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    New question here. Merging DH and XC - one bike myth

    I currently own a RM Flatline for DH and a RM Altitude RSL for XC... But I can't keep both so I'm seriously considering an AM bike for occasionnal DH and all the other stuff...

    That bike must be capable of occasionnal foray into DH trails like Mont-Sainte-Anne and Bromont, and yet still capable of pedalling efficiently and comfortably in XC-ish trails la Kingdom Trails and other East coast singletrack stuff...

    But there's so many offering in the 150mm-170mm range, I would love to have some suggestion.

    So far, I'm very interested in building up a Nukeproof Mega. 150mm back, 66HA, 75 STA... Looks like a good compromise.

    Others bikes I'm seeking advices/reviews on are the following :

    Trek Slash, Remedy,
    Spescialized Stumpjumper EVO, Enduro
    RM Slayer

    And finally, anyone else made a similar move ? What bke did you picked ?

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    I picked a Norco Range 3

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    I suggest reading some of the threads in this forum: http://forums.mtbr.com/all-mountain/ . And maybe searching.

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    I know there is a ton of similar post... None really addressed the DH to XC thing-y to my liking - hence a new post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    I picked a Norco Range 3
    Linking it ? Can this bike handle rough DH like MSA or the Garbanzo zone in Whistler on occasions ?

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    I was in the same boat with my Banshee Legend. I ended up with the Canfield One. I really like to pedal to earn my turns, this bike is amazing. Jump on the Canfield forum and see what's been done with the One.

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    Liking my Yeti SB-66 frame with my own build, 150mm rear. 160mm front. 65.9deg head angle. Have not had time to take it to a local ski hill yet. It wont be any DH bike but it will be good I only go ~3 times a year for lift runs anyway.

    Also Giant Reign X I had before was pretty good but this yeti kills it on pedaling. Plus my giant was way to small for me.

    Nomad? never ridden one but my buddy likes his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMDirtFace View Post
    Liking my Yeti SB-66 frame with my own build, 150mm rear. 160mm front. 65.9deg head angle. Have not had time to take it to a local ski hill yet. It wont be any DH bike but it will be good I only go ~3 times a year for lift runs anyway.

    Also Giant Reign X I had before was pretty good but this yeti kills it on pedaling. Plus my giant was way to small for me.

    Nomad? never ridden one but my buddy likes his.
    woah, that SB-66 looks quite nice. In what kind of trail do you like it most ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    woah, that SB-66 looks quite nice. In what kind of trail do you like it most ?
    Only had it about a week and have not had time to take it anywhere other than trails near town which are pretty much XC trails, couple jumps runs. I love it! still dialing the suspension.

    Picture gallery of my XL yeti sb-66 YETI SB-66 - KTMDirtFace's Photos

    Looking forward to trying it out in some rougher and steeper terrain. ( most trails here are smooth )

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    Linking it ? Can this bike handle rough DH like MSA or the Garbanzo zone in Whistler on occasions ?
    I'm loving it. I haven't hit Whistler on it, but I did a lot of riding on Vancouver Island a little more than a month ago and it was killer out there. It can certainly take on some nice sized hits. I'm not pushing the limits on it yet, but I have managed 7 foot drops with 18 foot distance to the landing, 25 foot launches with some good elevation, nice sized roll ins and jump out areas to.

    I do a lot of "earn your turn" riding so it was the ideal bike for me. I changed out the drivetrain for the X0 and love it and I might get XTR brakes on it too but it's a great bike. I'm just picky about the brakes and although Elixir 3s are my favorite Elixir brake (albeit they are the low end Elixir brakes-reliable). Even with all the stock parts it was incredible to ride. Saw a good number of Norco bikes up on Western BC area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTMDirtFace View Post
    Only had it about a week and have not had time to take it anywhere other than trails near town which are pretty much XC trails, couple jumps runs. I love it! still dialing the suspension.

    Picture gallery of my XL yeti sb-66 YETI SB-66 - KTMDirtFace's Photos

    Looking forward to trying it out in some rougher and steeper terrain. ( most trails here are smooth )
    Nice and burly! Have you weighted it yet ?

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    Have not weighted it other than bathroom scale subtraction which says 36lbs. Its an XL. my coil shock and 2.4" meaty tires are quite heavy.

