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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    what does being a clyde have to do with stem length?
    Because at 6'7" I'm wondering how "cramped" the cockpit is. My RFX has a 26.3" TT and I'm able to use a 50mm stem. On my XXL Stumpy I needed a 100mm stem.
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    The stumpy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    what does being a clyde have to do with stem length?
    Quote Originally Posted by digthemlows View Post
    Because at 6'7" I'm wondering how "cramped" the cockpit is. My RFX has a 26.3" TT and I'm able to use a 50mm stem. On my XXL Stumpy I needed a 100mm stem.
    That's a height problem, not a clyde problem. Although, I guess you could also be a clyde.
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    Mondraker adjusts for the short stem by increasing top tube. Overcompensates a little, it looks like
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    It doesn't overcompensate, but it does look like the HA is slacker then anything else in it's travel class.
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    Mondraker has extended 6 cm top tube to compensate a 10mm stem, the tt=660cm
    the head angle with the lyrik is about 66/66,5 and the seat angle is 73
    Before, I had a dune rr and this is more stable and manageable, two opposing concepts united by the new geometry
    I don't want to know anything about normal geometries, the forward geometry is amazing and makes everything easier

    sorry for my english

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    How come others aren't adopting it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    How come others aren't adopting it?
    Well they kind of are, but in a very drawn out process. We've gone from a 120mm stem being normal, to anything over a 50mm being 'wrong' on an OE spec bike.

    The 10mm stem and longer wheelbase is mirroring what you already get on MX bikes, so we know it works (and just like disc brakes, oil damped suspension and multi-compound tyres, what works for MX does work for MTBs), it's just going to take a while for the industry and buyers to catch up with the physics.

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    I'd love to try one............with a 50mm stem!! :-)
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    Santa Cruz Nickle

    This is my first full suspension bike and my first build. The color is off when I post these photos to the forum, the rims and the lettering on the downtube are bright florescent green.


    * Frame Size & Color: Santa Cruz Nickle, White, Small
    * Fork: RockShox Revelation RLT Ti
    * Brakes: Shimano SLX
    * Cranks: Shimano Deore
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X9
    * Pedals: Wellgo B132
    * Stem: 70mm Truvativ AKA
    * Handlebar: Truvativ Stylo WC
    * Seatpost: Truvativ AKA
    * Saddle: Fizik Nisene Sport
    * Cassette: Sram PG980
    * Headset: Cane Creek
    * Grips: ODI
    * Tires: WTB 2.3 Moto
    * Rims: Velocity Blunts (old model set up for tubeless)
    * Hubs: Shimano XT
    * Weight: 29lbs
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    Looking at the medium Dune Mondraker lengthened the reach by the plus side of 60 mm compared to avrage for a typical med. with older geo, and have a 10 mm stem . So it would feel teh same a s a typical medium with a 70 mm stem (60 +10). Most riders I know run no larger than a 50 mm stem, 60 tops, on that kind of bike. So in my humble opinion, and just for my sizing, a med with a 10 mm stem would feel a little long. But I know im just splitting hairs here, one doesnt know till one sits on the bike. And maybe i dont know WTF im talking about because this new geo has new effects. Perhaps with the longer front center, its ok having a longer cockpit because you are that much further behind the wheel for more stability and less "OTB" feeling and I imagine it might be necessary to help weight the front wheel in turns. FWIW, I really like this new geo concept. Im 5'8" and was stuck between a small and med Transition Blindside. i ended up getting a med with a 30 mm stem, which is getting close to mondrakers "forward"geo concept. Feels awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.Montana View Post
    The stumpy!
    Awesome bike love the way you have it set up!!!! Is that a 12 or 13 comp 26

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    2011 Kona Coilair

    My newly built Kona Coilair. Switched all the parts over from my KHS Velvet. Only two rides so far, but am loving how plush it feels. Weighed in at 29lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeboy89 View Post
    Awesome bike love the way you have it set up!!!! Is that a 12 or 13 comp 26
    Its a 12 comp I have just sold the bike(picked up a expert evo carbon 2013 today) with the original parts, damn its fugly without the sx wheels
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    Good gravy! So, you're a tall fellow?

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    or supermodel legs.
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    "M.C. for what I AM and do, the A is for Adam and the lyrics; true"

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    A tall fellow with supermodel legs is pretty spot on. Well with a past as a serious roadie its kinda supermodel body

    The pictures are taken right after i got it home, so havent been fideling with seat hight

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    I thought that was a dropper post, not a riser post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.Montana View Post
    Its a 12 comp I have just sold the bike(picked up a expert evo carbon 2013 today) with the original parts, damn its fugly without the sx wheels
    Very nice!!! I'm thinking about getting a 13 black stumpy comp 26 with my tax return and would be interested in how your EVO climbs compared to the regular stumpy. If it's not to noticeably much worse I might get the EVO. I would like the way it descends but don't want to give up to much on the climbing for the type of riding I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzd View Post
    My newly built beast!

    Frame: Canyon Torque 2012
    Fork: Fox 36 Talas 180mm/140mm
    Rear Shock: Fox DHX Air 5.0
    Wheelset: Mavic Crossmax SX
    Rear Derailleur: Sram X0
    Front Derailleur: Sram X0
    Shifters: Sram X0
    Crankset: X0 22-36
    Rear Cassette: Sram 11-36t PG1091r
    Seatpost: KS Lev
    Saddle: SQlab 611 Active
    Handle Bar: Easton Haven
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    Tires: Schwalbe Muddy Mary 2.35
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    That Canyon Torque....That is one sweeeet bike? Hows the pedalling efficiency? What are you coming from? I currently own an FB and have been seriously contemplating the torque. I would love to hear your review of the bike. Is it 650b compatible?

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    My '12 Shaver...

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-FXR View Post
    There is perfection and bike nirvana!!!!

    Havoc carbon bars
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    XT Ice rotors 180mm
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    Very Nice Build!! Bet it's a blast!!
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    ^ Mammoth Mountain?
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    My AM rig, at 26 lbs, cant complain, coming from 32.5 lbs beast. Now I need to ride some gnarly stuff.






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