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    Nomad or Moment

    One of my riding buddies is after a new bike and he's narrowed it down to two
    1-Santa Cruz Nomad
    2-Ellsworth Moment
    He's not sure which one would be the better bike to get.The Moment is heavier and the rear end works a different way to the Nomad's but they pedal so well and the finish on them is superb.The Nomad has half an inch more travel on the rear but would that really be noticeable.The type of riding he does is more freeride than anything,he needs a bike that he can pedal up the hills as well as blast down them,doesn't really do any bigger drops than about 3 to 4 foot.
    So come on guys which do you think would be the one for him

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    Sounds like both bikes would be good. I just sold my old RFX and bought a Nomad and am very happy. The Nomad has better geometry for the kind of riding that I enjoy. I have never bought a bike and felt instantly comfortable, the first day on it. Also, it is fairly easy to build a relatively light Nomad.

    I don't know why your friend has narrowed it down to just two choices. There are a lot of really good all mountain bikes out there right now. Make sure he takes his time before deciding and even tries to demo or ride friend's bikes.

    The Nomad is just my opinion. I think that different bikes fit different people's body structure better.

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    Tel him to wait and check out the NEW TITUS El Guapo. Its a 6.5" trail bike that looks to be pretty bad A$$.
    I Currently own a MOMENT and love it. BUT, I'm realy looking forward to checking out the TITUS.
    As far as the Nomad..... Its a sick bike but I'm just not a fan of VPP.


    If he needs a bike now tell him to get either a Turner RFX or the MOMENT.

    Just my .02

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    At considerable risk of starting the nine-billionth thread on defining "all-mountain" I have to ask about a perceived contradiction:

    If you are only talking 3-4 foot drops, you may want to consider a lighter 5" travel bike. Nomad and Moment are indeed sweet "freeride"-ish bikes, but what you are describing sounds more like "agressive cross country" or "light All-mountain" and may be better served by a 5.5, 575, X5, etc.

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    Nomad is a do it all...

    believe the hype.

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    Both are great bikes, but I couldn't get comfortable on the Moment. I was inbetween a Lg and Md. Have your friend try out a Moment and see if he fits the frame. I ended up with a Lg. Nomad and I've been very happy with it. Oh yeah, I concur with Nativeson, Believe the Hype, it's an amazing climber to.

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    [QUOTE=heavyg]At considerable risk of starting the nine-billionth thread on defining "all-mountain" I have to ask about a perceived contradiction:[QUOTE]

    With the weight of some of today's "all mountain" bikes does the amount of travel even matter anymore? I know that I will probably be tar'd and feathered for even writing this, but if you had your choice between a 32 pound 5 inch bike or a 32 pound 6.5 inch bike what would you choose? I think more riders would rather own a bike with more travel than not enough. That way, when riding and confidence improve you won't be out at the LBS buying the 6.5 inch travel bike that you could have bought 6 months ago.

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    True that...

    Quote Originally Posted by nativeson
    believe the hype.
    I'm amazed with the Nomad on every single ride. Its too hype. While I haven't spent qaulity time on a Moment, I've ridden HL/4/faux bar bikes of different flavors and none did it for me.
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    Alright!, heat up the tar!

    [QUOTE=Bonz][QUOTE=heavyg]At considerable risk of starting the nine-billionth thread on defining "all-mountain" I have to ask about a perceived contradiction:

    With the weight of some of today's "all mountain" bikes does the amount of travel even matter anymore? I know that I will probably be tar'd and feathered for even writing this, but if you had your choice between a 32 pound 5 inch bike or a 32 pound 6.5 inch bike what would you choose? I think more riders would rather own a bike with more travel than not enough. That way, when riding and confidence improve you won't be out at the LBS buying the 6.5 inch travel bike that you could have bought 6 months ago.
    LOL!...actually Bonz, I think that's pretty good logic and probably the thinking that drew most of us to these 6", or so, type bikes...and also why most of us are still happy with them. OK boys...take the tar off the fire.

