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    Narrowed down to 3 beginner bikes...help!

    I'm a 30 year old newbie, and have narrowed my choices down to 3 bikes for my first bike.
    Opinions on each bike are welcomed, adn please tell me if you had to buy one of these bikes what would it be and why. I plan on riding mostly prepared trails in the woods with some occasional rough stuff. Wont be riding daily, but mostly on weekends or days off.

    [SIZE="4"]Bike 1

    2009 Haro Shift R1
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    Frame: Shift 6061 4.5 travel hydroformed aluminum frame with sealed bearing pivot
    Fork: SR Suntour XCR 120mm w/ lockout and preload
    Shock: X-Fusion Coil w/adjustable rebound
    Crankset & BB: Truvativ X-Flow 3.0 24/34/42
    Front Derailleur: Shimano Alivio
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Alivio
    Bar/Stem: Ritchey Riser / Kalloy Pivit stem
    Shifter: Shimano EZ Fire 8-speed intergrated lever
    Saddle/Seatpost: WTB Speed V Sport saddle / Haro Alloy post
    Hubset: Formula Pivit hubset
    Front/Rear Rims: Ritchey Girder XC
    Front/Rear Tires: Kenda Komodo 2.1
    Front/Rear Brakes: Tektro IO mechanical disc

    [SIZE="4"]Bike 2

    2009 Mongoose Otero Elite
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    Tires: 26x2.1 Kenda Komodo black skinwall
    Wheelset: Alex TD24 disc specific double wall rims with Formula Disc Alloy QR 32 hole hubs
    Bottom Bracket: FSA cartridged
    Crankset: FSA Dyna-Drive alloy 42/32/22T
    Frame: Heat treated 6000 series alloy with QR adjustable travel 2.5-4.4 (62-112mm) and replaceable hanger
    Chain: KMC Z-72
    Pedals: Mongoose alloy platform
    Handlebar: Mongoose alloy riser 31.8x25x635mm (size small) 685 (size M/L)
    Stem: Mongoose alloy riser 31.8x90mm (S/M) 110mm (L)
    Seatpost: Mongoose alloy with micro adjust clamp
    Grips/Tape: Mongoose dual density
    Levers: ProMax alloy hydraulic
    Brakes: ProMax hydraulic disc with 160mm rotors
    Headset: Ritchey Logic Zero for 1 1/8
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano Alivio M410
    Shifters: Shimano Alivio M410 Rapidfire 24 speed
    Front Derailleur: Shimano Altus M311
    Cassette: Shimano HG30 11-32T, 8 speed
    Rear Shock: SR Suntour Raidon DA adjustable air spring and rebound damping
    Fork: SR Suntour XCM HLO, 100mm travel, preload adjust and hydraulic lockout
    Saddle: WTB Speed V Sport

    [SIZE="4"]Bike 3

    2009 Giant Yukon FX
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    Size: XS/S/M/L
    Color: BLACK/ SILVER
    Frame: GIANT ALUXX
    Fork: ROCKSHOX DART2 T100
    Shock: GIANT MAESTRO
    Handlebar: ALLOY 31.8
    Handlebar stem: ALLOY
    Seatpost: ALLOY 30.9
    Pedals: ALLOY PLATFORM
    Shifters: SRAM X.4 TRIGGER
    F/R Derailleurs: SHIMANO FD-M413/ SRAM RD-X.4
    Brake: HAYES MX-4
    Cassette: SRAM PG830 11/32T
    Crankset: TRUVATIV ISO FLOW 3.0 22/32/42T
    Speed: 24S
    Hub: FORMULA DC20/ DC22
    Rim: WTB DUAL DUTY XC
    Tire: KENDA K1010 30TPI 26X2.1
    Weight: 12.61KG-S

    Also, for someone who is 5'8" what size frame would i use if offered in S,M, L ?

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    Meduim size... I'd go with the giant for the fork(rockshox)... suntour is crap.
    If it ain't broken... why the hell you fixin it!

