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    NS Soda - pics, reviews, discuss

    I built up a NS Soda in July. Great bike. It has several geometry/travel settings; check it out!

    Long travel:


    Short travel, long chainstay:


    Short travel, short chainstay:
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    Nice build. What's the spec on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjaboym5 View Post
    Nice build. What's the spec on it?
    thanks.

    its:
    2011 fox float (set to 180 in first pic, 160 in second 2 pics)
    RS Monarch Plus shock
    RS Reverb
    Avid Elixir CR
    Hope Pro 2 Evo rear hub with Stans Flow
    DT 340 front with DT EX500
    Minion F, High roller R
    Shimano SLX setup 1x9 with 11-34t xt cassette
    x0 shifter
    x9 med cage der
    Gamut chainguide with gravity bash
    Chromag OSX (funn fatboy pictured in first pics)
    Straitline 35m stem
    Diety compound pedals
    WTB silverado seat

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    Love the Soda, wish it was more available here. Looks sharp, enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride the biscuit View Post
    I built up a NS Soda in July. Great bike. It has several geometry/travel settings; check it out!
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    Long travel:


    Short travel, long chainstay:




    Short travel, short chainstay:
    Very nice
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    i like that! it's like a covert/blindside baby! very nice smart build, op!

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    Sweet build and love the diversity it offers , more companies need to implement that.

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    That is my dream bike! hopefully I can pick one up next year... Also nice build!
    Buy a f-ing bike maybe you wouldn't be fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by aedubber View Post
    Sweet build and love the diversity it offers
    thanks, all, for the compliments! yeah, the adjustable settings was what really sold me on it; i think they came up with elegant, simple solutions. the adjustments completely change the ride characteristics, and it feels surprisingly dialed in each setting.

    i'll do a review someday but I'm happy to field any questions...I know when I bought it it was a bit of a leap of faith since there wasnt much rider feedback.

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    Great bike:thumbup:

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    Sick man! Love to see a dirty bike! Glad to see it's being put to proper use and just not a show toy.

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    Man! I've been wanting one of those since they came out. I guess I'm going to have to keep saving my pennies... Sick bike!

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    If only they could take a front derailleur...
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    Quote Originally Posted by James_spec View Post
    Sick man! Love to see a dirty bike! Glad to see it's being put to proper use and just not a show toy.
    Ha, the third pic was taken after a fairly intensive cleaning effort...

    Dwyooaj, I am pretty sure there is some kind of front dear that can be mounted...I read it somewhere that there was a way. Maybe one that mounts to iscg or something unusual

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    Originally Posted by dwyooaj
    If only they could take a front derailleur...
    What about an E-type front derailleur?

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    And you can always zip tie some cable guides on the seat tube.

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    OP, Would you mind giving us a review when you have time?

    I have not purchased one myself due to the fact that there is so little user feedback available on these bikes.

    NS has a bunch of reviews posted on their site, but they are all from Polish bike sites.

    I think the least NS could have done was to provide a bike to MTBR, Pinkbike or NSMB or one of the magazines so we could see what these bikes are about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride the biscuit View Post
    I built up a NS Soda in July. Great bike. It has several geometry/travel settings; check it out!

    Long travel:


    Short travel, long chainstay:


    Short travel, short chainstay:
    What specific components do you change or switch? I kind of see the difference in the chainstay (i think... or maybe it's the camera angle) - but i can't seem to tell which parts on the stays or the linkages changed. care to elaborate on that point?

    Always thought the Soda was a great looking bike. Wish they had that over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    What specific components do you change or switch?
    Sure, the long travel/short travel is adjusted via the rearward shock mount...there are two different mounts on the rocker link (you can see the mounts as they are covered by a chip on each side). the lower mount is short travel and the upper mount is LT.

    there are also two mount ports for the rear axle. there is a chip that you flip forward or backward...a nice toutch NS thought of was adding set screws to hold these chips in place while you thread the axle in. There are also two sets of chips: 1 for 10mm bolt on or QR axle and 1 for the 12mm maxle that comes with the frame. you must also move the der hanger and brake mount accordingly

    Ovbiously, it is key to adjust fork travel in step with the rear travel. for me, this is the thing that takes about 30 mins or so since the adjustments on my fork are internal. all the stuff that has to do with the frame is very quick

    Things I love about this are that the ease of these adjustments really implies how well thought out the design is...simple. And of course, the fact that the bike rides so differently and so well in each setting is nothing short of a gamechanger

    Ok, im just gonna type out a full-ish review...

