killed sets of crest wheels.

    I too, was surprised to see them on this build. But keep slaying, you 90lb shredder you :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmr2_man View Post
    the irony in your post is that riding over stuff is how much of us have killed sets of crest wheels.

    I too, was surprised to see them on this build. But keep slaying, you 90lb shredder you :P

    I appreciate the concern and consideration of the integrity/circularity of my wheels, and the words of encouragement around my aspirations to "slay" and be an adversary of the Ninja Turtles... Not sure what insecurities lead this thread to a personal shot about my weight, but good luck with those my friend
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    Don't take this the wrong way, but I was surprised by the wheels too. You're not the first one - it looks like a lot of people have been putting Crests on 6" bikes recently.

    I'm a little jealous every time I see these 25-26lb 6" bikes. But 340g wheels wouldn't hold up on New York rocks. Even under my 150lb frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley View Post
    Don't take this the wrong way, but I was surprised by the wheels too. You're not the first one - it looks like a lot of people have been putting Crests on 6" bikes recently.

    I'm a little jealous every time I see these 25-26lb 6" bikes. But 340g wheels wouldn't hold up on New York rocks. Even under my 150lb frame.
    Look, guys, "not your mama's Bronson", title of the thread... I didn't buy this at a shop and didn't want a standard build for the riding I do. Besides, it's $85 to replace a hoop... Trust me I wish my friends rode heavier, more rigorous setups but they go light and they are fast. This is my first go at Crests but my brother won the Leavenworth race this year on 29" Crest wheels and has ridden 4-5 days a week for over a year without issue weighing 145... I am actually building a second Bronson to replace my girlfriend's LTc and plan to put these Crests on her bike then do an Arch wheelset so I can swap around depending where I ride.

    Hopefully this helps everyone move past this topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    I didn't buy this at a shop and didn't want a standard build for the riding I do.
    No shit Sherlock. Why'd you get the bike again? Oh wait, I don't care.

    Besides, it's $85 to replace a hoop... Trust me I wish my friends rode heavier, more rigorous setups but they go light and they are fast. This is my first go at Crests but my brother won the Leavenworth race this year on 29" Crest wheels and has ridden 4-5 days a week for over a year without issue weighing 145... I am actually building a second Bronson to replace my girlfriend's LTc and plan to put these Crests on her bike then do an Arch wheelset so I can swap around depending where I ride.
    Yawn. Another sweet blog post man. Let us know when your next bowel movement occurs. Super interested what happens with that.

    Epic thread brah. Way better than that socks thread. You should totally move to ColoRADo. You'd fit right in. Lots of attention whores live here. Hah

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    OP, I have a set of Crest's on my 6 inch, 26lb bike and they have held up great for the last 2 years here in Sedona, Phoenix and Flagstaff. Us lightweights can get away with a lot. My only complain about your build, since that seems to be the theme here, get a real shock.....like a Monarch Plus. It transformed my ride! Nice ride.

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    Hey Allmountaineer, **** these haters.
    Sure it's gratuitous bike porn... but that's why they came here and whey they stayed for every bit of it. You've got nothing to explain or apologize for.
    Have fun riding your obscene flexy wheeled weak tire'd bike, brah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post
    No shit Sherlock. Why'd you get the bike again? Oh wait, I don't care.

    Yawn. Another sweet blog post man. Let us know when your next bowel movement occurs. Super interested what happens with that.

    Epic thread brah. Way better than that socks thread. You should totally move to ColoRADo. You'd fit right in. Lots of attention whores live here. Hah
    Can't help but notice you are subscribed to my bowel movements, my dear Watson.

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    Who's the attention whore who does not seem able to stay away from this thread that he despises so?

    Nice bike OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post
    No shit Sherlock. Why'd you get the bike again? Oh wait, I don't care.

    Yawn. Another sweet blog post man. Let us know when your next bowel movement occurs. Super interested what happens with that.

    Epic thread brah. Way better than that socks thread. You should totally move to ColoRADo. You'd fit right in. Lots of attention whores live here. Hah
    Ya know, sometimes the best response is to STFU. You live here, great...another asshat to potentially deal with

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    For what it's worth - I love the build. Lightweight parts on a sweet frame? Sounds like a winner for some (not all clearly). If something breaks, whatever, you'll fix it and move on. I'd love to swing a leg over this bike any day and go for a spin. Hope you have some good times on it man!

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    Man, the bike looks awesome.

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    Interesting build choices. Who assembled it, your friend with the Intense? I would guess that you don't have a workstand, since it's not on one at any point during the numerous pics and it jumps from pieces to apartment parking lot glamour shots.

    When you get a workstand and some tools, the first thing to address is the cabling. Shimano pre-bled brakes come with ridiculously long housing, so I'd almost give you a pass on that, but your shift housing is no bueno as well. The housing loops in front of the headtube are far too long, and I always advocate a gentle curve to the opposite side of the frame, and then criss-cross back to the correct side underneath the top tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
    Interesting build choices. Who assembled it, your friend with the Intense? I would guess that you don't have a workstand, since it's not on one at any point during the numerous pics and it jumps from pieces to apartment parking lot glamour shots.

