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    Favorite short travel AM fork?

    What's your favorite short travel AM fork? (90-150mm) as rough guide.
    And why do you like it better than a long travel?

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    Rockshox PIKE is a traditional favorite - not sure what the newest model iteration is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero View Post
    Rockshox PIKE is a traditional favorite - not sure what the newest model iteration is though.
    Either the Sektor or the Revelation.

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    I have a Pike 454 Air, Great fork. I would assume it is much like the Revelation, in terms of performance.

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    IIRC, Sektor is the pike replacement, on the coil/solo air side. Same weight, internals, etc.

    The Revelation has gone from their 120mm trail fork (when the Pike was introduced as a long travel AM fork) to being their light weight "trail" fork - now up to 150mm, and available with the Maxle. And I think they only do air versions of this, most coming in well under 4lbs.

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    Dropped Lyrik 150mm Solo Air with Mission Control DH cartridge. Light and stiff.

    Last edited by edispilf; 08-11-2011 at 09:01 AM.

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    don't get the "why do you like it more than a long travel?" what? you mean as opposed to the next step of 10mm to 160 or do you mean 180mm big bike mode? with no real compromise to geo then I wouldn't. Getting less travel on an "am" trail that can stack me into a pile doesn't make sense to me.

    but the right answer is on edisplif's rig!
    although the X-Fusion Vengeances "stepped down" would be right up there for me.

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    White Brothers LOOP TCR 150. Feels like a downsized DH fork - highly tunable, rides high in it's travel (but maintains supple feel), super stiff chassis, and has the best axle system on the market. I'm totally biased (I work for WB), but I honestly feel it's been quite the privilege to have been on this fork for a year now!

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    imo the 140 argyl rct repaced the pike. the rev couldnt have because it was already in the line up and the sektor is basically a budget rev.

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    I'm getting stoked up to buy a Revelation XX in a couple weeks. All my friends who have had Fox 32's with any more than 100mm of travel always complain that their 4-years-older Reba or Pike feels way better.
    Go ride your bike.

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    The 140 Argyle RCT
    Solo Air
    Motion Control
    32mm stanchions
    Alu steer
    External Rebound
    Low Speed Compression
    Tooled Floodgate
    Spring Via Air Pressure

    The Sektor RL in 130, 140, or 150
    Solo Air
    Motion Control
    32mm stanchions
    Alu steer
    External Rebound
    Low Speed Compression
    External Floodgate and Lockout
    Spring via Air Pressure

    Its the same fork, except the Sektor has all the different versions like the Pike (coil, uturn coil, solo air, dual air, uturn air, etc), where the Argyle is only available in 1 configuration.

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    Honestly, from what I've heard about the Revelation, I'd load up one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    imo the 140 argyl rct repaced the pike. the rev couldnt have because it was already in the line up and the sektor is basically a budget rev.
    The top end Sektors are a more or less direct replacement to the old Pike. Same damper, coil and air available, broadly similar pricing but new uppers and lowers with post mount.

    PS: a 20mm Reba 100/120, strong as you like and won't suck up your momentum. Now pair it with a Blur 4x and away we go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado View Post
    White Brothers LOOP TCR 150. Feels like a downsized DH fork
    Is that a Five I see in your photo there?
    If yes how do you get on with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade View Post
    Is that a Five I see in your photo there?
    If yes how do you get on with him?
    It's tremendous. The geometry is wonderful, the quality is superb, and I never see any others on the trail. Strong like bull too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado View Post
    I never see any others on the trail.
    That's 'cos hardly any make it out the UK, there's a three month waiting list and mine's somewhere near the bottom, booo

    Glad you're liking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado View Post
    White Brothers LOOP TCR 150. Feels like a downsized DH fork - highly tunable, rides high in it's travel (but maintains supple feel), super stiff chassis, and has the best axle system on the market. I'm totally biased (I work for WB), but I honestly feel it's been quite the privilege to have been on this fork for a year now!

    Rainmaker? ^^^^^

    I currently have a pike coil and its been a great fork. I'm sure the revelations and sektors are sweet as well.

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    I guess my favorite "short-travel AM" fork is the Pike U-turn. Been using one since they first came out. Very adjustable and can set the travel at anything between 95-140mm.

