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    Hardtail anyone? Chomag Sakura build

    I built this one up at the end of last season and never got around to taking pics. I've been on a handful of rides on it now, love it. Steel frame, very compliant, quite light, and relaxed All Mountain geometry. This thing just devours single track. I took it on a 35 mile epic in the fall with many, many thousands of feet of climbing and it just killed. With the fork in 2.75" mode it feels almost like an XC race rig (except for the wide riser bars) and in 4.75" mode it handles technical moves with the best of them. Being a light build, have to go a little easy on the bigger features but it's worth it for the efficiency on endless climbs.

    Frame: Chromag Sakura (3.75lbs, true temper OX platinum)
    Fork: Maverick SC32
    Headset: King, ventana race
    Stem: Sunline All mountain, 65mm
    Bars: Chromag
    Grips: ODI Rogue lock-on
    Brakes: Hope Mini Pro, 160mm
    Shifters: X0
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR Ldy
    Post: Thomson Elite
    Clamp: Chromag QR
    Cranks: XTR, 175mm
    FD: XTR
    RD: X0 med cage
    Cassette: XTR 11-34
    Chain: PC-991 Hollow pin
    Pedals: Crank Bros Acid
    Wheels: I9 ultra light w/ZTR 355 rims (1410g)
    Skewere: DT Swiss RWS
    Tires: Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25, setup tubeless

    Weight 23.8 lbs
    HTA with fork in 4.75" mode - 68 deg
    HTA with fork in 2.75" mode - 70 deg















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    Very nice indeed. Cool to see a finished pic etc, remember seeing the frame pics..... Any pics of the Blk Mrkt Mob? ..... Mwah ha ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Very nice indeed. Cool to see a finished pic etc, remember seeing the frame pics..... Any pics of the Blk Mrkt Mob? ..... Mwah ha ha
    Yeah, I didn't even bother to clean it up. MTB's are supposed to be muddy right?


    Da Mob:



    But I'm letting the Mob go. Too many bikes in my stable at the moment, I can't even move in my garage. Sold my Tracer yesterday. I believe the Mob will have a new home by this evening.

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    Whoah! Nice.

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    Nice. Taking it south this week? Or sticking to the SS?

    I am selling off Garage Fodder as well to pay for my fancy seatposts!

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    Me likey!

    I've been looking at the Stylus, but that bike looks sweet!
    Extreme stationary biker.

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    Wow, that looks awesome. Approved.

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    Very spanky


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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    Nice. Taking it south this week? Or sticking to the SS?

    I am selling off Garage Fodder as well to pay for my fancy seatposts!

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    seatposts?

    Takin' the SS this weekend, hope to ride Grafton.

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    F-in hot!

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    Nice Chromag! Great build.

    I have been lusting over their frames, the geo on the Samurai is exactly what I want for my next bike.

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    Very very sweet. I wouldn't change a thing on that build, love the fork choice, very original!
    Bike good, work bad.

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    Mate, that looks awesome. I've been riding full suspension for over 12 years and it was stuff like this that tempted me back to the steel hardtails!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err
    seatposts?

    Takin' the SS this weekend, hope to ride Grafton.
    Talked with some locals, sounds like everything is pretty dialed and in good condition, along with some additional building that is still under wraps.

    You'll love it.

    Yeah, Seatposts... you were there for the conversation about who deserved a seatpost more... the only way to end those discussions happily is with two of everything.

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    Sweet! If I were looking for a new (non-custom) steel frame, they'd be right up at the top of the list. Evil Sovereign vs. one of the Chromags would be a really tough call. It'd probably come down to fine points of geometry around a Lyrik for the fork.
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    Waahhhhhhhhhh, sooo hot!
    Nice stuff mag. I bet she rips

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    I liked your pic so much I called my LBS and asked them how much for the frame.

    Im hurting a little bit now.

    Buts its sooo sweet that I fully understand.

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    beautiful

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    Thanks for all the comments. The credit here really goes to Ian @ Chromag bikes, all I did was bolt some fun parts on a killer frame.

    Some of the detail in the dropouts can be seen in this photo, it's really a sweet frame:

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    What do you think

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    Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing the priveledge.

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    That's a really smart build for the chromag-burly frame with all-purpose geometry (to provide years of fun) coupled with parts that handle the up hills-just good thinking (and the Maverick/ I9 set up is a nice touch of function bling!).

