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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    what does being a clyde have to do with stem length?
    Because at 6'7" I'm wondering how "cramped" the cockpit is. My RFX has a 26.3" TT and I'm able to use a 50mm stem. On my XXL Stumpy I needed a 100mm stem.
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    The stumpy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    what does being a clyde have to do with stem length?
    Quote Originally Posted by digthemlows View Post
    Because at 6'7" I'm wondering how "cramped" the cockpit is. My RFX has a 26.3" TT and I'm able to use a 50mm stem. On my XXL Stumpy I needed a 100mm stem.
    That's a height problem, not a clyde problem. Although, I guess you could also be a clyde.

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    Mondraker adjusts for the short stem by increasing top tube. Overcompensates a little, it looks like
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    It doesn't overcompensate, but it does look like the HA is slacker then anything else in it's travel class.

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    Mondraker has extended 6 cm top tube to compensate a 10mm stem, the tt=660cm
    the head angle with the lyrik is about 66ļ/66,5ļ and the seat angle is 73ļ
    Before, I had a dune rr and this is more stable and manageable, two opposing concepts united by the new geometry
    I don't want to know anything about normal geometries, the forward geometry is amazing and makes everything easier

    sorry for my english

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    How come others aren't adopting it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    How come others aren't adopting it?
    Well they kind of are, but in a very drawn out process. We've gone from a 120mm stem being normal, to anything over a 50mm being 'wrong' on an OE spec bike.

    The 10mm stem and longer wheelbase is mirroring what you already get on MX bikes, so we know it works (and just like disc brakes, oil damped suspension and multi-compound tyres, what works for MX does work for MTBs), it's just going to take a while for the industry and buyers to catch up with the physics.

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    I'd love to try one............with a 50mm stem!! :-)
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    Santa Cruz Nickle

    This is my first full suspension bike and my first build. The color is off when I post these photos to the forum, the rims and the lettering on the downtube are bright florescent green.


    * Frame Size & Color: Santa Cruz Nickle, White, Small
    * Fork: RockShox Revelation RLT Ti
    * Brakes: Shimano SLX
    * Cranks: Shimano Deore
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X9
    * Pedals: Wellgo B132
    * Stem: 70mm Truvativ AKA
    * Handlebar: Truvativ Stylo WC
    * Seatpost: Truvativ AKA
    * Saddle: Fizik Nisene Sport
    * Cassette: Sram PG980
    * Headset: Cane Creek
    * Grips: ODI
    * Tires: WTB 2.3 Moto
    * Rims: Velocity Blunts (old model set up for tubeless)
    * Hubs: Shimano XT
    * Weight: 29lbs
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    Looking at the medium Dune Mondraker lengthened the reach by the plus side of 60 mm compared to avrage for a typical med. with older geo, and have a 10 mm stem . So it would feel teh same a s a typical medium with a 70 mm stem (60 +10). Most riders I know run no larger than a 50 mm stem, 60 tops, on that kind of bike. So in my humble opinion, and just for my sizing, a med with a 10 mm stem would feel a little long. But I know im just splitting hairs here, one doesnt know till one sits on the bike. And maybe i dont know WTF im talking about because this new geo has new effects. Perhaps with the longer front center, its ok having a longer cockpit because you are that much further behind the wheel for more stability and less "OTB" feeling and I imagine it might be necessary to help weight the front wheel in turns. FWIW, I really like this new geo concept. Im 5'8" and was stuck between a small and med Transition Blindside. i ended up getting a med with a 30 mm stem, which is getting close to mondrakers "forward"geo concept. Feels awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.Montana View Post
    The stumpy!
    Awesome bike love the way you have it set up!!!! Is that a 12 or 13 comp 26

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    2011 Kona Coilair

    My newly built Kona Coilair. Switched all the parts over from my KHS Velvet. Only two rides so far, but am loving how plush it feels. Weighed in at 29lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeboy89 View Post
    Awesome bike love the way you have it set up!!!! Is that a 12 or 13 comp 26
    Its a 12 comp I have just sold the bike(picked up a expert evo carbon 2013 today) with the original parts, damn its fugly without the sx wheels
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    Good gravy! So, you're a tall fellow?

