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    New question here. The END of all mountain?

    Recently my bike went through some changes.

    It is no longer a free ride bike and now must be counted as an "all mountain" bike.

    I like to ride hard but don't want to push my bike too far.

    So my question is where does all mountain end and free ride begin?? If there is a grey area i want to be out of it and play it safe. My bike can now only handle all mountain riding, and I don't want to hurt hurt my self doing more then it can take.

    More specifically is this drop OK for an all mountain bike? Its about 8 feet up and 9 feet to the landing which is mostly flat.

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    so is this the END of all mountain??
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    Uhmmm... yes, the END. Definitely.
    The older I get the better I was...

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    I was checkin your profile. im thinkin you could hit that on your next with grip shifters and coil shock all day long. the gusset welds and coils on nexts are hi tech.

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    You're not exactly giving us all the info here are you?
    I reckon you're just going to have to huck that drop and find out.

    I wonder how fast this thread is going to escalate...

    Hang on, wait a mo. This looks like South Foothills, no? Aren't they closed right now? Since you've got some time, my suggestion is to scrape all that stuff off your stay and then bind the pieces of metal as tightly as possible with some carbon fibre cord and epoxy. It should be quite cheap to do and it might actually then be strong enough to handle what you want to do and get you through the rest of the summer and fall riding season.
    Posting on the basis that ignorance shared is ignorance doubled.

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    I have a Next bike and I personally wood not go of that even if I was 18 again God forbid but just my old a-- opinion LOL No really don't think your Next would last long if that is what you are using.

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    I would bust that out on my XC bike.


    Its a bicycle, ride it until it fails, fix, rinse, repeat.

    All this specific bike for specific terrain crap is rediculous.

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    This is kinda true. However, ask yourself, If you have can of pepsi, Aluminum, and a can of 7up(?), steel, which would you stand on? Some things are built to handle conditions better. I mean your going to "possibly", at worst, break your frame, as long as you can live with that, ride the damn thing of that RED BULL CLIFF. I cant afford 3 or 4 bikes for people to say DH,AM,XC, defg.... Ride your bike, and I wish I could have guts to take the jump.


    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    I would bust that out on my XC bike.


    Its a bicycle, ride it until it fails, fix, rinse, repeat.

    All this specific bike for specific terrain crap is rediculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Understater View Post
    You're not exactly giving us all the info here are you?
    I reckon you're just going to have to huck that drop and find out.

    I wonder how fast this thread is going to escalate...

    Hang on, wait a mo. This looks like South Foothills, no? Aren't they closed right now? Since you've got some time, my suggestion is to scrape all that stuff off your stay and then bind the pieces of metal as tightly as possible with some carbon fibre cord and epoxy. It should be quite cheap to do and it might actually then be strong enough to handle what you want to do and get you through the rest of the summer and fall riding season.
    The SFH are partially closed. No riding on unoffical traials.

    but that drop is in one of my play grounds near las lomas de le bolsa on the way to santa fe

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    Fuglio I think if your hitting that, maybe you should be hangin out in the dh freeride forum. Not with us wannabee dh freeriders.

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    I was thinking its on the cusp..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    I would bust that out on my XC bike.


    Its a bicycle, ride it until it fails, fix, rinse, repeat.

    All this specific bike for specific terrain crap is rediculous.

    I like your additude soon it will be a hardtail drop

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    Re: The END of all mountain?

    I have seen the end of all mountain.

    To find it, one must journey seven days through the shroud of darkness, to the enchanted forest, just beyond the gnar strewn abyss. Here, beneath a purple haze, in a mystical green pool of elixir, lives the naked mermaid twin of Megan Fox. She is the guardian of the gate to the impenetrable fortress that holds the end of all mountain.

    If you are not standing in a purple haze, waist deep in green elixir, with a naked mer-twin, then you have not found the end of all mountain.

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    Who names a bike?

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    Fuglio at least in the pic the landing does not look flat! I say thats AM for sure! Remember to get good footage from all angles!

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justamember View Post
    Did you name your bike All Mountain?
    All my bikes have girls names...... the big bike is Bertha. And the hard tail is squirter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liternit View Post
    Fuglio at least in the pic the landing does not look flat! I say thats AM for sure! Remember to get good footage from all angles!

    Good luck!
    Sweet im feeling better allready. Naked mermaid status!!!

