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    Building skills area at my house help needed

    I have been putting in as many miles as I can on the new trigger 1. But being new to the all mountain type of riding I need practice.

    I was thinking about starting to build a skills area at my place to practice on when I don't have time to make it to the trails. I live on a farm so space and equipment is not a problem. I am wanting something simple I can keep adding to over time.

    I need help with ideas. I have found lots of elaborate designs, but very few simple low budget ones. Thanks -Ross

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    pump track. endless fun and it will help your skill immensely.

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    I am jealous. I barely have room in my yard to practice doing a track stand.

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    pump track for flow and maybe a log collection for you to play small obstacle course. But you will have to know how to secure the logs so they don't give you unnecessary accidents.
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    Re: Building skills area at my house help needed

    I was thinking about starting with some skinnies, log obstacles, and small drops. I'm hoping to build a pump track eventually. Is it better to build these courses on flat land or hills? Does anyone have a good resource on proper obstacle building? I don't mind buying books if they contain the correct info. I have done lots of construction, just never anything bike related and want to make sure I do it correctly. Thanks for all the help so far. -Ross

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    In my opinion, being on a flat or slope terrain depends on your preference and your projected level of difficulty as you progress thru. The usual natural obstacles that you may wanna simulate are roots, rock gardens, logs and how to clear them should it be up a slop, down a steep slope, or there is a big pothole amongst the root or rock cluster etc.

    Your research should be about the flow of the design, drainage and sustainability of the track, and possibility of moving and re-laying the obstacle with relative ease etc

    and when the time permits, maybe you might at some berms, table tops and gaps and wall-rides to it... which sounds too awesome by then
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    PBuild a table top jump. Most fundamental way to learn to catch air. You can make it taller, longer, steeper more mellow all according to your level. If you can already jump, do double doubles for rythum . one after another with very little room to set up between jumps. It builds reflexs for pumping rythum and timing. You can put as many as you want in a row. You could do it all tables or doubles. One after another.
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    Its the most labor intensive process without a bobcat or some kind if tractor. 1 jump take many hours and days with pick and shovel. I know as I have made quite a few. Doubles take half or less the amount of dirt to move. As long as you can get water to soak the ground so it digs up easier its doable. It helps to know how to pack and cut transitions.
    One way to help if your doing with a pick and shovel is to make them banzai style. Dig a hole down into the ground before the lip. It has to be a smooth elongated transition down. But you can use that dirt to make the lip. Do the same with the landing. So you pump down into a hole lanch up and pump back down and etc etc depnding on how many you can build.

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    putting drops on a hill makes the most sense. you cant really lay it out wrong though.

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    I keep thinking OP wanted to simulate trail rather than a regular smooth pump track, hence my suggestions on the use of logs and rocks to build obstacle that can increase in difficulty over time...
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    Re: Building skills area at my house help needed

    I am not really needing a flowing trail just a series of obstacles to practice various skills on. Think skinnies, log obstacles, and small drops I think a pump track is a great idea, but it would probably be winter before I had time to do the dirt work.

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    pumptrack will make you see the trails different. it makes every hump and bump something to bank off or pump up onto to or over to flow down.
    but I defnatley hear you about needing winter to build.

    personally I sketch when I see a drop into somthin that holds a lot of speed, so if you miss the line you can get out of control. so I would build some drop offs into somkind of bank if you have a hill available. maybe somthin like this. you could make it smaller and then elongate it to make it bigger. Ladder jump top of Jedi - YouTube

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    I got jumps burms and a log ride.


    Just build **** with stuff from the dumpster at a construction site and youll get better at tech real fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks_cowboy View Post
    I need help with ideas. I have found lots of elaborate designs, but very few simple low budget ones...
    Oh I have lots of ideas!

    Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but it's a lot of fun. See-saw:

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    Here's another simple idea. Obviously the lake is optional.

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    And of course, the basic ramp. Keep it simple to build:

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    Simple pile of logs ram-packed with dirt:

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    Quote Originally Posted by solidass View Post
    Oh I have lots of ideas!
    for me...

    see-saw - no
    boards under inner tubes surrounded by water - heeeeeeeck no
    ramp - yes
    tree logs - yes



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    Quote Originally Posted by JAvendan View Post
    for me...

    boards under inner tubes surrounded by water - heeeeeeeck no



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    Okay, how about simple 4x4 lumber placed on the ground end to end?

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    Photo is plagiarized from Ales and Trails skills park photos, but nobody reads these captions anyway, right?

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    I would put a rut into the mix. I know I get a bit panicked when a rut comes up, more so than a skinny... especially on a turn.

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    Here's the type of trail on which I would love to practice, for both uphill and downhill. I wish I could just *find* a location like this locally (that I can ride legally), if not have the space to build it:

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    Re: Building skills area at my house help needed

    Thanks guys this is the exact type of things I was looking for. Are there any resources for the proper construction of these type of obstacles. I want to do it as correct as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ks_cowboy View Post
    Thanks guys this is the exact type of things I was looking for. Are there any resources for the proper construction of these type of obstacles. I want to do it as correct as possible.

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    ... I have done lots of construction, just never anything bike related and want to make sure I do it correctly. Thanks for all the help so far. -Ross

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    You've either done lots of construction or haven't (and need resources).

    I've done lots of construction. Just looking at the photos is good enough for me. I would say just use treated wood for the ground contact, hot-dipped galvanized nails or carriage bolts for rust protection, maybe even deck treatment (brush-on coating). Pre drill when you think it'll split, etc.

    If you're talking about designs, there are too many ways to make each type of contraption. Here are some more photos. These are plagiarized from the Trek Dirt Series (skills camp for women).

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    This last one seems to be an ADJUSTABLE ANGLE ramp. Maybe best bang for the construction effort.

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    Re: Building skills area at my house help needed

    I am very comfortable with construction. I just wanted to see if there was a best practices before winging it. Thanks again for all the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solidass View Post
    Here's the type of trail on which I would love to practice, for both uphill and downhill. I wish I could just *find* a location like this locally (that I can ride legally), if not have the space to build it:

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    . That looks hella fun. There's a section on a high speed downhill trail near me that has two stairs like that. You either have to hit it at about 15mph and ride off both or at like 30mph to clear the second. Anywhere in between and you case the second stair and it can wreck your world. But that pic is awesome.
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