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    My bike/parts do not suck!

    I've noticed something about this site -- according to a good number of posters on this board, every product out there seems to suck.

    Carbon frames suck. Such and such forks suck (Rock Shox, Fox, name it -- it sucks). These brakes suck, those brakes suck. Avid break shoes suck. This adjustable seat posts suck, that one sucks.

    There is a horror story about EVERYTHING. And I guess I'm not saying that they're all without validity, but when you get enough people together who spend a lot of time and money on bikes, there are going to be problems here and there.

    But I think I'd never buy ANYTHING if I listened to every horror story about every part/bike ever reviewed/critiqued/commented on on this site. It can't possibly all suck.

    So in an effort to spin some positivity, I'm going to list everything about my bike that does not suck. In fact, overall, it's a high-end, quality bike with superior performance, and I am thrilled with the purchase. There have been no issues beyond normal wear and tear.

    This is not an effort to promote and bike or brand. It's possible that any combination of bikes and brands will probably also not suck.

    I ride 4-6 times a week in Colorado. I go out for 1-2 hours at a time. I ride trails that are slightly more technical than most. We have lots of rocks and loose gravel. I will do 2-3 foot drops, but I do not huck off cliffs. I have ridden this bike on the black and the easier double black trails at Keystone Bike Park.

    Bike: 2010 Specialized Enduro Comp, all stock except I added XT cranks and shifters. I just prefer the push-pull action of Shimano over the push-push action of SRAM. I also added a reverb seat post. The bike does not suck. It rules.

    The stem is great.

    The handlebars are great -- plus I like the white color, which is sold as OE only.

    The Lyrik forks are great.

    The avid elixer breaks are great. No squeaky noise, except when wet.

    XT cranks have been great.

    XT pedals -- very satisfied.

    XT rear derailleur -- awesome.

    XT shifters --- awesome

    Stock wheelset -- great for me.

    Rear shock (modified Fox float for enduro) -- super.

    Eskar Control Tires -- also great.

    Quick release seat post clamp -- holds the seat where I need it.

    Saddle -- plenty comfy.

    Chain guide -- I like it. Thumbs up.

    Reverb -- I haven't had it long, but so far, so good.

    This is not to say there aren't better parts out there -- something lighter, maybe a little more functional. This is not to say that I never have to perform routine maintenance, but so far this has been an awesome, trouble-free bike. (And it's at the bottom of the Enduro product line). I would recommend to anybody.

    If you, too, have a bike that does not suck, please feel free to comment below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The R View Post
    The avid elixer breaks are great. No squeaky noise, except when wet.
    I hate Avid brakes.

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    That's not true...see those threads where ppl post their bikes and you'll see a lot of love stories...

    Edit: I absolutely love my BLTc! Is it perfect, far from it. But I'll tell ya, if I can find a chic w/ as much going for her as my bike has going for it, I'd marry her biatch-azz!

    Edit edit: and to further anthropomorphize a bike, my '11 Jedi would be like one of those "dangerous" girls you just can't stay away from or get enough of. If you're on your game and pay attention when you're around her, she'll reward you w/ a most amazing experience! And, the positive feedback of your ability and her DH prowess would result in a other-worldly run But, if you let your attention slip or treat her w/o the respect she demands, she'll throw you an ass-beating of the century! Yeah, she's unforgiving as hell that way!
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    well said, generally people will only say something when something breaks and they are pissed about it. not many people come on here and say' "i have x bike and it is perfectly mediocre".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    I hate Avid brakes.
    I've had the exact opposite experience with Avid. Hope you find something that works.

    Oh, and I should mention I've had the bike for more than a year, so I've put it through the paces.

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    It sucks that you have to make a post like that - but your right. I love my bike too and I really can't think of anything that sucks on it. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have bought it if it did...

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    I too have had nothing but great times this year riding my bike.

    A full day of riding at Downieville this Friday = more good times

    In 2 weeks, 6 hours of Kirkwood Super D = 6 hours of good times



    We are lucky to have bikes that as so good now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The R View Post
    I've had the exact opposite experience with Avid. Hope you find something that works.
    Shimano works. Second gen dual control XT, and the new XT are awesome. Formula works, but finicky to setup.

    Well, Avid BB-7 are the best mech disks and work perfectly fine, so I was wrong saying I hate everything from Avid. And I was on Avid V-brakes and levers for many years.