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    what frame shock and fork fuglio?. If those are up to the task, what wheelset? And that slanding look like it has significant bank. But I think I get what your saying. Its definatley a drop off that has to take a lot of brunt force. Camera angles and such can be decieving. Are you prospecting this hit or have you done it wit a bigger bike. Just cuious. I personally am not hucker like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akiracornell View Post
    what frame shock and fork fuglio?. If those are up to the task, what wheelset? And that slanding look like it has significant bank. But I think I get what your saying. Its definatley a drop off that has to take a lot of brunt force. Camera angles and such can be decieving. Are you prospecting this hit or have you done it wit a bigger bike. Just cuious. I personally am not hucker like that.
    Glad you asked!

    The frame ahas a crack that i repaired. Thats what took it from freeride to all mountain

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    The front wheel is a spank stiffy 40mm the back is a sun ringle rinolite with a 1.9 panracer tire

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    Re: The END of all mountain?

    Hit it, get video and if you can take the gopro with you if you get airlifted out....your not riding hard enough if your not breaking something everytime out.

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    Re: The END of all mountain?

    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    I have seen the end of all mountain.

    To find it, one must journey seven days through the shroud of darkness, to the enchanted forest, just beyond the gnar strewn abyss. Here, beneath a purple haze, in a mystical green pool of elixir, lives the naked mermaid twin of Megan Fox. She is the guardian of the gate to the impenetrable fortress that holds the end of all mountain.

    If you are not standing in a purple haze, waist deep in green elixir, with a naked mer-twin, then you have not found the end of all mountain.
    This should go in a 'Best Of 2013' thread.

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    Jb weld, hose clamps, and is that a piece of pipe cut in half for support?

    Hit that drop and put a go pro on the bike pointed at that fix

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    well when that breaks all the way... the welder you bring it to is going to charge you 3 times as much to undo your bootie fab...

    seriously had you just brought it to a welder they might have charged you a half hour of labor

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    Just hit it, don't worry about everyone's opinion. You know what everyone thinks from the other thread you started.

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    Just grip it and rip it
    SWING YOUR LEG OVER IT AND PEDAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan1113 View Post
    Just grip it and rip it
    Let the big dog eat!
    The cake is a lie.

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    You're supposed to do it first and ask questions later
    Chasing bears through the woods drunk with a dull hatchet is strongly not advised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    Jb weld, hose clamps, and is that a piece of pipe cut in half for support?

    Hit that drop and put a go pro on the bike pointed at that fix
    looks like a popsickle stick to me. should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Drop it with two go-pros.. one pointed at the frame fix and the other pointed at your left ankle, so we can see which one breaks first..

    You really F'd up that frame! You should have had it fixed correctly..

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    At least you won't try to jump it with your Next. I hated that bike when I owned one.
    I would not try to make any jump with that thing. If your "cheap" fix were to break, then your rear wheel would fall off and a terrible accident will occur. ouch, that will hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    Jb weld, hose clamps, and is that a piece of pipe cut in half for support?

    Hit that drop and put a go pro on the bike pointed at that fix
    Dont wory bout the Fix, It done been tested!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk77 View Post
    Drop it with two go-pros.. one pointed at the frame fix and the other pointed at your left ankle, so we can see which one breaks first..

    You really F'd up that frame! You should have had it fixed correctly..

    I only have 1 camera You can be sure ill be wearing it. But don't worry my Sensei will be bring his camera also to catch any ankle bones that might pop out on film

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    Finally, fuglio, the details we discerning readers/pro huckers need to give you the answers you seek: Go for it bro. Freeride that lil' ole all-mountain drop. Frame's f'd anyway and bones heal. Pics or it didn't happen.
    The older I get the better I was...

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    In it to win it!

    Riding it like you stole it- best thread ever!

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    Now that you've "credentialed" yourself with those vids of the other drops, why are you even asking the question? Just do it!

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    Now im busted! Told you i had to force myself to do it.... the new NS is sweet though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    Now that you've "credentialed" yourself with those vids of the other drops, why are you even asking the question? Just do it!
    Its not my credentials im worried about its the bikes. It just might not be up to it... at this point ive climed to high up on the diving board to turn around now...

