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    Lets here it for the AM / FR drink of choice

    I just wanted to take a moment amongst all the “what to buy… oh god help” posts and just give a little love to the drink the fuels so many questionable rides…

    The one, the only, Nectar of the gods… (All) Mountain Dew.

    Go ahead and post some love.
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    Mountain Dew sucks. It tastes BAD.

    Try some freakin water.


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    Mountain Dew FTW!!!!! Also Sobe Adrenaline Rush are fantastic as well, although i never drink these things when i ride, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29Colossus

    Try some freakin water.


    mmmmm.... water....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 29Colossus
    Mountain Dew sucks. It tastes BAD.

    Try some freakin water.

    not so much the heath angle... but the mysical powers of the Dew i what i was going for.


    thanks for the "love"
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    Mountain Dew was back in the early 90s when everyone wanted to have a mountain bike hanging up INSIDE their apartment because the saw it on Seinfeld and 'Dew was the cool drink.

    These days, it's all about the Rockstar, but I'm sure I'm behind the times too.
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    What is wrong with beer?

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    Coor’s tall cans gave me the courage to go for my first sketchy singletrack rides down Mt. Tam before the trails were closed 25 years ago.

    We’d wrap them in aluminum foil to insulate for the climb up. 1 was plenty and not too much after a hot climb to catch the sunset. Then bomb down Huckleberry and Hoo Koo E Koo and S-Trail into Madrone Canyon and home nearby.

    Energy drinks? Coffee before a ride sometimes.

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    What could possibly be a more appropriate all mountain drink?
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    As an overseas poster, is this Mountain Dew that people keep mentioning? I'd always assumed it was another variant of Sprite or 7-Up (i.e. sugar and clear carbonated water, no flavouring). Is it something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble
    As an overseas poster, is this Mountain Dew that people keep mentioning? I'd always assumed it was another variant of Sprite or 7-Up (i.e. sugar and clear carbonated water, no flavouring). Is it something else?
    It is another variant of Sprite or 7-Up, just like AM is a variant of XC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwirider
    It is another variant of Sprite or 7-Up, just like AM is a variant of XC.

    Noooo! You should be burnt for such heresy- AM is completely different from XC. You gotta have special bikes, special saddles and even special derailleur adjustment screws to ride AM. And you know this is true, 'cause there's even a special "All Mountain" MTBR forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble
    Noooo! You should be burnt for such heresy- AM is completely different from XC. You gotta have special bikes, special saddles and even special derailleur adjustment screws to ride AM. And you know this is true, 'cause there's even a special "All Mountain" MTBR forum

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    Just drink Coke. Coke Zero if you believe those commercials.
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    The ultimate AM softdrink......

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    Mounatin Dew is paved bike path compared to this stuff: The REAL AM beverage.

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    Water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiredgun
    What could possibly be a more appropriate all mountain drink?
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    Fill your Camelback (bladder) with ice and water, stuff a Red Bull next to it to keep it cool. . . don't forget the cooler full of Newcastle for the post-ride afterglow. . .

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    2nd that!!!

    I second empty's suggestion. I like Red Bull, along with water. I also like a post ride micro brew. However, I am off the wagon this month (seeing if I can drop a few lbs) so I will not be enjoying one until a few months go by.
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    for actual riding it's gotta be water. for after the ride, mountain dew or any "energy drink" will do.

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    Okay, I'll crack. I suppose I'll share the secret family recipe.

    1 part Mtn. Dew
    2 parts random cow carcass bits (only after hucking said cow)
    1 part Red Bull
    1/4 part HEED from Hammer Nutrition
    1/2 part badger urine (3 days old kept in a hot car)
    2 parts contaminated city river water unfiltered
    Ginseng (however much you f%$#@ want @$$hole)

    Stick in a blender and puree for 3-5 seconds leaving a slightly coarse texture to tickle the throat as you suck it down like a true AM champ.

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    as homer would put it mmmmmmmm beeeeeer!!!!!

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    WOW!!! Nobody drinks Powerade or Gatorade anymore? I try and take one of those and a bunch of water.

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    oh yeah, forgot aboot that stuff. yeah, gatorade is a good drink of choice for when we're workin on the mountain. get a big ol' bajilion pack and drive up to the trail. weird, as it seems like a good during-ride drink, but i never use it on rides. i just keep going for water. but water's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtails Are Better
    Mounatin Dew is paved bike path compared to this stuff: The REAL AM beverage.