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    On The Fence With Nomad Also

    I HOPE I DON'T REGRET THIS AS I NEVER EVER POST(WE'LL THERE WAS THIS ONE TIME)BUT I LIVE ON THIS FORUM READING ALL THE VERY VERY GOOD INFO AND FEED BACK YOU GUYS HAVE TO OFFER. I MUST SAY THAT I TOO AM ON THE FENCE WITH THE VP STUFF.HAVING JUST FINISHED BUILDING A VERY PRICEY AND BAD AS$ TURNER 6 PACK,I'M JUST NOT THAT THRILLED WHEN I RIDE IT. AND I HATE THE WEIGHT.EVEN THOUGH THE UPGRADE TO A C.C.D.B. WAS GREAT,I'M JUST NOT FEELING IT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.I ALSO OWN A WAY SICK 39 POUND BOMB PROOF ALUTECH HARD RIDE 1.5 (7INCH ROCKER BIKE)GO TO PINK BIKE LINKS ALUTECH BIKE OR I THINK WWW.ALUTECH BIKES.COM ANYWAY MY POINT IS THE 39 POUND ALUTECH PEDELS AND FEELS LIKE ITS ALOT LIGHTER,AND TAKES BIG DROPS ALL DAY LONG (20 PLUS)GO TO WWW.DIESELBIKES.COM A.K.A CRAZY FRED. I JUST LIKE THE SOUND OF A 29 TO 31 POUND VP BIKE.IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT?AND ONE OF MY CLOSE FREINDS WAS HARD CORE HL TURNER FAN,AND JUST SOLD HIS 5 SPOT AND 6 PACK FOR A 6.6 AND A 5.5 AND HE IS HOOKED HARD. ANYWAY I'M SURE THE TURNER BOYS ARE GOING TO LOVE THIS POST.AND SORRY IF MY TYPING IS NOT UP TO PAR,THE LAST TIME I POSTED ON HERE IT TURN INTO THIS HUGE MONSTER POST WENT ON FOR SIX WEEKS 6,000 VIEWS AND OVER I THINK 400 REPLIES. I JUST WANT THE BEST BIKE THERE IS FOR ME AND RIGHT NOW ITS NOT THE 6 PACK THANKS GUYS.........RIDE ON>>>>>

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    Hey Fred, Your typing is ok, but try not to type with the caps on. Man, you are going to hear it from the Homer nation. LOL! I used to have a 6-Pack and I am on a Chumba Evo now. The Evo feels a little easier to pedal around on and it is around the same weight as my Pack was, at 35-36lbs.

    You could get a lighter wheelset and rubber for the Pack, which would save a few pounds. Rolling resistance makes a big difference when trail riding and most of a bikes weight is in the wheels and tires.

    There is nothing wrong with trying out a VP bike. Just remember, the Nomad frame is almost exactly the same weight as a Pack/RFX. It has more to do with the parts that are on the bike, than frame weight of the frame itself. The Nomad does pedal well, but the Pack is a good trail bike also. I am still leary of VPP bike myself, but the proof is in the pudding and there a whole bunch of happy Nomad and 6.6 riders out there right now.

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    Welcome back Fred! I'm not sure if the Nomad will take your monster drops, maybe a VP Free or Intense VPX?

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    Buy the one that looks cooler.

    Really, about that comment on a 6.5 inch travel frame vs. 5 inch frame for the same weight....
    You are dumb. Buy the one that suits your terrain. Unless you are doing huge gaps, hucks to flat, etc, there is no way that you will need 6.5.

