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    Fake or real carbon fiber handlebar?

    Here the pictures . So you can see a fake handlebar looks like. it s a RaceFace NEXT handlebar. The thickness of the tube is not even.
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    Ok. So why do you think it's fake?
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    Crankbro's 11 bars are not even either... doesnt mean they are "fake"

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    I dont see anything unusual about those at all.

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    That's just a sign of tooling that allowed the inside mold line contour of the bars to vary during the cure. Resin flows like water during cure and if the mold moves at all so do the resin and fibers. Most bars look the same, not a sign of fake carbon .

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    Not sure if you know what real carbon looks like...
    Every carbon bar Ive had looks just like that including my Thomson.

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    The one that I used to have , the thickness of the tube is about 3mm. And it s perfectly rounded and it s even. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore.

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    Really ? The one that I used to have it was perfectly rounded and even.

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    The thickness of the tube is supposed to be perfectly rounded and even. I believe .

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    Here the other picture.
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    One side is thicker than the other side !? I don't think it will be strong enough.

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    I used to have one and it s perfectly rounded and even.

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    How many times are you going to use the phrase "I used to" in one thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    Here the pictures . So you can see a fake handlebar looks like. it s a RaceFace NEXT handlebar. The thickness of the tube is not even.
    Where did the bar come from (store? web? location of said shop?)
    What packaging did it comewith?
    Any serial numbers or identifiers on it?

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    Fake or real carbon fiber handlebar?

    I have a easton bar that looks identical and I guarantee its real. Mine may even be a little more heavy to one side, but it has worked flawlessly for over a year and survived a few tree strikes.

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    I thought my reply did not go through .
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    I got it on eBay : ****************10Q7ebw.
    No original package . No series number or anything !
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    If referring to the lack of visible weave inside, this is normal. Nearly all carbon fiber bike parts use multiple crossing layers of Uni-Directional (UD) carbon-fiber, with no weave, as the body of the piece, it is the strongest and lightest carbon-fiber material having less resin between the stronger fibers. The visible weave on the surface of some carbon-fiber parts is less strong, but more cosmetically pleasing to some customers.

    The irregular thickness at the ends, is probably from manual finish sanding with a rotating sanding bar inside the ends. To remove sharp, glass-like splinters where customer's fingers may poke and be cut otherwise. And to give more room where maximum strength is not needed to more easily fit common bar end caps that come with grips, caps which are also used with thinner walled metal bars.

    Nice looking bar.

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    Cool. This one might not pass the QC and they don't destroy but just sell it cheap .

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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    No original package . No series number or anything !
    Probably fake then.

    Even if it was an OE part it should have a manufacturer's serial printed on it somewhere and some packaging with another number to mark it's origin.

    I'd send Raceface an Email with some pictures and ask them, if they confirm it then report it to ebay and try for your money back.

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    If I were to design a carbon bar to take asymmetric loads, I'd at least consider building it so that the thicknesses are also asymmetric to take advantage of opportunities to reduce weight where it can be done. Maybe that's what they have done. Doesn't look fake to me.

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    Thanks i sent it back to the ebay seller already. He promised to refund . Let wait and see.

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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have a next bar with that looks identical to that.

    I guarantee it is real because I acquired it from raceface direct.

    Too bad you sent away a perfectly good bar.

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    Fake or real carbon fiber handlebar?

    I better go saw my ibis HD frame in half to make sure it's "real"

    This thread makes me laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    The one that I used to have , the thickness of the tube is about 3mm. And it s perfectly rounded and it s even. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore.
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    Really ? The one that I used to have it was perfectly rounded and even.
    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    The thickness of the tube is supposed to be perfectly rounded and even. I believe .
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    One side is thicker than the other side !? I don't think it will be strong enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    I used to have one and it s perfectly rounded and even.
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    Cool. This one might not pass the QC and they don't destroy but just sell it cheap .
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    Thanks i sent it back to the ebay seller already. He promised to refund . Let wait and see.
    As someone who works with carbon fiber, I can tell you that is real carbon fiber and it is plenty strong for handlebars. Feel free to ignore all of the advice you got after you asked a question. These bars were probably New Over stock which sellers cant legally sell at MSRP. Thats why they put it on ebay.