    I was waiting for that.
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    Water or a White Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenraptor
    I was waiting for that.
    Damn, I guess I'm getting predictable.

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    Wow, I clicked on this thread saying "how about gatorade" and the post I see suggests it. Hah, infact I am drinking gatorade rain right now. It is good. But water is the best thing you can take, regardless of what you think.

    The soda's, energy drinks, beer, etc all weigh you down and if anything make you tired a lot faster. Also, don't swallow because the liquid will slosh around in your stomach and give you cramps. (usually for runners or sports, but it can still happen just moving around)

    The best thing you can do is take some filtered water and swish it in your mouth when your mouth/throat is dry, let a bit trickle down, and spit it out.

    The other drinks all have additives to make them what they are. For example High Fructose corn syrup (if you've actually seen what it looks like, if not it looks like clear goupy goo) that will certainly slow you down.
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    Im a water fan myself and if Im out for a while and sweating alot Ill pop an electrolyte tablet. Sometimes Ill bring gatorade (powder mix) since its not made with alot of high fructose corn syrup.
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    It depends. Before the ride - tea with mint and lemon. During the ride - water. After the ride - dry muscat. Instead of the ride - alcohol 95% at 18 C below the zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UmbrousSoul
    Also, don't swallow because the liquid will slosh around in your stomach and give you cramps. (usually for runners or sports, but it can still happen just moving around)

    The best thing you can do is take some filtered water and swish it in your mouth when your mouth/throat is dry, let a bit trickle down, and spit it out.
    uh.... what you're suggesting is a one way ticket to dehydrationville

    sugar free rockstar is my drink of choice, AM or otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMongoose
    uh.... what you're suggesting is a one way ticket to dehydrationville

    sugar free rockstar is my drink of choice, AM or otherwise.
    Thats what I was thinking, this would work if you were riding for maybey 30min or less but you definitely need to rehydrate your system.
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    I never said dehydrate yourself, infact I will qoute myself since you didn't seem to read it yourself and jumped to conclusions.

    "don't swallow because the liquid will slosh around in your stomach and give you cramps. (usually for runners or sports, but it can still happen just moving around)

    The best thing you can do is take some filtered water and swish it in your mouth when your mouth/throat is dry, let a bit trickle down, and spit it out."


    I am not saying do not drink anything and spit it out if you do. I am simply saying don't chug water because it will give you cramps in your sides. What I meant by "let a bit trickle down" was let some of the water be swallowed, but not the entire chug. This is simply a sports thing to keep you in the game and not cramping from sloshing water in your stomach. It is impossible to dehydrate with this method, because technically you are still drinking water. Do I have to mention that your mouth has glands that also "collect"?
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    Vitamin energy and water with a little ginger an honey.
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    If you want to ride better, skip soda and put some Accelerade in your resevoir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMongoose
    uh.... what you're suggesting is a one way ticket to dehydrationville

    sugar free rockstar is my drink of choice, AM or otherwise.
    I hope it's just because you like the taste.

    "diet" energy drink is dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmbrousSoul
    I never said dehydrate yourself, infact I will qoute myself since you didn't seem to read it yourself and jumped to conclusions.

    "don't swallow because the liquid will slosh around in your stomach and give you cramps. (usually for runners or sports, but it can still happen just moving around)

    The best thing you can do is take some filtered water and swish it in your mouth when your mouth/throat is dry, let a bit trickle down, and spit it out."


    I am not saying do not drink anything and spit it out if you do. I am simply saying don't chug water because it will give you cramps in your sides. What I meant by "let a bit trickle down" was let some of the water be swallowed, but not the entire chug. This is simply a sports thing to keep you in the game and not cramping from sloshing water in your stomach. It is impossible to dehydrate with this method, because technically you are still drinking water. Do I have to mention that your mouth has glands that also "collect"?
    not everyone has cramping issues... I typically drink my fill once I hit the top, and have no problems with cramping or with the water 'sloshing around.'
    I'd also be skeptical of claims that you can keep up with how much water you're losing on a hard ride (even without factoring in environmental issues) by simply swishing some water into your mouth...
    chugging water might have downsides, but drinking reasonable amounts isn't something that should be discouraged. Plus, not everyone is as prone to cramping as it sounds like you might be.