    I really liked the Shadow redesign of Shimano derailleurs. Last XTR shifter are perfection. Thomson seatpost and stem - bike feels wrong without them. Fizik saddles are tailor made for my butt.

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    #1, there is too many fanboy's on this forum, and not enough educated/experienced opinion.

    #2, there are too many pretentious f*cktards on this forum whom honestly believe that if you don't buy "top shelf" equipment, then it's junk.

    but, flipside of those two statements....there are also many helpful, honest and knowledgeable people here on this forum that will go out of their way to help a new guy. just ignore the former type and embrace the latter.
    Consequences dictate our course of action and it doesn't matter what's right. It's only wrong if you get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone View Post
    #1, there is too many fanboy's on this forum, and not enough educated/experienced opinion.

    #2, there are too many pretentious f*cktards on this forum whom honestly believe that if you don't buy "top shelf" equipment, then it's junk.

    but, flipside of those two statements....there are also many helpful, honest and knowledgeable people here on this forum that will go out of their way to help a new guy. just ignore the former type and embrace the latter.
    But sometimes we're one in the same and just like to be a bit of a ass-hat/d0uch3 nozzle because the intardwebz are fun
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    thanks alot, op..your bike spec just made my bike suck.
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    Its all relative........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    But sometimes we're one in the same and just like to be a bit of a ass-hat/d0uch3 nozzle because the intardwebz are fun
    crap i hadn't considered that yet lol.

    usually people can tell when something is said in jest...but not always.
    Consequences dictate our course of action and it doesn't matter what's right. It's only wrong if you get caught.

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    Who cares. People like to ***** more than rave about their products. Relax son.

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    You're not just talking about this site, you're talking about every review site on the internet.

    The tip to finding useful information is this - check around other places, and look for trends.

    Example: Avid Juicy 3 brakes. I see not just on here but other sites people mentioning they leak after a few months. While I'm sure most people probably don't have an issue with them, that's something I personally would take notice and consider when looking to purchase between different brands.

    Another example: Avid Single Digit 7's. Again, not just here but all around the internet I see nothing but rave reviews for them. Again, that's information I'd trust.

    One or two mentions can be considered flukes after all the best products will have a few bad eggs now and then. But, if the problem gets mentioned around different sites by different people it's probably something you can take notice of and consider useful information.

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    People that spend big $$ on components like to reassure themselves that everything less expensive sucks. It doesn't.
    Grit, spit, and a whole lot of duct tape!

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    Love my Avid Elixir CR's.
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    I can appreciate this thread.

    I did know that my bike does not suck, but I proved it again when I took it to Whistler last weekend, and kept up with or smoked everyone I was with on their DH bikes, on a bike that in the eyes of the internets isn't a standout or really all that fancy.

    Then rode the Whistler valley trails the next day with zero setup change.

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    This is my thread! My bike / components dont suck either! All my mid grade stuff is awsome too!

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    Good post! Smiles for everybody!! But at the moment I'm not loving my bent crank. Replacement is in the mail and I will love it.
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    I tend to think the mid-range stuff is the best value to performance ratio. I'm talking X9/XT. My X7 stuff on the one bike has been alright, but nowhere near as smooth as my X9. SLX stuff is surprisingly good as well, especially the brakes and cranks, if a bit heavier than XT.

    I've had problems will anything lower level than that. Deore or lower, X5 or lower, etc. It's all been crap that just hasn't held up to the riding I do. Tuning it and dialing it in is also a b*tch. So I think there's a level reached where you get noticeable gains in performance, weight, and longevity. I think once you get to XO/XX and XTR level you get into bling factor and ultra weight savings. The price to performance ratio just doesn't work for me at those levels. Everyone has a different compass though, and people like racers or wannabe racers can justify it to themselves based on how they ride. It might have tangible benefits to them. To the average person, not so much.
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    @ 40oz + for your avatar. it does not suck.

    growing up on bmx with little money, these days i just try to match my bike to my skill set and adjust accordingly to which one starts sucking more.

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    My wife wants me to buy a bike at Wal-Mart and I told her that everyone on the internet would make fun of me. . .

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    Funny,I did not get that impression when I first joined!
    Oh,by the way,Specialized SUCKS!!!

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    There are much better reasons not to buy a bike at Wal-Mart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graffin1 View Post
    My wife wants me to buy a bike at Wal-Mart and I told her that everyone on the internet would make fun of me. . .
    Hilarious!