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    When in is the drop saturday ou sunday? Also ask a friend to post here in case you cant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Its not my credentials im worried about its the bikes. It just might not be up to it... at this point ive climed to high up on the diving board to turn around now...
    Nonsense. You are free to change your mind about something whenever you want to. I personally think that repair you did will fail catastrophically.....i.e., all at once, with no warning.
    Why risk serious injury and disability for basically nothing? Because that's what's at stake, aside from the physical injury. Nothing.
    So, the ONLY way that you doing it makes any sense at all, at least the way I see it, is if you get some of these folks to put some MONEY on the line. Make it into some kind of "sporting" wager, or something. That would be the Ticket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    Nonsense. You are free to change your mind about something whenever you want to. I personally think that repair you did will fail catastrophically.....i.e., all at once, with no warning.
    Why risk serious injury and disability for basically nothing? Because that's what's at stake, aside from the physical injury. Nothing.
    So, the ONLY way that you doing it makes any sense at all, at least the way I see it, is if you get some of these folks to put some MONEY on the line. Make it into some kind of "sporting" wager, or something. That would be the Ticket!
    I have to agree here to some point. How fast are you gonna go when you hit it? Times how far out and how much drop? Atleast the only thing you can trust is your bike will not self destruct on landing and you braking something to end up laid up for how long. Everything dangerous or atleast somewhat dangerous
    an reliably be done with a calculated risk. CALCULATED!!!!!. You can jump out of an airplane with a chute you trust right? You dont jump out with one your not sure will work. Accidents happen. My feeling do it with the equipment that atleast gives you a chance. You wann do it with confidence and visualizing the line . Mentaly before execution its about: See, feel, trust go, See feel trust go. Not see, possible crash, debate, hope for the best, f it, go, hospital. Do it with a bike you trust.

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    are we takin about rolling in on it like the huge roll ins on the vid? or hucking a gap? im confused now after watching the vids. btw how far are the gaps on those doubles in the video? the one the guy on the blue bike washed out on. what about at the bike park gaps? just curious? that rockgarden you ate it on with the gopro look gnar on video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akiracornell View Post
    are we takin about rolling in on it like the huge roll ins on the vid? or hucking a gap? im confused now after watching the vids. btw how far are the gaps on those doubles in the video? the one the guy on the blue bike washed out on. what about at the bike park gaps? just curious? that rockgarden you ate it on with the gopro look gnar on video.
    Its a drop. Nothing special. About 9 feet to the "lander" . The possibility of a frame failure forces me to land extra soft and is the only thing that makes it interesting. My friend was gonna let me do it on his bike, but whats the fun in that. Those gaps are around ten feet. Its the middle line. In the video tour de foothills you can see the big line plus i crash face first into a cactus at the end. That rock garden is gnar. I made 3 out of 7 tries that day... its a little tricky.

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    The END of all mountain?

    Quote Originally Posted by akiracornell View Post
    You can jump out of an airplane with a chute you trust right? You dont jump out with one your not sure will work.
    Who needs a parachute anyway? Travis Pastrana doesn't.

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    Did someone get scared?

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    or incapacitated, but lets hope for the best.

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    Well i didnt have a tube for my small tire. I tried putting on a spesh 2.0 but it still was rubbing. Even with the side knobs cut off.

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    So next week with a couple good tubes to make it throught the ride and i should be good


    I had a new bike that i hadnt ridden yet so the choice wanst that had to make. If i dont do it this weekend its not happening because the big bikes has lots of parts i want to move over to my new bike.

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    Also that drop is scary. Im gonna stash the full face and body armor out there... im thinking the best case is frame breaks.. better then bucking me off into the rocks

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    worst thread title I've seen in a while

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    good to see your alive

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    This thread makes me want to change my user name to Faglio...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangermouse View Post
    This thread makes me want to change my user name to Faglio...
    Derp

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    Lol

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    Im not sure if i understand this thread.

    OP you said you bike was a free ride bike, free ride bikes are a hell of a lot tougher that AM bikes and can cop a load more abuse, im really lost in this thread.....
    Dont ever let the truth get in the way of a funny story....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Glad you asked!

    The frame ahas a crack that i repaired. Thats what took it from freeride to all mountain

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    If you painted that repair, no one would even notice that it was repaired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Im not sure if i understand this thread.

    OP you said you bike was a free ride bike, free ride bikes are a hell of a lot tougher that AM bikes and can cop a load more abuse, im really lost in this thread.....

    Its basicly a continuation of my cold weld repair thread. I didnt know how to start it so i did abgood old "what is all mountain" theme..... the question is when does a single.feature go from all mountain to free ride... that was the premice.......

    So my broken frame got down graded from free ride to all mountain... its a mess of a thread mainly cause i chickened out of the drop.........


