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    "my tire profile"

    I'm anxiously awaiting my new custom wheelset. I'd like a little guidance in my tire decision .
    My new rims are Mavic819's so I'm looking for a UST tire.

    I'm In New England and ride the typical roots/rocks along with one area that's got a whole bunch of pine needle debris.

    in the spectrum of rolling resistance<------>grip i'd like be somewhere in the middle

    I am currently rolling WTB wierwolves 2.1's I have no idea if they are "true" 2.1's but I'd like something a smidge bigger (2.2?). Certainly not smaller.

    Hutch spiders have turned up quite a bit in MTBR searches as has the Kenda Blue groove UST tires... However, side-wall tearing seems to be a reoccurring them with the spiders as well.

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    High Rollers

    Maxis high rollers 2.35 single ply are a good allround tyre.
    Great cornering and low rolling resistance.
    You would have to check to use them as tubeless?

    There is a big choice and would be great to use a range of different tyres to find the best for local conditions.

    Good riding

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    For your local terrain, I highly suggest some Continental Gravity UST 2.3 tires, or some Schwalbe Fat Albert UST 2.35s.

    The Continental tires run a little smaller than other tires, so a 2.30 is more like a 2.20. The Gravity's roll extremely fast, and have excellent grip on roots (damp or dry), loamy singletrack, dry dirt, and rocks. They don't lose traction suddenly when you lean them over, and wear extremely well.
    The Scwalbe tires roll a little slower than the Contis, but have excellent traction in wetter conditions. They also wear very well, although from what I've seen, slightly faster than the Continentals.
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    Eventually...

    ...you will try some variety of Kenda Nevegal and you will like them.

    But feel free to try other tires first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombardier
    For your local terrain, I highly suggest some Continental Gravity UST 2.3 tires, or some Schwalbe Fat Albert UST 2.35s.

    The Continental tires run a little smaller than other tires, so a 2.30 is more like a 2.20. The Gravity's roll extremely fast, and have excellent grip on roots (damp or dry), loamy singletrack, dry dirt, and rocks. They don't lose traction suddenly when you lean them over, and wear extremely well.
    The Scwalbe tires roll a little slower than the Contis, but have excellent traction in wetter conditions. They also wear very well, although from what I've seen, slightly faster than the Continentals.

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    Diesals, anyone use these?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bombardier
    For your local terrain, I highly suggest some Continental Gravity UST 2.3 tires, or some Schwalbe Fat Albert UST 2.35s.

    The Continental tires run a little smaller than other tires, so a 2.30 is more like a 2.20. The Gravity's roll extremely fast, and have excellent grip on roots (damp or dry), loamy singletrack, dry dirt, and rocks. They don't lose traction suddenly when you lean them over, and wear extremely well.
    The Scwalbe tires roll a little slower than the Contis, but have excellent traction in wetter conditions. They also wear very well, although from what I've seen, slightly faster than the Continentals.
    Have you ever used the Diesal (2.5 version of the Gravity) I just pick up a couple from Performance for $19.99 great price however I have never ran anything this big, Anyone use these

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombardier
    For your local terrain, I highly suggest some Continental Gravity UST 2.3 tires, or some Schwalbe Fat Albert UST 2.35s.

    The Continental tires run a little smaller than other tires, so a 2.30 is more like a 2.20. The Gravity's roll extremely fast, and have excellent grip on roots (damp or dry), loamy singletrack, dry dirt, and rocks. They don't lose traction suddenly when you lean them over, and wear extremely well.
    The Scwalbe tires roll a little slower than the Contis, but have excellent traction in wetter conditions. They also wear very well, although from what I've seen, slightly faster than the Continentals.