    re: 'diet energy drinks' being dumb...
    care to substantiate that claim, at all?
    How's it any more 'dumb' than any diet type drink? The taste difference is minuscule imo, and I try to keep my diet low in sugar...
    what's your real beef with energy drinks then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMongoose
    not everyone has cramping issues... I typically drink my fill once I hit the top, and have no problems with cramping or with the water 'sloshing around.'
    I'd also be skeptical of claims that you can keep up with how much water you're losing on a hard ride (even without factoring in environmental issues) by simply swishing some water into your mouth...
    chugging water might have downsides, but drinking reasonable amounts isn't something that should be discouraged. Plus, not everyone is as prone to cramping as it sounds like you might be.

    re: 'diet energy drinks' being dumb...
    care to substantiate that claim, at all?
    How's it any more 'dumb' than any diet type drink? The taste difference is minuscule imo, and I try to keep my diet low in sugar...
    what's your real beef with energy drinks then?

    Again kiddo, this is personal experience from SPORTS. I am not recommending to not drink any water, I never stated that ANYWHERE. Stop "putting words in my mouth" so to say.

    And yes, diet drinks ARE dumb. The things that go into creating them are worse for you then anything real. Carbs, you need, sugar, you need. Just like FAT, you need that too. Really, anyone that doesn't already know this is probably just an oblivious kid still. Everyone knows that "diet coke" does more harm then good, hell look at coke! It cleans CHROME! If you still cannot handle these facts and you see your 8th grade education better then my HS diploma, then please go to wikipedia and search it up yourself. For example, the fake sweetener, aspartame, produces formaldehyde, something you DON'T need. So, if you really think you are doing your body better by drinking nutrition-less drinks, then you really are as oblivious as I stated above. Time to be quiet now kiddo.

    So don't think you're telling me something like you know what you're talking about, because you don't. I wasn't telling everyone to read what I say and follow it, I was just suggesting that if you have an empty stomach and you run around say on a field, the water sloshes and you do get cramps.

    Energy drinks are not the best thing for you, considering what they consist of, wiki some of the ingredients for yourself and find out. Fake synthetic chemicals are not all that great for you, no matter what the "side effect" feeling is like, even if its "energy" as a side effect.

    All I am saying is that filtered water, not too cold, is the best thing you can have when you are active. Not chugging it while you are moving around a lot (specifically for sports, which I STATED) on an empty stomach you do not want to swallow all of the water you drink, the keyword there is ALL. its ok to "trickle drink" which means don't drink any more then what wets your throat. This is just a sports trick (soccer, football, etc) to not get cramped up. I didn't figure it would apply to cycling but you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UmbrousSoul
    I never said dehydrate yourself, infact I will qoute myself since you didn't seem to read it yourself and jumped to conclusions.

    "don't swallow because the liquid will slosh around in your stomach and give you cramps. (usually for runners or sports, but it can still happen just moving around)

    The best thing you can do is take some filtered water and swish it in your mouth when your mouth/throat is dry, let a bit trickle down, and spit it out."


    I am not saying do not drink anything and spit it out if you do. I am simply saying don't chug water because it will give you cramps in your sides. What I meant by "let a bit trickle down" was let some of the water be swallowed, but not the entire chug. This is simply a sports thing to keep you in the game and not cramping from sloshing water in your stomach. It is impossible to dehydrate with this method, because technically you are still drinking water. Do I have to mention that your mouth has glands that also "collect"?
    Don't spit water out on rides. If you get a side pain, sack up and own it. It is not a cramp... it is a simple little wee side pain. The water is more important than a little twinge in the side. Any side pain complaining is just an excuse to make things easy. Get a side pain? Drink more water and pedal harder. Scream!

    If you ride hard... miles and miles and thousands of feet of elevation for hours at a time, then you aren't going to have a problem drinking all the fluid you want to drink. That is mountain biking right? You aren't going to have any side pain issues. They are meaningless and unnoticed. They are welcome change to the pain and the struggle that you endure on every 30% grade climb.... on every 180bpm effort.

    "glands collecting"? Whaaa? Drink the fricken water, man. Drink it down and slam those crank arms. Glands? Screw the glands. Collect water in mouth, swallow, smash pedals, repeat. Glands? Glands collecting is still drinking? Hmm... no it isn't. It is micro-managing the simple. It is an excuse machine. It is a crutch.

    Drink, ride, endure... and that doesn't mean enduring some little rinky-dink side pain. That doesn't mean riding your grandma's bike. That doesn't mean collecting water from gland absorption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29Colossus
    Don't spit water out on rides. If you get a side pain, sack up and own it. It is not a cramp... it is a simple little wee side pain. The water is more important than a little twinge in the side. Any side pain complaining is just an excuse to make things easy. Get a side pain? Drink more water and pedal harder. Scream!

