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    Fox D.O.S.S. dropper seatpost coming in March 2012

    Check out the sixth blurb down here:

    "Fox says its long-awaited DOSS dropper post will be available in March 2012. The DOSS is cable actuated, air sprung but, surprisingly, is not damped, so the action is very quick—similar to a Gravity Dropper or Specialized Command Post. Available with either 100 or 125mm of drop, the DOSS is a three-position post—it offers full height, full drop and a 40mm drop setting on both lengths. A small lever on the remote allows the rider to switch between full height and 40mm drop only, while the large main lever accesses all three positions. Price and weight are not finalized, but Fox says it will be competitive with similar products. Available diameters are 31.6 and 30.9"

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    I have a command post and haven't had a problem with one lever and 3 positions. That 2 lever setup takes up too much space. Wouldn't buy it on that alone.
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    I'm sure it's probably average, but I'd like to see a weight.

    I'm also pretty sure you could make it work with a different remote. That thing is a bit much.
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    I am assuming that it still actuates at the top of the post, and not on the collar?

    Really looking forward to someone making a post that the cable doesnt move with it.......

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    The lever looks cumbersome and complicated (and freakin' huge), but I like the concept.

    I have a Command Post, and I often overshoot to the bottom position the when trying to go from full extension to the middle position. With the Fox setup, you could push the small lever, plop the seat down, and be assured that you're only going into the middle position. This would require less hand/butt coordination, which can be at a premium when your brain is an oxygen-deprived state.

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    hand- butt coordination is second most important behind hand- eye coordination. maybe you should spend less time complaining about your command post and more time doing butt/ hand exercises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    hand- butt coordination is second most important behind hand- eye coordination. maybe you should spend less time complaining about your command post and more time doing butt/ hand exercises.
    Don't get me wrong, I love my Command Post. In fact, I started the "Command Post Blacklite" thread (and they said I would never amount to anything...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    I am assuming that it still actuates at the top of the post, and not on the collar?

    Really looking forward to someone making a post that the cable doesnt move with it.......
    Already do- Gravity Dropper
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Already do- Gravity Dropper
    true.....shoulda mentioned I want hydraulic as well.....

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    does it come in kashima?

    srsly, though.. you say march 2012, fox says HOPEFULLY by march 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    I am assuming that it still actuates at the top of the post, and not on the collar?

    Really looking forward to someone making a post that the cable doesnt move with it.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    I am assuming that it still actuates at the top of the post, and not on the collar?

    Really looking forward to someone making a post that the cable doesnt move with it.......

    I'm with you on this - this post doesn't have anything to offer me that my currents posts don't do, and the pics I've seen make the remote and the way the cable attaches to the post appear cludgy and fragile at best.

    Love my Reverb - except for having the hose flopping about. Love my Gravity Dropper Turbo - except the preset stops - but the cable being static is nice.

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    That lever looks HUGE!
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    Looks like mid Summer

    I talked to Fox today and they said it would be "introduced" at Sea Otter. They will start taking orders after that and delivery will be June- ish.
    Bummer, I need something before that.

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    Honestly....

    This looks terrible. 3 positions, complicated awkward looking remote.

    Certainly doesn't look like a step up from what's on the market, unless it is 100% bullet proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDCA View Post
    Honestly....

    This looks terrible. 3 positions, complicated awkward looking remote.

    Certainly doesn't look like a step up from what's on the market, unless it is 100% bullet proof.
    my reverb has been issue free for its existence. can't compete with that. even if the fox was better, i'd have no reason to switch. if they can somehow make it 100-200g lighter, then they might be on to something.
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    I should say that I have a KS i900 that has been perfect for the last year. The DOSS looks like a step down from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDCA View Post
    Honestly....

    This looks terrible. 3 positions, complicated awkward looking remote.

    Certainly doesn't look like a step up from what's on the market, unless it is 100% bullet proof.
    It's one of those things that comes out, you look at and think- all engineering, never tested by an actual user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    I am assuming that it still actuates at the top of the post, and not on the collar?