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    Thanks guys, but I just don't understand how on the Santa Cruz site (bike builder) you can put together a as light as 28 to 31 pound Nomad xo kit rp23 rear shock nixon front shock just for example.Also those monster drops you speak of seem to be a thing of the past,at least so far this season.I'm having a really hard time this year.I had surgery this past Feb.and didn't get on a bike until May.I've got like 20 min. of footage for this years video,where I should have at least a couple of hours,and I haven't gone off anything bigger than a curb thus far. If I decide to step it up I've got untill The end of Sept. till the video wraps up.If not i don't really care,I just don't have the desiere to throw my self of of stupid sh#t this year.I just want to ride.Anyway If I do want to go big I've got the Alutech. I'm on a mission for the sickest trail bike. Light Nomad or 6.6 or 5.5 if Ifind vp is where its at if not 5 spot Moto light(depending on what happens to Titus with Chris gone) Ibis Mojo,it goes on and on and on,I have got the bug bad.(I've been mountain biking for 18 years)21 pound kleins in the late eights to this. What ever it is I'll wait till Oct. Interbike. Thanks again guys.

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    Sorry Bonz...

    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero
    Buy the one that looks cooler.

    Really, about that comment on a 6.5 inch travel frame vs. 5 inch frame for the same weight....
    You are dumb. Buy the one that suits your terrain. Unless you are doing huge gaps, hucks to flat, etc, there is no way that you will need 6.5.
    This Zero guy says we heat up the tar again. "You are dumb"??? Nice discussion tactic on a subject that is definitely subjective. Zero, you are certainly entitled to your opinion about the travel amount on bikes...and so is Bonz...and so am I. I can rationalize where you're coming from on your opinion, but I disagree with you. I've owned a whole bunch of full suspension bikes over the years ranging from 2" max travel all the way to over 7". The current 33lb., 6.5" travel bike I ride now allows me to do more than the shorter travel bikes in the 5" range that I've owned or ridden...and no...I'm not doing huge gaps. This is my opinion...you disagree...you are not dumb...and neither am I.

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    First, don't believe the hype. Why, because it's hype.
    Second, I have a Nomad and like it a lot, more even than I expected.
    Third, he should ride both.
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    Sorry, taking it OT

    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    I MUST SAY THAT I TOO AM ON THE FENCE WITH THE VP STUFF.HAVING JUST FINISHED BUILDING A VERY PRICEY AND BAD AS$ TURNER 6 PACK,I'M JUST NOT THAT THRILLED WHEN I RIDE IT. AND I HATE THE WEIGHT.EVEN THOUGH THE UPGRADE TO A C.C.D.B. WAS GREAT,I'M JUST NOT FEELING IT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM
    You're not the first person to express these sentiments. IIRC there are a few guys that switched from a Pack/RFX to a VPP bike (Turtle 1 and Aappling come to mind). Other than weight (which possibly could be remedied with some component exchanges) what don't you like about the Pack's ride/handling?

    Have you thought about converting your RFX to a 5 Pack? That would involve swapping in the 5" Spot rockers and swingarm. It would give you a slightly lighter frame, a lower leverage ratio and potentially better performance. Plus a more "trail-bike" like feel. There is lots of good info about this on the Turner forum, do search on it and you'll have reading material for days.

    Regarding the Turner forum and your "infamous" post, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty new in that forum, but I got the sense that your post really threw them for a loop. In a way, I think it made some of them realize that sometimes they take things a little too seriously. And I think you put some of them in their place, and that was actually a good thing for that forum. I guarantee that if you hung around that forum you'd see that there are some pretty decent and knowledgeble guys over there. And if you started posting, that you would be welcome with open arms. No joke, and I'm not trying to be e-gay or anything.

    Good luck with your bike decision and I'm sure I'll see you around.

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    To put it simply....the Nomad will pedal a little better than the Moment, and the Moment will have slightly better traction than the Nomad. You can't go wrong with either. Hell, ride one for 6 months, sell it on ebay, then ride the other and tell us what you think.
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    get a Chumba EVO!! it pedals really well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero
    Buy the one that looks cooler.