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    Kona Coilair

    Check out the Kona Coilair 34lbs depending on you personal setup. I currently ride a 07 Kona Coiler Deluxe 38Lbs this is my everyday bike XC, Freeride and some DH. This thing is bomb proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer13 View Post
    Check out the Kona Coilair 34lbs depending on you personal setup. I currently ride a 07 Kona Coiler Deluxe 38Lbs this is my everyday bike XC, Freeride and some DH. This thing is bomb proof.
    I do want to test ride that magic thing... The Coilair wasn't my pick - I was leaning toward the Abra Cadabra. Sub 30lbs is my target.

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    What about a Santa Cruz Blur LTC
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    Knolly chill. Foes FXR Ibis mojo hd. Yeti sb66

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    pivot firebird. pivot 5.7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    What about a Santa Cruz Blur LTC
    I want more than rear travel than 140mm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artin Aga View Post
    Knolly chill. Foes FXR Ibis mojo hd. Yeti sb66
    I just looked at the Mojo HD. I like! It looks like it can easily be beefed up for resort riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    I want more than rear travel than 140mm....
    Then look at a Nomad

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    thanks to all for the suggestions ; I'll look inte the SB-66 and the Range. The Nukeproof is also still on the list... The price is hard to ignore.

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    Was in the same boat, had a Knolly podium and Orange Five, just sold both and got Orange Alpine 160. Comes stock with rp23, will get coil shock and big wheels for summer uplifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    thanks to all for the suggestions ; I'll look inte the SB-66 and the Range. The Nukeproof is also still on the list... The price is hard to ignore.
    Both the SB-66 and Range are beautiful bikes. I know there are a few variations of the SB-66 with slight differences for different purposes-so that is a cool upside of them. I believe Artscyclery has some of them. The Range 3 is as is. Range 2, 1, and LE are also awesome-but the price goes up and up. I've got 2011 model of the Range 3, but I've put more money into it to make it 'better' than the 2012 model, regardless of lack of ART suspension style. You would have a hard time going "wrong" with either bike. I personally have no experience with Nukeproof though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    I do want to test ride that magic thing... The Coilair wasn't my pick - I was leaning toward the Abra Cadabra. Sub 30lbs is my target.
    i dont think sub 30 on a dh capable bike will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    i dont think sub 30 on a dh capable bike will happen.
    Yeah, was going to say the same. I ride a bike which is mainly used for xc (whatever that means), but also lot's of other stuff right up to DH centers. I have 180mm suspension, but with modern designs that's not a problem, works just fine for what I want.

    However when you start attempting to get sub 30lb weights you'll just make so many compromises that you'll break it the first time you go ride proper downhill. Add to this that you'll have to use an air shock etc...

    For a real do it all bike you need a balanced build, and that does not usually mean throwing silly light parts and tires on a burly frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I was in the same boat with my Banshee Legend. I ended up with the Canfield One. I really like to pedal to earn my turns, this bike is amazing. Jump on the Canfield forum and see what's been done with the One.
    +1 for the Canfield ONE
    its amazing do it all bike.

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    You're looking for 32-36lb, 6"-7" travel bikes, HA of 66-67, with suspensions that have good climbing characteristics (Maestro, DW, VPP, probably others). Get on a few of these and buy the one that fits. Get a set of lightweight XC tires/rims and heavy duty DH tires/rims and you'll be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tartosuc View Post
    +1 for the Canfield ONE
    its amazing do it all bike.
    Anyone knows the weight of a medium frame ?

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    I'm running my Yeti ASR 7 for this purpose and my wife fell in love with the Pivot Firebird which is an amazing bike now that I've finally got a chance to ride one a bit.
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    One frame weight with a coil is 10.25 lbs, around 8.25 without.
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    I have a knolly endorphin and it is a great bike but it came up short on the few bikepark trips I did this summer. I have just ordered a knolly delirium and a 2012 fox talas 180, I'll move the parts from my endo to the delirium and will probably invest in a second wheel set. Hopefully this will be my one do it all bike.

