• 12-22-2012
    Dogbane
    Mavic Crossmax ST for AM Riding?
    Hi, guys

    I'm in the market for a light weight, yet durable wheelset for my Mojo HD. I saw a brand-new pair of Crossmax ST wheels for $560 and I know that's a screaming deal. I know the Crossmax ST wheels are more of a cross-country set, but I was wondering if anybody is usage them on their AM rigs. I'm 155 lbs and I like to hit some moderately big drops. The allure of these wheels is weight and price. Do you guys think I could make them work for aggressive AM riding? The claimed weight according to Mavic is 1590 grams. My alternative would be lacing hope pro 2 hubs to Stans ZTR hoops at about 1849 grams for $650. As always, any insight is greatly appreciated.:)
  • 12-22-2012
    Bigrocks
    Dog...I been running a set of 2011 STs for over year for more XC type,rocky riding(SC Superlight) and they have held up well, still staight and true. However, I think they are a bit narrow for more aggressive riding AM riding.
  • 12-22-2012
    Stumpjumpy
    Plenty strong for what you are doing, and what you are doing it with

    I know plenty of people who are using the even lighter Mavic SLR's as AM wheels without issue, including myself at 215 lbs (albeit more XCish AM).

    Strong wheels.

    If you want to run more than a 2.35 tire, you will need a wider rim, however.
  • 12-22-2012
    Sleevem1
    Dogbane,
    I just bought a set of hope pro2 on Stans Flows from CRC shipped to my door for 422- discount code worked out to like $372.00.
  • 12-22-2012
    MountainPassion
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  • 12-22-2012
    Dogbane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sleevem1 View Post
    Dogbane,
    I just bought a set of hope pro2 on Stans Flows from CRC shipped to my door for 422- discount code worked out to like $372.00.

    Chain Reaction Cycles?:confused:
  • 12-22-2012
    wi1trackrider
    I've been running a set on my SC Blur TRc. Ride XC/AM. Weight 170# with gear. No problems so far. They've been bullet proof. At the price you list, I'd say give them a shot!
  • 12-22-2012
    Dogbane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wi1trackrider View Post
    I've been running a set on my SC Blur TRc. Ride XC/AM. Weight 170# with gear. No problems so far. They've been bullet proof. At the price you list, I'd say give them a shot!

    Awesome, it's great to hear positive feedback! The only thing I'm worries about is the narrow width of the rims. :skep:
  • 12-22-2012
    Sleevem1
    yes Chain Reaction Cycles. You would save yourself almost 200 bucks over the Crossmax.
  • 12-22-2012
    Dogbane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sleevem1 View Post
    yes Chain Reaction Cycles. You would save yourself almost 200 bucks over the Crossmax.

    They're a European shop, yeah? How was your experience with shipping to the US? Did it take forever?
  • 12-22-2012
    hitechredneck
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    I run ST on my trail/AM rig and have not had a problem. Im 180ish without gear and do up to around 4 to 5ft drops with tannys with no issues. I tend to pick lines instead of just bang threw things but they seem to work out so far.
  • 12-23-2012
    Sleevem1
    Dogbane,
    I live in Canada. I have place lots of orders with them. No issues yet. All of my orders have arrived in one weeks time including the wheelset I mentioned. Lots of people from the states order from them.
  • 12-23-2012
    yeti575inCA
    I ran them for 2 years on my 575 with 2.35 and no issues.. Only finally had spokes tightened after 2 years
  • 12-23-2012
    b-kul
    i would be overly concerned running bigger tires on them. might not be an ideal profile and you may have to bump up the psi but what do you think will be a bigger difference: a less than ideal tire profile or light wheels? i mean it used to be that every one and their mom ran 719s on their bike.
  • 12-24-2012
    wi1trackrider
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dogbane View Post
    Awesome, it's great to hear positive feedback! The only thing I'm worries about is the narrow width of the rims. :skep:

    FYI I'm running Nobby Nics at relatively low PSI with no issues. Front 2.35 at 23PSI, rear 2.25 at 25 PSI. No burping.
  • 12-26-2012
    H2o-Bar
    Running 2.35's No Problem
    I've been running the new ST's for the last year (15mm front/142 on the rear).
    And have had no problem's (probably my 5th Mavic Wheelset and generally they don't need much maintenance).
    I like the new upgraded hub's and the rim's make it super easy to run tubeless.
  • 12-26-2012
    727
    For the AM crossmax not(BREAK) the best is the ZTR FLOW or DT SWISS EN500
  • 12-26-2012
    Procter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dogbane View Post
    They're a European shop, yeah? How was your experience with shipping to the US? Did it take forever?

    They don't take long at all but u.s. buyers will have a customs fee over some $ threshold.