    Really, about that comment on a 6.5 inch travel frame vs. 5 inch frame for the same weight....
    You are dumb. Buy the one that suits your terrain. Unless you are doing huge gaps, hucks to flat, etc, there is no way that you will need 6.5.
    Nobody needs 6.5" but they might well prefer it. I probably only need 4" travel for most of my riding, but I ride a 6" travel bike because I can
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    5 Pack could be what you're looking for CF mine comes in at 6.9lb with a DHX-A, lower BB, same headangle as a Pack, snappier feel to the pedals, works really nicely on all kinds of trails and still tougher than most.

    I've tried a VPP 5.5 and while it climbed well and was very efficient, think ubber fast xc rig, I found it lacking as an all rounder compared to a 5 Spot or similar. The steep head angle for a 5.5" bike just didn't work for me and on the real steeps once you hit the rear brake the back extends pushing the front forks even lower in their travel making it feel real nervous. Great fast xc bike though, one other thing with the VPP frames don't expect to get a real big tyre in and have any mud room left over, Turner does that really well on all his frames.

    Good luck finding the right ride, it might be worth getting a few test rides before making a switch.
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    Hey Crazy Fred, I just went to the Alutech website. Something disturbs me about their Freeride frame: The 3.6 to 1 leverage ratio in the 7 inch configuration! And I thought the 6-pack was bad at 3:1. A guy your size is gonna blow thru the travel, like he was on a Costco Motiv!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms
    .... Hell, ride one for 6 months, sell it on ebay, then ride the other and tell us what you think.
    Sounds like what I would do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms
    Hell, ride one for 6 months, sell it on ebay, then ride the other and tell us what you think.
    He probably doesn't want to throw away his money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinSC
    You're not the first person to express these sentiments. IIRC there are a few guys that switched from a Pack/RFX to a VPP bike (Turtle 1 and Aappling come to mind). Other than weight (which possibly could be remedied with some component exchanges) what don't you like about the Pack's ride/handling?

    Have you thought about converting your RFX to a 5 Pack? That would involve swapping in the 5" Spot rockers and swingarm. It would give you a slightly lighter frame, a lower leverage ratio and potentially better performance. Plus a more "trail-bike" like feel. There is lots of good info about this on the Turner forum, do search on it and you'll have reading material for days.

    Regarding the Turner forum and your "infamous" post, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty new in that forum, but I got the sense that your post really threw them for a loop. In a way, I think it made some of them realize that sometimes they take things a little too seriously. And I think you put some of them in their place, and that was actually a good thing for that forum. I guarantee that if you hung around that forum you'd see that there are some pretty decent and knowledgeble guys over there. And if you started posting, that you would be welcome with open arms. No joke, and I'm not trying to be e-gay or anything.

    Good luck with your bike decision and I'm sure I'll see you around.

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    Good suggestions PC.

    You state that aappling switched. He did, and is now back to the RFX.
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinSC
    Regarding the Turner forum and your "infamous" post, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty new in that forum, but I got the sense that your post really threw them for a loop. In a way, I think it made some of them realize that sometimes they take things a little too seriously.
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    Threw us for a loop? Take things too seriously? Patrick, Fred's post was the biggest joke the turner forum ever had the pleasure to join in on. Perhaps if you stick around long enough, you may see it differently.
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    Test ride a Nomad...

    ...And see what you think. I wasn't too impressed with VPP bikes until I got a few good days in on a BLT. That hooked me and the Nomad was just icing on the cake. And you can build it burly or light or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    Patrick, Fred's post was the biggest joke the turner forum ever had the pleasure to join in on. Perhaps if you stick around long enough, you may see it differently.
    I got the joke, it was pretty funny. The original post by Diesel Bikes was a little (OK, a lot) over the top, so that was funny. The way some respondents to the thread jumped all over Diesel bikes was funny (and little sad...I felt bad for DB). Freds post was great: thoroughly amusing, rambling, too the point (yes, I know those are contradictions), and the fact that is was in all caps with little to no punctuation and no paragraphs made it even better. And then all the replies to Fred's post made for some interesting and entertaining reading.