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    I thought I would look into this bike real quick as a future mini dh, and found this impressive video.
    Canfield Brothers "one" suspension. - YouTube

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    I love my Ibis HD. It is light, stiff, strong, pedals well, is extremely versatile. It is the only bike I own, and I do everything with it. If a bike can withstand my 220lbs of daily abuse, and still be in the low 30lb range than it gets the thumbs up from me.
    My only issue in using one bike for everything has been tire selection. Often when I'm going on more XC oriented rides I'm tempted to run lighter tires, but inevitably because the bike is so capable those XC rides turn into something else. One thing leads to another and I find myself slapping the 950gram Butcher SX back on, and resigning myself to the fact that lighter weight tires aren't in the cards for me.
    Also the HD doesn't have ISG tabs, which sucks, but Ibis has other solutions, so its not so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morandi View Post
    Also the HD doesn't have ISG tabs, which sucks.
    Can someone explain this to me? I ran a ISCG adaptor on my 07 Mission for the longest without issue. The experience left me with a who cares if a bike has tabs attitude, I'm I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drth Vadr View Post
    Can someone explain this to me? I ran a ISCG adaptor on my 07 Mission for the longest without issue. The experience left me with a who cares if a bike has tabs attitude, I'm I wrong?
    You can't run an adapter on the HD. So if you want to run a dual ring chain guide it has to be a bottom bracket mounted one. The problem with those is that they can rotate when struck, like when going over a log. It then kinda jams up the works.
    Ibis/MRP has a single ring guide that solves this by bolting to one of the pivots in addition to the BB, and I believe they have a dual ring guide that will do the same thing that is in the works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morandi View Post
    You can't run an adapter on the HD. So if you want to run a dual ring chain guide it has to be a bottom bracket mounted one. The problem with those is that they can rotate when struck, like when going over a log. It then kinda jams up the works.
    Ibis/MRP has a single ring guide that solves this by bolting to one of the pivots in addition to the BB, and I believe they have a dual ring guide that will do the same thing that is in the works.
    That never happened to me,but I could just take a hammer and make small adjustments

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    Nukeproof Mega, has all the right angles I'm saving for that frame. Gotta say that I like the short chain-stays on the Spec Enduro though.

    Some ppl are only going to suggest Can/AM brands half of which are made in the same Taiwanese factories as the 'evil' corporate big brand bikes.

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    Stumpjumper Elite - comes with BRAIN. You can fully lock brain and have (basically) a hardtail which climbs like mad. Once you are up the hill, if your downhill section is 100% down just unlock it fully and you have 140/140 plush FS.

    If your down ride is still a bit up and down, unlock it to 50%, and it will behave perfectly. Holding you firm on up, unlocking on bumps.
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    Here is your ticket, 2011 Canfield The ONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    I currently own a RM Flatline for DH and a RM Altitude RSL for XC... But I can't keep both so I'm seriously considering an AM bike for occasionnal DH and all the other stuff...

    That bike must be capable of occasionnal foray into DH trails like Mont-Sainte-Anne and Bromont, and yet still capable of pedalling efficiently and comfortably in XC-ish trails la Kingdom Trails and other East coast singletrack stuff...

    But there's so many offering in the 150mm-170mm range, I would love to have some suggestion.

    So far, I'm very interested in building up a Nukeproof Mega. 150mm back, 66HA, 75 STA... Looks like a good compromise.

    Others bikes I'm seeking advices/reviews on are the following :

    Trek Slash, Remedy,
    Spescialized Stumpjumper EVO, Enduro
    RM Slayer

    And finally, anyone else made a similar move ? What bke did you picked ?
    i went the other way, and i had a nomad with a 180mm fox. i ride at mount saint anne often as well as blue. i converted the nomad to more dh oriented with big brakes, heavy duty wheelset, chainguide etc... still came up short on the dh trails and was not the best xc-ing.

    so i got a m9. if you are going to spend alot of time dhing get a dh bike, you will be more happy. now i do have a hack bike for the trails. dual rings, 160mm travel, etc... it's a bottle rocket. i do dirt jumps on it, wooden features, all day rides, winter riding, etc. the covert is pretty nice also. i could take it dhing if i had to but it won't preform like the m9. plus when i spend the whole day dhing i want as much travel as possible for comfort.
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    ibis mojo HDEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Just picked mine up 160mm full kashima coat with talas adjustable front set up 1x9 with XO weighing in at.... drum roll.......... 26.8 LBS! (WITHOUT PEDALS) Pretty freakin awesome if you ask me! I LOVE IT.
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    X0 running one by 9?