    Ill resurect the thread at the right time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Its basicly a continuation of my cold weld repair thread. I didnt know how to start it so i did abgood old "what is all mountain" theme..... the question is when does a single.feature go from all mountain to free ride... that was the premice.......

    So my broken frame got down graded from free ride to all mountain... its a mess of a thread mainly cause i chickened out of the drop.........


    Ill resurect the thread at the right time
    LOL, i didnt realise it was you, you lunatic
    And your still alive too, after your repairs on that bike anythings possible lol

    I recon you should take the drop and video it and put it back up in your last thread to prove the doubters wrong haha, or right lol

    cheers
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    Faglio I suggest a name change untill you resurrect the thread lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liternit View Post
    Faglio I suggest a name change untill you resurrect the thread lol
    I hope you dont think your being clever. Whats worse is that your judging an entire class of people based on who they chose to be with.

    Its sophomoric and biggited.


    Wost of all its uncreative lame and boring. Take your dollar store jokes back to the drawing board and dont come back till you got somthing funny to say.








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    Im sorry Faglio lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liternit View Post
    Im sorry Faglio lol
    Dont be sorry be funny


    you can do it!!!!!!


    Say i should paint my bike yellow to match my back


    Maybe i can fix my broken pride with hose clamps

    Somthing..

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    I think the effort should be equal to fixing a frame with hose clamps Faglio

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    Or i fixed a watch and now its right twice a day

    Somthing about laying eggs cause im a chicken

    Did i get my fix it ideas from the "red green show"

    Not even Handy Manny would be proud of me.

    Harbor freight cut me off after they saw what i did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liternit View Post
    I think the effort should be equal to fixing a frame with hose clamps Faglio
    Now your trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
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    Is this Gruvi from the surf forums? All sounds so familiar!

    Yea that harbor freight line cracked me up.

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    Well those hose clamps and steel plates have been on for a while. I'd say they are holding up very well. its definitely the end of all mountain for this bike. It's back on DH/FR duty


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Well those hose clamps and steel plates have been on for a while. I'd say they are holding up very well. its definitely the end of all mountain for this bike. It's back on DH/FR duty


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    where is the dh and freeride in the video? am i missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    where is the dh and freeride in the video? am i missing something?
    When mechagodzilla gets knocked over , also when gozilla gets shot by the shoulder missles

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    .. it might be hard to tell from the video

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    Don't know how to highlight just a segment from the vid, but he puts through the test - and brings it back from AM status - at about :33, and then again at about 1:14

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    I dont care what you call it. It was FUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    I dont care what you call it. It was FUN!
    Can't argue with that!
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    After reading this thread I can't tell if the OP is trolling. Nice work!.. if you are. If not.. stop reacting to all shit talking replies! Either way, thanks for the laughs!

    You got some skills. You ride woodwork pretty well. You would "only ride park" if you could dial in your landings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by homeless junkie View Post
    After reading this thread I can't tell if the OP is trolling. Nice work!.. if you are. If not.. stop reacting to all shit talking replies! Either way, thanks for the laughs!

    You got some skills. You ride woodwork pretty well. You would "only ride park" if you could dial in your landings.
    The sad part is that I dont even know if im trolling. Its cause im a troll in real life.


    That wood work is at Pajarito Mountain in Los Alamos New Mexico. Awesome mountain if you ever get the chance.

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    Well since "all mountain" is just a marketing term, the true end of all mountain is bike companies now trying to sell us "enduro" bikes instead of "all mountain" bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    Well since "all mountain" is just a marketing term, the true end of all mountain is bike companies now trying to sell us "enduro" bikes instead of "all mountain" bikes.
    But the all mountain bike was just a new way to rebrand the freeride bike. So is my bike an endurance bike now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    But the all mountain bike was just a new way to rebrand the freeride bike. So is my bike an endurance bike now?
    Not "endurance"..."enduro"...2 completely different things. You could just call it a mountain bike though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    Not "endurance"..."enduro"...2 completely different things. You could just call it a mountain bike though.
    But if i just call it a mountain bike how will I ever know whether or not im supposed to be wearing lycra ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    But if i just call it a mountain bike how will I ever know whether or not im supposed to be wearing lycra ?
    Your freeride bike >a All-Mountain bike > an Enduro Bike.
    That should make things perfectly cleat to everyone.

    Next year, you may need to revise yet again.

    BTW, you can thank the Invisible Hand of the Divine Free Market for all of this nomenclature.

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