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  1. #151
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    I'll come back and fill in the stats, I just wanted to see if I could get this image posted.

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    If you go on the Jonesbikes website, you can see a nice clip of I believe Jeff Jones riding some pretty hardcore trail obstacles w/those H-bars, so I'd say they are deffinately an AM option if they suit you. Supposedly they are good for distributing wrist impact of drops too.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Glad you think it's a cool bike BUT...

    Quote Originally Posted by stiingya
    While I am sure you could AM with any set up if your really want to. I just can't bring myself to think of H-bars as "perfect" for all mountain. Perfect for cruisin, perfect for a bike that gets lots of road miles as well as dirt, perfect for your wrists probably? But IMO there more suited for road, or cross than pure dirt. Let alone AM. What's next moustache bars on your Tracer??

    Now I have to admit I have only sat on a bike with these bars. But they feel akin to mounting "clip-ons" from a sportbike and sticking them on a dirtbike to me...?

    Cool bike though!!!

    I think you need to ride on a set (on the right bike) or at the very least take a look at those pics/vid on the Jones website before you can make an educated opinion on them.

    They aren't going to be perfect for everyone, but I love them, and so do a lot of people. I don't do many road miles or any cruising either. I personally wouldn't put them on a geared/full suspension bike, they seem to suit SS, or HTs setup in a similar way to my Dekerf, so the risers will be staying on the Tracer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmtb87
    If you go on the Jonesbikes website, you can see a nice clip of I believe Jeff Jones riding some pretty hardcore trail obstacles w/those H-bars, so I'd say they are deffinately an AM option if they suit you. Supposedly they are good for distributing wrist impact of drops too.

    Oh yeah you are absolutely right, they allow the best weight distribution for any type of riding, and feel great for jumps and drops, allowing the front end to be lifted more easily and ultra comfort on the landings...

    You are definitely right there when you say that "if they suit you" because they wont suit everyone, but an open mind gets you half way there!
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    Marin Wolf Ridge

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    I guess this is more of an AXC/AM bike. I love the quad link...tho I kinda wish the head angle was a bit steeper at 5 and 6".

    * Frame Size & Color: Marin Wolf Ridge (Med), Coal
    * Fork: Vanilla RLC
    * Shock: Fox RP3
    * Brakes: Hayes 9 - 7" front, 6" rear
    * Cranks: Shimano XT
    * Shifters: XT 8spd
    * Front Derailleur: XT
    * Rear Derailleur: XT
    * Pedals: Shimano 540
    * Stem: Race Face Evolve XC
    * Handlebar: Race Face Deus XC
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    * Saddle: WTB Laser V
    * Bottom Bracket: ES-71
    * Cassette: XTR m-900 8 spd
    * Headset: Race Face Deus
    * Grips: Oury Lock On
    * Front Tire: WTB Velociraptor Race 2.1
    * Front Rim: Mavic Crossride
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Mavic/Hope
    * Rear Tire: Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1
    * Rear Rim: Mavic Crossride
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Mavic/Hope
    * Weight: 30 lb.

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    I prefer to think of it as "All-Mesa"

    * Frame Size & Color: 06 Banshee Chaparral - Medium
    * Fork: 06 66 RC2X
    * Brakes: Avid Juicy 5 8"/6"
    * Cranks: RaceFace NorthShore 22/30
    * Front Derailleur: XT Bottom Swing
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.7
    * Pedals: Wellgo B-27
    * Stem: FSA DH 300
    * Handlebar: Bontrager Earl
    * Seatpost: Titec Pryo Scoper
    * Saddle: Azonic Journey
    * Bottom Bracket: Truvativ Gigapipe DH
    * Cassette: XTR 11-34
    * Headset: King
    * Grips: ODI Rouge
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minion DHF 2.7 60d
    * Front Rim: DT Swiss FR 6.1
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Ancient Marzocchi Relic
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Minion DHF 2.7 60d
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss FR 6.1
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: DT Swiss Hugi FR 135
    * Weight: 42 pounds
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    * Frame Size & Color: SC KnowMad, Large, White
    * Fork: Marz 66RC2X
    * Brakes: Juicy Carbons
    * Cranks: RF Atlas
    * Front Derailleur: XT
    * Rear Derailleur: XT Med Cage
    * Pedals: XT
    * Stem: Currently a Husselfelt 70mm.
    * Handlebar: Deity
    * Seatpost: RF Dues
    * Saddle: Titec
    * Bottom Bracket: X-type RF Atlas
    * Cassette: XT
    * Headset: FSA Pig
    * Grips: ODI Rogue
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5"
    * Front Rim: Azonic Outlaw
    * Front Hub/Skewer: see above
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Minion DHR 2.5"
    * Rear Rim: Azonic Outlaw
    * Rear Hub/Skewer See above
    * Weight ~35lbs
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    Mine