    If you ride hard... miles and miles and thousands of feet of elevation for hours at a time, then you aren't going to have a problem drinking all the fluid you want to drink. That is mountain biking right? You aren't going to have any side pain issues. They are meaningless and unnoticed. They are welcome change to the pain and the struggle that you endure on every 30% grade climb.... on every 180bpm effort.

    "glands collecting"? Whaaa? Drink the fricken water, man. Drink it down and slam those crank arms. Glands? Screw the glands. Collect water in mouth, swallow, smash pedals, repeat. Glands? Glands collecting is still drinking? Hmm... no it isn't. It is micro-managing the simple. It is an excuse machine. It is a crutch.

    Drink, ride, endure... and that doesn't mean enduring some little rinky-dink side pain. That doesn't mean riding your grandma's bike. That doesn't mean collecting water from gland absorption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmbrousSoul
    Do what you want, I enjoy the pain of exercise, not ignorance.


    Keep spitting up your water lil' one. Mommy will be in to burb you shortly.


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    Keep spitting up your water lil' one. Mommy will be in to burb you shortly.

    Wow you are ignorant, why would you have to burp if you aren't drinking the water? Your arrogance is showing, please hide that in public places.

    Technically, being 19, I am not little, nor do I need help burping, "little one".
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    It's actually kinda funny to read what this 19 year old kid has to write. I remember when I was 19 and knew more than anyone else ... the good ol' days!! Anyway, junior, spitting out water will not re-hydrate you ... PERIOD !!! Swishing and spitting water will not re-hydrate you anywhere near close to what you need ... think about how much you sweat and how much fluid you lose through energy use and how little you gain from the miniscule absorption that your hydration method provides ... not nearly enough! I believe you are the same kid that still can not handle riding any hills if I read your past posts correctly. Well, maybe the half-hour rides on flat surfaces only require swish and spit, but when you start climbing and doing real multi-hour rides, you'll see how much fluid you need. Remember, when your body tells you that you are thirsty, you are already 20% dehydrated. That being stated, you should not cramp up from drinking fluids while on a bike ... maybe in contact sports if you chug 1/2 a quart at a time, but riding is relatively smooth. As one poster stated earlier, if you do cramp, suck it up and drive on - you NEED the fluids, trust us! So, my newbie fellow rider, it's not wise to know it all, especially as a beginner in this grueling sport.. Good luck with your riding and do not be afraid to drink that water, please, for your own safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmbrousSoul
    Wow you are ignorant, why would you have to burp if you aren't drinking the water? Your arrogance is showing, please hide that in public places.
    Ohhhh silly silly. You need burped because your Pedialite and Gerber Carrot Chutney isn't settled.

    Technically, being 19, I am not little, nor do I need help burping, "little one".
    Ooopsie... must be nap time. You are so testy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lusdawg
    It's actually kinda funny to read what this 19 year old kid has to write. I remember when I was 19 and knew more than anyone else ... the good ol' days!! Anyway, junior, spitting out water will not re-hydrate you ... PERIOD !!! Swishing and spitting water will not re-hydrate you anywhere near close to what you need ... think about how much you sweat and how much fluid you lose through energy use and how little you gain from the miniscule absorption that your hydration method provides ... not nearly enough! I believe you are the same kid that still can not handle riding any hills if I read your past posts correctly. Well, maybe the half-hour rides on flat surfaces only require swish and spit, but when you start climbing and doing real multi-hour rides, you'll see how much fluid you need. Remember, when your body tells you that you are thirsty, you are already 20% dehydrated. That being stated, you should not cramp up from drinking fluids while on a bike ... maybe in contact sports if you chug 1/2 a quart at a time, but riding is relatively smooth. As one poster stated earlier, if you do cramp, suck it up and drive on - you NEED the fluids, trust us! So, my newbie fellow rider, it's not wise to know it all, especially as a beginner in this grueling sport.. Good luck with your riding and do not be afraid to drink that water, please, for your own safety.
    i agree. if i did not drink every bit of 4 liters of water that i had with me on Porcupine Rim about 4 weeks ago, i would have died. when i finished i was so dehydrated. it was only supposed to be a 3-hour ride. it turned into 5 hours when my friend flatted twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm_racer
    i agree. if i did not drink every bit of 4 liters of water that i had with me on Porcupine Rim about 4 weeks ago, i would have died. when i finished i was so dehydrated. it was only supposed to be a 3-hour ride. it turned into 5 hours when my friend flatted twice.