    Really looking forward to someone making a post that the cable doesnt move with it.......
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    true.....shoulda mentioned I want hydraulic as well.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    Seems like a possible winner, but no N.A. rep/distribution/support.

    Was eyeballing one of those a while back from the only U.S. guys I know who were dealing with them. They have since pulled out of the U.S. market, or been dropped - not sure which.

    Kinda' wish I'd bought on back then, just to have some actual data about the thing.
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    Yeah, i know about the lack of distributors. Although it is easily worked around to get the thing . . . not so easy if you have a problem and need service, which lets be honest, in the world of adjustable posts is probable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDCA View Post
    Honestly....

    This looks terrible. 3 positions, complicated awkward looking remote.

    Certainly doesn't look like a step up from what's on the market, unless it is 100% bullet proof.
    Truth! For being this late to the game, I would have thought Fox would have something better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkrobe View Post
    Truth! For being this late to the game, I would have thought Fox would have something better.
    Agreed . . . pretty disappointed in Fox on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkrobe View Post
    Truth! For being this late to the game, I would have thought Fox would have something better.
    +1. they didnt even seem to make any improvement over the current offerings.

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    cable routing should be at the bottom imo

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    Sad to see FOX come to the market with this,

    I forget where I saw it, but there's an adjustable seatpost maker that runs the hose up through the bottom of the seatpost for cleaner look, it was for a new bike coming out in 2012/13. I forget, but it looked slick. Maybe in MBA a couple months ago.....

    I have to say my X fusion HiLo has been FLAWLESS!!! The wife has the Blacklight, and it's a pain in the ass compared to the HiLo. The preset pins always seems to get stuck and you have to give it a little "extra bump" to get it out and pop up or down. Adjusted the psi and still is giving her fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedal-man View Post
    Sad to see FOX come to the market with this,

    I forget where I saw it, but there's an adjustable seatpost maker that runs the hose up through the bottom of the seatpost for cleaner look, it was for a new bike coming out in 2012/13. I forget, but it looked slick. Maybe in MBA a couple months ago.....

    I have to say my X fusion HiLo has been FLAWLESS!!! The wife has the Blacklight, and it's a pain in the ass compared to the HiLo. The preset pins always seems to get stuck and you have to give it a little "extra bump" to get it out and pop up or down. Adjusted the psi and still is giving her fits.

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    that would be the Rock Shox Reverb Stealth you saw. they worked with some companies to integrate specific routing into frames for the hose to come up from the bottom of the seat tube eliminating moving slack when the post moves,

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    Here are some pics from the Core Bike Show. As you can see it's still actuated at the top of the post.

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    I agree the lever looks naff but I read somewhere that you should be able to fit it underneath the bars, so if you're running a 1x10 set up just stick where your shifter used to be.

    The cable routing is another matter. Unless Fox pulls it out the bag with awesome reliability, that cable routing will put most off in the premium dropper post market.

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    Really dislike the remote....kind of disappointed in fox, its taken them so long to get into the game and I am not seeing any real "innovation". Maybe it will be a solid unit, but right now I am having trouble getting on-board, we will see in the months to come.

    I am holing out for the KS lev - I like the stationary cable routing....

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    I haven't browsed the adjustable seatpost thread in a while (got tired of waiting for it to load ), but now I see there's a lot of new designs in the works.

    The D.O.S.S. looks like it could give the current generation Reverb and the Blacklite a run for their money. I'm assuming the quality will be on par with Fox's forks and shocks.

    Fox deserves credit for thoroughly testing the product to iron out all the bugs before bringing it to market (to avoid disasters like the early Joplins). However, it looks like they blew it by taking too long. This post will be halfway obsolete by the time it finally hits the shelves.

    Stationary cable posts like the KS Lev, Reverb Stealth, and the new CB post will be on the market shortly. I predict that the current generation of posts (where the cable attaches to the moving part of the post) will be going the way of the V-brake soon.