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    or supermodel legs.
    RIP Adam Yauch

    "M.C. for what I AM and do, the A is for Adam and the lyrics; true"

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    A tall fellow with supermodel legs is pretty spot on. Well with a past as a serious roadie its kinda supermodel body

    The pictures are taken right after i got it home, so havent been fideling with seat hight

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    I thought that was a dropper post, not a riser post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.Montana View Post
    Its a 12 comp I have just sold the bike(picked up a expert evo carbon 2013 today) with the original parts, damn its fugly without the sx wheels
    Very nice!!! I'm thinking about getting a 13 black stumpy comp 26 with my tax return and would be interested in how your EVO climbs compared to the regular stumpy. If it's not to noticeably much worse I might get the EVO. I would like the way it descends but don't want to give up to much on the climbing for the type of riding I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzd View Post
    My newly built beast!

    Frame: Canyon Torque 2012
    Fork: Fox 36 Talas 180mm/140mm
    Rear Shock: Fox DHX Air 5.0
    Wheelset: Mavic Crossmax SX
    Rear Derailleur: Sram X0
    Front Derailleur: Sram X0
    Shifters: Sram X0
    Crankset: X0 22-36
    Rear Cassette: Sram 11-36t PG1091r
    Seatpost: KS Lev
    Saddle: SQlab 611 Active
    Handle Bar: Easton Haven
    Stem: Easton Haven
    Tires: Schwalbe Muddy Mary 2.35
    Handlebar grips: Race face Strafe
    Pedals: DMRBIKES Vault





    That Canyon Torque....That is one sweeeet bike? Hows the pedalling efficiency? What are you coming from? I currently own an FB and have been seriously contemplating the torque. I would love to hear your review of the bike. Is it 650b compatible?

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    My '12 Shaver...

    There is perfection and bike nirvana!!!!





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    XTR brakes
    XT Ice rotors 180mm
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    XT front/rear derailleur
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-FXR View Post
    There is perfection and bike nirvana!!!!

    Havoc carbon bars
    Thomson Stem 90mm no rise
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    XTR brakes
    XT Ice rotors 180mm
    XT cranks 2x10
    XT rear cog
    XT front/rear derailleur
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    Very Nice Build!! Bet it's a blast!!
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    ^ Mammoth Mountain?

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    My AM rig, at 26 lbs, cant complain, coming from 32.5 lbs beast. Now I need to ride some gnarly stuff.






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    Quote Originally Posted by digthemlows View Post
    Very Nice Build!! Bet it's a blast!!
    As unbiased as I can be..... it's a blast on everything! I've yet to get back on my ol trusty FXR since I've got this. Extremely steep inclines are a bit tougher with the 67 degree HT, but she flies faster than my eyesight can keep up with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    ^ Mammoth Mountain?
    Yes off one of the best trails imho (Skid Marks) headed down to Lincoln express to 7 bridges to shot gun on that particular run.
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    [QUOTE=inter;9943552]My AM rig, at 26 lbs, cant complain, coming from 32.5 lbs beast. Now I need to ride some gnarly stuff.

    While I'm biased towards the Foes lines....the Mojo is a sweet lookin' frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post

    Great rig - although the stem's kinda long. You sure you need it that long? haha.

    Anyways, is that chainguide a blackspire? Need something like that. Looks cool too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-FXR View Post
    Yes off one of the best trails imho (Skid Marks) headed down to Lincoln express to 7 bridges to shot gun on that particular run.
    I've stood right where you took that picture!

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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    Great rig - although the stem's kinda long. You sure you need it that long? haha.