    Here's the thing, maybe I misunderstood the intentions behind the posts that made fun of DB, Fred and his bike. My perspective of it is that he was getting "ribbed" like one of the guys, just like one would make fun of a buddy who did something silly (or even if he didn't, and you make fun of him anyway ). I didn't perceive too many of the those posts as being intentionally mean-spirited. I also thought that many posts expressed or implied that they thought that some people went overboard in their criticism of DB and Fred. That's just my perspective, and we all know how difficult it is interpret the "feeling" behind what someone posts on the internet (one of the reasons that I think emoticons are a good tool for internet communication, but I digress).

    Maybe I'm wrong about that, though. Maybe some of the posters were truly making fun of Fred and thought he was an a$$#@!&. If so, then I really did mis-interpret. My bad. But if that's what you mean by, "...if you stick around long enough, you may see it differently" then I hope I don't ever see it differently. Because I'm not interested is spending time on the internet intentionally being mean to people. That's what an elementary school bully does because he's got low self esteem. At 31 years old, I'm secure enough to not have to make fun of people on the internet. If that's what some people need to do, then have at it, I'm not gonna try to stop them.

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    Patrick, what I meant by "stick around and ........" was as you get to know the various personalities found in the turner forum, you will know when a particular poster is serious, or joking, even without the use of emoticons. I don't come here with the intent to bully or make fun of people, in a demeaning way. The folks I do make fun of, on a daily basis, are my friends here. When you read my posts where I'm giving SSINGA, or Bikezilla a hard time, do you see that as me being mean? If so, that is most likely because you don't yet know my personality, and that is what I mean by "stick around....."
    As far as my posts in the original crazy fred thread, well, there was no mean spirited intention on my part. That thread took a certain life of it's own, and I thoroughly enjoyed the joviality expressed by everyone.
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    Yeah, I think we're on the same page. My first instinct seemed correct and from what you're saying, it was. Although I don't know if Fred got the joke. I tend to not interpret many (hardly any) posts on the internet as intentionally mean-spirited. Certainly not yours or anyone else I've come across. It's all good. Now we just need to keep Fred posting to keep the entertainment up.

    BTW, are you sure you wanted to reveal this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    ...I don't come here with the intent to bully or make fun of people, in a demeaning way.
    ...some people might think you've gone soft. (no emoticon used, but I'm poking good-natured fun at you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinSC
    BTW, are you sure you wanted to reveal this...

    Originally Posted by Renegade
    ...I don't come here with the intent to bully or make fun of people, in a demeaning way.



    ...some people might think you've gone soft. (no emoticon used, but I'm poking good-natured fun at you).

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    You're right; it pained me to say that... deep down I'm truely a sweet, sensitive guy.... , and I regret all the crap I've dished out...
    NOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    This Zero guy says we heat up the tar again. "You are dumb"??? Nice discussion tactic on a subject that is definitely subjective. Zero, you are certainly entitled to your opinion about the travel amount on bikes...and so is Bonz...and so am I. I can rationalize where you're coming from on your opinion, but I disagree with you. I've owned a whole bunch of full suspension bikes over the years ranging from 2" max travel all the way to over 7". The current 33lb., 6.5" travel bike I ride now allows me to do more than the shorter travel bikes in the 5" range that I've owned or ridden...and no...I'm not doing huge gaps. This is my opinion...you disagree...you are not dumb...and neither am I.
    No need for a "sorry" Riding is all about personal enjoyment, right? "Buy the one that looks cooler, Hucks to flat, blah blah blah" CZ was obviously trolling for a reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronny
    Hey Fred, Your typing is ok, but try not to type with the caps on.
    Wrong!!! Have you watched his videos? He's a shouter, and therefore can type with his Caps Lock on whenever he wants. If I only had to read Caps Lock posts from one person, it would have to be CRAZY FRED!