    06 Sworks enduro small
    06 Pike 454 Dual Air (not as pictured)
    Crossmax XL
    Hutchinson 2.1 Spider UST
    Race face atlas with 959 pedals
    Thomson stem and post
    Easton OS carbon bars
    Sram X9 rear and shifters
    Sram front mech
    PC91 Hollow Pin chain
    WTB laser saddle
    ODI Ruffian grips
    Shimano XT Brakes + Levers
    <30lbs

    Perfect bike and with the pike forks superb value
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    ... and if we just ... My Titus ML

    Medium grey 2006 Titus Motolite
    RP3 rear shock
    Fox Talas RLC
    old style XT gruppo (from my previous bike-Santa Cruz SL)
    959 pedals
    Chris King/ Mavic 819
    Conti Vetrical Pro 2,3 Front/ Conti Explorer Pro 2,1 Rear (with or without Stan)
    Thompson SP
    Race Face Stem
    Monkey lite Bars, low riser
    Yetti lock on grips
    WTB Laser V
    Avid BB7 brakes (185F/ 160R)
    Weight: 28,5 pounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.P
    Probably less travel than most @4.5" but there isn't anywhere this badboy can't go, too much fun. And the DW link makes it a great climber too. Amazingly versitile. Good times every time I put a leg over.

    * Frame Size & Color: Iron Horse HollowPoint 04, custom valved/volumed Cane Creek AD5
    * Fork: Nixon comp 145, TPC(!)
    * Brakes: Hayes 9
    * Cranks: Race Face Evolve X-Type
    * Front Derailleur: XT
    * Rear Derailleur: XT
    * Pedals: Shimano 540
    * Stem: Thomson 80mm
    * Handlebar: Azonic WF 2" riser
    * Seatpost: Thomson
    * Saddle: WTB Laser Ti
    * Bottom Bracket: X
    * Cassette: LX
    * Headset: FSA
    * Grips: Ritchey (nice shape)
    * Front Tire: Specialized Adenaline/Resolution 2.0
    * Front Rim: Mavic XM321
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Woodman
    * Rear Tire: IRC Trailbear 2.25
    * Rear Rim: Mavic XM321
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Woodman
    * Weight ~31 lbs.
    Interesting set-up. My buddy has that same frame - It's impressive how burly the HP seems and how little it bobs when he stands to climb. How's does your HP climb with that fork? Why the skinnier tire on the front?

    Ant

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonio
    Interesting set-up. My buddy has that same frame - It's impressive how burly the HP seems and how little it bobs when he stands to climb.
    Yep, I'm a stander and masher (SS habit) and the DW-link does me right with very little bob. The shock I have has no platform valving and little low speed compression too! In the Iron Horse forums, there is another rider racing the same frame and he used an 80mm SPV fork. Quite an all arounder. But that is why I went to the bigger fork - to slacken the HTA, and it has worked like a champ. I have the TPC Nixon and with compression set to full is like SPV set a little above minimum (1" bob) - but I get to turn down the compression for the downs The tall fork is a bit wandery on climbs.

    Quote Originally Posted by antonio
    How's does your HP climb with that fork? Why the skinnier tire on the front?

    Ant
    The 2.0 Specialized tire is more like a 2.3, while the Trailbear 2.25 is more like a 2.1. Go figure. I really like both tires. I am trying some lower rolling resistance tires right now (Continental gravity/Diesel), but I think the Trailbear is the better tire in back, no experience for the front yet.

    Have you bud check this posting of HollowPoint pics, and stop by the Iron horse forum to say hello, there are good peeps there (DW, The Man, posts too) :
    New Hollowpoint Photo Thread....Seeking Photos of your Rigs

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  12. #162
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    It's all all-mountain, baby!

    * Frame Size & Color: '04 Voodoo Dambala 20"
    * Fork:Pace RC29
    * Brakes:Hope Enduro 4 w/custom rotors
    * Cranks:Truvativ ss
    * Front Derailleur:
    * Rear Derailleur:
    * Pedals:Time Atac Alium
    * Stem:Titec lil Al
    * Handlebar:Easton carbon Monkeylight
    * Seatpost:Ritchey boat anchor
    * Saddle:Vintage Bontrager by San Marco
    * Bottom Bracket:Bontrger ISIS
    * Cassette: single cog either Shimano or custom laser cut
    * Headset:FSA
    * Grips:ODI lock-on
    * Front Tire:Specialized Fastrak 29
    * Front Rim:Mavic Open Pro
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Bonty hub and Vintage Campy skewer w/green rubber covered lever
    * Rear Tire:Specialized Fastrak 29
    * Rear Rim:Mavic Open Pro
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Woodman ss cassette hub, bolt on
    * Weight: 26lbs

    That's all I have to ride the mountain with, so it's my all mountain.
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    whatever gives you the thrills is OK by me.

    that looks like a mighty fine bicycle ya got there!
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    Jamis XLT

    - '05 XLT 19" (Jenson)
    - Pike
    - Azonic/AC Bar/Stem
    - Rhyno XL - Heavy Tires
    - Hollzfeller - E13 DRS guide
    - XT/Hone
    - 8" Avid mechi's F&R

    Great bike, a little on the heavy end but still very rideable uphill...love the pike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by edoz
    * Rear Rim:Mavic Open Pro

    * Weight: 26lbs
    How did you add up to 26 with Open Pro rims and no gears? Seems like it would be lighter.