    When you get a workstand and some tools, the first thing to address is the cabling. Shimano pre-bled brakes come with ridiculously long housing, so I'd almost give you a pass on that, but your shift housing is no bueno as well. The housing loops in front of the headtube are far too long, and I always advocate a gentle curve to the opposite side of the frame, and then criss-cross back to the correct side underneath the top tube.
    Good eye. I assembled it all, without a stand, as I have with numerous bikes. As stated: I wasn't sure about some parts as they were a personal first... Figuring things might change I went long on cabling and will minimize the noise as the build settles into finality.

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    Nice looking bike. Not sure why so many people need to give you shit about it.....

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    ^^^I agree. Nice bike and I hope you have a blast riding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    Good eye. I assembled it all, without a stand, as I have with numerous bikes. As stated: I wasn't sure about some parts as they were a personal first... Figuring things might change I went long on cabling and will minimize the noise as the build settles into finality.
    it's actually not about noise, cable rub, or even weight.

    you will get a lot better shift and braking performance with housing that is the right length. the extra friction in sub-optimal shift cable routing can be very significant.

    and it'll look a hell of a lot better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinL View Post
    it's actually not about noise, cable rub, or even weight.

    you will get a lot better shift and braking performance with housing that is the right length. the extra friction in sub-optimal shift cable routing can be very significant.

    and it'll look a hell of a lot better.
    To clarify, I didn't say it was about any of those three things... In this context I was using the term "noise" to describe the clutter, chaos, or messiness that having long cables might cause. Kudos, however, for demonstrating an interest for perfect cabling, and imparting wisdom about cabling, with a passion few possess.

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    Just for laughs have you thought about running Bronson's on your....Bronson?

    I'm thinking about running a NN/RaRa combo; what made you go with the NN/RoRo combo?

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    I just want to keep this thread alive because so many haters seem annoyed by it.

    Oh, and keeping with the theme that is prevalent here...I think the yellow/orange they used for the Santa Cruz label should have been a hair lighter.
    Let's make like a Bike and get the Huck outta here...

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    If you like to hate on haters then you are a hater too

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    I run Crests on my TRc 650b'd rig. I was hesitant but they've held up well under my 165 riding weight. Even on the sharp-edged rock trails that I ride frequently, they're holding true. This is just a factory Stan's build too. Sure there's dings but true they are. BTW. I wouldn't buy another Stans build though. The hubs are crap. The seals are weaker than a ziplock bag.

    OP, that build weight is amazing. And Revs are awesome forks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Zoidberg View Post
    Just for laughs have you thought about running Bronson's on your....Bronson?
    I was going to suggest that. It needs to be done. by someone at least.

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    As soon as I read the OP, I was like: "He's going to get killed for his wheel choice!" You guys never disappoint. RS Pike and some derby wides and you'll have a sweet build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch View Post
    I run Crests on my TRc 650b'd rig. I was hesitant but they've held up well under my 165 riding weight. Even on the sharp-edged rock trails that I ride frequently, they're holding true. This is just a factory Stan's build too. Sure there's dings but true they are. BTW. I wouldn't buy another Stans build though. The hubs are crap. The seals are weaker than a ziplock bag.

    OP, that build weight is amazing. And Revs are awesome forks.
    Word.

    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    As soon as I read the OP, I was like: "He's going to get killed for his wheel choice!" You guys never disappoint. RS Pike and some derby wides and you'll have a sweet build.
    Meh.

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    If you like to hate on haters then you are a hater too
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    Let's make like a Bike and get the Huck outta here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    Meh.
    I did want to add that I'm not hating on the Revelation. I think it's a good fork. It's just that the Pike is not significantly heavier, but it's a much better fork for a big bike. I have some time on a 140mm Rev and now own a 150mm Pike (both 29er), so I'm not just speculating there. I'm sure the bike is awesome. Just saying that if down the road, you feel like you could use a burlier front end, don't think twice about getting the Pike. It'll be right around 4 lbs, which I'm guessing is what your Rev weights, and it will be much stiffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    I did want to add that I'm not hating on the Revelation. I think it's a good fork. It's just that the Pike is not significantly heavier, but it's a much better fork for a big bike. I have some time on a 140mm Rev and now own a 150mm Pike (both 29er), so I'm not just speculating there. I'm sure the bike is awesome. Just saying that if down the road, you feel like you could use a burlier front end, don't think twice about getting the Pike. It'll be right around 4 lbs, which I'm guessing is what your Rev weights, and it will be much stiffer.
    Nice. As mentioned in the OP, Pike was my first choice. I got the Rev through a connection for half the cost of a Pike. Noticeable difference in your experience? Think it's worth it? My buddy with the intense just grabbed a 2014 Talas 32... Looking forward to trying it out.

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    Epic build! Don't understand the hate, probably jealousy.
    I'd go for a dropper seat post. Have fun!

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    thats one nice fukin looking bike

    have fun man!