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    It's very true, I have a mid range 29er it's freaking awesome. I have a family and can't just buy all the best for my ride( I would like to) but I have to concider them too . I also had a 14 yr old Gary fisher it was also a mid range. All I have to say is they are made to last a long time!!!!
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    Smile so true

    This is so true! That is why this (and so many other) MTB forums seems to be so negative as opossite to be constructive!
    My byke also rules!
    Lets ride and be more constructive about our sport instead of saying that everything sucks.
    (BTW, this is my first post here. Cheers! )

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    I think all is related

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    Oh,by the way,Specialized SUCKS!!!
    I'm comfortable with a difference of opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone View Post
    #1, there is too many fanboy's on this forum, and not enough educated/experienced opinion.

    #2, there are too many pretentious f*cktards on this forum whom honestly believe that if you don't buy "top shelf" equipment, then it's junk.

    but, flipside of those two statements....there are also many helpful, honest and knowledgeable people here on this forum that will go out of their way to help a new guy. just ignore the former type and embrace the latter.
    I agree with your second statement, especially.

    I don't get the impression you were accusing me of anything, but just to be clear to all, I'm not a fanboy for any particular brand. I'm of the opinion that pretty much any bike shop brand can and does make a decent bike. I'd consider any number of brands. I'm just really happy with what I bought -- both this bike and my old one I bought back in 2002.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The R View Post
    I agree with your second statement, especially.

    I don't get the impression you were accusing me of anything, but just to be clear to all, I'm not a fanboy for any particular brand. I'm of the opinion that pretty much any bike shop brand can and does make a decent bike. I'd consider any number of brands. I'm just really happy with what I bought -- both this bike and my old one I bought back in 2002.
    The question is, why do you care? Honestly, if you're happy with your bike and you like riding it, why care what anyone else thinks?
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    Hey OP, you suck. And your bike, it sucks! Shitt, you all suck. And why not, I suck too. My bike though, my bike is rad. Except for the shitty cane creek headset. That things sucks balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu View Post
    Hey OP, you suck. And your bike, it sucks! Shitt, you all suck. And why not, I suck too. My bike though, my bike is rad. Except for the shitty cane creek headset. That things sucks balls.
    Fotu, we all know you suck. But how you earn your living wasn't the topic of discussion here.
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    I just got a Chinese motorcycle. It sucks. Not complaining, just saying. I also have a GM pickup. That things sucks too. I have Aksiums on my road bike. They kinda suck. You know what sucks more than all these things? Having no motorcycle, truck, or wheels for my roadbike. And living in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    Fotu, we all know you suck. But how you earn your living wasn't the topic of discussion here.
    Yeah, pimpin' out my sucky headset hasn't been gettin me very far. But Ima just keep puttin it out there. *****yll turn some tricks tho (bar spinz, turndowns...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    The question is, why do you care? Honestly, if you're happy with your bike and you like riding it, why care what anyone else thinks?
    It was one of those days I needed a dose of positivity, and I was thinking, "Damn, I really like my bike!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    The question is, why do you care? Honestly, if you're happy with your bike and you like riding it, why care what anyone else thinks?
    Also, I should clarify, this wasn't a response to anyone saying my bike sucked or anything like that. Even if anyone did, it wouldn't bother me. Like you said: I like it, who cares? Just trying to spread some positivity. It seemed like a lot of posts I read that day were complaints of some sort.

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    Glad you like your full XT full squish with lyrics and a dropper post, hydraulic brakes, fox shock, and stock wheels. (hahah stock wheels)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The R View Post
    I've noticed something about this site -- according to a good number of posters on this board, every product out there seems to suck.

    Carbon frames suck. Such and such forks suck (Rock Shox, Fox, name it -- it sucks). These brakes suck, those brakes suck. Avid break shoes suck. This adjustable seat posts suck, that one sucks.

    There is a horror story about EVERYTHING. And I guess I'm not saying that they're all without validity, but when you get enough people together who spend a lot of time and money on bikes, there are going to be problems here and there.

    But I think I'd never buy ANYTHING if I listened to every horror story about every part/bike ever reviewed/critiqued/commented on on this site. It can't possibly all suck.

    So in an effort to spin some positivity, I'm going to list everything about my bike that does not suck. In fact, overall, it's a high-end, quality bike with superior performance, and I am thrilled with the purchase. There have been no issues beyond normal wear and tear.

    This is not an effort to promote and bike or brand. It's possible that any combination of bikes and brands will probably also not suck.