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    Looking forward to your review... I can't buy one, sadly, but i love geeking out on bike tech.

    The parts with the red arrows are the ones with the adjustable mounts & chips right? Just saw them now. HAHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nandus View Post
    OP, Would you mind giving us a review when you have time?
    Ok, this gonna be long and I'll probably come back to edit or just add stuff in other posts. I've ridden it extensively in each setting enough to offer up some feedback, but obvioiusly riding it since July doesnt count as long term.

    First off, it really shouldnt be too hard to get yourself one of these in the USA or Canada. I ordered mine from a shop for a pretty good deal off msrp with HS installed and shipped. Now, I think you can even get a much better deal on any remaining stock from the first year.

    Note: I think there may be a little sizing change for this next year, but I dont know more than that.

    the build

    when i pulled it out of the box, my first reactions were that it looks sexy and even a little beefer than I had guessed based on pictures. the downtube especially is burly.

    Everyone doing detailed reviews of bikes seems to have a minor in weld inspection as they wax on about how amazing the build quality is. Well, sorry, I'm not a welder. I mean, we're talking about high-end bikes here, this shouldnt be a concern in my opinion.

    For me it was a straight forward swap of all my parts. Obviously, with these Sodas its pretty key to chose your build wisely in terms of weight and strength if you want to max out climbing comfort.

    Building up was a snap without so much as a single hicup. This being the first time I had built a bike from frame up, I thought the internal cable routing might be tricky, but it was cake. I used a paperclip to hook the cable for the downtube exit point. I may have cut the rear der cable (the only one I chose to go internal with) a tiny bit short, but its going to take a really bad/hard bar wrap to do any damage.

    This is where the cool design comes in. They leave cable mounts in good spots as well as give you the internal option, which was perfect for my brake and reverb cables. Also, there is a sheath to protect your steerer as well as a little rubber piece providing protection where the cable enters the headtube.

    There is also optional clear plastic tubes to protect your cables where they exit the downtube and enter the chainstays. I chose to use mine. It is big enough to where its pinned in pretty tight between the big lower pivot and my chainguide. However, I have no problem with this as it aint causin no harm or drag on pivot movement...rather, it looks very neatly tucked away.

    I will also mention that the pivots were silky smooth (as they should be) out of the box and everything was nice and tight.

    Now, I did make a mistake when building it up....i was so excited I neglected to properly grease the rear axle mount chips. This made them a beach to pop out the first time I wanted to try that adjustment (pb blaster, time, and staying with it worked). After greasing them like I should have, they are perftect...fit nice and snug in their spots like you'd want but slide out with a little push.

    Another thing I highly suggest is to lightly grease the countersunk part of the frame for the screws that hold the der hanger in as well as the portion of the head that contacts that surface AND put locktite on the threads. These screws thread into the hanger, not the frame. In fact, despite all the adjustments and features, nothing screws into the frame aside from the bottom bracket: well played, NS, well played.

    The paint/decals are not as durable as a powdercoat would be. I've scraped it in a few spots; whatever.

    a word about sizing and fit

    I am just under 5'11", and I bought the large, running a 35mm stem. The fit feels so nice. Its still small enough to where I have killer standover, and can be thrown around and maneuvered easily. But its also long enough to add stability and the most important thing to me for sizing: I get perfect leg extension for long seated climbs. I need to be able to extend my leg to just short of full extension, and I'm not sure I could do so with a small.

    Very comfortable bike and my body position feels great in terms of properly weighting the front wheel around corners.

    THE RIDE

    I'm going to make some general comments which will inevitably be a little redundant when I get specific about each of the settings...because this practically 3 different bikes.

    suspension design

    I love how NS calls out the bike industry's load of BS about how each bike company claims to offer the best, most advanced suspension platform on the market....yeeeeeeaaaaah. They use what they call a simple design which rotates on oversized reliable and durable pivots.