    Ok, well since everyone just shoves words in my mouth I will point this out.

    I do not get cramps, I can get up hills, I do not play sports, I said multiple times this is a trick from SPORTS. You're all over reacting and trying to say I am wrong when I am simply stating something I BELIEVE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I am not forcing this on anyone, just commenting about it.

    I don't care what you do or what you think, besides sweating is simply to cool you off. Yes you do lose liquids and yes you do drink water or something else to replace it. However, if you chug the water just because you're thirsty and you have NOTHING in your stomach it will slosh and you will cramp. I am not saying I cramp, I am not saying anyone in specific will cramp, this is just a fact.

    Besides, isn't it kind of stupid to go biking on an empty stomach anyway? No energy, so this is pretty much just flaming me for my opinions. Whatever, enjoy your day.
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    A few tablespoons 50/50 mix of maltodextron and dextrose in my camelbak mixed with water. Both are easily digested carbohydrates with a glyemic index of 100 (basically a form of sugar). By far the best post workout(along with some protien and branch chain ammino acids) / intra workout energy source available. Alot of GNC, vitamine shoppe post workout energy drinks all contain these two ingredients + alot of other stuff you don't want like fructose. They are available online for 1/3 of the price of the store bought products. Lots of info online about it, here is an in depth look at both, you'll be brushing up on some of your High School BIO AND CHEM: http://www.mens-total-fitness.com/de...todextrin.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-town-3-
    A few tablespoons 50/50 mix of maltodextron and dextrose in my camelbak mixed with water. Both are easily digested carbohydrates with a glyemic index of 100 (basically a form of sugar). By far the best post workout(along with some protien and branch chain ammino acids) / intra workout energy source available. Alot of GNC, vitamine shoppe post workout energy drinks all contain these two ingredients + alot of other stuff you don't want like fructose. They are available online for 1/3 of the price of the store bought products. Lots of info online about it, here is an in depth look at both, you'll be brushing up on some of your High School BIO AND CHEM: http://www.mens-total-fitness.com/de...todextrin.html
    Yeah, if you enjoy mixing things the best thing to do is engineer your water. The people that just drink energy drinks or MTN.Dew because of the name, taste, etc, just don't care whats actually in them. If they weren't blind (and dull in the head) they would see that filtered water, mixed with what you actually NEED, would be the best thing for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmbrousSoul
    If you still cannot handle these facts and you see your 8th grade education better then my HS diploma, then please go to wikipedia and search it up yourself.
    One quarter from my Bachelors, then on to snag a masters in education, thanks Mr GED.
    Wikipedia, totally foolproof place to grab information.... everything on there is checked for accuracy, right?


    one last time re: energy drinks and this thread... I don't think any of us are suggesting that you use an energy drink/beer/rams piss as something to keep you hydrated during a ride... we're talking about what you put into your system before or after a ride to keep yourself happy/drunk/amped.

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    No good Stop Flaming Me You Flamer

    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMongoose
    One quarter from my Bachelors, then on to snag a masters in education, thanks Mr GED.
    Wikipedia, totally foolproof place to grab information.... everything on there is checked for accuracy, right?


    one last time re: energy drinks and this thread... I don't think any of us are suggesting that you use an energy drink/beer/rams piss as something to keep you hydrated during a ride... we're talking about what you put into your system before or after a ride to keep yourself happy/drunk/amped.
    Nice assumption, prick, it is a real diploma from the HS I would have attended. Not a G.E.D. You want to read it? It doesn't matter because you can go to the school, look in the history, and see my name under the graduates you fool. You're as arrogant as 29er there. Not to mention your college degree means absolutely nothing when you can't even survive in the wild. You could be the smartest man in the world and still die from some pathetic disease.

    No, wikipedia is not foolproof.

    Like I said, I don't care what you're saying. Flamer.
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    Come back later ...

    When you finally realize that you do, indeed, need water to hydrate, come back here with tail in between legs and tell everyone how you were wrong, then apologize to everyone to whom you ridiculed for trying to help you! No wonder you have no friends as you have so stated in prior posts. (I kinda felt sorry for you in some of your lame "whoa is me" posts, but not so much anymore.) You honestly need to listen to (or ignore) advice when people try to help. Also, maybe you feel the need to experience the "pain" of dehydration during exercise ... whatever, but there is no need to preach your "I don't want any chemicals in my self-righteous body" BS! You smoke weed, dude, so who are you to preach others about toxins in their bodies. Before you come back with "weed is natural", remember that tobacco is grown, also. You seem relatively intelligent and write reasonably well, so you need to realize why you belong to these forums: to gain knowledge on mt biking. You keep pissing people off with your defensive and abusive remarks, and no one will want to help you ... get it?
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    Again, I never said you didn't need water to hydrate you flamer. You just get your kicks flaming me over something YOU'RE making up.