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    The Exotic Carbon 750mm Riser Handlebar arrived today... Have to admit it is eerily thin but feels very rigid and looks GREAT on the bike. The colors are a near perfect match with the frame. I also took some photos of the bars next to the Easton Haven Carbon 711mm to compare the thickness of the carbon fiber as well as the fit/finish:





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    looks dope but the sidewalls are so thin.

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    Bike looks great man ! Def trim down those lines for sure to get a cleaner look and help with function as mentioned before. Dont listen to all the little hatin punk ass kids in here , they are mad cuz they cant build what you got ha ! .

    A lot of people under estimate those wheels , and i know a lot of people that use them here on the east coast chunky terrain we got. Just ride the bike and enjoy it ! I would def recommend the ENVE bars and then cut them down , had them on my Knolly build , oh yeah and a dropper post in the near future. Either way , you have a nice build and the frame alone is worth more then the losers bikes on here that are jealous of yours haha.

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    Whoa those bars really sex'd up the front of your bike. I've never even heard of them.

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    I think you put your tires on backwards. flip your tire direction and cornering will be markedly improved i'd think. at least from my understanding and study of tread pattern. remember that as the tire rolls around to the ground the pattern egages the gound in the opposite direction. so what looks logical from looking down at the tire is opposite. most

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post
    Epic thread brah. Way better than that socks thread. You should totally move to ColoRADo. You'd fit right in. Lots of attention whores live here. Hah
    First off, way to prove to the world you have a "little-man" complex. I bet you were the kid on the playground that got-off by picking on the meek.

    Also, you appear to enjoy a first grade reading comprehension level as you cannot seem to understand sarcasm even when it's shoved down your face. Please stay outta my awesome BEST AM sock thread. However, feel free to read my follow up posts on the BEST AM ear buds, AM stems, AM housing and maybe if I can find the time I'll do a write up on the BESTEST EVAR AM sunblock. Cuz we all know if it isn't intended for All Mountain use it sure as hell isn't worth owning.

    You're a class "A" douche. Congrats. Now go neg rep me, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akiracornell View Post
    I think you put your tires on backwards. flip your tire direction and cornering will be markedly improved i'd think. at least from my understanding and study of tread pattern. remember that as the tire rolls around to the ground the pattern egages the gound in the opposite direction. so what looks logical from looking down at the tire is opposite. most
    Yea at least the front is not in the right direction from what i can see as well , look for the tire rotation arrow on the sidewall of your tire . Don't worry i've done this many times by accident and not paying attention lol .

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    Quote Originally Posted by akiracornell View Post
    I think you put your tires on backwards. flip your tire direction and cornering will be markedly improved i'd think. at least from my understanding and study of tread pattern. remember that as the tire rolls around to the ground the pattern egages the gound in the opposite direction. so what looks logical from looking down at the tire is opposite. most
    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Yea at least the front is not in the right direction from what i can see as well , look for the tire rotation arrow on the sidewall of your tire . Don't worry i've done this many times by accident and not paying attention lol .
    Come on give me a little credit here lol. The "<= Rotation" is on the left of the bike when at the top of the tire

    Quote Originally Posted by ride the biscuit View Post
    Whoa those bars really sex'd up the front of your bike. I've never even heard of them.
    Thanks, same! If I end up snapping them in two landing face first on my stem I will let you know but for now I am quite pleased : )

    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Bike looks great man ! Def trim down those lines for sure to get a cleaner look and help with function as mentioned before. Dont listen to all the little hatin punk ass kids in here , they are mad cuz they cant build what you got ha ! .

    A lot of people under estimate those wheels , and i know a lot of people that use them here on the east coast chunky terrain we got. Just ride the bike and enjoy it ! I would def recommend the ENVE bars and then cut them down , had them on my Knolly build , oh yeah and a dropper post in the near future. Either way , you have a nice build and the frame alone is worth more then the losers bikes on here that are jealous of yours haha.
    10-4, enjoying it

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Yea at least the front is not in the right direction from what i can see as well , look for the tire rotation arrow on the sidewall of your tire . Don't worry i've done this many times by accident and not paying attention lol .
    He's actually got them on correctly. Nobby Nics look wrong when they are on right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Yea at least the front is not in the right direction from what i can see as well , look for the tire rotation arrow on the sidewall of your tire . Don't worry i've done this many times by accident and not paying attention lol .
    They're on right, that's they way Nobby Nics go on - oddly, Schwalbe has them running in that direction. It looks backwards, but that's how they are marked.

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    haha sorry about that OP , .. I run Schwalbes on all my bikes . Good stuff !

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    That's crazy about nobby nics. The tread will actually funnel dirt through those side nob channels. Is that a drifty tire or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by akiracornell View Post
    That's crazy about nobby nics. The tread will actually funnel dirt through those side nob channels. Is that a drifty tire or what?
    They are pretty drifty, but a lot of fun.

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    IllMy bad.... upon further inspection... it seem the way the nobs are staggered.....there isn't much channel between nobs...rendering it still capable decent corner bite. What an odd design. They just eanted to mess with the other companies on that one I suppose.