    Not sure what the threshold was, but my $500 haven AL wheelset had a $28 customs fee. Not a huge deal but factor that into your decision.
  • 12-26-2012
    X-FXR
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    I run both wheelsets and have used the both for DH an XC applications. On my newer bike I went w/ the SLís just because its primary riding will be XC and didnít need the STís for that. While I did use the SLís for a couple of seasons at Mammoth and have taken way more abuse than I would have thought they would, I opted for the STís on the new AM bike due to the fact I have two bike bikes. Second with the AM I have more suspension travel and am pushing this bike further than I ever did w/ my older bike. The rigidity is better and I honestly feel Iím able to hold lines better, but itís splitting hairs at that point and the fact the new rims are 20mm (f) and 142mm x 12mm (r).
    The other rim I considered was the WTB Striker, but after 4 seasons on the SLís canít say a bad thing about them hence my decision to get the SLís. I run 2.1ís on the SLís and 2.35ís on the STís. I would have preferred the rims to be blackÖbut color isnít going to make be a better riderÖ.lol

    Mavicís lineup changed in í12 and included improvements, much smoother than my í09 SLís.

    I got a great deal on my wheelsets from Bicycle Emporium, saved on shipping and got them NOW instead of waiting. Could I have got them cheaper onlineÖ.some but again I had to wait and when I need them trued I need the LBS there to do it.

    New
    http://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/f...0903121432.jpg

    older
  • 12-26-2012
    Tikiguy
    I've been abusing ST's for years, 1st pair on a 575, 2nd on my Heackler, running 2.35's tubeless and have not had any issues. Thinking of grabbing a set for my new Remedy 9.8.
  • 12-28-2012
    socalMX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by X-FXR View Post
    I run both wheelsets and have used the both for DH an XC applications. On my newer bike I went w/ the SLís just because its primary riding will be XC and didnít need the STís for that. While I did use the SLís for a couple of seasons at Mammoth and have taken way more abuse than I would have thought they would, I opted for the STís on the new AM bike due to the fact I have two bike bikes. Second with the AM I have more suspension travel and am pushing this bike further than I ever did w/ my older bike. The rigidity is better and I honestly feel Iím able to hold lines better, but itís splitting hairs at that point and the fact the new rims are 20mm (f) and 142mm x 12mm (r).
    The other rim I considered was the WTB Striker, but after 4 seasons on the SLís canít say a bad thing about them hence my decision to get the SLís. I run 2.1ís on the SLís and 2.35ís on the STís. I would have preferred the rims to be blackÖbut color isnít going to make be a better riderÖ.lol

    Mavicís lineup changed in í12 and included improvements, much smoother than my í09 SLís.

    I got a great deal on my wheelsets from Bicycle Emporium, saved on shipping and got them NOW instead of waiting. Could I have got them cheaper onlineÖ.some but again I had to wait and when I need them trued I need the LBS there to do it.

    New
    http://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/f...0903121432.jpg

    older

    The Mavics on the new Shaver are SX which are wider, 21mm and weigh 1750g, just bought some myself!
  • 10-12-2013
    gocat
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    No one ever had issues with the front bearings? Ive had my st for only 4 months and the disc side bearings seized on me cuz no external seal. I normally wash my bike once ever other 2 rides. So i figured im gonna remove the axle every time and not wash so much. After replacing that side bearing with enduro max, readjust the preload to where it spins freely with no play as usual, it started getting gritty again after one ride and did not wash. So i took apart the axle again to check for problems. I looked carefully at the c clamp around the axle and it doesnt make full contact with the inner bearing race on the disc side bearing .Take it apart yourself . Thats uneven load on that particular bearing. To me its a design flaw. So ive now got ceramic bearings. Ill see how they are. Ive had 2012 easton havoc wheels and never had this problem and design to keep contanimants out, easton has an outer seal before the bearings! With even loads to the bearings. I replaced them cuz i know the mavic st is lighter and heard they are a reputible company. I tired emailing them, no replay ,its been almost 1 month. Then i wanted to email them again, but that email address is NO longer available! Im a trail rider, flowing trails , some rock gardens , at times 2-3 foot drops. I ride a khs 555 bike, not all mountain. Notice the poor seal design for the rear axle also. Water can easly get in, So far no issue with rear bearing failure
  • 10-22-2013
    Lindahl
    Over 2 years, I had to true about 6 times and cracked a rim near the valve. I'm 170lbs on a Nomad, ride fast on rough trails and DH on occasion. I went with beefier wheels for this year and am happier with that decision.
  • 10-22-2013
    wilsonblur
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dogbane View Post
    Hi, guys

    I'm in the market for a light weight, yet durable wheelset for my Mojo HD. I saw a brand-new pair of Crossmax ST wheels for $560 and I know that's a screaming deal. I know the Crossmax ST wheels are more of a cross-country set, but I was wondering if anybody is usage them on their AM rigs. I'm 155 lbs and I like to hit some moderately big drops. The allure of these wheels is weight and price. Do you guys think I could make them work for aggressive AM riding? The claimed weight according to Mavic is 1590 grams. My alternative would be lacing hope pro 2 hubs to Stans ZTR hoops at about 1849 grams for $650. As always, any insight is greatly appreciated.:)

    My buddy runs the Crossmax ST on his Nomad C and loves them. He's very smooth and about 180lbs. He's a great rider and hits all the big stuff and logs tons of miles too. His Nomad C is 2.5lbs lighter than mine, running XX 1x10 with these wheels. It weighs in around 27.5lbs.
  • 10-22-2013
    patineto
    I had great luck with the Mavis's on my Nicolai for the last 4 years, I ride them pretty aggressive plus I weight about 240pounds.. http://patineto.smugmug.com/Bicycles...on%20001-M.jpg