    I ride 4-6 times a week in Colorado. I go out for 1-2 hours at a time. I ride trails that are slightly more technical than most. We have lots of rocks and loose gravel. I will do 2-3 foot drops, but I do not huck off cliffs. I have ridden this bike on the black and the easier double black trails at Keystone Bike Park.

    Bike: 2010 Specialized Enduro Comp, all stock except I added XT cranks and shifters. I just prefer the push-pull action of Shimano over the push-push action of SRAM. I also added a reverb seat post. The bike does not suck. It rules.

    The stem is great.

    The handlebars are great -- plus I like the white color, which is sold as OE only.

    The Lyrik forks are great.

    The avid elixer breaks are great. No squeaky noise, except when wet.

    XT cranks have been great.

    XT pedals -- very satisfied.

    XT rear derailleur -- awesome.

    XT shifters --- awesome

    Stock wheelset -- great for me.

    Rear shock (modified Fox float for enduro) -- super.

    Eskar Control Tires -- also great.

    Quick release seat post clamp -- holds the seat where I need it.

    Saddle -- plenty comfy.

    Chain guide -- I like it. Thumbs up.

    Reverb -- I haven't had it long, but so far, so good.

    This is not to say there aren't better parts out there -- something lighter, maybe a little more functional. This is not to say that I never have to perform routine maintenance, but so far this has been an awesome, trouble-free bike. (And it's at the bottom of the Enduro product line). I would recommend to anybody.

    If you, too, have a bike that does not suck, please feel free to comment below.
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    I think it's pretty simple. All the parts I have don't suck. If any of your parts are different, they suck.
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    lol reading almost all the threads here make me feel like my bike sucks, if it makes you feel any better haha

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    My bike freaking RULES....I'm the one who sucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by __Z__ View Post
    lol reading almost all the threads here make me feel like my bike sucks, if it makes you feel any better haha
    Sorry man, that was not my intention. If your bike works for you most of the time and you have fun riding it, that's what it's all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmxking45 View Post
    My bike freaking RULES....I'm the one who sucks!
    I can relate.

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    My bike does not suck...

    It's simply a source for infinite possible upgrades.

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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    The worst part about my bike is the operator!

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    I have a Giant Revel 1, since November It may not be the best bike around, but for the price I got a bike that introduce me to mountain biking, Got a recon solo air for it, awesome, XT FD, huge improvement over alivio crap, and wellgo AL something pedals, weight a lot but nice grip with my 5.ten freeriders.

    Now I'm waiting my new SC Butcher, should be here by Tuesday, with a box full of goodies (blackspire stinger, 36t chainring, stans sealant, bashguard, etc.). I'll be posting how that is not gonna suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosmontiel View Post
    I have a Giant Revel 1, since November It may not be the best bike around, but for the price I got a bike that introduce me to mountain biking, Got a recon solo air for it, awesome, XT FD, huge improvement over alivio crap, and wellgo AL something pedals, weight a lot but nice grip with my 5.ten freeriders.

    Now I'm waiting my new SC Butcher, should be here by Tuesday, with a box full of goodies (blackspire stinger, 36t chainring, stans sealant, bashguard, etc.). I'll be posting how that is not gonna suck.
    Yes, that bike is so not going to suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosmontiel View Post
    I have a Giant Revel 1, since November It may not be the best bike around, but for the price I got a bike that introduce me to mountain biking, Got a recon solo air for it, awesome, XT FD, huge improvement over alivio crap, and wellgo AL something pedals, weight a lot but nice grip with my 5.ten freeriders.

    Now I'm waiting my new SC Butcher, should be here by Tuesday, with a box full of goodies (blackspire stinger, 36t chainring, stans sealant, bashguard, etc.). I'll be posting how that is not gonna suck.
    STANS SEALANT SUCKS!!!Try Slime Pro Sealant,seriously 1.5 years later and its still wet!Unlike the stans that turns into a solid after 6 months...

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    I am happy with my bike, and it does not suck. I also have a Pitch with XT drive train, except the front derailleur, which is LX and kinda sucks. Have the SLX version of the Trail SPDs, and they definitely do not suck. The front fork is that proprietary Pike, and it might suck without the motion control, but I don't know what the motion control is or what it does, so I can't say if it sucks or not. I can say it works just fine for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    STANS SEALANT SUCKS!!!Try Slime Pro Sealant,seriously 1.5 years later and its still wet!Unlike the stans that turns into a solid after 6 months...
    Rigth now I have slime in my tubes, it is really nice, no flats since install. But gonna use stans for ghetto tubeless.