    But then I just put my Lyrik U-turn on my "big" hardtail. That is super nice with big stanchions and adjustable from 115-160mm. I have it set at 130mm. And it may not weigh much more than the Pike.

    Obviously, I am a big fan of Rockshox coil u-turns because they can be used for lots of different riding styles, and are very adjustable to set appropriately for the ride and the bike.

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    I have a sektor solo air. Did a lot of research and the result was : Fox, nice but way overpriced, revelation, killer fork but sektor offers 95 percent of the performance for a lot less. Been running my sektor for about 3 months now and best for I've ever had. Can't beat that for for the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade View Post
    The top end Sektors are a more or less direct replacement to the old Pike. Same damper, coil and air available, broadly similar pricing but new uppers and lowers with post mount.

    PS: a 20mm Reba 100/120, strong as you like and won't suck up your momentum. Now pair it with a Blur 4x and away we go!
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    RS Revelation is an AMAZING fork. I bought one for my AM hardtail and liked it so much, I replaced the Fox 36 Float on my dually rig with another one. Plushes, more tunable, light, simple - brilliant fork.

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    What exactly does the Motion Control add? I have the proprietary Pike for the Specialized Pitch (the 327 iirc) which lacks it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilirubin View Post
    What exactly does the Motion Control add? I have the proprietary Pike for the Specialized Pitch (the 327 iirc) which lacks it.
    It's their lockout/ blowoff / adjustable floodgate system. I believe you can add it to the fork you have.

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    I can't see to find many reviews on this fork? Any magazine review or comparative testing done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahColorado View Post
    White Brothers LOOP TCR 150. Feels like a downsized DH fork - highly tunable, rides high in it's travel (but maintains supple feel), super stiff chassis, and has the best axle system on the market. I'm totally biased (I work for WB), but I honestly feel it's been quite the privilege to have been on this fork for a year now!


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    Fox 32 Vanilla 130mm QR
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireball_jones View Post
    It's their lockout/ blowoff / adjustable floodgate system. I believe you can add it to the fork you have.
    Yeah I think so. I honestly don't know what those things are supposed to do for me, other than the lockout. Its only my second year riding, and only now am I even appreciating what different rebound settings can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilirubin View Post
    What exactly does the Motion Control add? I have the proprietary Pike for the Specialized Pitch (the 327 iirc) which lacks it.
    (Disclaimer: the following is a simplified explanation)

    MC is an adjustable compression damper unit. There are two versions of it. Both have adjustable compression damping, and both have a high speed blow-off. The nicer version lets you adjust the blow off speed (this is known as the "floodgate" adjustment), on the cheaper version, the floodgate level is pre-set, and not user-adjustable. The Pike MC is the nicer version.

    Here is a post where I go into a stupid amount of detail in how the nicer version works from a user point of view. I have since changed my mind about which settings I like, but the basic explanation is still valid:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspen....html#poststop

    The MC unit is a very easy, and relatively inexpensive modification. Just buy the MC unit (I paid $40 for the last one I bought a couple of years ago), and swap it out for whatever is currently screwed in the to top of the right leg. If I owned your fork, it is the first thing I would do. It will give you all the performance of the rest of the Pike lineup.
    15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireball_jones View Post
    It's their lockout/ blowoff / adjustable floodgate system. I believe you can add it to the fork you have.
    You missed the key part, it's a compression damper. All the other stuff listed are 'bonus' features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta View Post
    (Disclaimer: the following is a simplified explanation)

    MC is an adjustable compression damper unit. There are two versions of it. Both have adjustable compression damping, and both have a high speed blow-off. The nicer version lets you adjust the blow off speed (this is known as the "floodgate" adjustment), on the cheaper version, the floodgate level is pre-set, and not user-adjustable. The Pike MC is the nicer version.

    Here is a post where I go into a stupid amount of detail in how the nicer version works from a user point of view. I have since changed my mind about which settings I like, but the basic explanation is still valid:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspen....html#poststop

    The MC unit is a very easy, and relatively inexpensive modification. Just buy the MC unit (I paid $40 for the last one I bought a couple of years ago), and swap it out for whatever is currently screwed in the to top of the right leg. If I owned your fork, it is the first thing I would do. It will give you all the performance of the rest of the Pike lineup.
    Wow, awesome couple of posts, thanks! This the bad boy I'm going to need for the 327?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilirubin View Post
    Wow, awesome couple of posts, thanks! This the bad boy I'm going to need for the 327?
    That's the one
    15mm is a second-best solution to a problem that was already solved.