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    I'm in the same boat, got rid of my shorter travel bike, still have my longer travel bike but looking for the "one." Currently looking at the Transition Covert.

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    I tried this for 2 years with a Santa Cruz Nomad. It handled the 3 hills in Colorado - Sol Vista, Winter Park, and Keystone fine. I started DHing quite a bit and beat the Nomad up. Had to rebuild my Lyrik 2 step once a season - taking out my trail riding while it was getting rebuilt.

    After the second rebuild - I decided to get a used DH bike so that gets beat up and my trail riding remains uninterrupted. The DH bike is beat up - but since it is big and heavy it still rides fine.

    TL ; DR - Loosing riding days sucks.

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    I just sold two bikes and ended up with a Pivot Firebird. I was blown away with the handling and capabilities of this bike. It pedals and climbs great and gets even better when descending. Mine is set up at 33lbs at the moment with some bling and some sensible parts that break.

    When deciding to move to a "one bike" for everything I looked hard at the Norco Range and RMB Slayer however I was not able to find any locally to throw a leg over so the FB won out.

    Your list has some great bikes and having one bike for me has been great. I know it won't win any DH or XC races but it will get me up, down and all over anywhere I ride.




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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike View Post
    One frame weight with a coil is 10.25 lbs, around 8.25 without.
    Without a shock or with an air shock?

    I haven't heard of One till now. I'm in absolute awe looking at the specs. I just need to figure out how to fit it in, and to find a way to justify the $$$ with the wife.

    Now to search for review threads....

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    Turner RF . . . oh wait, nevermind.

    Uzzi VP w/adjustable dropouts/rear travel. New update will stiffen the rear even more. Been on mine for 6 months and couldn't be more pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    Without a shock or with an air shock?

    I haven't heard of One till now. I'm in absolute awe looking at the specs. I just need to figure out how to fit it in, and to find a way to justify the $$$ with the wife.

    Now to search for review threads....
    It's 8.25 lbs frame only, add 1 to 1.5 lbs for air shocks or 2 - 2.5 lbs for coil. Builds are looking like 32 - 38 depending on parts (AM to DH).
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    I run a S-Works Enduro. 29.5 lbs in Proper All mountain Mode (tubeless Weirwolf) and probably around 31/32lbs with DH 2.5's with tubes.

    Regualry ride 1500m vert (up) on 1 x 10 and shred down. Run the lifts. I don't normally choose the DH tracks but tech single. Dh tracks are for DH bikes (although I can ride them on the Enduro)

    66.5 HA, Steep seat, light, Amazing grip. Nothing touches this bike IMO

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    Had a look in the "Anyone ride a Last Herb AM or FR?" thread?
    I've got a 165mm Last Herb FR and rode it for a weeks DH in the alps with 180mm totems (morzine, les gets, even 1 run of champery), now back in the UK with 140mm marz 44's and it pedals great on the XC. go midway with lyrics and you're in there. Buying one could be difficult being in Canada though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstuhlman View Post
    Uzzi VP w/adjustable dropouts/rear travel.
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstuhlman View Post
    Turner RF . . . oh wait, nevermind.

    Uzzi VP w/adjustable dropouts/rear travel. New update will stiffen the rear even more. Been on mine for 6 months and couldn't be more pleased.
    Quote Originally Posted by ford power View Post
    This
    Or a Tracer 2 with a 36/Lyrik if you want to lean slighty further towards the trail/pedal-y side of things. Though my T2 seems descend every bit as well as my old Uzzi VPX did and the rear end is definitely stiffer. If we had more dedicated DH stuff around here I would go with an Uzzi VP.

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    I was looking at getting a XC/trail bike and I had my DH rig stolen so I then had to find a "do it all" bike.. I am a cat 1 Dh racer and I also do lots of Epic Xc rides and occasionally will do some XC racing.. the most important piece of info is that I am a 19 year old kid so I ride my stuff hard.. If there is a jump, drop, or rock garden, then you better believe that I will be charging through it as fast as I can..

    I wanted a bike I could still race some Dh on at the smoother courses, but was still pedal-able for the XC rides and such.. I ended up with a Yeti ASR-7.. and I will say this has been the perfect bike for me so far.. I have raced Dh on it and was competitive with the pro class on there full Dh rigs, and I have raced Downieville on it as well as a few smaller XC races.. the only thing I changed on the bike between races was the tires..