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    I agree with the OP about the large number of posts hating certain bikes/parts. Don't sweat it though. People react to experiences like that because they are passionate about the sport, and have obvious personal preferences (like being a fan of a particular team or automobile maker).

    My advice is this: 1) Join IMBA (or at least go to their website) and look at the list of corporate sponsors, and buy from those companies listed (a great number of reputable companies will be there). That way the money you spend will go back into our sport even if the product sucks. 2) If you buy something and it fails to perform as expected, contact the store/manufacturer to see what they can do to get you what you need. Just because they make something you don't like doesn't mean they won't help you find something you do like. And if their customer service sucks then don't go with them again... and let everyone here know about your bad experience, of course. 3) Don't worry about it.

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    I hate Avid brakes.
    yup sucks BIG TIME!

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    I have a maverick speedball R-bought it a week after the remote option came out-still going strong-it does NOT suck (hell, even I can't believe it)

    My Fox Talas 140 has saved my face several times-it does NOT suck

    My new Formula RX brakes, for a $140 a pop, does NOT suck.

    My Intense 5.5 is no longer sold, but it does NOT suck

    operator has his on/off days though!!!

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    I totally get this!!! Because of reading experiences on this forum, I decided to cancel an order for another Niner frame - my newest 29er (I'm just getting it and already buying my third 29er) - and ordered a Vertigo. While I'm pretty sure I'll hear crap from the Niner followers (Key word and to the point of this thread..."Followers) but, I'm pretty sure my Vertigo won't suck!!??
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    In response to parts sucking, I just purchased a 2010 Specialized All Mountain Disc this afternoon. I drove it home with no problems but later this evening after taking it out for another spin when shifting the main gears 1-2-3 it gets stuck from one to two. The chain just gets hung up. If I switch from 1 2 to 3 quickly it will go to three without a problem. Down from 3 to 2 its smooth as well but like I said 1 to 2 does not work.... I am very new to biking and was wondering how big of an issue this is. This bike is brand new.. should I be worried and think about bringing it back altogether other than for them to fix this? Should I get a different bike? I am just shocked I am already having such a problem already... any insight would be awesome thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcage View Post
    Hi,
    In response to parts sucking, I just purchased a 2010 Specialized All Mountain Disc this afternoon. I drove it home with no problems but later this evening after taking it out for another spin when shifting the main gears 1-2-3 it gets stuck from one to two. The chain just gets hung up. If I switch from 1 2 to 3 quickly it will go to three without a problem. Down from 3 to 2 its smooth as well but like I said 1 to 2 does not work.... I am very new to biking and was wondering how big of an issue this is. This bike is brand new.. should I be worried and think about bringing it back altogether other than for them to fix this? Should I get a different bike? I am just shocked I am already having such a problem already... any insight would be awesome thanks!
    Bring it back for warranty repair/maintenance... many lbs offer at least 30 days to 1 year of free basic maintenance and adjustments when you buy a new bike from them. Don't mess it up and call them to ask what they can do before it get costly by voiding warranty, etc...

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    Thanks, Yeah I plan on bringing it back in. Just pissed that it's a brand new bike and it's already effing up. Hope this isn't a warning on more problems to come.

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    SRAM is awesome, Shimano is awesome, etc, there is a whole ton of stuff out there that is awesome.

    Bontrager sucks (for mtn biking, I like their road tires.)

    When it comes down to it, I don't have to have loads of performance, I just hate stuff that breaks from minimal use!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmc82 View Post
    My advice is this: 1) Join IMBA (or at least go to their website) and look at the list of corporate sponsors, and buy from those companies listed (a great number of reputable companies will be there). That way the money you spend will go back into our sport even if the product sucks. 2) If you buy something and it fails to perform as expected, contact the store/manufacturer to see what they can do to get you what you need. Just because they make something you don't like doesn't mean they won't help you find something you do like. And if their customer service sucks then don't go with them again... and let everyone here know about your bad experience, of course. 3) Don't worry about it.
    This is sound advice.

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    I HATE shitty crap that sucks. You know what doesn't suck? Awesomeness, radness, coolness. Also coldbeer, Belgian waffles with real maple syrup, and blowjobs. Those things are awesome too!