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    Hey Fred,

    How bout the new design from Sinister. Its supposed to be great! They will un-vale it this weekend at Pedros. Totally new, innnovative and different from what I have read. Besides, 6 months from now, Figoni will be riding something totally different anyway. If he had started with a 6.6, he would have sold that, and said that the 6 Pack was the way to go. You know him...half the fun is buying new stuff.You can always buy his 6.6 for 70 cents on the dollar in a few months! On another note, you have to ask yourself a question......how much does the bike that you ride really matter? You rode the hell out of that Specialized! I remember one time when we were riding you said that you would never ride a Specialized. Fast forward a year, and you did not feel like riding your Allutech, and you started riding that Specialized. You were riping it! Some good footage of you going big and fast on Dieselbikes on that bike.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Thanks guys, but I just don't understand how on the Santa Cruz site (bike builder) you can put together a as light as 28 to 31 pound Nomad xo kit rp23 rear shock nixon front shock just for example.Also those monster drops you speak of seem to be a thing of the past,at least so far this season.I'm having a really hard time this year.I had surgery this past Feb.and didn't get on a bike until May.I've got like 20 min. of footage for this years video,where I should have at least a couple of hours,and I haven't gone off anything bigger than a curb thus far. If I decide to step it up I've got untill The end of Sept. till the video wraps up.If not i don't really care,I just don't have the desiere to throw my self of of stupid sh#t this year.I just want to ride.Anyway If I do want to go big I've got the Alutech. I'm on a mission for the sickest trail bike. Light Nomad or 6.6 or 5.5 if Ifind vp is where its at if not 5 spot Moto light(depending on what happens to Titus with Chris gone) Ibis Mojo,it goes on and on and on,I have got the bug bad.(I've been mountain biking for 18 years)21 pound kleins in the late eights to this. What ever it is I'll wait till Oct. Interbike. Thanks again guys.
    Not hard at all really, my RFX weighs 32 pounds with a coil shock, add a air shock and its 31 pounds. you could lighten the 6 Pack up, and as stated, add the 5" Spot rear end and a air shock, lighter cranks and tires and you could have a 30 pound bike that can still take a decent sized drop.
    The medium Nomad frame with a DHX coil weighed the same as my small RFX frame, same shock. The Nomad frame it self is lighter than the RFX frame, but not by much.
    A good friend of mine as a med 6.6 with the air shock, fox Van36, I-9 wheels and this bike currently weighs 33-34 pounds. Its really all in the build Fred.

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    Whoever painted Fred's cranks and spring must have used a really heavy paint.
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    Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>

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    A thirst quencher, but not helpful to thread

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    i will have to recommend the evo!! they got some new info on their manufacturer forum..http://forums.mtbr.com/a/

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    ok, this should clarify things:
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    Crazy, if you loved the 6.6, stay with it. the Nomads are nice too but the 6.6 will probably handle a bit quicker due to the steeper geometry. The Nomad is slacker and longer, great for out west I guess. Thats why TNC uses his during cattle roundup season in the panhandle.

    My friend truely loves his 6.6 even it it ended up with about 2 more pounds than he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix
    Crazy, if you loved the 6.6, stay with it. the Nomads are nice too but the 6.6 will probably handle a bit quicker due to the steeper geometry. The Nomad is slacker and longer, great for out west I guess. Thats why TNC uses his during cattle roundup season in the panhandle.

    My friend truely loves his 6.6 even it it ended up with about 2 more pounds than he wanted.


