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    Nishiki mtb

    I found a new Nishiki mtb at Dicks Sporting Goods, its a full suspension, dual disk brakes and good shimano and sram componants on it. Its nice, I was gonna purchase it but wanted to get online to review it. Lo and behold I can not find it anywhere. I can't even find it on the Dicks website. Everything points to Nishiki being out of business. My question is, if Nishiki went out of business in 2001 where is this mtb from? Who made it? its cheap too, $699. Does anybody know? Should I get it? or is it some kind of knock-off? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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    Go to your LBS, tell them your budget and what your looking for/what kind of riding you are looking to do. I dont know what a Nishiki is but it sounds like you should run far far away from it.
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    We sell a lot of bikes that aren't on our website such as the Sortie and Mission and those are nice bikes. Our website can also be somewhat difficult to navigate to say the least. Nishiki as my understanding is now a sub group of Raleigh, because that is our manufacture. We don't have these at our store because we don't have a market for it but I am sure it's similar to the Diamondback Recoil.

    I too tried looking up this bike company and it does seem rather odd they don't have a website in the US and any traces of bike reviews for some of their better products. But I wouldn't say stay away from it like the other guy did. I can say from experience Nishiki makes the Colorado, which is a great entry level hardtail and at a much cheaper price than a LBS, so that is a stupid rule just to go to a bike shop.

    Go take some pics of it and then write down some of the specs like: shifters, derailleur and fork. Without pics or a spec list I am only speculating though.

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    Nishiki used to be huge years and years ago yet they went out of business in 2001 (supposedly anyway) yet they have a website that provides for Europe new mtb. I don't understand how Dicks got this brand.

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    Thats the thing pfox, I can't find any specs or pictures on the internet for it. I am gonna have to go back and take a picture maybe post it. I just don't have the time right now (its 45 minutes away). Thanks pfox

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    Yeah, just write down the specs list when you get a chance to stop in. Like I said I am fairly certain they got taken over as a sub group for Raleigh distributors and like Diamondback have a good price point to a least try it out and see what you want in your next bike, or offer you the ability to upgrade on the frame.

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    Yea the kid (seller) said it was last years model and would be going on sale soon for room for this years it is listed as $699 and on sale now for $499 so I figure it would be too bad. Its pretty good looking with all name brand components Shimano and sram.

    You are right they supposedly where folded after Raliegh bought them out, the problem I am finding is,.... well I'm NOT finding them anywhere on the internet its weird.

    I used to ride alot like 15 years ago and am just getting back into it and haven't been in the scene for awhile so I really don't know much about the new mtb and technology. I think I'm gonna buy it because it is fairly cheap with good componants just wondering if people had knowledge of the weirdness surrounding this particular bike.

    Do you work at Dicks pfox?

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    Yeah I do work at Dicks.

    It is odd you can't find anything but like I said before our site isn't nearly as good as it should be with displaying items we sell, etc.

    Obviously most bikes have sram and shimano on them, if they don't you shouldn't even look at them. I'd say if your new onto the scene if it has at least a SRAM x4 drivetrain and probably a tora or suntour fork you should be fine to get you going.

    You can take a look at the Diamondback Recoil too. I like Diamondback a little more than Nishiki because they tend to build their bikes a little better from a heavy duty aspect. Nishiki tubing tends to be a little thinner and sometimes isn't triple or even double butted... strictly XC use. With the Diamondback when parts break you can just put something better on it and the frame will last because they are really strong (a little heavier than most but eh its $500).

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    Thanks pfox. It does have a sram drivetrain and suntour forks, its white with like bronze rims, dual disk brakes front/back suspension. The Dicks I went to had 2 or 3 of them. Latham Farms, NY. It was pretty light too maybe thats why. I looked at the diamondback recoil as well, I just liked the look and feel of the Nishiki as well. Just from memory I think the model was something like wasiba or something. The guy at Dicks told me on the phone, because I just called and tried to discribe it said it was a Tacoma, but I can't find that name on the internet anywhere either. Thanks again pfox.

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    Funny you guys can't find their website. Took me less than 5 seconds with this site: http://www.google.com

    Don't buy a bike from a big box store. You get no service after the sale and no one in the store will really have a clue what they're talking about. Go to your LBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
    Funny you guys can't find their website. Took me less than 5 seconds with this site: http://www.google.com

    Don't buy a bike from a big box store. You get no service after the sale and no one in the store will really have a clue what they're talking about. Go to your LBS.
    Funny in the fact that I can't read german or all the other countries listed (I could maybe dabble with the spanish site). There isn't a english site you jack ass.