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    Can't say anything bad about the 130mm Magura Menja.

    Did wonderfully tearing up all the black diamonds and a handful double diamonds at Whister.

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    what about DT swiss exm or exc series?

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    Pike U turn
    Adjustable, stiff, awesome coil feel/plushness and straightforward compression damping/lock out.

    I think the direct successor to the Pike is not the Sektor but the Argyle RCT as someone mentioned. It still uses the bomber pike lowers, alloy uppers and is adjustable out to 140mm, I bet it'd be easy to retrofit a u turn coil into one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge View Post
    what about DT swiss exm or exc series?
    I had an exc150 back when they still had the 20mm axle. It was really nice, at least as much as my previous Pike / Revelation and later Float 140 with the fit cartridge and 15mm axle.

    The new ones should be further improved.

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    'Zoke 140 RC3 Ti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kapusta View Post
    That's the one
    Bought it. We shall see how hard it is to tune once I get it.

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    it's the pike!

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    My vote to for the RS Pike as well.

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    I've had my 2011 Revelation XX DualAir for a few weeks now and LOVE it. Super plush and supple but still rides high in the travel and doesn't blow through to bottom out.

    The hydraulic BlackBox Motion Control is pretty sick. Adjusting the knob on the lockout switch acts as a compression damper while in the open setting while also changing the stiffness of the lockout for pedaling.

    Plus it's sexy, stiff, available in 9/15/20mm options, and under 4 lbs. MMMMM tasty!
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    Marzocchi 44 rc3 ti. Beyond amazing, the only short travel fork I can ride like I stole it. Float and revelation are nice, but are long travel xc forks. Zoke is a baby dh fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edispilf View Post
    Dropped Lyrik 150mm Solo Air with Mission Control DH cartridge. Light and stiff.
    this is definitely gonna be my next fork, how much did it set you back if you don't mind me asking, getting quite tired of my Fox 32 Talas.
    is it easy enough to lower the Lyrik to 150mm?

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    Rock Shox Pike U-turn coil for sure! Tactile, durable, reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kresj View Post
    this is definitely gonna be my next fork, how much did it set you back if you don't mind me asking, getting quite tired of my Fox 32 Talas.
    is it easy enough to lower the Lyrik to 150mm?
    I started with Fox 32 Float after a season I sold it and got the Lyrik. You can really tell the difference between 32 vs 35 mm stanchion plus QR vs 20 thru axle.

    The fork was originally an 08 lyrik solo air with $1.50 plastic washer from Ace hardware, 3mm thick each total of 9mm. Then I remove the floodgate to get better oil flow then this year I gutted it out and put a new Mission Control DH with matching rebound. Cost was about $170 for the damper and rebound.

    Lowering it is simple just remove the lower leg and place the spacer on the spring side. SRAM should have a tech manual for it..

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    funny that the more popular fork is one that's discontinued.


    I love my pike, even if it's labeled as a 2009 revelation.
    affect befect cefect defect effect fect

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    funny that the more popular fork is one that's discontinued.


    I love my pike, even if it's labeled as a 2009 revelation.
    Ditto
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    wish i never had gotten rid of my uturnpike BA fork
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilirubin View Post
    Bought it. We shall see how hard it is to tune once I get it.
    OK, so, a funny thing happened on the way to the trails yesterday...

    Stopped off to my LBS (Calgary Cycle) to get my ghetto Pike 327 upgraded with the compression damper/floodgate. They opened up the fork to drop it in and...no oil. Then they noticed the rebound control knob just spins and doesn't actually adjust the rebound. Holy crap, cheap part upgrade now means new fork?!?

    I mentioned how the knob kind of falls off on its own, and he took it off and peered into it--no hex screw. Rebound cartridge is fine after all! Hurray! So, new seal kit and rebuild and this thing is working the way it is supposed to! I guess. What do I know, I'm a noob--my other bike has a SRSuntour XCC fork that really is a pogo stick so I don't know how proper motion should feel.

    As for the so called good deal I got on the damper: no free shipping to Canada (not mentioned on the outset), and shipped via UPS (so 1/4 of the value of the item is charged back to me in brokerage fees). Then a fork rebuild and new seal kit. Deal goes poof!

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