    Great point! Should be a big factor. That out west thig, makes alot of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone)
    that's a pretty tricked out 6.6 Fred it would be interesting to compare that build on your own 6 Pack, the CCDB seems to be king of the coils right now and is claimed to be way better than a stock DHX. If there was one thing I'd try on your Pack that would be it, it could make all the difference to the ride but it's not going to help the weight as it's a heavy old shock. The 66SL is also top choice on 6 Packs for many riders too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Thanks guys, but I just don't understand how on the Santa Cruz site (bike builder) you can put together a as light as 28 to 31 pound Nomad xo kit rp23 rear shock nixon front shock just for example.Also those monster drops you speak of seem to be a thing of the past,at least so far this season.I'm having a really hard time this year.I had surgery this past Feb.and didn't get on a bike until May.I've got like 20 min. of footage for this years video,where I should have at least a couple of hours,and I haven't gone off anything bigger than a curb thus far. If I decide to step it up I've got untill The end of Sept. till the video wraps up.If not i don't really care,I just don't have the desiere to throw my self of of stupid sh#t this year.I just want to ride.Anyway If I do want to go big I've got the Alutech. I'm on a mission for the sickest trail bike. Light Nomad or 6.6 or 5.5 if Ifind vp is where its at if not 5 spot Moto light(depending on what happens to Titus with Chris gone) Ibis Mojo,it goes on and on and on,I have got the bug bad.(I've been mountain biking for 18 years)21 pound kleins in the late eights to this. What ever it is I'll wait till Oct. Interbike. Thanks again guys.
    Just built my fantastic Nomad, and the scale says 29,4 pounds (no pedals). It's a M size with DHX air, RS PIKE U-Turn, Thomson stem & post, EA 70 Monkeybar, XO-triggers with medium cage XO rear and Deore front. Avid juicy 5, 160mm rear, 185mm front. Wheels are WTB lazerdisc, dt-comp spokes and Hope bulb front and Hope pro2 rear, and King Jim Light tires. XT cassette and Conex chain, Stylo Team Cranks. Specialized Toupe sadle (cause I LOVE it!) and ODI lockon grips. Even if i changed out the rims to DT 5.1 and a softer salde, it'd still weigh less than 30 punds.

    The ride is fantastic, never tried Moment or Intense though. Suprisingly fast on the singletracks close to my house (no roots or rocks). And loved the controll i had during long decents with drops, logs, rocks and roots. Climbs good, but I don't think I would have enjoyed it so much steep uphill without the U-turn.


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    No Sleep Last Night>>>>>>>

    Nomad 6.6 Nomad 6.6 Nomad 6.6 Not To Mention Color Color Color It Was A Long Night For Sure,i Went To Bed Nomad Woke Up 6.6 I Just Got A Call (like 2 Seconds Ago)my Buddy Is Trying To Work A Deal Even Trade My 6 Pack With The Ccdb For A Nomad With Dhx Coil Or Air. The Colors Are Not My First Choice Liquid Blue Or Black And I Don't Want Dhx Coil (weight)my Buddy Said I'll Throw Away The Dhx Air In Like 2 Min. Any Thoughts? I Wanted To Go Rp23 And Red Or White..i Can Always Paint Last On The List Of Issues. I'm Taking A Hit On Giving Up The Ccdb But To Get On The Ride I Want Now Now Now To Me Priceless I'm Pretty Much A Right Fuc$en Now Kind Or Guy. As Always Much Thanks You Guys Are Great>>>>>>>>>

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    Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>

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    Crazy, if you loved the 6.6, stay with it. the Nomads are nice too but the 6.6 will probably handle a bit quicker due to the steeper geometry. The Nomad is slacker and longer, great for out west I guess. Thats why TNC uses his during cattle roundup season in the panhandle.