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    Its their new "u-channel", the design is meant to eliminate squirm. Or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnigro View Post
    First off, way to prove to the world you have a "little-man" complex. I bet you were the kid on the playground that got-off by picking on the meek.

    Also, you appear to enjoy a first grade reading comprehension level as you cannot seem to understand sarcasm even when it's shoved down your face. Please stay outta my awesome BEST AM sock thread. However, feel free to read my follow up posts on the BEST AM ear buds, AM stems, AM housing and maybe if I can find the time I'll do a write up on the BESTEST EVAR AM sunblock. Cuz we all know if it isn't intended for All Mountain use it sure as hell isn't worth owning.

    You're a class "A" douche. Congrats. Now go neg rep me, please.
    Man, are you wrong. No shit the socks thread was sarcasm, maybe you missed my sarcasm?

    I don't have a problem with the bike, I have a problem with someone creating a thread about a pretty boring bike build when there's a bazillion other threads (implicitly stickied) for people to show their bike. Whoopdie-do, you saved a couple pounds with a flexy fork, flexy wheels, and weight weenie tires. Any moron can do that. This bike deserves better. I could understand if this was a 'no budget build' or something actually interesting, but it's really just a pos drivel from someone who wants some attention. Guess what, there's already a thread created for that shit!

    You can go crawl back into your hole now.

    Oh, and for the other lemmings, it has nothing to with jealousy. For the same price, I own a beefy Nomad that I can take to the park/shuttle and can slam through trail rock gardens at full speed, AND a nimble, faster, lighter, more playful ASR5 that zips through milder trails. I'd take these over a Bronson (weight-weenied or not) any day of the week. I like a quiver of bikes just as much as a quiver of skis (even better since you don't have to deal with mechanicals right away)..

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    Lindahl, you are an enormous dildo!

    How was there any sarcasm in your statement that I quoted? If sarcasm was implied you did a piss poor job displaying it. Go read your post again. If you have a college degree, I would file an appeal and try to get your money back.

    You ***** about the OP starting a boring thread that no one is forcing you to read but its OK for you to open a thread to ask how a blur XC and blur TR compare.

    Further, I point out what an enormous asshat you were being and you up the anty by continuing to insult the OP, calling him a moron, degrading him and his build choice and just proving to everyone that you have a 2 inch prick and need to play the role of a hardass on a biking forum.

    For a guy that just started started mountain biking 2 years ago you seem to know everything. Started riding on a Nomad, huh? Maybe you hqve to plough through trail rock gardens at full speed because you learned how to ride on a 6 inch sled and didn't build enough skills to learn how to pick through the trail. By the way, WTF is a "trail rock garden" is that different than another type of rock garden. And exactly what does zipping down a trail look like? Please enlighten us with you many years of acquired expertise. If you did have any skills you'd be able to rip those same trails on the ASR5 - I know, have one too.

    You're a farking elitist douche nozzle who needs to have his ass whooped by a real man. Head back to the ski slopes snowball.

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    Not Your Mama's LBS Bronson Carbon

    Quote Originally Posted by mnigro View Post
    Lindahl, you are an enormous dildo!

    How was there any sarcasm in your statement that I quoted? If sarcasm was implied you did a piss poor job displaying it. Go read your post again. If you have a college degree, I would file an appeal and try to get your money back.

    You ***** about the OP starting a boring thread that no one is forcing you to read but its OK for you to open a thread to ask how a blur XC and blur TR compare.

    Further, I point out what an enormous asshat you were being and you up the anty by continuing to insult the OP, calling him a moron, degrading him and his build choice and just proving to everyone that you have a 2 inch prick and need to play the role of a hardass on a biking forum.

    For a guy that just started started mountain biking 2 years ago you seem to know everything. Started riding on a Nomad, huh? Maybe you hqve to plough through trail rock gardens at full speed because you learned how to ride on a 6 inch sled and didn't build enough skills to learn how to pick through the trail. By the way, WTF is a "trail rock garden" is that different than another type of rock garden. And exactly what does zipping down a trail look like? Please enlighten us with you many years of acquired expertise. If you did have any skills you'd be able to rip those same trails on the ASR5 - I know, have one too.

    You're a farking elitist douche nozzle who needs to have his ass whooped by a real man. Head back to the ski slopes snowball.
    Sorry if I didn't spell the sarcasm out for you. Didn't think it needed pointing out. Here: 'Way better thread than if someone had actually created a real socks thread' (sarcasm)

    Not sure how a Blur XC and TRC differentiation isn't a valid curiousity. I wanted to know how the two different suspension designs felt in terms of my desires (yes, one VPP can feel different from other VPP). Due to lack of response, I sourced out both and they did feel different. The TRc felt very similar to the mk2 Nomad, but a little less plush. The XCc felt quite different. It felt like it had a more significant midstroke platform, it had more spring to it (not as much as I wanted though). I suppose I could have gotten there with some solid experience in shock tuning (or money), but the ASR5 just worked. It is naturally a very poppy bike. Looking forward to taking it on jump trails.