    Anyways, is that chainguide a blackspire? Need something like that. Looks cool too.
    Thx. Im looking for 60mm stem actually. It comes with 100mm, too long.
    The chainguide actually 2 blackspire stingers, one for top one bottom. They works!
    Plus BBG bash.

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    Frame: Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc 2012
    Fork: Fox 34 Float 140mm
    Rear Shock: Fox Float RP23
    Wheelset: WTB Frequency Team i23 TCS rims laced to DT 350 hubs
    Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO XTR Shadow Plus
    Front Derailleur, Shifters, Crankset, Rear Cassette: Shimano XT
    Brakes: Shimano XT w/ 180mm front 160mm rear Ice Tech rotors
    Flat Pedals: Canfield Brothers Crampon Classic
    Clipless Pedals : XT (shown)
    Seatpost: KS Lev
    Saddle: WTB Volt Pro
    Front Tire: Schwalbe Hans Dampf Trailstar 2.35 (tubeless)
    Rear Tire: Schwalbe Hans Dampf Pacestar 2.35 (tubeless)
    Handle Bar: Easton Haven 711mm
    Stem: TruVativ AKA, 70mm
    Handlebar grips: ODI Ruffian Lock-On

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    Havoc carbon bars
    Thomson Stem 90mm no rise
    Gravity Dropper seatpost
    XTR brakes
    XT Ice rotors 180mm
    XT cranks 2x10
    XT rear cog
    XT front/rear derailleur
    XTR Shifter pods
    Mavic CrossMax STís
    Chris King headset
    Fox Talas 160mm forks
    WTB Team Bronson tires
    ODI Ruffion grips[/QUOTE]

    I ve seen red color foes before, beautiful bike. This grey one u have is beautiful as well, looks fast on downhill. Just an idea, you should take off the GD boot. Ive been using my GD turbo without the boot for 2 years. No problemo.

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    [QUOTE=shredjunkie;9945525]Frame: Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc 2012
    Fork: Fox 34 Float 140mm
    Rear Shock: Fox Float RP23
    Wheelset: WTB Frequency Team i23 TCS rims laced to DT 350 hubs
    Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO XTR Shadow Plus
    Front Derailleur, Shifters, Crankset, Rear Cassette: Shimano XT
    Brakes: Shimano XT w/ 180mm front 160mm rear Ice Tech rotors
    Flat Pedals: Canfield Brothers Crampon Classic
    Clipless Pedals : XT (shown)
    Seatpost: KS Lev
    Saddle: WTB Volt Pro
    Front Tire: Schwalbe Hans Dampf Trailstar 2.4
    Rear Tire: Schwalbe Hans Dampf Pacestar 2.4
    Handle Bar: Easton Haven 711mm
    Stem: TruVativ AKA, 60mm, 70mm
    Handlebar grips: ODI Ruffian Lock-On

    Sweet bike. Seems like u have 2 stems on the list..haha..
    Those 2.4 wheels looks heavy though. How they perform?
    Btw, what is the bike weight if u dont mind sharing.

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    Thanks! Yes, only one stem on this bike, updated my post. Total bike weight with this configuration is 29.5. The Hans Dampf 2.4's (2.35 really) are a tad heavy, but so worth it for winter conditions here in Northern California. I also have a set of Stans Crest rims laced to Chris King hubs with tubeless Maxxis Icons for my XC configuration, which takes the bike down 2 lbs to 27.5 lbs.
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    Bike all done, no more upgrades (we all know that's not true).