    My friend truely loves his 6.6 even it it ended up with about 2 more pounds than he wanted.
    Man, you ever try to attach spurs to AXO riding shoes during roundup time? I finally just wound up mounting my Shimano pedal cleats to my cowboy boots. Works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    Ok Now That The Madness Of The Heeeees Baaaack Thread Is Over(we'll For Me It Is) Thank You To All The Guys Who Contributed To Useful Infomation About What Started This Thread Nomad Vs Moment,i Was Sincere About My Concearns In And Around This Thread,and To All The Great Feed Back I Got In Return.so Here Goes,i Just Got Back From A Ride In Lynn Woods On My Boys 6.6 Marz.66sl C.c.d.b.ti.spring,ind Nine Wheels Xo Everthing 32 Lbs. And Man Oh Man I Had An Amazing Ride(thank You So Much John Fagone) And I Also Rode His 5.5 Nice But It Didn't To What The 6.6 Did And What It Did Was Give Me That Feeling Of Why We Ride In The First Place(or Why I Do Anyway) It Was Light Snappy Flickable(if That Counts)and It Just Climbed.it Made Me Just Want To Keep Riding. I Was Very Very Happy,it Was All And Only About Having Fun. I Also Failed To Mention As A Result Of The Surgey I Had Last Feb And The Late Start To My Season In Late May,i Came Out 42lbs Over Weight I Should Be At 180 To 185 I Came Out In May At 122 To 125, And Im Now Still At 112lbs,so Having Had To Never Deal With Anything Like That In The 18 Years I've Been Riding It Has Really Thrown Me For A Loop Being Over Weight Sucks .having Said That, Out Comes The Road Bike In Goes The Order For The Vp Bike........now This Is Where You Guys Come In Is There A Big Difference Between The 6.6 And The Nomad? What I Enjoyed So Much Tonight Will That Carry Over With The Nomad If That's The Way I Go? I Would Think That Intense Makes A Better Bike But I'm Really Diggin The Nomad(looks Also Play A Big Role To Me) The Ride Must Be Right First But Come We All Want Kick As$ Looking Bikes. Sorry So Long Thank You Very Much For Your Input For Those Of You Who Give Just That.i Noticed A Thread Above That Said Nomad Or 6.6 So That's Were I'll Be..... Thanks Again Guys Sorry For The Long Post.....peace....crazy Fred>>>>>>>>>>
    If you have the $$ get the 6.6. I ride a 5.5 and have ridden both the 6.6 and the Nomad. I think Intense uses a little bit more subtile axel path on their VPP bikes than Santa Cruz, so you get a smoother transition from snappy pedaling to bottomless travel. That's the feeling I get anyway. Also, Intense designs their links a bit different than SC does and I think they are a little easier on bearings (although all VPP bikes are tough on bearings so be ready for some more maintenence, especially compared to Turners), and the Intense rear triangles seem a bit stiffer and lighter. I also think the 6.6 is built a little better, more tubing manipulation so you get more stiffness and strength with less weight. Intense just takes everything the Nomad does and pushes things a little further, and then charge a premium for it, but heh, they are going the extra mile.

    Don't get me wrong, the Nomad is a nice bike, but I prefer the 6.6 (but I actually ride a 5.5, but I have it tweaked so it is a little bit like a Turner 5-pack in terms of purpose, i.e. heavier duty build, etc...). Come next season I'll be looking for a 6.6.

    Also in terms of geometry, the Nomad is a long chopper, it has a really long wheelbase and the HA is pretty slack. So it will rail straght fast lines great. But if you ride much tight twisty stuff it is not going to be as flickable and nimble as the 6.6. The 6.6 is also no slouch on the fast straight stuff. Based on your comments above I think you will prefer the 6.6 to the Nomad. Also, at your weight and riding style I don't think you want a DHX air, go DHX coil or Pushed RP23, or the ultimate a Pushed DHX coil with Ti spring = BLING!

    My $0.02

    Good luck and choose wisely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    Man, you ever try to attach spurs to AXO riding shoes during roundup time? I finally just wound up mounting my Shimano pedal cleats to my cowboy boots. Works great.

    That would be a great picture, sitting on your Mad, getting ready for a DH run wearing cowboy boots and a 10 gallon cowboy hat.

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