    Let me explain to you people.

    Your age doesn't matter, it doesn't depict your intelligence. You can accept or reject to learn new things which sustains your pre-teen mentality. It looks like most of you don't know your ass from your face, (you talk sh*t), so I guess I have to type it out for you.

    Yes, but see bleach, rat poison, other random chemicals DON'T grow from the ground.

    Lmao, I don't want your pity or your comments, infact I don't care if any of you help me because by the time one of you responded I already figured it out or found out on my own.

    This was just a simple post of my perspective on something and all of you start to flame me about it. If anything You're the ones that are making yourselves look like asses flaming someone over their own opinion. When you join a forum, any forum, it clearly states that there are perspectives and opinions from ALL OVER THE WORLD and you must respect them, not bash them and try to force someone to think they're wrong when they are actually just pointing out a fact and applying it to an incorrect situation (there I admitted I was wrong about water - cycling). But you don't have to be so aggressive with the way you "tell me how I am wrong". In turn, it just makes you look like a flaming prick.

    Really, the only reason I joined this forum was for access to the colorado front range category. I could care less what you people think you know about someone you don't even know. Good for you, now go steam in a corner about something so ridiculous as this while I continue on my way, without any regard to what any of you blathered. Yes, I did read it, now I wished I didn't because I wasted a couple of minutes.

    So, in all actuality it is the rest of you who are in the wrong, simply because you took something out of proportion and blew it up, then started assuming and making things up.

    Good for you, heres a cookie, now go run along americants.
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    GED/Diploma, same diff, the point is, you are in no position to criticize my education or intellect.

    I'm unsure how my having a degree somehow relates to my supposed inability to 'live in the wild,' but that's par for the course when you get involved with a troll.

    please do everyone a favor and stick to the colo section of the boards, or at least be a little more respectful of others. Most of your comments here have been negative, overly defensive, and ultimately perfectly in step with the bandwidth wasting nature of most of these "What's the best AM Llama?" type threads.

    I call it even odds on US 'continuing on his way' while we 'blather,' or continuing to try and pump his post count with this thread.
    Similar odds in regards to this thread getting recycled.

    Man, I need to learn to stop getting caught up by trolls, but this is the second time in a month that someone unqualified to do so has challanged my intellect and education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMongoose
    GED/Diploma, same diff, the point is, you are in no position to criticize my education or intellect.

    I'm unsure how my having a degree somehow relates to my supposed inability to 'live in the wild,' but that's par for the course when you get involved with a troll.

    please do everyone a favor and stick to the colo section of the boards, or at least be a little more respectful of others. Most of your comments here have been negative, overly defensive, and ultimately perfectly in step with the bandwidth wasting nature of most of these "What's the best AM Llama?" type threads.

    I call it even odds on US 'continuing on his way' while we 'blather,' or continuing to try and pump his post count with this thread.
    Similar odds in regards to this thread getting recycled.

    Man, I need to learn to stop getting caught up by trolls, but this is the second time in a month that someone unqualified to do so has challanged my intellect and education.

    You also have no position to insult my intellect or insult me at all. But you continue, why don't you stick to the mongoose section of the forums.

    If you weren't such troll feed maybe the trolls wouldn't come out a trollin'.

    The only thing that challenges your intellect and education is your spelling and grammar.

    No, most of my posts have not been defensive or offensive, at least not on the rest of the forums. I believe I have a right to defend my position and I do.

    Do us all a favor, all of you, and stop this non-sense. I have been trying to get you people to go flame something else, but you continue. CEASE AND DESIST!

    How it relates to your ability to survive? If you didn't know yet, you just answered the question yourself.

    And again, a diploma is not a G.E.D, this just shows more signs of your blatant arrogance.

    So, lets stop this BS. If you can't say anything nice, I know I won't say anything nice. Drop the subject, stop posting about this because it has completely derailed the thread, and go do something else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmbrousSoul
    why don't you stick to the mongoose section of the forums.
    Bwahahaaa.... now that was funny.


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    To whom it may concern: Get it straight ...