    This bike uses a faux-bar suspension platform which features a pivot above the BB, 2 on a rocker link that controls curve rate, and one the seatstay. Similar to another prolific design called the four-bar where the most rearward pivot is on the chainstay. Four bar proponents claim this helps to better isolate braking forces from suspension activity. Dual link designs (ie: dw link) are said to be the best at isolating braking forces.

    I have ridden true four bars, spechy's design, as wells as owned several dual link (ie: dw link) bikes, and I just have not noticed any unwanted interplay between braking and rear suspension activity on the Soda.

    However, and I am not sure if this is a generally accepted truth or just my own hunch, a lot of how we perceive a bike's stiffness comes from the chainstay since that sees most of the lateral force between the BB and the rear axle. My logic, then, is that the bike can be stiffer if the pivots are on the seatstays versus the chainstay since those smaller pivots reduce rigidity wherever they are on a frame.

    Since I mention stiffness, I'll finish that thought in this section: this bike is STIIIIIIIIIF!!! My previous bike was a banshee rune which is renown for stiffness, and this is stiffer than that.

    You can feel it on trail and doing the classic stiffness test of stepping/pushing inward on the crank while standing next to the bike. Most bikes will flex when you do that but the movement i see doing it on the Soda is from the tires squishing and wheels flexing slightly. If you look at the BB pivots and chainstay you can see why; its just burly looking.

    climbing

    This bike climbs very efficiently. And the general maneuverability of the geometry make it great for standing and mashing as well as getting up and over very techy moves and short punchy climbs. Actually it kindof inspires me to go at it on techy, punchy climbs.

    The spandex crowd will obviously blast by every time, but I'm elevating at a very respectable all mountain clip...definitely gets the job done with juice to spare for the way down.

    Ive even been pleasantly surprised on how well it makes its way up long seated grinders. I just settle into a relaxed cadence where I can lay down a nice smooth stroke and get no pedal bob.

    Its important to note that I have a 32t chainring with my largest rear cog with 34 teeth. Pretty much all good suspension designs climb better the harder you push them, so it helps the efficiency of the bike to not have a granny ring or some other easier gear combo. Granny rings tend to also lead to choppier pedal strokes and a sudden spike in torque which causes bob and makes the rear wheel break free, losing traction.

    The suspension does compress a bit under heavy chain tension when really yamming (like when powering up an extremely steep switchback). I'm not really bothered by this since its a consistent squish, not a bob, and the bike remains balanced and traction is is still rock solid when this does occur.

    I have not wanted for it at all, but I imagine that if the bike had been spec'd instead with the RS monarch RT3 with the 3 compression settings versus the standard version, I would likely use high compression for some climbs (it would likely help the situation noted above).

    I will always believe that the dual link bikes are the best climbers as the harder you pedal, the rear wheel gets sucked into the ground; however, the real factor for climbing a Soda is "how much will your build weigh?"

    Havent weighed it but I think its about 33.5, which is very acceptable for big rides with long climbs.

    not climbing

    fun, fun, fun. this bike is more about having fun than anything else. If you buy this as your main ride you are making a very conscious choice that your primary objective is to get shreaddy and have a blast doing it.

    Going back to the dual link suspension designs comparison being great for pedaling...well, I think it also probably makes great sense for DH style riding due to the more rearward axle path, which is great for square edge hits.

    While I think dual link bikes go a little more effortlessly over big square edge hits, I have found they do not feel nearly as good for freeride maneuvers. I think they require a ton of tuning and even then you run into harsh botomouts and confidence robbing, sometimes wallowy takeoffs and landings.

    This is where the Sodas wheelhouse is and where its suspension design shines. It is incredibly active over small stuff, has the perfect platform for boosting off lips of jumps and drops, and always saves plenty of reserves for the biggest of hits.

    The stroke feels so controlled and consistent all the way through its travel, which feels great landing a big hit. Between that confidence inspiring feel, the aggressive geo, and the solid burly frame, you feel like you can huck any drop to flat with impunity. In just these few months, the freeride side of my game has improved nicely.

    Also noteworthy is the Soda is spec'd with a great air shock, the RS monarch. The beauty of this shock is that it performs fantastic on this frame with no tuning required beyond what RS does at the factory. I'm not talking about expensive after market custom tunes here, but basic adjustments. The only things you can do to this shock are change the amount of air in the can and set rebound...that's it! and it works!