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    treestump what size is that yeti, and how tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madtreesman View Post
    treestump what size is that yeti, and how tall are you?
    It's a medium and I'm about 180cm (5'11"). Fits me well with the 50mm stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredjunkie View Post
    Frame: Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc 2012
    Fork: Fox 34 Float 140mm
    Rear Shock: Fox Float RP23
    Wheelset: WTB Frequency Team i23 TCS rims laced to DT 350 hubs
    Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO XTR Shadow Plus
    Front Derailleur, Shifters, Crankset, Rear Cassette: Shimano XT
    Brakes: Shimano XT w/ 180mm front 160mm rear Ice Tech rotors
    Flat Pedals: Canfield Brothers Crampon Classic
    Clipless Pedals : XT (shown)
    Seatpost: KS Lev
    Saddle: WTB Volt Pro
    Front Tire: Schwalbe Hans Dampf Trailstar 2.35 (tubeless)
    Rear Tire: Schwalbe Hans Dampf Pacestar 2.35 (tubeless)
    Handle Bar: Easton Haven 711mm
    Stem: TruVativ AKA, 70mm
    Handlebar grips: ODI Ruffian Lock-On

    Nice setup! I'm thinking about bying the same bike with almost the same setup but I'm a little unsure what size to buy. I'm 6 feet tall and am now riding on a Medium 18" Kona Cadabra. According to Santa Cruz fitting-page a Medium is to small for me and that I should buy a Large. I like small bikes, but not too small. How tall are you and what size is your bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geir View Post
    Nice setup! I'm thinking about bying the same bike with almost the same setup but I'm a little unsure what size to buy. I'm 6 feet tall and am now riding on a Medium 18" Kona Cadabra. According to Santa Cruz fitting-page a Medium is to small for me and that I should buy a Large. I like small bikes, but not too small. How tall are you and what size is your bike?
    I'm just 3/4" over six feet, and the large is a perfect fit. I never considered a medium, but did test ride the XL, which felt comfortable in a cruiser bike sort of way but did not have the same shredable feel as the large. I seem to remember hearing that when SC and other companies design a carbon bike, they typically do most of the R&D and testing using a large frame layup, and then modify the layup to product the other sizes late in the game. I could be wrong, but I think this means that often the large size ends up having the most optimized geometry.

    All that said, if you prefer a smaller frame as it sounds like you do, I would test ride both a medium and a large if you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geir View Post
    Nice setup! I'm thinking about bying the same bike with almost the same setup but I'm a little unsure what size to buy. I'm 6 feet tall and am now riding on a Medium 18" Kona Cadabra. According to Santa Cruz fitting-page a Medium is to small for me and that I should buy a Large. I like small bikes, but not too small. How tall are you and what size is your bike?
    demoed a tblt. im 6' and it felt perfect.

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    Here's my new ride. It's a Banshee Rune V2 with a Lyric 170 RC2DH, Elka shock, sram x7 1x10, xt brakes, Spank Subrosa rims on Hope Pro 2 Evo hubs, Pro Taper 780mm bars, and a Gravity Dropper.
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    Those banshees are pretty impressive I have been looking hard at the rune

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    demoed a tblt. im 6' and it felt perfect.
    Its a bit early for me here in sweden so maybe I'm not quite wake yet But what does "tblt" mean?

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    ^tallboy long travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    ^tallboy long travel
    Aha What size was the bike?

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    some of these bikes are just amazing, Keep the good work up guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    ^tallboy long travel
    Tallboy love long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geir View Post
    Aha What size was the bike?
    ahaha brainfart! it was a large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I've stood right where you took that picture!
    This pic is the same spot with my FXR.

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    Havoc carbon bars
    Thomson Stem 90mm no rise
    Gravity Dropper seatpost
    XTR brakes
    XT Ice rotors 180mm
    XT cranks 2x10
    XT rear cog
    XT front/rear derailleur
    XTR Shifter pods
    Mavic CrossMax STís
    Chris King headset
    Fox Talas 160mm forks
    WTB Team Bronson tires
    ODI Ruffion grips
    I ve seen red color foes before, beautiful bike. This grey one u have is beautiful as well, looks fast on downhill. Just an idea, you should take off the GD boot. Ive been using my GD turbo without the boot for 2 years. No problemo.[/QUOTE]

    The Shaver is a raw colored frame. The attached FXR is the anodized gray color...fyi
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