    Hey Bikasaurus Maximus: You stated that you don't play sports ("I do not play sports"), but in an earlier post you state that you know about cramping from "personal experience from SPORTS" - which is it? You also keep stating that cramping from water is a fact ("I am not saying I cramp, I am not saying anyone in specific will cramp, this is just a fact"), yet you also state it is just opinion ("I BELIEVE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE"). Again, which is it? And where is the proof that this is a fact? You think weed is better for you than smoking --- well, check out multiple internet sources, including this one: http://www.well.com/user/woa/fspot.htm ... you also go on that you are, basically, going to ignore the replies to your so-implied fact-filled arguments: "while I continue on my way, without any regard to what any of you blathered" --- well, do us all a favor and post no more, please! In other words, "Go away, junior" - BTW, I know you want to respond to this - it's eating away at you, isn't it? Are you the bigger man able to walk away? I doubt it! (And, yes, I know I'm not the bigger man) .............. I know I got caught in a troll trap, guys ... sorry, but I can't sit by in an idle manner while this punk disrespects us while completely talking from his arse ... I (we) tried to help him out, but he obviously knows much more than we do with all the experience he has ... as Britney said, "Oops! I did it again!"
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    To get back to the subject at hand ... sorry for the temp highjack

    My pre-ride drink is Cytomax Pre-formance, then water with/without electrolytes during, and Ultragen within 30-45 mins post-ride ... seems to work for me ... I'll usually have a beer or two (amber ale) with lunch if I've ridden with the guys
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    Well, I normally drink water. I usually drink around 3 liters of water a day plus other stuff. I like Red Bull and Rockstar Guava, but I can't have them before a ride because my heart rate goes up. The new think I keep in the water bottle is Accelerade. If you mix it a bit heavy, it tastes like orange pop-rocks. Nice little buzz of sugar before a climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intense5point5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intense5point5
    Beer.
    umm... beeeeer..

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    Pre-ride: 16oz. glass filled with half cold water, other half pedialyte. Also prehydrate the day before a big ride. Now..................after the ride - a good wheat beer or ale!!!!! We haul 100oz. up here in Arizona for any ride over 2.5 hours. Cheers...............

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    Take 1/2 shot of 5 Hour Energy before your ride, and dump the other 1/2 in your water filled camalbak along with a tube of ZipFizz. or if you're looking for something with a little more taste, substitute 1/2 the water for a bottle of Gatorade/Powerade
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    Cyto Sport Fast Twitch. This stuff will jack you up. I notice a big difference using Fast Twitch!

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    H20. And Fat Tire. Of course.

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    is this really.......

    is this really a tread about what we drink before, during and after rides? I would like to officially close this value less tread!!!!

    it is like a car crash I saw the title and just had to look.... and.... it was as bad as I thought!

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    this thread ain't such a bad idea, though it did lose momentum in the middle there. sometimes people (read: me) don't stop to think about what they're drinking pre/during/post ride. so here we get a bunch of options from other riders.

    me? i just use water. i tried gatorade, but it's just too sweet and syrupy for me.


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    This is blasphemy. There is one and only one drink All Mountain enough to even be CONSIDERED for slamming pre and post gnar gnar sessions, and it is the legendary Mountain Dew. It's so all mountain that I heard they're coming out with a CO2 system so that you can have it on tap in your Camelbak while throwing tail whips off 50 foot road gaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim311
    This is blasphemy. There is one and only one drink All Mountain enough to even be CONSIDERED for slamming pre and post gnar gnar sessions, and it is the legendary Mountain Dew. It's so all mountain that I heard they're coming out with a CO2 system so that you can have it on tap in your Camelbak while throwing tail whips off 50 foot road gaps.
    Yeah, and then you can also use the CO2 reserve to fill a flat tire when need be.

    As for me, it's just water in the camelback and then a bottle of gatorade along side in case you start to feel some cramps coming on during longer rides. Find this really helps me.

    With regard to the comment that Gatorade is too sweet/syrupy (sp?), have you tried the Gatorade Rain? It's not bad, kind of like light Gatorade.

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    Jack daniels and coke is good for gettin you wrecked and it numbs the pain when you fall off your bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazle
    Jack daniels and coke is good for gettin you wrecked and it numbs the pain when you fall off your bike
    finally some adult desided to jump in. Beer was the only other responsible and mature drinks that are suggested here.

    I clicked on this thread expecting that half the responders will mention Jack Daniels....but I guess the these days boys refused to grow up...they like the official drink of the couch potatos and fat kids in the neighborhood....mountain dew...