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    Nishiki used to rock back-in-the-day....which isn't yesterday...........
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    i saw a nishiki helmet at dicks this weekend. looked fine but then again it was just a helmet. personally id stay away from any bikes at dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mopartodd
    Nishiki used to rock back-in-the-day....which isn't yesterday...........

    This true. My 1st Mountain Bike (1990) was a Nishiki. Back when Suntour ruled the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    i saw a nishiki helmet at dicks this weekend. looked fine but then again it was just a helmet. personally id stay away from any bikes at dicks.
    Why? The Nishiki Colorado and Response Sport are both great entry level hardtails. Dick's does sell Sorties and Missions you know...

    I'm not say DB is a sick brand, but it doesn't suck ass.

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    latham ny lol. that's like 45 mintues from my house. small world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfox90
    Why? The Nishiki Colorado and Response Sport are both great entry level hardtails. Dick's does sell Sorties and Missions you know...

    I'm not say DB is a sick brand, but it doesn't suck ass.
    i didnt know. going by what i saw this weekend (though i didnt look too close) all their stuff looked pretty jank. but location probably has a ton to do with it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    i didnt know. going by what i saw this weekend (though i didnt look too close) all their stuff looked pretty jank. but location probably has a ton to do with it too.
    Yeah it has a ton to do with it, my store is small so we don't do nearly as good of business as some other really big market locations. We sell Jank stuff, but even your store has the ability to order any bike db makes like the sortie or mission. Problem is I have *******s coming in looking to spend $100 on a new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
    Funny you guys can't find their website. Took me less than 5 seconds with this site: http://www.google.com

    Don't buy a bike from a big box store. You get no service after the sale and no one in the store will really have a clue what they're talking about. Go to your LBS.

    Do you really think I didn't find that site? Do you really think I didn't check every link for every language on that site for every bike? I did and the bike I'm talking about isn't on that site. Which is why it make this all the more strange.


    Thanks for all the replies people I really apreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    latham ny lol. that's like 45 mintues from my house. small world.
    where abouts are you? I'm out Averill Park way!

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    I bought a Nishiki Colorado back ion 1995 from Dick's when it first opened here in Western Mass. I still ride it today, but I have a few upgrades on it....but the frame holds up really well and it's pretty comp to a Trek. I've beat mine to hell and back and it never gives me problems.

    here's a pic of one like mine. Although I have RockShock Judi's on it and shimano dL(?) clipless pedals along with upgraded rims and tires.

    http://www.bikejournal.com/images/XS...oradoSmall.jpg

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    Hi all

    I'm from Denmark, in Europe. Over here we have a lot of Nishikis riding around. I ride a Nishiki Colorado XC AFS30 Enduro, handbuild by nishiki. Don't know what year 'cause it was given to me but think its from '08 or so. I rode it stock at first, just to test it, before I started upgrading it. As stock it was ok for an occasional xc-ride but I would not rely on it in more extreem environments.

    Right now my setup is a Manitou Black Super SPV Evolve 90-120 fork, complete XT: hubs, STI-shifters and hydra-brakes and derailleurs all exept crank and box (I'm searching for a set at the moment) and Time ATAC Alium pedals.

    I think it's a great frame for the price. Especially if you're new to MTB. It's not a high end frame but decent and reliable enough for me to use it in a couple of 24hour xc-races this year. I ride it four to five times a week on narrow forrest single tracks when training and it does not let me down. It feels more agile and swift than you would expect of a frame in that price range.

    My plan on all my older bikes has always been to upgrade around the frame to the parts I want on my final bike and when I have those I will bye a much better frame.

    Of course it's not the same as my good old Sunn steel mbt-frame... but that's a completely different story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post
    Don't buy a bike from a big box store. You get no service after the sale and no one in the store will really have a clue what they're talking about. Go to your LBS.
    A lot like some of the comments on this site.
    If you buy a bike from Dicks they will do a free tune up on it after 30 days.
    I wish people would refrain from posting info that have no clue as to what they are talking about.

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    Sorry to jumpstart a old thread

    But I do work at DSG and "Nishiki" the brand and rights were bought buy Dick's about a year ago... So you see, Nishiki accessories, helmets, clothing, etc. DSG brand!

    The Nishiki Colorado is not at all like the Response sport my friends....
    The Nishiki is cheaper components and made in a China factory, that it matters, but cheap C'set, Plastic peadals, open adjustable BB! Steel Handlebar and X3 21 speed junk...yada yada, cheap wheels, But it looks cool and cost 350! lol

    The Response Sport is still a entrylevel bike, 24 spd shimano drivetrain, Tawian frame welded by Kenisis, Better company behind it, better fork, wheels, Alloy bars, metal pedal, lol etc
    BTW on closeout for 350! normal on sale for 450....