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    First ride reviews are out... And aren't great.

    Heavy, expensive, big clumsy remote, moving cable...

    Fox really crapped the bed on this one.

    Fox DOSS = Damn Our Seatpost Sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDCA View Post
    First ride reviews are out... And aren't great.

    Heavy, expensive, big clumsy remote, moving cable...

    Fox really crapped the bed on this one.

    Fox DOSS = Damn Our Seatpost Sucks
    I just saw the little Sea Otter blurb on it. It's too bad really. I had high hopes for it.

    I like your DOSS interpretation, LOL
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    Hell know am i spending the price of a fork on a dropper post........lol I was considering not putting one on my new am bike given that they cost around $250 let alone $439........

    What was fox thinking they need to retract the DOSS before its to late!!!!!....

    My question is how can a dropper post cost more than a fork?????

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    Wow $439? I think a Reverb might start sounding like a good value.
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    $439 is insane.

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    Fox is losing it...

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    The guys I ride with today were making fun of me today for not even lowering my masterpiece seatpost before the more gnarly stuff

    That said, the DOSS was maybe going to be my first look at the dropper post stuff. I just can't see ANY of them being that much of an improvement over a regular post... really? I know people get addicted to them and stuff but really?
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO View Post
    $439 is insane.
    And no Kashima.

    Glad I didn't wait and scooped up a '12 Reverb for under $300.
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    Got to see it in action today . . . the lever is quite possibly the worst design I've seen in an adjustable post yet. The "dual lever" is simply put: stupid. One lever for a partial drop and a second lever for all the way down and back up. The seat must be weighted to remove rotational play, but once weighted is firm. The return rate is fast . . . as in "jewel thumper" fast. This can supposedly be adjusted, but this is at 20psi (per the rep).

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    Looking forward to September.

    Thomson will be releasing their own dropper after 2 years R&D.

    Handlebars next? Possibly so.

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    this is the first i've heard of a thomson drop post. i'll be all over that. my reverb has never done me wrong, but neither has my thomson.
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    Well, it's gonna be one crowded handlebar, the Fox team racers will have this year.

    For an AM ride, we are talking 2 levers for the suspension, 1 for the dropper post, 2 for the drivetrain,

    plus the brakes.

    The good news are that Easton just released a 800mm bar


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    I would like to see a dropper post that weighs close to a standard post and/or a lower price. I can't see too many other innovations coming to this arena.

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    with Fox dropping this big turd on the market, i'm glad I got a Reverb... i love Fox forks and shocks, but they seriously dropped the ball on this seatpost... probably some intern project that management latched on to and pushed to market half-baked...

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    it'll sell.
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    Looks like it's been in development for two years. I kind of like the looks of the original lever but the post mostly looks like it started out. I'm sure the internals are different:
    Sept. 2011 here:
    Fox Racing Shox DOSS Seat Post | MTBR Interbike Coverage

    Sept 2010 here:
    Interbike 2010: Prototype Fox Shox Adjustable Seatpost - Mountain Biking Pictures - Vital MTB
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Looks like it's been in development for two years. I kind of like the looks of the original lever but the post mostly looks like it started out. I'm sure the internals are different:
    Sept. 2011 here:
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    Sept 2010 here:
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    Oh, I didn't realize it's been under development for two years.

    In that case I agree it is pi$$ poor to not have solved just one single issue.

    To get the cable mount down to the base, would be fairly simple to solve.
    Having only 3 points of preset height, is also not ok any longer. Must be at least possible to offer ability to lock at any point. That also should not cause too many sleepless nights to a respectable engineer.

    That it is too heavy as well, and that lever looks like the first thing that will break in a crash, does nothing good for the general impression in my book.

    Maybe it's time to seek employment at the Fox R&D


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    I asked about placing the lever upside down as well and of course you can do it . . . but not with any sort of shifter which essentially means a 1x set-up, grip shift or single-speed.

    Fox seriously messed this one up.
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