    I like plowing through rock gardens. I can easily pick and choose smoother lines (like I do on the ASR5) but I'd rather haul ass in, let the bike soak up my mistakes and haul ass out. I also like the feel a bike being calm under me through chunk (same with skis in crud - it feels like my Head 103s). I'll purposely pick rougher lines because its fun. The Nomad allows me to go faster without feeling it in my body as much, including airing into and through rock gardens. I tested about 10 different bikes on trail before deciding on the Nomad for this very reason (it climbed well enough also). I also wanted a bike that could handle Keystone, but that was a secondary desire.

    A trail rock garden is a (hopefully) natural rock garden found on the trail, not one set up at a bike park. Its the nature, location and pedal-up aspect. I'm surprised I had to explain that.

    For someone that likes to condemn another for insulting, you sure do a lot of it yourself - and in a quite nonsensical/spastic way at that.

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    You keep digging the hole deeper and deeper. The fact that you felt a need to respond to my entire post tells me that I struck a chord. That is good as it was the point.

    Now, the reason that I called you out and started to screw with you is that I don't like a bully, virtual or otherwise. You could have simply opened the OP's thread, noticed it was long and self indulging, closed the page and moved on. Instead you felt the need to drop insults and say mean things purposely to make the guy feel bad. IMO, that makes you a jerk off so I called you out.

    The next time you make comments directed towards someone, either online or in person, take a minute and think before you do so. Now take your lesson in humility and lets part ways.

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    Not sure what measurement we are using here but my experience is that a bike you can casually bomb through rock gardens will lose out on a diverse, 1-2hr+ "all mountain" ride. You might pick up a click on the down but with heavy wheels/tires, a big/tall/heavy fork riding chopper, etc but lose out hard on the uphill.

    Great riders can go down on just about anything... This week my brother and I didn't have our bikes, he best me on his old 1996 Stumpjumper while I was on a 2013 TRc, this was up at Galbraith in Bellingham, WA. Definitely a trail I suggest as a destination on your way to Squamish/Whistler : )

    Anyway, let's get the thread back on track and focus on the topic: a snappy/lightweight 6" bike that can AM or XC and never feels at a notable disadvantage in either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnigro View Post
    You keep digging the hole deeper and deeper. The fact that you felt a need to respond to my entire post tells me that I struck a chord. That is good as it was the point.

    Now, the reason that I called you out and started to screw with you is that I don't like a bully, virtual or otherwise. You could have simply opened the OP's thread, noticed it was long and self indulging, closed the page and moved on. Instead you felt the need to drop insults and say mean things purposely to make the guy feel bad. IMO, that makes you a jerk off so I called you out.

    The next time you make comments directed towards someone, either online or in person, take a minute and think before you do so. Now take your lesson in humility and lets part ways.
    You asked questions, I answered them? It keeps popping up at the top of my phone in the limited real estate. I tried to let the thread die, but it kept popping up with 'nice bike dude' and other blowjob comments. Like I said, this should have been posted in the numerous other threads littered with this kind of content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    Not sure what measurement we are using here but my experience is that a bike you can casually bomb through rock gardens will lose out on a diverse, 1-2hr+ "all mountain" ride. You might pick up a click on the down but with heavy wheels/tires, a big/tall/heavy fork riding chopper, etc but lose out hard on the uphill.
    Quite true. I ride up to go down though and don't race. Different strokes for different folks. I'll gladly spend an extra 30 minutes climbing to have a burlier bike for the down (depending on the trail, of course).

    Great riders can go down on just about anything... This week my brother and I didn't have our bikes, he best me on his old 1996 Stumpjumper while I was on a 2013 TRc, this was up at Galbraith in Bellingham, WA. Definitely a trail I suggest as a destination on your way to Squamish/Whistler
    Sure, a great rider can send a 30' gap on a hardtail bike, but that's hardly giving himself a margin of error, now is it? He won't do that over and over, I guarantee it. It's about picking the right bike for the job (or dealing with what you have).

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    Lindahl- Hush , sit down like a good lil boy . Thank you , now your dismissed.

    Back on topic people before your stupid useless comments gets the OPs thread locked up for the shit show.

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    I'm always amazed when anonymous strangers feel like they have the right to show up and shit on your new bike stoke. Gorgeous new bike, Allmountaineer! I just got a new Solo that i love so I know how excited you must be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    I am actually building a second Bronson to replace my girlfriend's LTc and plan to put these Crests on her bike then do an Arch wheelset so I can swap around depending where I ride.

    Hopefully this helps everyone move past this topic
    Why buy a new bronson? 650b wheels will plug right into that Blur LTc. Woman naturally have longer legs / shorter torso relative to men, so the shorter TT of the BLTc would be a better fit anyway.