    Conti's look very interesting -- not the cheapest though...

    thanks everyone, great advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin Cycle
    Have you ever used the Diesal (2.5 version of the Gravity) I just pick up a couple from Performance for $19.99 great price however I have never ran anything this big, Anyone use these
    Yeah, I tested some in Germany..... The USTs have excellent floatation and grip for rocky & dry conditions like Moab. Normally, I'd be leery of running a 2.5 tire on an AM bike, but since Continentals run small anyways, and the Vapor/Gravity/Diesel line roll so quickly, I'd not hesitate to throw them on my bike. I'm running Gravitys right now, but I'm getting the Diesels ASAP.
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    Good job! Ignitor's

    I run these tires (2.35) front and back on my Trek Liquid.

    Works great in muddy and dry conditions!

    Best tires ever, no lie.

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    My first Ist choice Schwalbe Nobbi Nic r/Big Betty f
    For yr conditions maybe NNs
    http://schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/off_road

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    Yes, colorado and new england are not same. However I've had great success post-padding only via this link:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...41705#poststop

    Oh, and my XC buddy that complained about his 2.1" tires washing went to a WTB mutano raptor in 2.4 (really a 2.2?) in front.
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    I've used the weirwolf 2.5 on 819s, sealed with Stan's no problems. so if you like the weirwolf, you could try the 2.3 or 2.5 for a little more width than the 2.1.

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    Gravity=Garbage

    Dude save yourself from the swill. I just switched my so called 2.3 gravity to a 2.3 weirwolf. The gravity was swiller for northern az trails. What a world of difference and no comparison when switching to the weirwolf. My friend also ditched the conty diesels off of his dh bike for some wtb timberwolves. I am sure conty is great for some, but really they are not a great tire producer compared to maxxis or wtb. You could run a geax 2.25 sedona that is way wider than a gravity. I am with the stans and wtb weirwolf 2.3 or 2.5 with kevlar bead, then you will truly be mad mobbing east coast style.

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    Idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by 5spotme
    Dude save yourself from the swill. I just switched my so called 2.3 gravity to a 2.3 weirwolf. The gravity was swiller for northern az trails. What a world of difference and no comparison when switching to the weirwolf.
    Jwind already said he's running Weirwolves..... And that he rides in New England.
    That's a pretty big difference from northern Arizona.
    New England = lots of roots, rocks, damp conditions & tacky trails.
    N. Arizona = lots of rocks, sand, rocks, gravel, rocks, sand, and either hardpack or loose trails.

    Continental tires have SERIOUS grip on roots & moist singletrack. I'm not saying they're better than say, the Nevegal, but they're right up there, in the right conditions.
    I will admit, my Gravity's lose their grip here on some of the trails in Colorado, especially in the loose, dry stuff. But once the trails turn rocky or firm up, they're golden.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5spotme
    I am sure conty is great for some, but really they are not a great tire producer compared to maxxis or wtb.
    You mean Continental doesn't have as big of a marketing budget as Maxxis or WTB in the States.
    Continental, Schwalbe, & Nokian are VERY popular tires in Europe (where they are manufactured), and a majority of MTB'ers I've seen while living in Germany run them there.
    Maxxis, Kenda, WTB, Panaracer, etc, all have a presence in Europe as well, but they aren't as prevalent as here in the States. That doesn't make them bad tires.

    I've abused my Continental tires in some pretty horrible ways, and they've never been ruined.... Even after dragging their sidewalls through some nasty shale on several occasions. I had some Kenda Short-Tracker's and they suffered badly, to the point of being unrideable, in the same conditions.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5spotme
    You could run a geax 2.25 sedona that is way wider than a gravity. I am with the stans and wtb weirwolf 2.3 or 2.5 with kevlar bead, then you will truly be mad mobbing east coast style.
    Continental tires are already known for running small, but my 2.3 Gravity's measured up to be 2.21.... That's not a heck of a lot smaller than the Geax Sedona you recommended.....
    Anyways, Jwind mentioned that he's going to run USTs.
    The beauty in those is that when he needs a wider footprint, all he's got to do is drop a couple of PSI's, and now he doesn't need a huge tire or worry about pinch-flatting. So he can run a smaller tire for faster rolling, without sacrificing traction, and increasing it if needs be.
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    Roots rock damp thats england

    Roots, rock,damp, thats England and here we love conti vertical pro specially the ust.

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