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    Good all-mountain bike for beginner?

    I'm interested mostly in trail riding and some downhill. Going to do some lift-serviced downhill. No crazy drops or anything, as I'm just getting into all mountain.

    I have an '02 K2 Disco Monkey frame I thought about building up with about $1000 worth of parts. Some people have suggested that I might as well just get a new bike, since it's not the greatest frame. If I were to buy a new or slightly used bike, I'd like to spend between $1000-$14000. I've noticed there's occasionally some good deals to be had on eBay (I'm currently watching a Gary Fisher Kingfisher 2 and a Scott Nitrous 10).

    This looked halfway decent (def. will need a new fork and some other upgrades eventually) as a starting point:

    http://pedalpowerct.com/itemdetails....ogId=39&id=456

    That place is local to me and they do demos.

    Any thoughts?

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    How much do you weigh? What's your riding style like? Are you a smooth rider or a basher(blast over stuff instead of finding a good line)

    What type of terrain do you ride on? Mountains(From the lift comment I'm assuming this is the case)

    These questions should be good to get started.

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    I'd tend to agree that its time for a entirely new bike. Though, that was my intention recently and I ended up building up a new frame. That may be of intrest to you because my total cost came in within a couple hundred of your budget, and I could have cut some costs in different areas.

    My new AM bike... [a build log]

    For what you plan to be doing I would be looking at a 5"-6" AM bike. That will give you some room to grow as far as the kinds of things you are doign while still giving you a trail rideable bike. The bike that you pointed out is a poor option in my opinion. The front and rear shocks are total junk. You are better off to spend more now, because you get more for your money that way. Finding a really solid bike with that much travel for 1400.00 will be a challenge, but its not impossible. You may be able to find a Giant Reign on closeout reasonable close to that price if you hunt around.

    Heres an Ibex that is borderline on matching your needs...
    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/APG-SPT-LT-Details.html

    Its a good deal and it will do the job so long as you don't delve to far into free riding. It is a pretty solid frame though.

    Could you posibly spend abit more? that would open up your options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PavementHater
    How much do you weigh? What's your riding style like? Are you a smooth rider or a basher(blast over stuff instead of finding a good line)

    What type of terrain do you ride on? Mountains(From the lift comment I'm assuming this is the case)

    These questions should be good to get started.

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    I weigh about 175, 5'11", 32" inseam.

    Mostly smooth rider, might blast over certain stuff now and then.

    Terrain - hard-pack trails with some rocks/roots. Tend to prefer wider trails. Most lift serviced downhill will be mostly in New Hampshire.

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    Bite the bullet and go for a whole new bike. It will casue you a lot more if you just buy thing piece by piece. Thing may not match or work together well. Get a good frame with good parts you should be happy for at least a while till you gain more skill.

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    Sounds like a Giant Reign 3 for you would suite the best.

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    Yeah, I saw a Reign 3 online for $1000 recently...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davec113
    Yeah, I saw a Reign 3 online for $1000 recently...
    Wow, where?
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    I forgot where, sorry...

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    Performance were selling out their 05' Reign 3 for $999 at the end of last year. If you join their team performance club for $20, you get an additional $100 worth of in store coupons when you buy the bike. I have no idea if they still have any left, might be worth calling around.

    Also Wheel world are selling the Reign frames for $399, but that was in store only.
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    Performance has some of the most incredible deals. I recently picked up a SET of HFX Mags for 150.00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davec113
    I forgot where, sorry...
    I found it for $1000. This is the bike to get?

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    http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...cfm?SKU=21332#

    Found that too... Giant is probably the better bike though?

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    Damn, they're not allowed to sell the Giant Reign 3 mailorder, and the place is in CA. They say someone can go in and buy it and they'll ship it anywhere, but I don't know anyone from there that could buy it for me.

    http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=2972

    Edit: Anyone in LA want to make the purchase? I'll throw in some money.

    Double edit: I just remembered I do have a friend in LA that might be able to purchase it. I think I'm going to go with that bike.
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    absolutly but it! thats about the best bike you ould buy in you budget.
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    What size frame should I get?

    I'm 5'11"

    32" inseam

    175 pounds

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    Kona dawg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkiv808
    What size frame should I get?

    I'm 5'11"

    32" inseam

    175 pounds
    Is 32" your ACTUAL inseam? My pants inseam is around 32-33" while my actual inseam is somewhere between 33.5" and 34" If your actual inseam is more like 34" I think you would need to step up to the 20" frame. It seems like you have long legs compared to your torso, so perhaps you would need a shorter stem on the 20" frame to get the correct reach. To figure it all out, run through the wrench science fitting guide and compare the results to the geometry data on the Giant site.

    http://www.wrenchscience.com/WS1/Sec...ing/Height.asp
    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/cat...&modelid=11149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan
    Is 32" your ACTUAL inseam? My pants inseam is around 32-33" while my actual inseam is somewhere between 33.5" and 34" If your actual inseam is more like 34" I think you would need to step up to the 20" frame. It seems like you have long legs compared to your torso, so perhaps you would need a shorter stem on the 20" frame to get the correct reach. To figure it all out, run through the wrench science fitting guide and compare the results to the geometry data on the Giant site.

    http://www.wrenchscience.com/WS1/Sec...ing/Height.asp
    http://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/cat...&modelid=11149
    32" is actual, my pants are usually 30-31" inseam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkiv808
    32" is actual, my pants are usually 30-31" inseam.
    18". They have a longish top tube, and you can always run the seatpost out some.

    I'm 6'2" with a 34" inseam and ride between 19" and 20", and I wouldn't want to go any larger than that. So the 18" should be a better fit. You wouldn't want to be super stretched out, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkiv808
    32" is actual, my pants are usually 30-31" inseam.
    Go with the 18" then.
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    Cool, called them and they have them in stock. Friend agreed to buy it, so I will probably make the purchase in about a week when I have the cash.

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    Hmm, if I was doing less XC I would get this, but it's 41 lbs according to Gary Fisher.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    Still, great deal at $1000 if no one bids.

    These seem like great deals too, but I'm reluctant to buy ~40 lbs bikes, since I want good climbing.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkiv808
    Hmm, if I was doing less XC I would get this, but it's 41 lbs according to Gary Fisher.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    Still, great deal at $1000 if no one bids.

    These seem like great deals too, but I'm reluctant to buy ~40 lbs bikes, since I want good climbing.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
    No, 41 pounds is very heavy, even for an AM bike. I consider mine to be heavy at 34 pounds. It's overbuilt to handle my weight, so I just consider the few extra pounds as a trade off.

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