    My current build kit is a large frame, Lyric 2 step air, RP23, Enve Carbon Bar, DT swiss 530, Specialized Command post, and 2x10 XT... and it sits at about 32lbs and it climbs very well for how much it weights.. I never have any issues climbing anything on it. I am actually thinking that my build will get heavier soon as the bike climbs very well better with the Lyric at 160mm rather then 130mm and It was built to handle a 180mm fork, so I am thinking that it will get a Totem 2step air soon and a Vivid Air to replace the RP23 when I am doing more gravity stuff. But I still think that the bike will be pedalable and will be better suited to handle my beatings..

    I dont know if you want something as aggressive as the 7 or if you are looking more at a trail bike, but the 7 climbs very well and is very comfortable on epic XC rides and is a monster when it gets pointed back downhill.. I have never felt a non-dh bike that likes to haul ass like the 7 does..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHSman View Post
    I run a S-Works Enduro. 29.5 lbs in Proper All mountain Mode (tubeless Weirwolf) and probably around 31/32lbs with DH 2.5's with tubes.

    Regualry ride 1500m vert (up) on 1 x 10 and shred down. Run the lifts. I don't normally choose the DH tracks but tech single. Dh tracks are for DH bikes (although I can ride them on the Enduro)

    66.5 HA, Steep seat, light, Amazing grip. Nothing touches this bike IMO
    +1. My pro carbon enduro is the best all round bike I have ever ridden. climbs better than a lot of xc bikes, and I can keep up with the guys riding dual crown coil over bikes when riding the lifts.

    a lot of people are stoked on the ibis mojo...I am soooo glad that my rear triangle IS NOT carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    Linking it ? Can this bike handle rough DH like MSA or the Garbanzo zone in Whistler on occasions ?
    How about a Norco Truax? Yes it's really a 7" Freeride/gravity machine, but it's supposed to pedal surprisingly well.

    I'd also take a look at the Banshee Rune- You can run a 170-180mm fork up front and throw a coil on the rear.

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    Not to come across as a hater or to derail this thread, but I found the one bike "myth" to be exactly that. As the saying goes: "Jack of all trades, master of none."

    Not saying you can't make due with one bike, but compromises will be had in one area or another. For instance, a RM slayer or Norco Range or Chilcotin (even a Delerium) isn't going to shred a bike park or pure DH as much as your Flatline. Just ain't gonna happen. Also, those same bikes aren't going to slay XC rides as well as your element.

    Now, saying that....if you just dabble in DH (i.e. ride a few times a year) and the reason why you climb is for the descent, then the new crop of AM bikes will absolutely get the job done, but it ain't gonna be like monster trucking your Flatline down uber steep terrain. I say that as someone that builds and rides steep DH trails a fair bit.

    I'm sure Lance could probably out climb and out descend me on The One, but his last name is Canfield and mine isn't! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebxtreme View Post
    I'm sure Lance could probably out climb and out descend me on The One, but his last name is Canfield and mine isn't! lol

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    Good point EB. I'm with you on this, but I was amazed at how versatile The One was that we rode at I-bike.

    I think it was Lance's personal bike (not sure it was Lance I was talking to at the van) and it was set up in full DH mode (888Ti evo, CCDB with the rear set at 8 inches) and while it wasn't quite like riding the Jedi on the BC DH trails, I was amazed at how close it was for an "AM" bike. I think the HA is like 64.5 and the BB is around 13" in this set up.

    I'd like to ride it in the AM mode now to see how capable it is set up with full air, single crown, and 6.5" rear travel.

    Pretty amazing bike. What sets it apart from most other do-all bikes (other than the Delirium, UZZI, and Nicolai AFR) is that you can adjust the geometry and the travel keeping the BB low when you add a longer fork.

    To the OP. We rode a ton of bikes in this class at the I-bike Dirt Demo. Check out this thread for our reviews.

    Some of our other favorites (though most of these aren't going take an 8" dual crown fork like The One) in this category from DD.