    Looks really great too-I like the Chromag handle bars!

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    Drool......!
    Love the black and blue!
    All the angles look perfect!!!

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    This has become the bike that the wife and I fight over when the day calls for smooth trails and lots of climbing. The relaxed angles and the 4.75" of fork travel keep the pucker factor to a minimum when the going gets really rough. With a short inseam, I love the low top tube. The I9's are freakishly stiff for being an ultralight wheel set, money well spent.

    I should also note what punishment the SC32 has taken. I've used it for urban riding, including drops to flat, stair gaps, and skinnies and wall rides. It's seen a bit of time at the skate park and survived my learning 1/4 pipe transfers that included massively hard hits from about 5' up to flat when I blew the transfer. I've used it for dirt jumping, mostly smooth landings but a few botched ones. And now it's seeing a bunch of fast rocky trail riding. No creaks, leaky seals, notable flex, or any other issues encounter in its life. It remains plush and trouble free. Just thought I'd share since many people seem to find it to be a curios spec for this frame.

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    Very nice build. I have been eyeing the chromags for awhile too...but haven't seen any in person. The samurai had been more of what I thought I wanted but this looks pretty sweet at a the really light weight. What size are you riding?

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    i don't usually like blue colored frame bikes, but this is a spankin good one!
    check out great video coverage of anything mtb (well almost).

    http://www.mtbcut.tv

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    Nice to see a Chromag out there...I've lusted after one of those frames for a few years now. Sick build!

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    Hello, Im a french rider in France

    After a research Ive found your Sakura, very beautiful !!!

    I love the Maverick and the stem.

    Is-it a 17 height ?


    Here is mine, Ive got it since march 2008.

    Its a great bike, funny and effective.

    The weight is about 24.7 lbs.

    Frame: Chromag Sakura
    Fork: Magura LAURIN FCR 130
    Headset: King
    Stem: Thomson X4, 90mm
    Bars: Ritchey WCS carbone
    Grips: ODI lock-on
    Brakes: Hope Mini 2006, 160-180
    Shifters: XT
    Saddle: WTB
    Post: Ritchey WCS
    Clamp: Chromag QR
    Cranks: XT, 175mm
    FD: XT
    RD: XT
    Cassette: XT 11-32
    Chain: XTR
    Pedals: Crank Bros Candy SL
    Wheels: Hope Pro 2 + Sapim Cx Ray + DT 4.2 D
    Skewere: A2Z titane
    Tires: mainly Continental SpeedKing-MountainKing or Schwalbe Nobby Nic 1.80-2.10-2.25 , setup tubetype









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    Nice build! Glad to seem I'm not the only one around here sporting Chromag steel goodness. Mine's been seeing a lot more ride time lately, both me and the wife sharing it. Nothing but praise for it.

    I love the color on yours, very nice looking ride.

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    What kind of tire clearance does

    the Sakura have? Can a legit 2.35 or 2.4 fit?
    Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing the priveledge.

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    Chromag Sakura from Oslo, Norway

    Here's mine, just just switched all the parts from my Chameleon to a new Chromag Sakura frame. Only a few short test rides yet, but an incredible comfort boost :-)

    The specs (with equpiment model year just for the heck of it):

    2008 Fox Float R 140mm
    1997 Chris King hubs, 2007 Notubes Flow rims, DT Supercomp spokes
    2008 Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.4 Snakeskin tires (fine clearance, BTW)
    2008 Avid Juicy Seven brakes (185mm front, 160mm rear)
    2006 SRAM X.O trigger, 2007 SRAM X.9 super short cage der - 1x9 drivetrain
    2007 Blackspire Mono Veloce 32 t chainring, 2007 Spot chainguard
    2006 SKF BXC-600 ISIS bottom bracket, 2001 Race Face Turbine LP cranks
    2005 Moots Titanium seat post, 2005 WTB Rocket V saddle, Chromag seat QR
    2008 Syntace F139 75mm polished stem, 2001 Azonic DW bars (CF-1 on its way)

    24,5 lbs (11,1 kg) as shown - frame alone 1.97 kg in medium size.