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    What's this world coming to, when people post their bikes on a bike forum?!?! Nice rig. The Bronson is gonna be the first bike I ride if/when I try out 650b.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    Why buy a new bronson? 650b wheels will plug right into that Blur LTc. Woman naturally have longer legs / shorter torso relative to men, so the shorter TT of the BLTc would be a better fit anyway.
    Because he's looking forward to more lovin' when he posts a thread about building that bike. Oo the suspense... I can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by akiracornell View Post
    IllMy bad.... upon further inspection... it seem the way the nobs are staggered.....there isn't much channel between nobs...rendering it still capable decent corner bite. What an odd design. They just eanted to mess with the other companies on that one I suppose.
    They're German... do they have a sense of humor? I've used them up front and liked them quite a bit (though they don't wear well). But I'm not much of a downhiller!

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    Just rode Tamarancho in San Rafael/Fairfax (Marin, CA) this morning. First time I remember getting to the end thinking "over already?"... Had no problem keeping up with one of my faster friends on his 24lb Superfly 29er. After the ride I got an official weigh in at Fairfax Cycelry of 25.3lbs, confirming my home scale is within +/- 0.1lbs.

    I found myself riding at 120mm much of the time which made the Bronson felt very sporty/tight. I hit a pretty decent rock running at 150mm and felt like the Rockshox Revelation saved my butt in a way I don't remember the Fox 32 CTD forks doing so on the TRc or Carbine. I am really pleased with this fork overall, I ran the compression on the middle click for a good part of the ride which is a nice change of pace. I normally run Fox forks wide open and rarely feel comfortable turning it up.

    I did slide out exiting one downhill switchback, I might need to turn down the rebound on the rear shock. Also due to running the Rocket Ron on the rear and generally needing more practice on the new bike (and in general ). Aside from that one turn, the Rocket Ron rode great, noticeably better on a 650b wheel than on the TRc's 26" wheel. The bigger wheel seems to make better use of the tread as is commonly noted on 29" bikes.

    I might take the 750mm bars down to 740mm. 750mm felt a hair wide for the overall setup though I am sure on bigger downhill rides it would be great. Overall, I am really psyched with the bike. I almost felt like a 140mm fork would make it a bit more my style... particularly after riding my friend's TRc 650b earlier in the week. The 150mm feels a bit much most of the time but I did like the extra few inches on the Bottom Bracket over the Solo/TRc. Either way, it certainly peaks my curiosity about the Solo as a potential next project...

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckledtrout View Post
    I'm always amazed when anonymous strangers feel like they have the right to show up and shit on your new bike stoke. Gorgeous new bike, Allmountaineer! I just got a new Solo that i love so I know how excited you must be!
    It always amazes me when an anonymous stranger posts up bike build, especially with silly parts, and expects only praise. This is a PUBLIC forum, where everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because you don't agree with it, or it is not what you want to hear, does not make it wrong. If you post up, man up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotth72 View Post
    It always amazes me when an anonymous stranger posts up bike build, especially with silly parts, and expects only praise. This is a PUBLIC forum, where everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because you don't agree with it, or it is not what you want to hear, does not make it wrong. If you post up, man up.
    Ok yet another derail...

    I believe the title of the thread acknowledges this is an unorthodox build... and I think I rolled with the punches pretty well, so just because others acknowledge the immature, personal bullshit being squeezed in between the bricks of opinion that make up the responses, certainly doesn't mean I need to man up. That said, thanks for stopping by

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    Ok yet another derail...

    I believe the title of the thread acknowledges this is an unorthodox build... and I think I rolled with the punches pretty well, so just because others acknowledge the immature, personal bullshit being squeezed in between the bricks of opinion that make up the responses, certainly doesn't mean I need to man up. That said, thanks for stopping by

    On topic then.
    Wow. A Bronson with flexy wheels. Great. Did you build this bike to actually ride, or to take pics of it and brag about it on mtbr?

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    I can dig a bronson with light wheels. The emphasis is obviously on pedaling but have plenty of suspension when needed. As long as you not too out of control you won't taco. Different strokes. There's no one way to get your stoke. I been riding my bmx bike for the last 6 weeks. Practicing manuals, sprints, gaps around town. Can't wait to get out in the mountain tommorow. My sustained cardio will be sh!ty.... but I got the feeling I'm gonna be snappy and flowy.

    Hey and about those trail gardens. In actuality if we think about it, it may not have the rocks moved into place.....but originally it was the first man who was cutting the trail who visualized the line going through the section how ever it goes through. So in a way it was man made..... by someone elses vision through it.

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    On topic then.
    Wow. A Bronson with flexy wheels. Great. Did you build this bike to actually ride, or to take pics of it and brag about it on mtbr?
    Ride it? Why would someone ride a bike? Seriously though, I truly appreciate your contribution to the thread. Here I always thought Flex Wheeler was a famous body builder... turns out it's the new name for my bicycle! Thanks for helping name my wobbly-legged steed

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountaineer View Post
    Just rode Tamarancho in San Rafael/Fairfax (Marin, CA) this morning. First time I remember getting to the end thinking "over already?"... Had no problem keeping up with one of my faster friends on his 24lb Superfly 29er. After the ride I got an official weigh in at Fairfax Cycelry of 25.3lbs, confirming my home scale is within +/- 0.1lbs.