    1. Cove G-Spot
    2. Ibis Mojo HD
    3. Commencal Meta AM
    4. Rocky Mountain Slayer 70
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    i dont think sub 30 on a dh capable bike will happen.
    I'll have another wheelset and some orner parts for dh. It's the xc-trail set up that i want under 30

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    i'm not expecting my new ride to descent like a dh bike or sprint like an xc one... I want something that will allow me to ride mellow stuff like kingdom trails with ease and also handle 4-5 days a season in the park... I think i have a narrow it down to these bikes :
    YETI SB-66
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    Santa Cruz has their stuff together when dealing with the do everything bike. I bought a Butcher in the spring a and set it up with a 1x9 with a chain guide, 2.4 inch tires, 31 inch bars and a short stem. I use it for everything. Its been to several bike parks and is a blast on an DH terrain. On the other hand, it still weighs around 30 pound and it is no problem to pedal on trails.

    I also had the opportunity to ride a Nomad when I went to Moab last June. The Nomad is equally as versatile as the Butcher and proved it self to be able to climb, handle drops and plow through rocky terrain. If I had more of a budget, the Nomad would have been the one bike quiver.
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    just added the 2012 Knolly Chilcotin to the finalist. It's gonna be a though choice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    just added the 2012 Knolly Chilcotin to the finalist. It's gonna be a though choice!
    Definitely a great choice....( and I'm dying to ride one), unless you're in a hurry. The first batch which should be shipping any day is sold out and waiting time for new orders is predicted to be January at the earliest.
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    I'm wondering could the Orange Five do it by switching the RP23 & Cane Creek Double Barrel? :P

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    Depends on your riding style, but id you're light on the bike a Stumpy would be a good call, if not an AM bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    I just looked at the Mojo HD. I like! It looks like it can easily be beefed up for resort riding.
    yep the mojo hd fits that description to the "T". i went to northstar two weeks ago and the hd conquered every trail out there easily and i truly felt the guys on the full dh rigs didnt have much on me. where i live there is mainly xc and very light am trails and with a tire change the hd is superb on these trails as well, theres no hill i cant climb and im running a 1x10. i do recommend ditching the rp23 though, that shock has no business on a bike this capable

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    Here is my attempt at it. Like it so far.


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    Quest is over. I got a Norco Range for good price.

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    i was going to buy another bike for the occasional park riding trip but i couldn't justify a bike for 4-5 rides a year. so i got a bigger fork and threw on a coil shock. HA should now be around 65.5 - 66 but the STA is now probably 71. static bb height is 14.5 and wheelbase is 46 1/4". adding a little more travel to the bike you already have might not be as bad as you think. my angles, at least, aren't too bad. a nomad seems to be able to handle everything, as well as the new enduro. vp-free seems like it can be setup any way.
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    Try a Nomad - the best bike I've ever owned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    Quest is over. I got a Norco Range for good price.
    Congrats on the new bike. I read a review of the Range a while back and had it on my I-bike list based on their favorable impression. Sounds like a great bike. Sadly, Norco wasn't at the demo so I didn't get to sample it.

    Let us know what you think once you've got a few miles on it. And, of course, pictures are mandatory.
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    I don't know where should I post this, but I'm looking to buy yeti 575 rear triangle. The only place I found was jensenUSA. Anybody knows where else I can buy it or anybody here selling it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by linkem View Post
    I don't know where should I post this, but I'm looking to buy yeti 575 rear triangle. The only place I found was jensenUSA. Anybody knows where else I can buy it or anybody here selling it?
    Starting a new thread rather than burying your question in another, unrelated, thread would probably get you more attention. Also, try in the frames forum.

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    This:



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    I do long trail days on it. Lift assisted days. It just keeps giving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAZU View Post
    Here is my attempt at it. Like it so far.

    There's no chain guide/tensioner?!

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    No, I need one badly. Do you have any recommendations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAZU View Post
    No, I need one badly. Do you have any recommendations?
    e13 lg1+ has never let me down.
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    I am in the same boat and suggest you check out the new Cannondale Jekyll. Its getting rave rave reviews, and with the adjust suspension I think it would fit the bill nicely for you. They also have the Claymore - same concept but even more burley like a free ride bike.




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    Quote Originally Posted by motard5 View Post
    I am in the same boat and suggest you check out the new Cannondale Jekyll. Its getting rave rave reviews, and with the adjust suspension I think it would fit the bill nicely for you. They also have the Claymore - same concept but even more burley like a free ride bike.