    But ya, Nishiki sells itself, I just start with a Diamondback.

    BTW I do stock and sell a lot of Overdrives, Sorties, Missions, one of those odd shops that are few and far between in the nation, stop by Chattanooga TN Ranked #1 Bike Dept @ DSG! I think I know what I am doing.....lol

    Anyway, sorry for the rant... to bad the place gets knocked a lot. It has potential.............................
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    Don't know anything about the model you saw at Dicks but Nishiki brings back great memories. My first non box store mountain bike was a Nishiki back in like 1995. I got my first job bussing tables at a crappy restaurant to pay for it, must have bussed 100,000 plates to get it paid off. Great bike for the day came with the old school rock shox judy's I kind of wish I would have hung onto it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missoularider View Post
    Don't know anything about the model you saw at Dicks but Nishiki brings back great memories. My first non box store mountain bike was a Nishiki back in like 1995. I got my first job bussing tables at a crappy restaurant to pay for it, must have bussed 100,000 plates to get it paid off. Great bike for the day came with the old school rock shox judy's I kind of wish I would have hung onto it.
    Yeah dude, I know, I rocked a 95 Nishiki Manitoba with a Rock Shox Mag 21! They used to be awesome bikes. Raleigh had bought the name a few years ago and just in the last year Dick's Sporting Goods bought it from Raleigh America.
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    Nishiki

    I was in Dicks yesterday for a different reason, but wandered over to the bikes, because hey, I like bikes. Lots. I was surprised to see Nishiki there, but a little digging revealed that they are a sub-brand of Raleigh with exclusive rights owned by DSG.
    Anyway, my eye was caught by the Wasatch. I like the frame. It looks neat and kind of has this mid 90's Nishiki elevated chainstay look to the rear swing arm. I think if I bought it, I would upgrade every part on it. The drive train, which has poor reviews on the website, is Sram x-3. that would go pretty quick. However, all the parts on it would happily trickle down to my kids bikes. AND it is on sale for 350 bucks, (marked down from 600) hmmm. I may have to find some dollars...
    I know, I know, it isn't an LBS, not a major brand.... But I ride mostly old "junk" and am my own wrench (wrenching is almost the best part of riding.)

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    nishiki still rocks

    check out the aliens return thread. wilbeer.i have plenty of miles on her now and the bike absolutely rocks!

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    Like some of the guys said Nishiki still exist in Europe. I ride a Nishiki SRI Carbon (2012 model) with full xtr:


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    Quote Originally Posted by GMWhite View Post
    (wrenching is almost the best part of riding.)
    I'm with this guy.

    One thing that really gets under my skin is the elitist attitude of some riders. I have 4 mountain bikes ranging from a hardtail up to a full-blown downhill bike, but I can get on ANY bicycle and have fun. That's the great part about bikes.

    The market that Dick's and other big box stores cater to is the group just getting into the sport. Not everyone is looking to spend lots of cash on a mountain bike when they don't even know if they'll like it. I worked at 2 different Dick's stores through college as a bike tech and I would MUCH rather sell to those every-day people than most that will walk into an LBS and have a list of things that they think they "need" in a bike.

    Selling to, talking to, and helping people just getting into the sport is why I kept working there all through college. I think that we could all use regular down-to-earth experiences like these to give some perspective.

    That being said, I will say that building 10-15 low-end bikes per day will get you REAL good at wrenching on bikes. If you can get those things to shift and brake well out of the box then you can pretty much get anything to work.

    Long live DSG.

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    What is the weight of the Nishiki Wasatch frame?

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    I had two Nishiki Bikes in the past when they were popular bikes. I'm really disappointed to see that they are only available at 1 place in the USA. Nishiki was popular in the 80's and 90's, they made some of the best bikes of that time. One of mine was stolen, I was very sad that happened. Then My other one which was a mountain bike I had for many years. It survived being smacked into a concrete drainage ditch dam/ wash, drainage pool outlet at fast speeds, and being launched with me on it about 15 feet or more into the air. After meeting the ground concrete and asphalt again it only had bent rim and some scratches. I rode it 2 miles back to my friends house. After replacing the rim I rode the bike for a few more years and it rode great. I'm looking for a new bike myself, and I'm just disappointed that they don't make them anymore.

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    my first bike I bought as kid was Nishiki, then moved and it was first bike I had stolen. Never got another. I always thought Nike was a play on Nishiki sound.

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    My first mtb was a five speed 20 inch wheel nishiki painted bianchi green.

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