    As a tinker by nature, if the shock didnt do exactly what I wanted it to, I would have already felt the need to replace it with something that did. This is another nod to the brilliance of NS's simple suspension design since it performs great when paired with the simplest, no fuss, no muss high performance air shock on the market.

    geometry and adjustments

    Ok, I'm going to leave it at that for now. The last part I'll come back and fill in someday is the specifics of the different settings. I saved the best for last...
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    I been really enjoying mine, I have it set up on the short travel long chain stay. It climbs better then my covert, and it bombs the down/tech. Mine is in the 30pound range, so far I have enjoyed this bike more so then any other. I bought this bike cause if I ever leave Florida Hell I have options. It is worth it for the adjustability alone and you described the ride very well.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    [QUOTE=ride the biscuit;9824888]Ok, this gonna be long and I'll probably come back to edit or just add stuff in other posts. I've ridden it extensively in each setting enough to offer up some feedback, but obvioiusly riding it since July doesnt count as long term.

    Thanks for the review. I am really considering one of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu View Post
    I been really enjoying mine, I have it set up on the short travel long chain stay. It climbs better then my covert, and it bombs the down/tech. Mine is in the 30pound range, so far I have enjoyed this bike more so then any other. I bought this bike cause if I ever leave Florida Hell I have options. It is worth it for the adjustability alone and you described the ride very well.
    thanks!! and please feel free to post up pics and thoughts here about your soda! a 30 lb soda sounds killer. just wait till you try the short chainstay mode...

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    I will give you a run down of my parts:

    Meduim frame
    fox 36 float 160mm
    monarch plus
    deity handle bar/stem
    thomson seat post/the saddle
    saint cranks/lg chain guide
    NS arial pedals
    E.13 wheelset <--super light weight all mountain killer engagement
    hans dampf tubless
    x0 rear deraillour
    xtr cassette
    avid brakes
    that is pretty much it, really like mine
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Damn I want one

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    My beast!
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu View Post
    My beast!
    that is sick!! especially how you were able to get to such a nice weight even with the saint cranks

    I wanted to rename the thread to call it "NS Soda pics, reviews, discussion" thread but maybe mods have to do that

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    It is such a great bike, I really wanted to like the covert but I was not fully satisfied with it. The soda I think should be the blue print for what frames need to be. You can create an am/downhill/freeride bike super versatile. I used to ride clipped in also and went back to platforms and have really been having fun I makes me want to ride more often because it is fun. Pretty stocked on the bike I think you will start seeing more and more of them.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Dh Build?

    This bike has really caught my attention.

    Does anyone out there have this rig build up for full on DH style? I mostly ride at Highland mtb park in NH and do a good mix of machine built jump trails and natural DH tracks. How does the Soda handle the chunky DH stuff? I think I would build it up with a dual crown, and DH wheels/ tires.

    This rig looks great, and seems affordable.
    Thanks

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    I can't imagine this bike not being able to handle anything DH related unless extremely rough but I would think it would not have any issues in that either, very stout frame. If you put a serious wheel set and dual crown it would be a mean little DH bike IMO.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsinore View Post
    How does the Soda handle the chunky DH stuff?
    I can't really say how it would ride with a dual crown, but he soda kills chunk in long travel mode. Even with the air can its so active and plush despite you actually put a little more air into the shock for use in long travel due to change in leverage rate. I've seen bikes called "mini dh"; I would call it that.

    I think it would be a great dh/freeride bike with a dual crown. And the good thing is you could set it up to where the measurements keep the intended geo intact with head angle and balanced feel. Only thing is the chainstays are a lot shorter than I think most dh bikes, so not exactly a dh race bike. Depends on the goal of the build.

    The bike was designed for resort riding though. I think a big single crown like 66 or totem paired with coil and the right wheels would be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride the biscuit View Post
    I can't really say how it would ride with a dual crown, but he soda kills chunk in long travel mode. Even with the air can its so active and plush despite you actually put a little more air into the shock for use in long travel due to change in leverage rate. I've seen bikes called "mini dh"; I would call it that.

    I think it would be a great dh/freeride bike with a dual crown. And the good thing is you could set it up to where the measurements keep the intended geo intact with head angle and balanced feel. Only thing is the chainstays are a lot shorter than I think most dh bikes, so not exactly a dh race bike. Depends on the goal of the build.