    For me, old and burnt out.....grew up with the vibes of 70s and 80s.....my drinks are all about pushing the limit...isnt that what AM is all about...

    Before ride: Double shot of espresso (water before and after the espresso) and if I am in the mood, possibly some frangellico in the coffee.

    During ride: water, water and water

    After ride: usually beer. AM beer of choice Guinness Extra Stout (Bass is my XC beer of choice) or Classic Margarita. or gin-and-tonic.

    call me names, but XC drinks are not man enough for AM riders. and DH/FR drinks are too loud.
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    i don't really know what the difference would be between an "AM drink" "XC drink" or "DH/FR drink". I would imagine water works well under all these circumstances. And I would also imagine Mt. Dew works very poorly under all.

    on a side note, i do enjoy myself some Mountain Dew, but not for hydration purposes. I would never drink anything like that while cycling.


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    again, depending on posting, this thread deals with pre ride drinks, post ride drinks, during ride drinks, drinks for when you're surfing MTBR, or drinks when you are trying to decide what to drink.

    rlevine: the difference lies in how EXTREME your riding is.
    obviously!

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    oh i'm extreme, but i don't do DH/FR. so where does that leave me? is it ok to load my camelbak with straight burboun? or do i have to stick with water since i don't RIDE extreme enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMongoose
    rlevine: the difference lies in how EXTREME your riding is.
    obviously!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orca
    finally some adult desided to jump in. Beer was the only other responsible and mature drinks that are suggested here.

    I clicked on this thread expecting that half the responders will mention Jack Daniels....but I guess the these days boys refused to grow up...they like the official drink of the couch potatos and fat kids in the neighborhood....mountain dew...

    For me, old and burnt out.....grew up with the vibes of 70s and 80s.....my drinks are all about pushing the limit...isnt that what AM is all about...

    Before ride: Double shot of espresso (water before and after the espresso) and if I am in the mood, possibly some frangellico in the coffee.

    During ride: water, water and water

    After ride: usually beer. AM beer of choice Guinness Extra Stout (Bass is my XC beer of choice) or Classic Margarita. or gin-and-tonic.

    call me names, but XC drinks are not man enough for AM riders. and DH/FR drinks are too loud.

    Sir you have insulted not only my beverage of choice but my riding style as well.




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    Anyone who answers anything other than beer should be drawn and quartered.

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    THIS one or almost any stout after a ride


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    is jolt cola AM or FR? i forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlevine
    i don't really know what the difference would be between an "AM drink" "XC drink" or "DH/FR drink". I would imagine water works well under all these circumstances.
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    hi rando,
    wow...you dont know the difference between XC and AM? then what are you doing in this forum. there are definite and serious difference between XC and AM water.....AM water is more aggressive, beefy and need to be drink with an attitude.......AM drinks are also sufficiently "fortified"....
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    See, my problem is that most of the AM Dew drinkers are going about it all wrong.

    IMNAAHO, the only true 'extreme' way of drinking dew is to shotgun a can that is on the very verge of freezing...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Orca
    hi rando,
    wow...you dont know the difference between XC and AM? then what are you doing in this forum. there are definite and serious difference between XC and AM water.....AM water is more aggressive, beefy and need to be drink with an attitude.......AM drinks are also sufficiently "fortified"....
    XC water has to be drank slowly also at room temperature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    XC water has to be drank slowly also at room temperature.

    DH should be slammed.
    Right on.
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    Marg's no reference to tequila and the health benefits of the mighty agave plant?
    oh the humanity....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDB
    Marg's no reference to tequila and the health benefits of the mighty agave plant?
    oh the humanity....
    I'll chip in a vote for te-kill-ya. There's nothing quite like drinking a Mollie (think Long Island Ice Tea made with margerita ingredients) after a morning ride and being stumbling drunk at 4 in the afternoon. Thankfully I've only done that once. Usually a beer is more appropriate - it contains a better mix of carbohydrates, h2o and painkiller.

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    My water stinks and stains everything it touches. Does that count as AM enough? I'm pretty sure if you drank enough of it, it would also give you the runs.
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    You bunch of sissies! Vitamin water and little girly drinks.... LMAO... you can all head over to the GRS forum now


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    I like a good Monster before I ride. then plenty of water during of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slack_er
    You bunch of sissies! Vitamin water and little girly drinks.... LMAO... you can all head over to the GRS forum now
    Thats what i drank in Jr. High
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