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    Freeride/xc frame

    ok im probably going to need a new frame soon enough so i was wondering what is a good dual suspsension bike that will handle xc racing, but will also take drops of 2-5 feet
    a bike that can take the tough stuff but is dual suspension

    i was thinking the norco six three but #1 doubt i could get the frame alone and #2 its a little pricey

    i know this question has probably been asked alot but im lazy to look

    i dont want a dh bike because i use my mountainbike as a road bike aswell so something with more a xc profile/geometry if it exists my current frame is a gry fisher joshua so something similar in shape to that maybe,

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    I really liked the cove hustler!
    CAn build it pretty heaby (~34 lbs) and jump/4x and beat the pissout of it

    or build it to 27 lbs XC racer if you want!

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    I'd suggest that a Transition Preston.... would serve your needs well.... and be kind on your wallet....
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    ye i like the preston but i thought it was purely freeride

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    It is not purely freeride but the frame is pretty beefy an I think weighs almost 9 lbs!
    That is quite a bit for racing XC on?!?!
    MAybe not even the weight so much as the geo...it is pretty slack.
    However, you could put a pike or something on it and bring it down a good bit. Just watch the pedals

    BTW, I think the preston is an awesome bike...maybe just a little overkill for what you want!

    Just my .02

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    lolz weight is of NO issue to me infact for me it seems the heavier the faster im scary fast and have fast cadence which is weird because i can maintain top speed for 2-3 miles with no slowdown yet i cant jog a mile...but thats of topic suffice to say i dont care how much it weighs aslong as it isnt a pure dh/dirtjumping rig or a pure xc racing rig and has dual suspension know what i mean? kinda like the transition preston

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    can i use a yakuza for xc?

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    Secialized SJ for 2-3 foot drops,Enduro for any thing more

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    Take your pic from the above. Not sure about the XC "racing" part though!
    It's asking a bit much to cover road riding right through to Freeride on a single bike. I'd put together a cheap road bike for the tarmac. It will be miles faster than anything built for serious off-road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by potvinwannab
    ok im probably going to need a new frame soon enough so i was wondering what is a good dual suspsension bike that will handle xc racing, but will also take drops of 2-5 feet
    a bike that can take the tough stuff but is dual suspension

    i was thinking the norco six three but #1 doubt i could get the frame alone and #2 its a little pricey

    i know this question has probably been asked alot but im lazy to look

    i dont want a dh bike because i use my mountainbike as a road bike aswell so something with more a xc profile/geometry if it exists my current frame is a gry fisher joshua so something similar in shape to that maybe,

    If you want a cheap and capable frame, look into the Kona Dawg, Giant Reign, and Azonic Saber at Wheel World.com. All three can take abuse and are very cheap right now. The Santa Cruz Heckler is another good frame at a decent price point.

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    I use my Enduro Elite, just run it with Nevegal 2.1's to lower the rolling resistance when riding XC.
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    Ventana X5
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    Take your pic from the above. Not sure about the XC "racing" part though!
    It's asking a bit much to cover road riding right through to Freeride on a single bike. I'd put together a cheap road bike for the tarmac. It will be miles faster than anything built for serious off-road
    then you obviously dont know me i guess im faster then i thought, because i always used my other bike for road biking aswell as trails and the skate park sometimes all in the same day! it was a department store bike so i dont know if it means anything, it even had 1.95 upfront and 2.125 in the back and could reach maybe 35-40 k on the road if it was slightly sloped meaybe 30 on flats and 60+ downhill, but it climbed like sh!t, literally dragged me down from the top, but hey it weighed 60 pounds

    ok those all sound like my kind of frame except the turner i dont like 4 bar suspension, maybe more of those bikes do but im too lazy to look but eh the preston looks like its for me, but i like the enduro

    what do you think of a yakuza if i ran 2.1 inches in the front and back for xc/road?

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    how long is that sale at wheelworld goin on those are CRAZY good prices...better than ebay

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    giant vt3 looks nice?
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    I would say Heckler

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    Another one for the Heckler here.

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    i wanted a yakuza but im guessing its not good for xc, the heckler is kind of wimpy looking, the preston is really nice and price is right, but the giants prices are even more right

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    Heckler...wimpy looking?