    The Jekyll is the real deal. Exactly what is advertised. I've been riding mine now for almost a month and haven't found ANY issues with it whatsoever. Bike is fast! Does everything equally well. It takes a bit to get the suspension dialed in just right, but once you get it, you won't wanna ride anything else.
    I got this bike specifically for when I wanted to ride certain trails. Never did I think it would be efficient enough to ride as an 'everyday' bike, but I find that all I wanna do is ride it. My XC and trail bikes are quickly being forgotten.
    Can't say enough good things about it. The adjustable suspension is amazing, If you want just one bike that can do everything, GET A JEKYLL!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAZU View Post
    No, I need one badly. Do you have any recommendations?
    On my nomad I have a MRP LRP, it allows a 2x deraileur and has been working flawlessly for 6 monthes.

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    Myth Busted!

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    My pick without a doubt would be a Transition Covert. 160 TALAS, 150 rear, 67 HTA, etc.

    My second pick would be a Banshee Rune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V.P. View Post
    Here is your ticket, 2011 Canfield The ONE.

    Setup in 190mm mode here:
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    Here's what I came up with :



    Loving it!

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    Here's mine.



    160 Talas up front.

    750mm Havoc bars, but I switch between a 35 or 50mm stem and clipless pedals depending on where I'm riding.

    The DHX-RC4 makes a world of difference. Originally I planned to switch back and forth between it and the RP23, but dialing up the LSC gives it a very stiff pedaling platform and still soaks up the trail a lot better than the RP23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellurfingers View Post
    Here's mine.



    160 Talas up front.

    750mm Havoc bars, but I switch between a 35 or 50mm stem and clipless pedals depending on where I'm riding.

    The DHX-RC4 makes a world of difference. Originally I planned to switch back and forth between it and the RP23, but dialing up the LSC gives it a very stiff pedaling platform and still soaks up the trail a lot better than the RP23.
    Nice! This was my initial plan but the pricetag scared me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvi View Post
    Here's what I came up with :



    Loving it!


    What chain ring and device are you running dude? 36t?

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    Get a specialized enduro evo
    Go out and rid...SHRED

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilostmypassword View Post


    What chain ring and device are you running dude? 36t?
    As pictured, 34t. That's what I found to be most versatile around here, lots of hills. I switch to 32t for the winter and up to 36t for bike Parks.

    The guide is a LG1+, I think.

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    moved to intended root thread

    ... where the Post Reply button in upper left of the page should post... dumb forum software... fooled again by illogical software behavior.... you'd think this would be fixed by now after all these years!

    Workaround: Always use "Quote" in the OP post, or a specific reply thread, to post where intended, to be considerate to others by maintaining thread relevance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropadrop View Post
    Yeah, was going to say the same. I ride a bike which is mainly used for xc (whatever that means), but also lot's of other stuff right up to DH centers. I have 180mm suspension, but with modern designs that's not a problem, works just fine for what I want.

    However when you start attempting to get sub 30lb weights you'll just make so many compromises that you'll break it the first time you go ride proper downhill. Add to this that you'll have to use an air shock etc...

    For a real do it all bike you need a balanced build, and that does not usually mean throwing silly light parts and tires on a burly frame.
    Plenty of real dh bikes run air shocks these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbabuser View Post
    Plenty of real dh bikes run air shocks these days.
    If your suspension matches the spring rate of the shock, the Vivid Air is an excellent shock. Maybe a little less supple deep in the travel, but it's as close to a coil as a air shock is going to get.

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    If you actually ride dh from time to time, you aren't going to be very happy with many am bikes. I would definitely look into the Canfield One. Super cool company that stands behind their product. It can be built up as a sub-30lb 6in am bike, and or a full 8in dh rig with a dual crown . It also pedals about as good as a Nomad or Mojo HD, and but it's a lot stronger. And it pedals that well even with a coil shock in 8 inch mode. It's the most 'do anything', bike I've ever seen.
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    HD quick change from XC to DH park setup. This worked great to slack the geo and keep the BB and weight center low.

    650b HD conversion for DH park or Trail

    op, I see you got a Norco Range. Looks like a great bike. I've heard the Range is 650b compatible too.

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