    I found myself riding at 120mm much of the time which made the Bronson felt very sporty/tight. I hit a pretty decent rock running at 150mm and felt like the Rockshox Revelation saved my butt in a way I don't remember the Fox 32 CTD forks doing so on the TRc or Carbine. I am really pleased with this fork overall, I ran the compression on the middle click for a good part of the ride which is a nice change of pace. I normally run Fox forks wide open and rarely feel comfortable turning it up.

    I did slide out exiting one downhill switchback, I might need to turn down t rebound on the rear shock. Also due to running the Rocket Ron on the rear and generally needing more practice on the new bike (and in general ). Aside from that one turn, the Rocket Ron rode great, noticeably better on a 650b wheel than on the TRc's 26" wheel. The bigger wheel seems to make better use of the tread as is commonly noted on 29" bikes.

    I might take the 750mm bars down to 740mm. 750mm felt a hair wide for the overall setup though I am sure on bigger downhill rides it would be great. Overall, I am really psyched with the bike. I almost felt like a 140mm fork would make it a bit more my style... particularly after riding my friend's TRc 650b earlier in the week. The 150mm feels a bit much most of the time but I did like the extra few inches on the Bottom Bracket over the Solo/TRc. Either way, it certainly peaks my curiosity about the Solo as a potential next project...
    You can put a spacer or two in that fork to make 140 or 130. Google or youtube it. Not that difficult. Just get some replacement oil and order the spacers. And some snap ring pliers. You probably have the other tools.

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    I do not understand the hate being thrown the OP's way. Seems to me he's just stoked on a bike he built and wants to show it here. He could have posted it in the AM sticky but he chose to make a thread for his new bicycle. So what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Brown View Post
    I do not understand the hate being thrown the OP's way. Seems to me he's just stoked on a bike he built and wants to show it here. He could have posted it in the AM sticky but he chose to make a thread for his new bicycle. So what?
    I'm not saying it is warranted but the hate is because his posts reads like he is thinking out loud about his new bike, convincing himself he made the correct purchase decision and waffling back and forth on the minutia out loud for the world to see....rather than providing any sort of useful information in the form of a bike review or asking valid questions.

    Is there a rule against creating posts void of any useful information? Of course not! So OP is well within his right to continue on with such drivel as post #79 (that post reads like you're just fanning flames). However, I've seen quite a few threads go south, and it is clear to me that this thread has flown so far off the rails as to have absolutely no chance getting back on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride the biscuit View Post
    I'm not saying it is warranted but the hate is because his posts reads like he is thinking out loud about his new bike, convincing himself he made the correct purchase decision and waffling back and forth on the minutia out loud for the world to see....rather than providing any sort of useful information in the form of a bike review or asking valid questions.

    Is there a rule against creating posts void of any useful information? Of course not! So OP is well within his right to continue on with such drivel as post #79 (that post reads like you're just fanning flames). However, I've seen quite a few threads go south, and it is clear to me that this thread has flown so far off the rails as to have absolutely no chance getting back on topic.
    Probably one of the more insightful psychological analyses provided in this thread however useless it might be to the topic. At any rate, one might argue that anyone riding a wheel size including a fraction is waffling, in the most decisive way possible

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    Nice to see a food fight on MTBR that I'm not a part of. IME, you're more likely to catch crap in the AM forum than elsewhere on MTBR. So I generally post elsewhere. But here goes:

    If it makes OP feel any better about those flimsy wheels, I built up a Jamis 650b using closeout 2010 frame and a bunch of used eBay parts plus swaps from my other bikes. This is only a 130mm bike, but my front wheel has a CK 20mm hub laced to Crest rims. Try that for a mismatch. And I'm over 190 lbs. I got a WB Fluid 650b fork, the wheel and a Pacenti Neo Moto 2.3 tire used on eBay from a guy who said it was a take off from his wife's bike. The total price was about equal to the hub alone. What are you going to do with a deal like that? Take it? Or leave it for fear some wanker will ridicule you. I took it of course and it has held up over 2 years of fairly rugged riding. But I'm anything but a fearless, athletic, hucking AM stud.
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    Man so this thread is something. I have had my bronson a little over a month and love it with the exception of the cost despite the fact I got a great deal. They are super expensive. So you got a cool frame and sounds like most of your parts for a good price which is awesome. Hopefully everything holds up and if not you deal with that when it happens. Would I build it exactly like you? No but that is most bikes on here. At least your more budget friendly bike looks sick. A lot of people spend a bunch and have ugly bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckledtrout View Post
    I'm always amazed when anonymous strangers feel like they have the right to show up and shit on your new bike stoke. Gorgeous new bike, Allmountaineer! I just got a new Solo that i love so I know how excited you must be!
    You really have to wear your fire retardant suit when you post in the All Mountain forum. The way I interpreted this post:

    It sounds like the OP test rode a Bronson at his local bike shop and then purchased it somewhere else? He wasn't clear on this fact. So maybe I'm wrong but I can't stand it when people engage in showrooming, especially when they brag about it on the web. Read here if you're not familiar with the concept: The Angry Singlespeeder: Don?t ?Showroom? Your Local Bike Shop | Mountain Bike Review

    Then he builds the bike up with light parts that many would not consider durable enough for the style of riding this forum references and proceeds to claim how "All Mountain" it is while dishing on stock builds from the bike shop that he originally test rode the bike at, with a subtle undertone of "my bike is better than yours."

