what is the lightest all mountain bike?
Thats cool, derby. Now I dont feel so bad on my 32 lb AM bike, which actually is 7.5 lbsderby said:No one has broken or cracked the 5.7 lb Mojo frame yet. With 5.5 inch travel, easily fitting 2.5 inch tires, it would qualify in the longer half of the travel range of "all mountain" category.
Seems like many Mojo buyers posting on the Ibis forum are new to suspension and still in the weight conscious racer XC mode, so are running about 22.5 - 27 lbs with air suspension depending on component weight. And the Mojo can be set up to compete successfully at the pro XC level, (or pro DS, 4X, and some downhill courses that don't need 7+ inch travel.)
There are a few I know doing big drops crashing hard breaking components but not the frame.
Mine's 30.5 lbs with Vanilla RC coil shock and Nixon elite coil fork. Moderately heavy-duty DT Swiss 5.1D Hope Bulb wheels, and no categorically light components.
I may have the heaviest carbon frame mountain bike in the world! It is certainly appears to be one of the strongest frames in the world.
I am very happy with the Pace fighter pairing to Vanilla RC coil on my Mojo. I think mine is a little heavier than 30.5lbs at the moment because I have a maveric speedball seatpost equipped. (it gets swapped in any out depending on the area I am riding)derby said:No one has broken or cracked the 5.7 lb Mojo frame yet. With 5.5 inch travel, easily fitting 2.5 inch tires, it would qualify in the longer half of the travel range of "all mountain" category.
Seems like many Mojo buyers posting on the Ibis forum are new to suspension and still in the weight conscious racer XC mode, so are running about 22.5 - 27 lbs with air suspension depending on component weight. And the Mojo can be set up to compete successfully at the pro XC level, (or pro DS, 4X, and some downhill courses that don't need 7+ inch travel.)
There are a few I know doing big drops crashing hard breaking components but not the frame.
Mine's 30.5 lbs with Vanilla RC coil shock and Nixon elite coil fork. Moderately heavy-duty DT Swiss 5.1D Hope Bulb wheels, and no categorically light components.
I may have the heaviest carbon frame mountain bike in the world! It is certainly appears to be one of the strongest frames in the world.
Quite the contrary, a Mojo is a waste on anything "groomed" and excels with rough and technical challenges. As far as I can tell, every single person who has been lucky enough to thrash a Mojo on technical climbs and descents agrees with this, whether they are at Downieville CA, Butte CO, Moab UT, or any other wonderfully "all-mountain" place to ride (including those in other countries).Rivet said:Maybe, If all you ride are groomed trails, but that much travel usually indicates a bike that's gonna be ridden hard and I guarantee you can't ride a 24lb ibis Mojo like you can a 31lb Nomad, sh*ts gonna break.
Well, in continental Europe we use grams and kilograms (kg) and as you point out, a kilo is another way of writing 1000. An abbreviaton that is. We never use pounds.rm_racer said:why can't we use pounds? or when it gets over 1000gr at least use kg. it's like saying "my frame weighs 99.2oz. just say 6.2 pounds. it's weird. we measure brakes, wheels, shifting components, cranks, bbs, tires, bars, stems, and headsets in grams but we usually weigh forks, frames, shocks, and complete bikes in pounds.
for the record, that prophet = 2700g = 2.7kg = 5.9 pounds.
I couldnt agree more.SuperNewb said:Grams is XC racing and pounds is AM?
I ride the bike In my sig on all east coast terrain and I love it. The big travel and tires all come in handy. I even use the adjustable travel a lot. It has saved me on several long water bar climbs. I personally use every inch of travel on the drops and jumps I do. Maybe not during everyday trail riding but I take advantage of what a 6.5 inch 32 pound bike has to offer.heavyg said:I think it's a big span and clearly dependent on what you define as the lower limit of "all-mountain" riding.
I also believe it is highly terrain specific. To grossly over-generalize, I think that Western riders are more prone to want/need fatter, lower pressure tires, bigger brakes, burlier components, and more travel. I think a lot of this is driven by the more wide open, high speed, chunky downhills you guys enjoy. I also think West favors adjustable travel forks much more, as the climbs are often much more lengthy.
Me, an East Coaster, I can't imagine changing protective gear, seatpost height, and suspension setup before heading downhill. Our climbs and downhills, while steep and pretty challenging, are quite short and relatively low speed (generally max out at 22-23mph once or twice a ride for a few seconds.) If I had to change the setup for every climb, I'd be off the bike more than on it.
While I can see the "requirement" for burlier bikes out in the land of the big fast downhills, there are some of us who prefer a shorter travel bike with "wimpy" high pressure tires for difficult terrain. You just have to accept the compromise that you can't "attack" it on the downhill quite like you could with a Nomad (if you expect the bike to hold up).
Also, when your climbs are short and slow and you don't want to change the bike setup, bike weight and pedal bob are a lot more significant "problems" than if you can pump all the way up the mountain on the middle ring. It is much easier to clear an uphill waterbar on a 10% grade at 3 mph with a 26# 4" travel bike than with a 32# 6" travel bike.
As someone who has broken a few frames and has experimented heavily with 4-6" travel bikes on the same trails over the last few years, I can see the compromises with any of the options. Perhaps I have drifted out of the "All-mountain" category by the average opinion here, but I am still riding the same stuff (just a little less aggressively) on a 4", 27# bike (and loving it). I weigh 215, so I think a light "all-mountain" bike becomes even more valid for a 150 pounder.
Call it "heavy XC" or call it "trail", call it anything you want. But don't forget that not everyone has trails or skills that warrant big brakes, big tires and 30-40mph speed on a regular basis. Maybe our east coast version should be called "All-foothill riding" instead?