    (Steerer still uncut, will probably lift the bars a little - makes for more downhill fun)
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    Beautiful Sakura geiranders, I'd always had my eye on the Samurai as a good balance of rugged HT without too much weight to climb, and use for pump tracks or whatever. But these Sakura builds and listed weights are really nice.

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    These bikes are gorgeous. I can see how so many people are drawn back to a nice hardtail. One question, how did you ride the bike out to that trail without pedals?

    Quote Originally Posted by geiranders
    Here's mine, just just switched all the parts from my Chameleon to a new Chromag Sakura frame. Only a few short test rides yet, but an incredible comfort boost :-)



    24,5 lbs (11,1 kg) as shown - frame alone 1.97 kg in medium size.

    (Steerer still uncut, will probably lift the bars a little - makes for more downhill fun)
    OVER THE LINE SMOKEY!

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    Superb !
    Can you post a pic of the Chromag "logo" at front of the frame ?

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    I love that blue color and the Maverick fork.

    Nice build!

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    Hey T, that is one good lookin' ride man. How much does one of those frames set the average consumer back? It's a 26er right? Any consideration of a 29er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lev
    Hey T, that is one good lookin' ride man. How much does one of those frames set the average consumer back? It's a 26er right? Any consideration of a 29er?
    Soooo busted, getting to work on completing that stable already? You should probably pick up a V-Tach while you're at it, just to be safe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lev
    Hey T, that is one good lookin' ride man. How much does one of those frames set the average consumer back? It's a 26er right? Any consideration of a 29er?
    Yo! She's a 26er. I haven't heard any rumblings from Ian on a 29er. I think retail was around $1100 USD last time I checked. Not bad for a hand made True Temper OX Platinum frame.

    I just rode mine from Big Water to the Crest on an extended lunch break yesterday. It just screams up those climbs but I still managed to make it back to the parking lot in under 10 min. One heck of a hardtail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err
    Yo! She's a 26er. I haven't heard any rumblings from Ian on a 29er. I think retail was around $1100 USD last time I checked. Not bad for a hand made True Temper OX Platinum frame.

    I just rode mine from Big Water to the Crest on an extended lunch break yesterday. It just screams up those climbs but I still managed to make it back to the parking lot in under 10 min. One heck of a hardtail...
    I think you really ought to get a new one soon and sell that one off locally at an extremely discounted rate, after all that blue is sooooo 2007. I could probably find a buyer if you're interested.
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    You guys here were big inspirations for the months waiting for frame and parts.
    I finally built it up, but hadnt a chance yet to go for a ride. Surely ll do this weekend.



    Ill come up with some more daylight/trail pics soon.

    Specs.
    Chromag Sakura medium,
    RS Reba team 08 with u-turn,
    Sun ringle Wheelset,
    monstreous tioga DH tires,
    Formula K18,
    some Syntace, Salsa, Race face stuff,
    1x9 gearing,

    It came out at 12,2 kg due to the heavy heavy tires. Ill probably switch to Kena Nevegal or Maxxis something and ll end up at >11,5kg. Way more important than weight is; it really feels stable and solid.

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    whoa!! those are some nice bikes

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    impresive Err, how cost this frame?

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    its been six years! how are these bikes holding out?

    i want to build something very similar soon...

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    I love the Sakura. My list Aggressive XC hardtails that I am considering includes the Sakura, Cotic Soul, Genesis Latitude. However, the 456EVOII is under heavy consideration because of the price tag. The trade off is of course the 2lb weight penalty, 425 chainstay vs the 420mm chainstay of the Sakura and soul.

    I'm also considering the Chi-Ti custom route using the Sakura/ Coul geometry as the template.

    How is it in terms of technical climbing up roots/rocks/logs. I am just wondering what affect the shorter chainstays have compared to the 456's 425mm chainsty

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    I've had my Sakura for about 6 years now. I was inspired to buy it because of this post by Err. I owned a Samurai at the time and it was an excellent AM hardtail and this post made me miss a more XC oriented bike. The Sakura is the most stable and neutral handling XC bike I've ever ridden, but it is an XC bike. If you want 140mm travel and 2.4" tires, you'll need a samurai. I've never ridden any of the Cotic products so I can't compare. I am a bit of a steel hardtail connoisseur and I have owned MANY bikes, including several custom built frames, and they are all gone and the Chromag remains. Best steel hardtail I've ever owned.
    Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing the priveledge.

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