    When I think of "All Mountain" I picture rugged trails with jumps and drops where 1500g wheels wouldn't hold up very well. I think other people do too and that's probably the reason why this thread has gone for 4 pages now.

    I mean jeez, if you can't be critical and judgmental in the All Mountain forum, where can you do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley View Post
    You really have to wear your fire retardant suit when you post in the All Mountain forum. The way I interpreted this post:

    It sounds like the OP test rode a Bronson at his local bike shop and then purchased it somewhere else? He wasn't clear on this fact. So maybe I'm wrong but I can't stand it when people engage in showrooming, especially when they brag about it on the web. Read here if you're not familiar with the concept: The Angry Singlespeeder: Don?t ?Showroom? Your Local Bike Shop | Mountain Bike Review

    Then he builds the bike up with light parts that many would not consider durable enough for the style of riding this forum references and proceeds to claim how "All Mountain" it is while dishing on stock builds from the bike shop that he originally test rode the bike at, with a subtle undertone of "my bike is better than yours."

    When I think of "All Mountain" I picture rugged trails with jumps and drops where 1500g wheels wouldn't hold up very well. I think other people do too and that's probably the reason why this thread has gone for 4 pages now.

    I mean jeez, if you can't be critical and judgmental in the All Mountain forum, where can you do it?
    ...sigh* I provided Mikes Bikes, hardly a true "LBS", a shot at my business for what I was willing to pay/able to rationalize. They didn't meet the mark so I took the responsible approach and took my time. If I had millions of dollars I would have purchased it, but don't parade your capitalist hypnosis around here like that's what makes you a responsible American because that irrational emotion for buying without consideration is the same one that has driven this country into financial crises. The frame I picked up was a month old; I bought it from a guy that switched all his parts to a Solo frame.

    The bike has been down Cinderella and Chaparral in Joaquin Miller Park, without issue, if that isn't "All Mountain" enough then stop calling "Downhill" "All-Mountain" because you're probably just riding downhill and pedaling back in granny gear rather than taking a lift back up to the top. My definition of all mountain includes being able to hit most DH trails and being able to pedal at a respectable XC pace. If all mountain isn't optimizing a bike for all those conditions then what is all mountain?

    To me it's all about being on a single bike as often as possible, rather than having one for each scenario. My personal preference because we get better when we are familiar with a platform and know what to expect. When I am tired and about to do a difficult climb or descent the last think I want to do is try to remember the nuances of the particular rig I am riding right before I make a decision.

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    Just for comparison....here's the Bronson Carbon that does bleong to yo mama:


    _DSC6982 by emailsucks98, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Just for comparison....here's the Bronson Carbon that does bleong to yo mama:


    _DSC6982 by emailsucks98, on Flickr
    Heavy-ass stock build....TEH LAMEZ!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeePhroh View Post
    Heavy-ass stock build....TEH LAMEZ!!
    Is that pic at Spooner Summit, NV, by any chance? Looks damn familiar. If you peddled a "heavy ass" bike up all the way from Spooner Lake to Marlet Lake then bore right on the fire road, then left on the single track up (Red House Flume?) to where I THINK the pic was taken, you are Bad Ass. I cleaned that on an XC bike and almost coughed up a lung. 30 lbs bike, for me I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    Is that pic at Spooner Summit, NV, by any chance? Looks damn familiar. If you peddled a "heavy ass" bike up all the way from Spooner Lake to Marlet Lake then bore right on the fire road, then left on the single track up (Red House Flume?) to where I THINK the pic was taken, you are Bad Ass. I cleaned that on an XC bike and almost coughed up a lung. 30 lbs bike, for me I don't think so.
    Nope (I took that photo).
    In fact that's not even on a ride, we just pulled over on the side of the highway for that photo. Then I dropped GeePhroh and the Bronson off at his momas for supper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    Is that pic at Spooner Summit, NV, by any chance? Looks damn familiar. If you peddled a "heavy ass" bike up all the way from Spooner Lake to Marlet Lake then bore right on the fire road, then left on the single track up (Red House Flume?) to where I THINK the pic was taken, you are Bad Ass. I cleaned that on an XC bike and almost coughed up a lung. 30 lbs bike, for me I don't think so.
    Nope...Angels' Staircase loop in WA state, right above Cooney Lake. But a good guess 'cause I've been up here:


    (thanks, Wherewolf!)

    a bunch of times, too. I think Angels' is actually a little bit higher...

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    Slightly more All Mountain as of today, now back up to 26.2lbs : ) Who can point out the difference... (yes the fork was set down to 120mm in this photo)Not Your Mama's LBS Bronson Carbon-bronson-4.jpg

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    Reverb. Way more all mountain if you ask me. Nothing slower and inhibited on a steep downhill than a post all way to the sky.

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    interesting.
    I think my mother has that exact bike.
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