    The bike was designed for resort riding though. I think a big single crown like 66 or totem paired with coil and the right wheels would be perfect.
    Thanks for the thoughts. Can you adjust the chainstays while staying in the longer travel mode? ie- long travel short stays? The numbers on this rig look great, its like a lower, more versatile Blindside.

    Also, does anyone have info on the 2013 Soda? There does not seem to be any large 2012's in the states and I am guessing I will have to wait until next years frames are out to get my hands on one. BTI, the US distributor does not have any large frames at least...

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsinore View Post
    Can you adjust the chainstays while staying in the longer travel mode? ie- long travel short stays?
    NS says no, although I'm not sure why.

    Makes me wonder if its something benign like they didnt like the way it handled in that setting or something like a durability or functionality issue.

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    Setting short CS in long travel mode might potentially / on paper result with the tyre hitting the seattube before the shock bottoms out. In reality it will happen only with big fat 2.5" tyres. Tyres up to 2.3-2.35" wont be affected so you could try & review the missing 4th setup If you have any doubts about tyre size vs seattube just check the clearance with no air in the shock first.

    small change is geo for next year model:
    2012 Soda seat tube: M: 393mm (15.5"), L: 417mm (16.5")
    2013 Soda seat tube: M: 393mm (15.5"), L: 432mm (17")

    2013 Soda will be available in three colours (silver-blue now gloss instead of matt, chrome-fluo gloss instead of silver-lime matt, black pearl gloss)

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    I just bought a 180mm fork for mine which I will swap out with my 160mm I am looking forward to setting it up more for free ride I hope I like it with the 180.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu View Post
    I just bought a 180mm fork for mine which I will swap out with my 160mm I am looking forwd to setting it up more for free ride I hope I like it with the 180.
    Are able to keep your 160 m fork too or will you have to sell it? Having a light 160 m fork and a big 180 to swap back and forth would be ideal. Really the totem would be ideal if it wasnt too heavy for trail riding

    I've had mine in 160m/ short cs mode for a while now and im loving it. It is so nice for tight tech east coast style trails and riding jumps drops and skinnies

    I've noticed that in short cs mode I can run more sag than I would normally would for trail riding because the platform is always right where you want it even with the shock set up plusher

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    Bike looks great

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    I just put the 180 on the Soda, I think the bike was built for that fork! Has anyone tried the rp23 on the bike for just trail riding? I like the monarch but would like to have a lighter shock for trail use and the coil for larger stuff.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Follow up - Feedback on Custy Service

    I wanted to add a little more to this thread since I have had an experience dealing with NS customer service.

    Sorry, I just cant describe this without being long-winded as usual...

    Several rides after I bought the frame I noticed a tiny amount of play somewhere on the bike; however, I very quickly isolated it to the rearward shock mount hardware. I further boiled it down to the interface between the bolt and the pin. By pin, I mean the part between your bolt and the DU bushing inside the shock eyelet....basically the inner dia of the pin was just slightly too big for the bolt.

    As soon as I knew what it was, I basically didnt really care because I figured it couldnt do any harm.

    Fast forward a few months, and I decided to see if I could get this pesky issue solved. I to contacted NS, interested to see how things would go.

    Well, I got what I consider an incredible level of customer service...from ANY company, let alone one half way around the world where English is not the native language.

    First off, they were incredibly responsive and obviously were a lot more concerned about this little annoyance than I was. I never did the math, but I would always get such a fast email response from them I'd think, "wait, what time is it in Poland right now?".

    Second, they made it really easy on me. They didnt require me to take pictures or anything, but rather established a level of mutual understanding through some email exchanges.

    Third, the solution, and I found this really surprising: they implemented a 2 part solution. They 1) had a quick replacement part made at a machine shop, which they sent as soon as it was available so that they could get me sorted as quickly as possible then 2) ran a batch of CNC detailed black permanent replacements made close to them which I got about a month after the first replacement.

    Well, me being lazy, the first replacement worked just fine so the second is just sitting in my garage, but I'm sure it will be fine just putting the pin through it off the bike.

    Thanks NS

    PS: the NS guys were not aware I was the author of this thread at the time of my service request, but I did mention it to them after the problem was resolved. They were really cool about it, thanking me for my feedback and asking a few of my thoughts, etc...