    Quote Originally Posted by potvinwannab
    i wanted a yakuza but im guessing its not good for xc, the heckler is kind of wimpy looking, the preston is really nice and price is right, but the giants prices are even more right
    Bwaaaaaah! If you think a Heckler looks wimpy, you may be missing what makes a bike strong...or your eyeglass prescription ran out. Hey...I'm just jacking with ya, but I think you might be confusing some elements of frame design as they apply to frame strength. The Preston that has been mentioned is very stout, but it does lean heavily toward the FR spectrum, and its weight shows it. You may be very tough...as you have mentioned quite clearly a couple of times ...but an extremely heavy bike is kryptonite to Superman when you try to use it for everything. Get or build yourself a 30-33 pound 5" bike, and you'll be much happier if you're really going to try to "do it all" on one bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potvinwannab

    i know this question has probably been asked alot but im lazy to look

    Uhh, yeah..

    Also too lazy to type, too lazy to think, I guess the world needs its McDonald's Employees.
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    Get a Heckler!
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    I don't know about the Heckler being wimpy looking...
    (With apologies to steelduck & sov for using their pics)
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    Titus Moto Lite

    Some requirements were:
    - ... will handle xc racing
    - ... will also take drops of 2-5 feet
    - ... i dont want a dh bike because i use my mountainbike as a road bike as well
    - ... something with more a xc profile/geometry

    I'm very surprised no one named the Moto Lite immediately. Its easy to build a sub-30 lbs ride, it has xc geometry, it can handle up to a 145 mm fork, has adjustable 4" or 5" rear suspension and is competitively priced.

    The requirements seem like they could have come right out of a Titus catalog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    Bwaaaaaah! If you think a Heckler looks wimpy, you may be missing what makes a bike strong...or your eyeglass prescription ran out. .
    This is the same kid that was arguing about putting a big hit shock on a joshua frame.

    Pot - Including the frames already mentioned, you could consider a Preston Dirtbag or a Stinky for better freeride characteristics. But really, any of the frames already mentioned will work fine for you.

    How much do you weigh?

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    My Preston puts a smile on my face everytime I ride it. She's a bit on the heavy side at 39.6 pounds but I knew that when I went with the parts I did. There are tons of people running Prestons' in the low 30's. That being said it's nimble on the trail and is confidence inspiring on drops and jumps. Putting an adjustable travel fork like the 36 talas makes it both climb and decend well.

    As far as the Heckler looking wimpy i'd have to agree although in practice it's proven itself to take the hits. I have a few friends that have them and they are solid and even considered one myself. I'd say Heckler and Preston are both top contenders in their category but if you lean towared the XC/Climb but still love the down side go with the Heckler, if you lean towards the freeride/DH side but still need to climb go with the Preston.
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    Here's a 29.9 pound Preston so you can see intended build makes a huge difference.
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    hey lets not start another argument here
    i was just saying the heckler LOOKS wimpy but im sure its a strong frame
    lolz i guess your right i have no idea how much the preston would end up weighing

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    o.O thats not the same heckler i saw...damn thats nice

    the one i saw had an air shock

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    Damn, Slim...I'm impressed you got that Preston to that weight...cool. What wheelset/tire setup you got there? Oh...I just noticed the air shock on there too. In fact I can't see the jump in weight on the 40lb. version between those two. This Bullit pictured here weighs 41lbs. with some pretty beefy wheels and tires...and of course you probably already know that the fork on this Bullit weighs more than the frame alone. Where's the weight on that 40lb. Preston?

    Transition makes some of the beefiest frames around. Even at that, I was surprised to see a large Dirtbag w/coil shock tip the scales at 12lbs. The guy we built it for now has that Monster T from my Bullit on it, and he rips some stuff on it. Mean FR machine.
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    I dont think you can go wrong with a specialized Enduro, if you can get it frame only its perfect for your needs.

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    what about a cannondale prophet, 5.5 with adjustable geometry

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    check out the Chumba xcl..thing handles like a dream!!

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    +1 on the Prophet.

    The Prophet MX/4x frames have a thru-12 in the rear, too.

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    ok people i already got a new frame and though it wont serve as both a dh/xc rig i already have a joshua to handle xc and now my newest addition the devinci guzzler for my dh/fr rig and a bmx for beating around thank you everyone for participating in my thread and lending me your opinions

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