    KONA rules!!

    If you miss the tranny... don't look down.

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    Narrowed down to 3 beginner bikes...help!

    I'd go with the Giant Yukon FX. I rode the Giant Yukon hardtail for a year before I went full suspension and loved that bike. I'm 5'8" also and went with the 18" medium frame. For the price the Giant is a good deal.

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    yukon all the way

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    That yukon has gotten really good reviews if you google it.

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    I'd go yukon or get a hardtail but the yukon is the best choice out of the three.
    Keep on Ridin

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    i'd save a bit more and get something decent. if you must have one of those bikes get the Yukon. but seriously, buy somthing that will last. buy used if necessary.

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    Can you bump yourself up to the 2008 Mongoose Otero Super? Performance has those on sale for like $650 now. It's cheaper and better specs than the '09 Elite.

    At 5'8" you'll need the Small Otero. Don't know about the other bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuse140
    Also, for someone who is 5'8" what size frame would i use if offered in S,M, L ?
    Usually M. You should be looking for 22.5" to 23" effective top tube.

    Consider
    http://www.rscycle.com/2008-Iron-Hor...19&category=55 (17") It will be very good out of the box, and with some targeted upgrades down the line, it can be brought under 30lb, and it will be an excellent trail bike that will work for you for a few years.

    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/IGN-SUP-Details.html (probably 18")

    I would think that under $1000 a good hardtail will be more fun.

    There are no real "beginner" AM bikes. There are crappier, cheaper bike, and there are better bikes. Even a total novice can easily appreciate better performance from a good frame, fork and components. The only reason to skimp on the first purchase is if you do not know if you will be riding bikes for the long term.
    Last edited by Broccoli; 02-17-2009 at 01:13 PM.

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    I second what Curmy said about the MKIII trail. It's a great bike. I bought one and upgraded the hell out of it. It's more than capable right out of the box though.

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    I just bought a 2009 Giant Yukon hardtail and I love it so far!

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    Giant or Haro

    From what I have heard, the Giant Yukon has gotten some excellent reviews both in magazines and online. I would go with the Giant. It has the Maestro suspension which I can say, from experience, pedals very nicely and is quite responsive. The Rock Shox Dart is not a great fork but its not bad. Rock Shox, since being purchased by SRAM, has put out some excellent forks.

    I have heard good things about the Haro Shift as well though I have never actually seen one in the flesh.

    In terms of sizing, the best thing you can do is go to a shop and get on the bike. Giant's tend to run a little large. Their mediums are usually 18" while most other brands mediums are 17". At 5'8" a 17" frame should fit you best with a top tube of around 23". Of course, those numbers vary depending on the bike.

    What does your budget look like? You might be able to get a higher quality bike online or used (though a used bike may not be your best choice as a first bike).

    Regardless, of your three choices, go with the Giant.

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    From my experience you outgrow beginner bikes very fast. You are better off saving up for a nicer bike or buying used. There are a lot of great bikes out there that are lightly used that you could get and use for a long time. I picked up my first bike for less than $1000 used (kona dawg) and I still love riding it today.

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    I'd buy a better used bike... It'll hold its resale better than the current new bikes you're looking at in case you decide you don't like mountain biking.

    Otherwise Giant.
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    Obvious

    Yukon for sure...
    the componentry on the other bikes is crap.
    Your suntour products will crap out after 50 miles of average riding...
    Go with the giant, you'll be nothing but pleased

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuse140
    I'm a 30 year old newbie, and have narrowed my choices down to 3 bikes for my first bike.
    I riding the Haro Flightline Comp. It is a solid hardtail and the components are not half bad. I am riding XC trail with some light to moderate single track. A few drops 1-2', some rocky stuff, but no jumps (I'm 50+ so that's a month out of work for me). Anyway a good bike to build on. I expect to upgrade fork, crank, derailleur over time but the frqme will still be cool. Weighs in around 30 lbs stock. Good luck and have fun!

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