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    Can hardtails ride AM trails?

    Can hardtails ride AM without ruining your bones?

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    Impossible - you will die and your bike will self-destruct

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    ^ What he said.

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    lol i do believe there are all sorts of HT AM bikes.

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    Does a bear s*%t in the woods?
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    Re: Can hardtails ride AM trails?

    Depends, a trail with a class 3 Am certification is acceptable for hardtails with minimum t6001 al and minimum 1.3 mm wall thickness at the lower chain stay junction (this is using Imba am trail classification handbook version 3.2.1.2, not norba tsclf cert 2.6, they are a splinter group).

    However, when you get up to am trail classification 4 and 5 (again, imba 3.2.1.2 criteria only , you know, average trail feature 6.3 inches height with a frequency of 12 features per 20ft trail distance, I'm sure you've seen it), then you need a min 2mm wall thickness, which is only prevalent in a handful of production run bikes. I don't need to tell you because I'm sure you'd have found the same after a little research.

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    When you find some AM trails, let us know...
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    Do mullets mean less teeth?
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    They can. But you should first have both a will and a durable power of attorney. You should also carry contact information for your next of kin.

    It's thoughts of riding hard tails on AM trails that keeps causing lawmakers to consider laws about what kind of bikes can be used in different places. It is just irresponsible to consider it.

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    steel frame, big tubeless tires, good fork and your bones may be ok.

    theyre poking fun because AM is a type of bike not trail.
    if youre a troll, go f**k yourself.

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    You can ride whatever you want on any trail, just depends
    on your testicle fortitude. Used to be you bought a bike and rode it, didn't
    have all these classifications. Just use your head and don't get stupid.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfruits View Post
    steel frame, big tubeless tires, good fork and your bones may be ok.

    theyre poking fun because AM is a type of bike not trail.
    if youre a troll, go f**k yourself.
    I'm not a troll. I am a noob

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    Quote Originally Posted by charging_rhinos View Post
    Do mullets mean less teeth?
    There is a correlation, but science has yet to prove a causative link between mullets and both toothlessness and halitosis.

    There is a proven inverse correlation between number of hard tails owned and time to fix a pinch flat though.

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    As long as you carry a gun
    To put yourself out of horrible misery when your bike explodes ripping your legs off miles from nowhere

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    It's not about the bike. For proof, take a look at this video:

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    The unfortunate truth is, if you ride an AM trail with a hardtail, it can no longer be classified an AM trail and is reclassified a sissy xc trail... PLEASE don't ride one with a ht and destroy any more AM trails! there are so few as it is!

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    I would think the rock piles on downhill burst would be a freaking nightmare, but your legs are your main suspension!

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    Okay I understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarBoom View Post
    As long as you carry a gun
    To put yourself out of horrible misery when your bike explodes ripping your legs off miles from nowhere
    "Miles from nowhere" does that mean somewhere???
    And by the way real men ride hardtails...

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    Only if you wake up early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillT19 View Post
    "Miles from nowhere" does that mean somewhere???
    And by the way real men ride hardtails...
    Miles from nowhere is a somewhere right next to nowhere it's also under the up there and nearer than that over there

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainBiker8 View Post
    Can hardtails ride AM without ruining your bones?
    It really depends on your bones, not the bike. I used to ride Downieville on my steel HT and had a blast. Now I have lower back and herniated disk issues and I have to use my 6 inch squishy bike for everything. Using the HT is no longer an option for me (except to run some errands on paved roads), but if my spine was still OK, I sure would be still riding it. That being said, IMHO a squishy bike does give you more margin for error (which over time may get neutralized by the fact that you tend to go much faster on a squishy bike for the same kind of trail, thus erasing the margin of error advantage...LoL).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzywater View Post
    It really depends on your bones, not the bike. I used to ride Downieville on my steel HT and had a blast. Now I have lower back and herniated disk issues and I have to use my 6 inch squishy bike for everything. Using the HT is no longer an option for me (except to run some errands on paved roads), but if my spine was still OK, I sure would be still riding it. That being said, IMHO a squishy bike does give you more margin for error (which over time may get neutralized by the fact that you tend to go much faster on a squishy bike for the same kind of trail, thus erasing the margin of error advantage...LoL).
    That makes sense. Thank you.

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    I was wondering how long it would take before someone posted one of those Chromag hardtail vids
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    Go and hit it with a rigid, wasn't that long ago that suspension bikes were just an idea in someones head. People still did crazy "stuff" back then... It's easier on you and the bike and you can go faster on a FS, but not necessary in the least. Make sure the frame is sound and then pick the best lines you can.
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    You can ride AM trails on a hardtail, just leave enough room for the DH riders to fly by.

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    Yes... If you don't mind "bike hiking" (walking your bike).

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    I miss my hardtail, she was way more fun. Although she made me faster on my FS

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    Yesterday we were riding a very rocks course at a local ski area on full DH bikes (only the second time on DH's). A guy blew past us on a hardtail, showing the rider is much more important than the bike. I tried to catch him, but his skill was far beyond my noob abilities.

    However, the last time we saw him was in the bike shop where is was looking for some part to get his bike rolling again...

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    Good job!

    didnt want to feed this troll thread but i cant help myself

    since i just bought a hard tail ill repost a Video i made of my shenanigans

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/V6h1PBP0xW0?list=UUKtJssbgfYezdG5CEVSpHtQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


    and some pics

    <a href="http://s34.photobucket.com/user/mrpea9999/media/logride.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/mrpea9999/logride.png" border="0" alt=" photo logride.png"/></a>

    <a href="http://s34.photobucket.com/user/mrpea9999/media/jesushardtail.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/mrpea9999/jesushardtail.png" border="0" alt=" photo jesushardtail.png"/></a>

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    <a href="http://s34.photobucket.com/user/mrpea9999/media/26815028-a4dd-4345-b395-42b3310af593.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/mrpea9999/26815028-a4dd-4345-b395-42b3310af593.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 26815028-a4dd-4345-b395-42b3310af593.jpg"/></a>

    <a href="http://s34.photobucket.com/user/mrpea9999/media/0706131347a.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/mrpea9999/0706131347a.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 0706131347a.jpg"/></a>


    lets just turn this into the hardtail hucker thread

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    I'm not a troll. I am a noob who does not know lots about Mountain Biking.
    Nice video btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainBiker8 View Post
    I'm not a troll. I am a noob who does not know lots about Mountain Biking.
    Nice video btw
    Well I am a troll. So take it from me. If you ask can I ____ on a ___? its always a troll question cause it will start trouble... Watch start a thread Can I ride technical trails wearing clip ins? and youll get a lot of responces
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Well I am a troll. So take it from me. If you ask can I ____ on a ___? its always a troll question cause it will start trouble... Watch start a thread Can I ride technical trails wearing clip ins? and youll get a lot of responces
    so... can I ride AM on a 29er ht?
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