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    mtb for very rocky desert trails no dab

    I want an Mtb for very rocky uphill desert trails. I want it to train and to climb w/o dabbing. Here is the story. I have a 93 bridgestone mb3 with rock shocks mag 21. Old stuff that I've been riding for many years. I moslty ride a roadie but want to ride mtb during the winter.

    My problem, is that I am not as light as when I got the bike. I am about 200 lbs. When I climb, I don't care about going fast. I just want to be able to do these long steady and very rocky climbs without unclipping

    Right now, the trail will send my bike jumping here and there and I'll have to unclip which I hate.

    Once I put a child seat on the bike to carry my grandson. I was ridding with it and the bike was a tank. But it tracked great and I wouldn't unclip ever. So weight is not a concern.

    So, I've been thinking of a cheap DS. It is not for jumping or crazy stuff, but to be able to seat and pedal uphill w/o unclipping.

    But everyone says 29er with a Tora.

    So, for what I want, which is to be able to stay seated going up on very rocky stuff, shall I get a 29er with a Tora fork or a DS with a tora fork and some cheap suspension at back?

    There are several DS bikes out there with Tora front, cheap stuff in the back and about 4 inches of travel in the back. Will this setup keep me seated and pedaling up long rocky trails? or will the 29er work better?

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by andresmuro
    I want an Mtb for very rocky uphill desert trails. I want it to train and to climb w/o dabbing. Here is the story. I have a 93 bridgestone mb3 with rock shocks mag 21. Old stuff that I've been riding for many years. I moslty ride a roadie but want to ride mtb during the winter.

    My problem, is that I am not as light as when I got the bike. I am about 200 lbs. When I climb, I don't care about going fast. I just want to be able to do these long steady and very rocky climbs without unclipping

    Right now, the trail will send my bike jumping here and there and I'll have to unclip which I hate.

    Once I put a child seat on the bike to carry my grandson. I was ridding with it and the bike was a tank. But it tracked great and I wouldn't unclip ever. So weight is not a concern.

    So, I've been thinking of a cheap DS. It is not for jumping or crazy stuff, but to be able to seat and pedal uphill w/o unclipping.

    But everyone says 29er with a Tora.

    So, for what I want, which is to be able to stay seated going up on very rocky stuff, shall I get a 29er with a Tora fork or a DS with a tora fork and some cheap suspension at back?

    There are several DS bikes out there with Tora front, cheap stuff in the back and about 4 inches of travel in the back. Will this setup keep me seated and pedaling up long rocky trails? or will the 29er work better?

    Thx
    If by "DS" you mean "dual suspension", it is more common the refer to it as "FS" (full suspension).

    Well, owning a 29er hard tail and a 26" FS, I think the rear suspension does more than the larger wheel in terms of traction when climbing. That said, not all FS are created equal. Crappy rear suspension sucks and I'd rather be on a 29er HT.

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    Take a look at the Giant Trance X, Turner 5 Spot, Turner Sultan (a full suspension 29er), and the Ibis Mojo.

    As kapusta says, you want a full suspension bike that'll pedal well uphill. All of the above bikes should be great for that purpose.

    I wouldn't get too hung up on whether the bike has a Tora fork or not. You do want a good fork, but it doesn't necessarily need to be a Tora. (The Tora is not at the top of the Rock Shox line anyway.)

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    I think this will all depend on what your budget is. If its under say $1400 I would consider the 29er hard tail.

    If you can swing more than ~1400 then a nice FS bike would be the way to go. Any of the newer suspension designs (VPP, Maestro, DW, FSR....) will be a big help on tech climbs.

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    hmmm, i'd look for a high bb, long chainstays, 5" travel would be ok, and XC fit. How about a marin quad-xc bike? East peaks are getting cleared out all over the place.
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    If they are long steady climbs.. not much should be making you unclip. It might be worth it to try some modern wide, light and fast tires on the old MB3 first, something like a WTB Weirwolt LT

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