    AM is in the skill, nice ride.

    Mr. P

  16. #166
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    Nice San Andreas

    I love my San Andreas. I am working to get it built back up. I've tried all the new fancy frames, owned quite a few, and you can't beat the simplicity, naturally stable platform design, and the versitility and lightness of the San Andreas. Plus, it's so ugly, it gets tons of looks out on the trail. All those other frames are a dime a dozen.

    I just got a used swingarm to get this built up again. I just may get an annodized one like your if one ever comes up for sale on the bay.
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    Boat anchor parts. The rear hub weighs 650gr, and the seatpost weighs a pound even. The front hub is pretty porky, as well. I could drop a pound and a quarter with Chris King hubs, but I haven't spent the money yet. Of course, I have a set of lights that weighs 2 pounds and I can't tell the difference with or without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAnMan
    I love my San Andreas. I am working to get it built back up. I've tried all the new fancy frames, owned quite a few, and you can't beat the simplicity, naturally stable platform design, and the versitility and lightness of the San Andreas. Plus, it's so ugly, it gets tons of looks out on the trail. All those other frames are a dime a dozen.

    I just got a used swingarm to get this built up again. I just may get an annodized one like your if one ever comes up for sale on the bay.
    haha...when i was looking for a frame i was trying to decide between the marin wolf ridge and san andreas. i was pretty sold on all the features that the san andreas had, but i just couldn't get over how ugly it looked...kinda looks like a horse haha. though i bet it rides great

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    yeti asx

    This is a old picture of my asx will update with new picture soon makes a great AM bike.
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    Here's mine...

    Heckler!
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    * Frame Size & Color: Whyte 46
    * Fork:Maverick DUC32
    * Brakes:Hope Mini M4 with Goodrich braided hoses
    * Cranks:XT
    * Front Derailleur: XT
    * Rear Derailleur: XT
    * Pedals:Crankbrothers
    * Stem:integrated Maverick
    * Handlebar:Easton carbon Monkeylight
    * Seatpost:Easton EC70
    * Saddle:SLR XC
    * Bottom Bracket:XT Hollowtech
    * Cassette: XT
    * Headset:Cane Creek
    * Grips:WTB werewolf
    * Front Tire:Kenda Nevegal foldable 2.35
    * Front Rim:Mavic717
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Maverick 24mm thru axle
    * Rear Tire: IRC
    * Rear Rim: Mavic 717
    Rear Hub:Hope XC with Whyte Big Grippers
    Weight: 28.8lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAnMan
    I love my San Andreas. I am working to get it built back up. I've tried all the new fancy frames, owned quite a few, and you can't beat the simplicity, naturally stable platform design, and the versitility and lightness of the San Andreas. Plus, it's so ugly, it gets tons of looks out on the trail. All those other frames are a dime a dozen.

    I just got a used swingarm to get this built up again. I just may get an annodized one like your if one ever comes up for sale on the bay.

    ...I rocked the San Andreas for a couple years. It was a fun bike & could be built realtively lightweight. For it's time, it was light years ahead of the industry....however, I just could never get around the pedal feedback on it, especially in technical climbing situations, that baby can buck!


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    Another Heckler

    * Frame Size & Color: Orange Santa Cruz Heckler Manitou Swinger 4-Way Air M 05
    * Fork: Manitou Minute 2:00 130mm
    * Brakes: LX hydro
    * Cranks: LX
    * Front Derailleur: LX
    * Rear Derailleur: XT
    * Pedals: NRG
    * Stem: Easton vice
    * Handlebar: Easton EA 50
    * Seatpost: Easton EA 50
    * Saddle: WTB
    * Bottom Bracket: LX I think
    * Cassette: LX I think
    * Headset: Cane Creek Aheadset
    * Grips: ODI Rouge lock on
    * Front Tire: Kenda Nevegal 2.1
    * Front Rim: Mavic 717 XC
    * Front Hub/Skewer: LX
    * Rear Tire: Kenda Nevegal 2.1
    * Rear Rim: Mavic 717 XC
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: LX
    * Weight: around 30 LBS
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  24. #174
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    singletrack-your Banshee gets my vote for the sweetest AM/FR rig. I was just looking at those after finding a crack in the head tube of my Bullit. Those looks sooooo nice...

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