    Waiiiit a second...blowjobs DO suck...so do I want them or don't I? If I buy a blowjob that sucks (inevitable one way or another), will it support sustainable trail building?

    oh the dilema...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kcage View Post
    Hi,
    In response to parts sucking, I just purchased a 2010 Specialized All Mountain Disc this afternoon. I drove it home with no problems but later this evening after taking it out for another spin when shifting the main gears 1-2-3 it gets stuck from one to two. The chain just gets hung up. If I switch from 1 2 to 3 quickly it will go to three without a problem. Down from 3 to 2 its smooth as well but like I said 1 to 2 does not work.... I am very new to biking and was wondering how big of an issue this is. This bike is brand new.. should I be worried and think about bringing it back altogether other than for them to fix this? Should I get a different bike? I am just shocked I am already having such a problem already... any insight would be awesome thanks!
    Good advice to take it back to the shop to get someone who knows what they are doing to look at it. But don't freak out - bikes take maintenance, and things go out of adjustment all the time. This could be something as easy as having to adjust cable tension - when new cables are installed, the often need to be adjusted shortly afterwards. Over time, you should learn how to do the simple adjustments and maintenance so you don't have to always take it back to the shop.

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    My bike doesn't suck. It gets better as time goes on. BTW why is everyone so negative about things that suck?

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    ... and if we just ...

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    Eskar Control Tires -- also great.

    Try some nevegals... the Eskars will suck then.

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    [QUOTE=Wheelspinn;8349033]
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    Eskar Control Tires -- also great.

    Try some nevegals... the Eskars will suck then.
    Yeah, I've used nevegals, too, and like them a lot. My favorite tire for the dry, loose gravel and sand we have around here is Maxxis high roller. But I've been impressed with th eskars. They've held up well and have pretty decent traction.

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    [QUOTE=The R;8352123]
    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspinn View Post

    Yeah, I've used nevegals, too, and like them a lot. My favorite tire for the dry, loose gravel and sand we have around here is Maxxis high roller. But I've been impressed with th eskars. They've held up well and have pretty decent traction.
    Do the high rollers have decently low rolling resistance ? I was looking at those as a possible test subject for a front tire. I still have another brand new eskar for the rear.

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    Ever try the butchers?
    If it's not one thing it's your mother

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    I have Eskars just taking up space because I thought they sucked. Am rolling High Rollers now.

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    Cool... I'm gonna try one on the front
    If it's not one thing it's your mother

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    Quote Originally Posted by The R View Post
    Yeah, I've used nevegals, too, and like them a lot. My favorite tire for the dry, loose gravel and sand we have around here is Maxxis high roller. But I've been impressed with th eskars. They've held up well and have pretty decent traction.
    Nevegals suck. Its like riding through molasses. They seem to sap out the daylight and they smell funny.

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    I love my Avid Single Digit 7's, especially when they are outfitted with Jagwire Ripcord cable/housings.

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    Age 4: silver bike no name with a glued hosepipe as a front tire; was the reason for my first 4 stitches and natural tattoo loved that bike.
    Age 6: Western Flyer Rustler: U-shaped handlebar, no gears no suspension, jumped over 8 kids lying down horizontally using a brick and a plank (they're all alive and well today still) that bike rocked. Took it to the BMX track and although I got all the "negative" feedback I felt like a roman chariot racer.
    Had many bikes since then over the past 30 + odd years. Seen technology go from monopoly to multi-industrial manufacture and supply, catering for each and every individual want and need all depending on what the pocket can afford. From low end products to high end products all serving a purpose if maintained and properly applied for the required use. I do not take my M3 off-roading, nor do I use a part for something it was not intended for. The harder it works, the better the required quality the product needs to have.

    For me it is not a matter of something sucking, mere an indication that my product requirement has changed and will I now have to spend more for a product that will perform at my required level.

    If the part I use breaks or leaks or malfunctions, I can only hope that the manufacturers will improve on the design / manufacture / expand on their product testing or I have to replace it with an alternative. Technology advances only at the cost of the consumer, this is inevitable no matter how I think about this, the consumer always pay. What do we get in return? Improved products or bankrupt companies.

    And in the end I feel I suck for not being able to ride my bike more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilirubin View Post
    I am happy with my bike, and it does not suck. I also have a Pitch with XT drive train, except the front derailleur, which is LX and kinda sucks. Have the SLX version of the Trail SPDs, and they definitely do not suck. The front fork is that proprietary Pike, and it might suck without the motion control, but I don't know what the motion control is or what it does, so I can't say if it sucks or not. I can say it works just fine for me!
    After another great weekend ride in the mountains, I am still in love with my bike!

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    Vacuums suck
    60% of the time ......it works all the time

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