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    One other comment from my initial review

    One follow-up from my initial review regarding the use of the clear plastic sheath I used to protect my shifter cables. I initially wrote:

    There is also optional clear plastic tubes to protect your cables where they exit the downtube and enter the chainstays. I chose to use mine. It is big enough to where its pinned in pretty tight between the big lower pivot and my chainguide. However, I have no problem with this as it aint causin no harm or drag on pivot movement...rather, it looks very neatly tucked away.

    Well, in Nov I had to replace my shifter cable due to driving the bike into a cable cord while mounted on my rack, and I did notice some rubbing evident where I had described it being wedged in between the chainguide plate and the lower pivot. Nothing bad, just starting to rub the anno a bit.

    So I strung it back up without the clear coating sheath, and its all good. There is now wiggle room so I'm not worried about excessive wear. I'm also not worried about the cable itself...it really isnt very exposed in the first place. Especially when you compare to some bikes that route cables all the way down the underside of the downtube and around the bottom bracket

    I'm pretty sure thats the only other relevant info I have. Other than that, I've had the bike in short travel / short chain stay since the time of the initial review and it is the bees knees in this setting.

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    This is intersting I had the same issue but I guess I usually try to figure out issues on my own before I call companies. I put two tiny washers on each side of the bolts on the shock which solved the play issue for me. Have not touched it since. I was wondering if I was the only one with the issue and since I hate play on my bike I had to figure it out. I also had the issue with the 12mm axel which I also fixed very easily. All in all great bike so far.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badpichu View Post
    This is intersting I had the same issue but I guess I usually try to figure out issues on my own before I call companies. I put two tiny washers on each side of the bolts on the shock which solved the play issue for me. Have not touched it since. I was wondering if I was the only one with the issue and since I hate play on my bike I had to figure it out. I also had the issue with the 12mm axel which I also fixed very easily. All in all great bike so far.
    I hate play too but as soon as I realized what it was I didn't care much. that's why I like the security of beefy pivots..they seem so durable. you can grab the new hardware free from NS I'd you ever felt like emailing them. I know they have fixed the issue for all current and future customers and have replacements for those that need it

    With the 12 m axle are you referring to thick paint in the axle mount? I had that but it was a non-issue

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    Yea I had the thick paint issue but I used a bit of sand paper and good to go.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Hey has anyone built up an NS soda with a standard QR hub? Or could anyone verify whether or not that would work? I want a Soda frame, but I don't want to have to get a new rear hub laced in.

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    buggyr, you're good to go as long as its for a 135 x 10, which it almost certainly is.

    what is your current bike and what is the hub? a lot of hubs can be converted/upgraded pretty easy, in which case you wouldnt have to but it is worth it performance wise

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    Its a 2009 diamondback scapegoat (standard 9mm qr) with an SLX hub. I was just asking because I have only seen them with through axles, and have seen no definitive answer (says 10mm "bolt type" on the NS website which led me to think it might not work with the standard 9mm qr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggyr333 View Post
    Its a 2009 diamondback scapegoat (standard 9mm qr) with an SLX hub. I was just asking because I have only seen them with through axles, and have seen no definitive answer (says 10mm "bolt type" on the NS website which led me to think it might not work with the standard 9mm qr.
    all rear hubs are 10mm qr. 9mm qr is only a fork thing. Oh and it's fairly easy to convert most shimano hubs to bolt on (it's worth it!) with about $10 in parts. Makes a HUGE difference in stiffness. You just need a wheels manufacturing 174mm solid 10x1mm Wheels Manufacturing AXLE-06

    that is to say, you can run your standard hub, but it would be worth your time to convert your hub to a bolt on configuration.

    Apologies for the derail; but I hopefully that helps!

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    Soda flying!

    My NS Soda build-santos_sm.jpg
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    That was next on my list. Toss up between the Rune and the Soda. I picked up a Rune. Sweet bike man!!!
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    Sorry to bring up an old thread, but how is the bunnyhop ability of this bike?
    I am looking at getting a nice playful full suspension bike but would like to still be able to hop over logs, onto ledges and enjoy a bit of street riding.
    I ride an Evil Faction hardtail (more a dirt jump style bike) at the moment which I love, and tend to think the Soda may be too much bike?

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