    Also, were your old bars perfectly rounded and even? There are somethings that I have to have perfectly rounded and even but handlebars not one of them.
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    Ok here is my lesson that I learned. The real vs counterfeit ? The real has serial number and the fake wont. (Some fake has but just random #) You send the serial # to manufacture so they can check. I believe most of counterfeit product is just something simple which has low cost investment. Ibis mojo HD is a high tech bike!!!! Lol they won't copy. I hope, but check if your ibis HD has serial number lol. 😜

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    Make sure the internal tube is round and even!!!!! Lol 😀

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    Just wondered why mines have no serial number. that s why I sent all back.

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    the shed is out sharp tools he wants carbon.

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    You should buy a new carbon frame on ebay and then cut it in two so you can do some more investigative work. But don't stop there, I think you're going to need to follow up on this for every single component that comes in carbon: cranks, seatpost, bashguards!

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    Good idea but if I cut I can't return. 😢

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    Not all parts have a serial # on them.

    I wonder if the people making the parts have more knowledge about carbon fiber than you do? Nah, that cant be.
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    I dont mind if Most small parts have no serial # but big component parts should .😉and this product is not cheap.

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    Do they really put serial numbers on carbon handlebars? Really?
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    Some do some Dont . I believe anything that costs over $100 should have #.
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    Here a perfect round and even carbon fiber internal tube.

    It should look like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    Some does some wont. I believe anything that costs over $100 should have #.
    If some do, what brands can you name? Seriously, I'm curious because that seems nuts to me but then I've never really looked. I guess it'd make sense if they're tracking defects to production runs.

    I'm also curious because I can't tell if the serial number idea was just thrown out there at the start of this thread and carried forward as truth, or if in fact you should have a serial number on your Race Face Next handlebar.
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    Let me uninstall the grips then I ll show you later . Here one I found on the web.
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    Typically Handlebars don't have any serial # on them. I have bought many bars, both direct and off of ebay sellers. I have never seen a serial # on them.

    Race Face carbon bars are all made in a Taiwanese factory. I am pretty sure all three bars that you bought look legit. They might not be THE BEST quality, but that is what you get when you have Taiwan QC.

    Honestly I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about.

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    Good luck with your typical handlebars. Hope you don't break them soon.😜

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    I have 3 Easton bars sitting in my garage, two EC70's and an EC90. None of them look uneven or of varying wall thickness w/ tool marks on the ends. All three have serial numbers and bar codes on them, as well.
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    Real serial numbers? If I were you I would email those # to Easton so they can confirm . Only if you were curious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    Real serial numbers? If I were you I would email those # to Easton so they can confirm . Only if you were curious!
    I have no reason to doubt their authenticity. All were obtained from reliable sources and arrived in lovely Easton packaging, complete w/ warranty info, appropriate product literature, and Easton carbon paste.

    I have never seen carbon bars with unfinshed ends and uneven wall thickness like what you have depicted, not even on the cheap Merek (Taiwan) carbon bars from Ebay.
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    Thanks. For your reply. That s was I worried about the uneven wall! It s not safe for descending rides and bumps or any rides . Lol My local bike trail has lot of cliffs. And it s dangerous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
    Typically Handlebars don't have any serial # on them. I have bought many bars, both direct and off of ebay sellers. I have never seen a serial # on them.
    Yep, typically handlebars do not come with serial numbers. Maybe a few brands do, but typically, they do not.
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    Here the serial number look like on Easton EC 90 SL carbon fiber handlebar.
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    Sweet Christ on a cracker sandwich!

    Some companies have serial numbers on bars and stems, some do not. Get over it. Companies have manufacturing variances. Some parts meet QC, some do not. Some of the percentage that do not meet QC get snagged by resellers. Yours may or may not have been one. I also suspect you got a "real" bar, and are just freaking out over something most of us seem to think you shouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    Here the serial number look like on Easton EC 90 SL carbon fiber handlebar.
    So your point is that easton has a sticker? Does everyone?
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    Why? Why must this awful, pointless, inane, utterly idiotic and irrelevant thread continue? WHY! G5 must be stopped!

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    If I peel my sticker/SN off my bar, does it void the warranty? I know it will make me faster as it will weigh less......

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